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Offline Greg

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« on: March 29, 2005, 04:52:00 AM »
Hear yee Hear yee,

 

A WARNING  be posted to all those in the realm. A scammer has been found out and discovered prowling the deepest reaches of the internet, so be forwarned. I place before your most excellant judgement a copy of a letter. This letter recieved by yours truely only this very night. If in your humblest of opinions I have been quick to rush to judgment in this letters terms, I shall withdraw my call for concern.

 

           Heed me brothers and sisters and read as I do.

 

 

 

 

Greetings Greg!

 

I was not capable to speak with you, I was not capable to live, I do not have forces.

Your public INSULTS and terrible DAMNATIONS of your friend Bill немого have very much damaged my health. It is your fault in it.

Julia has told to me, that she wrote to you. She wrote because she did not know about all

Terrible things from you and your friend. Messages all are kept. Now she knows all.

Therefore do not injure mentality of the child.

 

I am in hospital, to me allow to come home sometimes. - carrying out of medical examinations and treatments are necessary for me for restoration of my health of money-five thousand dollars.

The loving husband should care about health Тани which it and has damaged.

You are obliged to restore my health. It is your chance.

 

Tomorrow I should receive from you five thousand dollars. ONLY AFTER THAT we can speak

About all.

You know as to make it. Or you will continue to do monstrous mistakes in the life?

 

 

 

 

Necessarily make professional translation of the letter that you have understood all correctly and was not late to make all necessary.

 

 

 

 

Таня.

 

 

 

Translations proved by prompt software.

 

 

 

Greg

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2005, 05:06:21 AM »
Greg,

What exactly is your relationship with this woman?  I read in the letter the word "husband", are you married to this woman?

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2005, 05:10:51 AM »
I was engaged to her in Kherson last December. Yeah this is my sweet little bundle of joy. Anyone know if it's possible to wire that much cash?

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2005, 05:16:53 AM »
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Therefore do not injure mentality of the child.

Is there a child involved? Did you get this girl preggers?

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2005, 05:20:28 AM »
Of course not, the chld she refers to is her 20 year old daughter who had written me to tell me of her Mother recent health troubles.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2005, 05:20:29 AM »
hey guys,

I am new to this group, but belong to ohter out their. :)   I went with Greg to Kherson, back in late December, Anything he post here i can verify about the trip or the woman.  

Thanks

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2005, 05:24:24 AM »
:? Where do you manage to find such girls?
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Anyone know if it's possible to wire that much cash?

 

So you are going to send those money?;) What's a problem? Let wire 1000$ 5 times. 

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2005, 05:31:27 AM »
Great idea thank you. Say would it be ok if I just wired it to you? When you see her you could give her all my love.

Greg

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2005, 05:35:09 AM »
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Great idea thank you. Say would it be ok if I just wired it to you? When you see her you could give her all my love
It would be Ok, don't worry:D I promice you to give her all your love (but only love:P)
« Last Edit: March 29, 2005, 05:35:00 AM by Elen »

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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2005, 05:44:04 AM »
BTW what were those public INSULTS and terrible DAMNATIONS of your friend  that she wants 5000$ now for recovery of her health???

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2005, 05:53:39 AM »
It's a bit of a mystery. From what I understand she had recieved some "bad messages" on her phone.

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2005, 05:57:19 AM »
Greg,

It's up to you how you handle this, however I'd probably do things in a different manner.  You say you became engaged to her in December, well,,, that's only 3 months ago, was she in bad health at that time?  I know nothing about the health care system in Ukraine, but I suspect it's similar to that of Russia, in other words, it's socialized medicine.  I wonder how you rack up a $5,000 debt in a free hospital.

Is this another "one week wonder" story?  I'd be curious about how you met this woman, and how much time you have actually spent with her.

And, BTW....  The 20 y.o. daughter is not eligible for immigration under the K-Class visa, so she should not be a consideration.  That part about *injuring the mentality of the child* is simply a confusion factor.

Regards the possibility that you have lost your mind,,, sending 5K by WU would prove that point in my humble opinion.


