Scammers and suspect Agencies

[Felice]

This is about fake blacklists who must go better yesterday and tomorrow, so Jack and Fiorella do give each other your e-mail adress and contunue your romance there or in Moscow. Keep it serious guys!!! I am not here for a tracking cookie session but for finishing these fakers having a blacklist who willingly and knowingly lead you to scamagencies and do act as if they protect you and earn money on their misleading.

Number two in fake blacklist from Jim *** is AFA is A Foreign Affair. AFA does not delete most of his scammers but has a small blacklist themselves. They do never delete old profiles, had before no birthday from women. Go in www.aforeignaffair.com to ladies 18 to 18 than country Russia and city Moscow, When I did it last time there was as last one appearing a girl Elena 18 years from Moscow but no birthday given, This girl is in Matchdoctor being about 24 years old, so they AFA does not have any info, cannot contact this girl themselves to update her personals.

Jim does blacklist an agency because it is involved in escort-service. AFA has with their love.com about 20 porn-sites. From a reliable source who could not give it as hard evidence I heard that AFA did place fake lady-profiles in agenciesand when men react they do send them their daily e-mails.

One more reliable site on Agencyscams is Romantic Planet filled with the complete Lugansk scam-scene. I did take a look there, did report YanaKeat as scammer, did get an offer from the owner for a free membership. He does tell to give most of his profits to charity. Oncebeing "member"there i did send a "smile" to 10 Lugansk scammers running there. Two of themreacted and wanted correspondence. I told the owner that whenhe wannted once to be reliable he had toi thrown out all his Lugansk scammers. Visiting that site later, I was blocked to see his whole data-base but could only see a section with friends. I deleted my profile. The Lugansk scammers must have contacted e-mail provider mail.ru because my e-mail adress has beebn blocked during longtime for sending e-mails to mail.ru adresses.

So blacklists: Go away and Agencyscams go first.

[Felice]

Read my article here too, how scammer Agencyscams hasas 5th banner from above the banner with: Top Russian Links

 

When an agency-owner has his mouth filled like Philip Gedge part of Angelika Network about scamagencies you must expect that the woman on his banner is one of his brides or at least once was.

Was the lady on his banner once member of his agency than it is now known how Angelika Network does meet their ladies in person.The girl on the banner Top Russian Links in fake blacklist Agencyscam is a blacklisted scammer (see my article here) and in reality a top Russian model named Polina!!!

[Admin]

This article was published untill 30-03-2005 on www.datingworld.net under Scam Websites;

TEXT:

-www.agencyscams.com : This website has a very tricky system that makes it look like legitimate to steer single and naive men towards agencies the owner has partnered with or owns (the owner also operates http://jimslist.com ).

The owners full name is jim **, a former English language teacher. Though he is trying to hide and have made his websites register information anonymous, but we found out both of his websites to be registered to:

His website is a (marketing tool) for his scam dating networks that have fake sales sites but no contact with ladies, and often not even an office. They are virtual offices, often run out of homes in the US.

It appears, that he is adding bogus listings of ladies as scammers just to appear that he is actively anti-scam. Worse yet, he has stolen a part of his scammers blacklist from other anti-scam websites. He did not make his blacklists himself but did steal all the photo's from other blacklists.

His Gold list is a fake; he recommends his agency, agencies that he works for and those who do pay him. (He recommends agencies as being scam-free for at least 300$ a month!.) Agencies he recommends are filled with Lugansk scammers, so for some dollars a month he is a scam expert that recommends the whole Lugansk scam-mafia!. (Lugansk is a city in Ukraine). And what he won't tell you one of his reputable agencies was before in court for scamming. This criminal won't answer any questions because he has no intention of helping anybody except himself.

Jim *** is a criminal who stopped teaching English and started recommending scam agencies for money, blacklisting legitimate agencies, because they are his competitors. He has two goals, earning money (monthly fee) by recommending agencies for at least 300$ a month. His second goal is blacklisting his direct competitors. He is a criminal who is involved in marriage-agencies, most problably running a marriage-agency which is part of a scam dating network and their goal is recommend themselves, blacklist other competitor agencies and damage their reputation to get the monopoly in dating bussiness.