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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2005, 06:04:33 AM »
Looks like blackmail:? and she has record messages with threatenings

And it's possible to spend 5 000$ in our free hospitalities:? (of course THAT case is not the case on 5000$)

 

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2005, 06:15:30 AM »
She was in perfect health when I was there. I'm not sure what a "one week wonder" story is though. I have an approved visa for her and her daughter sitting in the Emabassy in Kiev. It was a first trip to Kherson for me but I used a very reputable agency up to the time I arrived in Kherson. At that point she was always cautioning me about that agency and said that they were bad. It was a bit of a whirlwind romance and I went home engaged and pretty darned happy. We corresponded without the agencies help from that point forward as per her request as she was so critical of them. I know I broke a lot of the rules here, hindsight is 20/20. The request's for money for this or that seemed reasonable at the time. It didn't add up to much but I was under the impression in Ukraine when you become engaged your expected to help out with the finaces. I have learned much from my experience and am not bitter and angry. I am however much wiser to what can happen if your not very careful.

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2005, 06:23:51 AM »
I dont think its blackmail as I was a perfect gentleman with her and she has nothing to blackmail me with. I think what she is refering to is the stress she was put under when I reported her to the agency for her last request for new clothing or she would not depart to America with me. The agency was investigating her for this and there was an issue with the translation of her letters regarding that clothing request? I gave her the benefit of the doubt and asked that the investigation be stopped and the agency owner agreed to do this. The agency advised me to write to her and offer to fly to her and go shopping for her new clothes and i did that.  This is the next responce I recieved. More money needed.

Greg

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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2005, 06:24:25 AM »
What was the "very reputable" agency you used to find this scammer???  Be glad that you did not bring this woman into our country.  It is now time for you to pick up the pieces / make sure she does not get a visa on your back and clean up your record with the BCINS so you could find a legitimate foreign girl in the future.
"A word is dead when it is said, some say.  I say it just begins to live that day."  Emily Dickinson

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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2005, 06:28:08 AM »
Greg,

We refer to an engagement such as yours, one trip to meet a woman, spending a week or 10 days with her and coming home engaged, as being a "one week wonder".  I think our own Ken C coined the phrase on another board, if I'm not mistaken.

This practice is generally considered to be in poor judgement.  You really need to know someone a whole lot better before committing to something as serious as marriage.


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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2005, 06:44:59 AM »
I'm waiting for a responce from the agency this morning about this last letter. I would prefer to wait until I hear from them. I was pretty broken up over the whole thing thinking possibly I had done something wrong and misjudged her intentions. This letter pretty much says it all for me. I'm not sure what to do with the visa sitting there in Kiev she has yet to go to the medical exam and the interview and was about to send her my financial information to her. I keep thinking how much worse this could have been if she had just gotten her hands on my private investments and personal banking information. Any advice would be appreciated for sure you don't suppose she might actually try to get to this country again?

Greg

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2005, 06:55:57 AM »
too hazy story , too odd letter (have not idea how it would possible to translate THAT from russian language - no one typical russian word construction:?)

so no adices and no ideas:?

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2005, 06:57:26 AM »
Greg,

You need to immediately send an e-mail to the Embassy.  Tell them that the wedding plans are off and that the visa should not be given out under any circumstances.  

Contact the BCIS where you filed the I-129F and have them pull the application.  Mark this woman "persona non-grata".

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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2005, 07:07:28 AM »
How old are you, Greg? I hope you are older than 18. I have asked my question here once but.... Why do YOU ALL use the Agencies to find a good woman?!!!!!

A very strange e-mail. I read it 2 times. And it seems to me that person is doing a kind of blackmail - a mysterious one week story and etc... But, probably, Greg, you are hiding some very intimate facts about that visit to Ukraine. That's why this situation with that girl looks strange and incomprehensible.

Maybe something happened while you were there with her.... eh?
I am not looking for absolution. Forgiveness for the things I do. But before you come to any conclusions - try walking in my shoes.

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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2005, 07:22:06 AM »
This letter was sent to me in Russian. I used the PromtX software program to translate the letter into English for me to read. If you like I would be interested in your translation of it form the original Russian text sent to me. Contact me off post.

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2005, 07:25:05 AM »
Yes I am older than 18. But compliments are appreciated at anytime.(smile) My trip seemed perfect except for her request to cut the agency out of our life right away.

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2005, 07:28:07 AM »
It's tough to meet FSU women without the help of an agency. by the way are you free for dinner? wink!

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2005, 07:31:55 AM »
Then let post it on Russian I just want to understand at least what she've wrote to you;)

My PM in your service
« Last Edit: March 29, 2005, 07:34:00 AM by Elen »

 

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