This gangster who calls himself Jim is in close contact with Russian and Ukrainian scam mafia. he and his affiliates are only after money, they do not mind how to earn it. They will do anything to get money, destroying honest agencies by blaming them for scamming, recommending scam agencies, scamming men, fake e-mail forwarding and translation services, bogus ladies' profiles, charging people through their credit cards after they cancel their accounts, emailing clients directly offering prostitution services to men going on tours, publishing stolen scammers' profiles from other anti-scam websites and so on.

This cheater says (I am the guy that is only trying to help the other guys out there and save their money). The truth is: He is only after money and the only goal from his blacklist is earning money.

He and his affiliates training some of their (ladies) on how to request money for various reasons, they also do sell women's adresses and they do not have any information about these women. You correspond with a woman for a while, and then you fall in love with her and decide to meet in a place somewhere away from her residence (in your country or in Europe). She asks you to sponsor her travel arrangements. You send her money and then you kiss the money good-bye.

The owner of an agency in his recommended list (or as he call it Gold or white list) is at the same time a bride in her own agency and available for correspondence for 50$ a month!!, and need all letters to be translated (This is a paid service also). This woman is a well known scammer who is also running the standard visa and travel scenarios and is training her lady clients on how to request money for various reasons. At the end we got a very (reputable) agency led by scammer!!! Could you believe it?

Pay him and he reommends you His system works as following: From Agencyscams somebody in bad English approaches agencies and tell that they have scammers and need their help to get rid of them. Afterwards an e-mail in good English comes from somebody telling to be Jim and that he can recommend you for 300$ a month. Finally he puts agencies in his grey and black list if they don't answer. All the agencies and websites in his grey and black lists are honest and trustworthy. they just refused to pay this gangster.

To sum up, this gangster is really the biggest and corrupt criminal the world everr produced.

Felice,

Your post is full of accusations that may well be considered defamatory in nature and content. Defamation is an actionable claim (lawsuit) in most states in the USA, and perhaps, in other countries. Of course, if all you have written can be proven as truthful, then I understand that you cannot be found guilty of defamation. [Note: I am NOT an attorney and you should NOT take my word as legal advice]

As you know from reading the board rules, we at RWD take NO RESPONSIBILITY for the information you choose to post.

Please post accordingly.

- Dan

[tim 360]

Felice you certainly have alot of axes to grind here.  "Biggest and most corrupt criminal the world has ever produced"?????  Are you outta yer cotton pickin' mind????  These scammers are such puny insignificant criminals that your statements are rendered not credible.  And you surely have never met many criminals either.  These guys are little fish in the criminal world.

However,  I think anyone putting any credence into the "anti-scam" and blacklist sites needs a little check-up-from-the-neck-up.  There is no credibility there either.  And its a one way street.  Some paranoid guy thinks he is being scammed and...there it is.  No confirmation.

And anybody believing all that "Honest Jim" drivel is just a sucker.  "Honest Jim"...indeed.

 

[BC]

Felice,

Your post is full of accusations that may well be considered defamatory in nature and content. Defamation is an actionable claim (lawsuit) in most states in the USA, and perhaps, in other countries. Of course, if all you have written can be proven as truthful, then I understand that you cannot be found guilty of defamation. [Note: I am NOT an attorney and you should NOT take my word as legal advice]

As you know from reading the board rules, we at RWD take NO RESPONSIBILITY for the information you choose to post.

Please post accordingly.

- Dan

Dan,

I have seen disclaimers on other boards basically saying The opinions and viewpoints expressed by users of xxx Forums are wholly their own and not necessarily those of xxx Forums. etc.. Plenty of good examples around...

Bringing up the subject of defamation and lawsuits, If I were a young lawyer I would enjoy representing an innocent RW in suing the bejeezers out of one of these antiscam sites and the men behind the false scam reports.  In the end that's what it's going to take to make a dent.  Maybe the women and men here should keep their eyes out for a well documented case.  Any lawyers around that could explain if such action could succeed and what the 'ideal' circumstances would be to begin a suit?

[Felice]

All lawsuits in USA against scamming had as result that the agencies brought for court are still active. I do say what I see and do know  in fake blacklist Agencyscams: Jim McDonald does recommend agencies in his Gold List because they do have an attractive affiliates program or they do pay him (or both).

His students? or partners in most likely Samara do approach agencies in bad English telling to have scammers, they do not tell who that scammer is! After thatthere comes an e-mail in good English from the real Jim himself telling that he can recommend you in his Gold list for a monthly fee of 20$.

Look ast his Gold listed agencies, as NUMBER ONE Elenas Models from Mafia queen Elena Petrova, who does charge agencies 80$ a month for being recommended by her. She has an affilates program offereing 50%. Who does not like to earn so much money. This is the only reason why Elenas Models is everywhere the Best.Her ladies are the normal middle aged women but she has a cointract with a Kievagency showuing their young girls in bikini.

Number two inhis Gold list is A Foreign Affair, not delting scammers and not delweting old profiles. Jim does blacklist an agency because they have xconnections with escort services. AFA has about 20 pornsites running with their www.loveme.com sites. AFA seems to place fake profiles in other agencies and when men react they get their news-letters.

Number 3 in his Gold list is Your Future Bride in Samara, he does ownor co-own this bull-agency. Jim does blacklist an agency because they have 6 ladies in their data-base. His own bull-agency has 24 ladies in his data-base.

Number 9 in his Gold List is an agency led by blacklisted scammer Anna Bogdan who had as president and bride at the same time a profile in her own scamming agency www.2oceansoflove.com Jim saw bothprofiles running!!

He has found a solution to the Lugansk scam-problem does he tell in his fake site. All men who do write with a girl from Lugansk must advice their lady to join 2 Oceans of Love. Do you believe that? Advicing men who write with a scammer that this scammer must join another scamagency?

He does recommend Romantic Planet who tells to give a lot to charity. In this agency is the whole Lugansk scam-scene active.

He does recommend the biggest scamsite ever Matchdoctor, involved in adultery with their Adult Matchdoctor, never deleting scammers, deleting anti-scam profiles which are reported by the scammers. Jim claims that Matchdoctor does cooperate with him to delete scammers, Jim does know nothing from scamming except how to scam himself.

He does recommend A Special Lady, whose owner Julia Grindle did have Life in Love scammer Julia Slepuhina in her data-base. A Special Lady  did claim that despite her age in Life in Love was 19 and her age in A Special Lady was 26 that Slepuhina was no scammer. There was even a client who bought a ticket from them going to meet her, why than still selling her adress.After this case was published the client did no longer go to Lugansk, Slepuhina was deleted and A Special Lady claimed to be innocent because Bride.ru had sold the ticket. So bride.ru with the same owner as Absolute Agency and whoi has as only one a banner in scamagency Life in Love did bring their profiles in A Special Lady. Jim does blacklist that Bride.ru (doesn't he know their "friends"?

He does recommend A Pretty Woman owned by Steve Lang. Look in www.russianwomenblacklist.com under agencies Good and Bad and you read that A Pretty Woman does never delete scammers. His whole data-base from Lugansk are scammers often related to scamagency AMUR in Lugansk (you see them running often in Friendfinder but than from Lugansk or Rostov-on-Don in Russia. For example a profile from this AMUR scamagency can be  kravchenko 301 Than it is a Lugansk scamprofile It can also appaer as kravchenko3a1 where 0 is changed in a after the name, than this scamprofile is Frpom Rostov-on-Don but in reality still a Lugansjk scammer.

He does recommend all Angelika Network agencies. Allready in the Sovjet time all people in the Sovjet Union/GUs had to study at least one langage, nearly no lady in Angelika Network does speak any language. This is mispresenting your profiles.

He is best friends with RW Guide owned by Forest Spencer. This man does recommend even total scamagencies for money. He did recommend scamagency Face of Siberia owned that time  by Ashley Neal and John Briar.

 

[Felice]

Jim has on his home-page a banner (left and 5-th from above: Top Russian Links which agency is partner of Angelika Network (Philip Gedge).but has a scammer in the banner.

He does blacklist agencies, but does later apologise and tells that he never had any report about them.

He does write to agencies, the ones who do not answer him are put in his Grey list as suspected scamagencies. But which normal person would answer him?

[Bruno]

hummm, only good Trojan I know is .......uh, never mind.

Bruno, you doing something illegal?

May be it is missunderstanding but I would not like it if someone tracked my emails and look in my mailbox who write me and to whom I write... [/quote]
nope, all is legal... but at the extreme limit...

About cookie, you have already one in your computer for these forum... without it, you need to loggin each time that you connect to the forum... he only store you loggin and password and is actived when you are on RWD...

About the trojan, it is not really a trojan... it is only some line of code who open the port 21 when the personn have connected to my site for receive the result of cookie... of course, without the "trojan", the cookie use the port 80... but information via port 80 ( internet HTTP ) are not protect and some people can intercept it... not a lot of people listen the port 21, usually used for FTP... this have only allow me to have the information without take the rish that these information was capture by other...

Remember, in this time, i have only a false passport from the lady... before accuse someone, i need more strong information and prove... the "trojan" was only needed for recolte these info in a secure way... not secure for me but for the woman, i have not wish his information was taken by other people until i have not really prove... and if i have not find some prove, the data was destroy, and i have never publish her like a scammer...

Now, about hacker... they have a bad reputations... but in reality, hacking is something really legal... hacking is study program and material for have a maximum knowlegde about it... but some people use these knowledgde for make attack and this is illegal...

Fiorella, don't worry for your e-mail box... i have use this only one time and it was because the woman ( but it is in reality a man ) have wish publish a ads on my site and send a false passport... until people are good people, i respect the privacy but when someone is dishonest, i use the same weapon that them... i call this legitime defense...

And if you wish real security, use a system build by honest real hacker... use Linux in place of windows... it is fast and secure... i search security hole in linux too... but the time used to find it, the hole is already closed by a upgrade... Linux is not perfect and is sometime difficult... but virus, real trojan, security,... are at a high level...

And about private life, don't worry, the American gouverment listen all communication of the world, control all the e-mail... the private life is only a dream... i don't like this but it is a method for protect the good people from the bad one... if bad people don't exist, the private life can be a reality...

 

[Bruno]

You must see dating as a market.

There is the big problem... these market take care of the $$$ and not of the people...

Now, i make my last post on these topic... Felice is some kind of parano who publish a lot of thing without the right reference... he make free accusation without any kind of real prove...

About Jim, he have loose all my respect by his silence on these forum and his try to manipulate this from after...

Same Dan have loose some respect because he have follow the way dicted by Jim... i have prove that the first post of Felice was not the original article from the place he say... but that the text was the same that antiscam.net, publish a little before... but now, it is difficult to control again because Dan have cut in the first post of Felice due to the pression of Jim...

Let me explain with facts :

I have contact Jim for explain him about the post of Felice and invit him to reply...

His e-mail :

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Thanks for that info. Can you find any contact info about the site or person who posted the message for me? You seem to be good at that.
--
Best of luck,
Jim

The Original Anti-Scam Site - http://agencyscams.com
The Agency Checklist Site - http://jimslists.com
Advice From Guys Who Have Been There - http://rwguide.com


Of course, i have refuse to track the person and invite him again to register on RWD and reply...

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Bruno,

   Thanks a lot. I can't register on the site. I tried to contact the owner through his whios info, but I am sure that it is not real. Can you please send a message to him and ask him to remove that thread immediately? And ask for the IP address of the person who posted the rant about me. I think I know who it is, but I need proof. This is illegal what he did.
   And I have been thinking about your site. I understand what you said about how you run your agency, but that fact is that you have a good, decent agency, so I want to list it on my White List. Give me the full url and the name as you want it to appear on the lsit, OK?
   Thanks for your help.
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Best of luck,
Jim

The Original Anti-Scam Site - http://agencyscams.com
The Agency Checklist Site - http://jimslists.com
Advice From Guys Who Have Been There - http://rwguide.com


He explain that he cannot register... OK, i have register him myself, he was only need to click on the activation link... and he think that the contact e-mail from Dan is fake... he ask me to contact Dan and remove the topic, give the IP from the personn who post... in exchange, he try buy me and propose me to be listed in his White list...

I have again refuse and explain him that RWD don't work like this... everybody is free to post and reply... i have forward a copy of this to Dan and advice him for not remove the post of Felice...

bellow, the good reply of Dan to Jim

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Jim,

Brunol has alerted me to your claim that you have been
unable to reach me via email. If you have tried to
reach me and have been getting emails bounced back to
you, please send me one of them so that I can correct
the problem.

Bruno also tells me he has encouraged you to register
at the RussianWomenDiscussion board to that you might
participate in one of the topics that includes some
comments about a website you own. I would like to
encourage your participation, and invite you to join
the board and participate.

If you have any difficulties registering, please send
an email to THIS address and I will help you.

- Dan


And now, the last exchange

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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:06:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan <icpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: From Jim again
To: "jim@agencyscams.com" <jim@agencyscams.com>
Cc: info@love-from-russia.be
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Jim,

All the personal information about you is now removed.

Please take note of two important facts:

1) If the people who posted that information were able
to find identifying information about you, it is
possible for others to do the same. Your personal
information must be public knowledge somewhere.

2) The RWD (Russian Women Discussion) board has Rules
for Posting that clearly states we take NO
RESPONSIBILITY for information posted by a member. We
will try, upon proper notification and within a
reasonable timeframe, to remove any highly incendiary
material - though the general rules of the board are
that it is open to all for a fair and honest discourse
with VERY little censorship. Each member is
responsible for what they post - period.

Now, I know that Bruno has even established an account
for you and all you need to do is click on a link from
the email you received, and you will be registered.

You are free to respond to the posts - just do so
professionally and do not attack. Let the facts speak
for themselves and post the truth - but by all means,
vigorously defend your integrity if you believe it has
been maligned.

I welcome you to the RWD and hope to see you on the
board real soon.

- Dan

--- "jim@agencyscams.com" <jim@agencyscams.com> wrote:

> Dan,
>
>    I mailed off my last letter before reading you
> email. I WILL come and join the board, but cordial,
> and help you, if I can. BUT you HAVE TO remove that
> personal information about me. I can't believe
> someone did that. And I will be surprised if you
> don't change it. When you have removed it, let me
> know and I will come and try to explain my position.
>
> --
> Best of luck,
> Jim
>
> The Original Anti-Scam Site - http://agencyscams.com
> The Agency Checklist Site - http://jimslists.com
> Advice From Guys Who Have Been There -
> http://rwguide.com


Great, Jim is ready to reply only if Dan censor the post of Felice... Dan censor Felice... and now, Jim is always invisible...

My conclusion are simple... Felice is a parano, Jim a manipulator, and Dan not strong enough... until the article was a copy and paste from a other one where the original is on antiscam.net ... Dan was not responsible of this... but maybe he was afraid of the big Jim...

In these world, everybody manipulate everybody... but myself, i fear nobody... i go always try search the truth, respect honesty... nobody can buy me and make pression on me... Dan can ban me or censor my post by fear... Jim can list me in his black list... it is not a problem for me... nothing can stop the true to come...

Yep, Jim, i have try to help you but you have choice to manipulate people in place of a honest reply... you have miss the opportunity to win the respect from the people of this board... You have make pression on Dan for have the result you wish...

Now, for people who wish read the full article copy by Felice, visit http://www.antiscam.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=2439 ... the article is not already censored at these place... And if Jim wish make a lawsuit against me, he can, i take the responsability of the publish of this link... and i am not afraid to give my own contact information... honest people have nothing to hide...

Bruno Thoumsin, Godshuistraat 13, 9185 Wachtebeke, Belgium

Personal E-mail : bruno.thoumsin@telenet.be

International passport :



National passport :



 

[Kvinna]

----- Original Message -----
From: German Cordoba <socota1998@yahoo.com>
Subject: Great baby,

Babe the idea is that you make money with everyone of
> your friends. I just do not sell photos, what we do is
> that when someone start writting to a lady, most of
> the time the man wants some photos, some men want hot
> erotic photos and someother want regular photos, so
> when someone order photos, this are exclusive, go to
> www.thedatingame.com home page, go to services, then
> to other services and then you will see Glamour Photos
> and how much we charge, I can give you $120. when they
>
> order 20 photos and $60.00 for 10 photos.

That the idea and what I have told you many mature men
> prefer the young beautiful boby, did you received my
> e-mail on the trips and the tell of the 72 year old
> men that give the girl 1,500 for aweek rest? there are
> many like that.

OK, I will answer your questions, to sell your photos
> you need to put your profile in the site, If no one
> see you no one will order the photos, so you need to
> do that, do not worry about me, I want you to make
> money.
>
> Men are cheap and most of the time they send a one
> line or two line letter wich is no good. I
> will send your profile with photos to several potential
> customers, most are mature man with money bewteen
> 40-60
> years old, some will want a vacation, some may want a
> wife, but we have better chances in getting a positive
> response with good photos, there are a lot of girls in
> the internet so the competition is hard. If the trip
> is overseas or to Europe, the men paids for the
> passport, visa,airline tickets,hotel room,meals,taxis,
> everything, he will paid the agency in advance, then
> we will but the tickets for the girl, get the
> passport,visa,money for expences and you will receive
> the money from me. We need the girls to be very
> serious and real, you do not want SCAMS, most men here
> are afraid of that, I was scam many times, but learned
> the hard way.
>
> If someone do not want to go in a vacation but want to
> buy some hot photos, we get paid in advance
> and as you said we can give some money to her also,
> you will do that.
>
> You can find a lot of girls in the University, all
> they have to do is look at the web site, and they
> notice that is one of the best in the internet. The
> most important thing are the photos, if they have good
> regular photos is fine, if they also have some hot
> photos, that is better, we can always use them for
> mailings but we do not show them at the site.
>
> I think that you can make a lot of money in the site
> if you do it right, the associate in Kiev, she is 24
> years old and has 4 people and a driver working for
> her
> she has a lot of girls, interpreters,companios,etc.
> you can do the same and I am here to help, if the
> business is good I can open and offce there and have
> some girls helping.

in this business you
> never know, she may get lucky and have several men
> that want to meet her for vacation, my friend
> Vikrtoria
> in Kiev, was meeting one men a month in
> Kiev,Warsaw,Paris, and she makes a nice living and a
> lot of money.
>
> My name is German but as everyone in the net a lot of
> people use another name. Any question, let me know.
>
On the vacations:
>
> 1-We will provided one room for the men and one room
> for the lady, if they want to sleep together is up
> to
> them.
>
> 2-They will decide what kind of sex they want to have,
> we try to find only normal and good men.
>
> 3-Variations, you mean oral sex,anal sex, 69,? again
> they are adults and they will decide what to do, we
> do not get involved.
>
> 4-When a men want to meet a woman, they will exchange
> letters and talk before they go in a vacation.
>

 
if you are really interested to make this business more honest and clear, you can help us to close this site and to do something to this shitty man called German Cordoba

German Cordoba
Dynacon-Director
Socota1998@yahoo.com
Londres #244-1 Piso Col.
Juarez, Mexico D.F.
Mexico
Phone: (+525)-5-514-0514
Fax: (+525)-5-525-2357
German Cordoba
Dynacon-Director


other info you can find:  http://www.antidate.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=477&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

http://www.livejournal.com/users/antidate/20269.html

 

[Bruno]

Close these site will be difficult... he is in Mexico, these letter don't allow make something against him... the address of the business is in Curryville, Missouri...

But maybe we can try to block him... for the level of Europe, i can try that his site was blocked... but for this, i need your help...

You have a letter publish on antidate... were he write...

"A mother of 32 years and her daughter 16-17,from Kherson when to Egypt for 7 days, the mens where 50 and 55, they sleep on one room with two double beds.
they told me that they have great sex, everyone was happy. "

"Another good one is a lady she was 35 very super hot, great ass, and she love it to get in in the ass and I just to go and sleep in her house, she had a beautiful hot 16 year old daugther, also with a great ass like her mother, she was worry that some man was going to fuck her the wrong way, and she want her daugther to learn to have good sex, so she ask me to have sex also with her daughter, and teached her well, so I just to have sex with the mother and the daugter, I just to do her ass and she also love it like her mother. "

Now, in Europa, something like this is prohibith... it is called pedophilie... and a organisation called "Child Focus" treat so case... at the level of Europa, they can block the access to the site... so, it will be a loose of client... and he will not more be able to organize his meeting in Europa...

Now, for this, i need a full copy of the e-mail publish on your site, with the header... any prove who link the sender of e-mail to the owner of the site... full e-mail of other... when we have something enough strong, i can submit the case to "Child Focus"...

Now, about the site be located in US, if the case is enough strong with prove, i think that US will not like this... but really, i don't know the US law... and for the mexican, it is the same...

We cannot stop him because he promote sex but he promote sex with children... this can be his error... i only hope that the person who have receive all these e-mail have always the original... the header are really need... the IP allow us to find the internet provider and the message ID allow the provider to find the real address of the sender... without this, we have no prove and we can only make him some bad publicity...

[Felice]

Hi Bruno, am I parano? I did receive yersterday an e-mail from an agency dma (duet) blacklisted by Jim They wrote: We are no scammers. I did tell, I don't say that but Jim says it. Today they did answer their adress dma@westukraine.net  : Dear Mr. Felice, How can we write to Mr. Jim?  Please write his e-mail . We could not open web-site. Maybe thwe link you give is noit right http://agencyscamsbecause  ?

Best regards,

Duet Team

Who is that agency? I don't know, most likely Jim does not know too!!!

But he blacklisted them. Bruno, do you as Belgium believe that "Den Eddy, de kannibaal"  is English? Who is parano? Check all my info or let's meet on: Bij de Ronde van vlaanderen op de Koppenberg. Do check my info or stop saying that my info is not righ. Jim does not have the guts to answer me, not now, never.

 

 

[Kvinna]

Прежде в�его хочу пред�тавить��. Мен� зовут Юрий Я цев � руководитель Украин�кого филиала �тудии ifstudio. Извин�ю�ь за запоздавший ответ, не�колько ча�ов назад � вернул�� из командировки.
Мне очень непри�тно �лышать такие вещи про одного из наших клиентов. У на� нет никакой причины не верить вам - но в то же врем� мы не можем вам поверить.
Как вы уже знаете - �то �туди� веб дизайна. Е�ли вам непон�тно, что �то такое - мы занимаем�� разработкой, внедрением и дальнейшей поддержкой веб-�айтов наших клиентов.
Среди наших работ �уще�твует и упом�нутый вами �айт. Да �тот �айт был разработан по заказу пана Германа Кордоби. Он и е�ть его полновла�тным хоз�ином. Что ка�ает�� whois информации - она никогда не была закрытой и �вл�ет�� пудлично до�тупной � момента реге�трации доменного имени ( в противном �лучае, никака� даже хитра� программа не помогла бы вам получить информацию такого типа). В�е контактные данные в �той информации дей�твительно запи�аны на на�, по�кольку � �огла�и� г. Кордобы мы полно�тью вз�ли на �еб� заботу физиче�кого размещени� данного �айта (веб-хо�тинг) на �ою�твенной �ерверной пощадке.
По�тому еще раз отвеча� на вашу про�ьбу, подтверждаю, в�е права на информацию, размещенную на �том �айте, так же как и �ам �айт принадлежат Герману Кордобе. В тоже врем� пан Кордоба полно�тью ответ�твенный за �облюдение или не�облюдение в�ех правил и у�ловий пользовани� �айтом, определенных и опи�анных на его �айте.
Указанные вами �л. адре�а также принадлежат Герману Кордобе.
Е�ли �казанное вами окажет�� правдой, то мы вынужденны будем отказать�� от дальнейшего �отрудниче�тва � паном Кордобою и предложим ему во�пользовать�� у�лугами наших конкурентов.
Е�ли допу�тить, что мы верим вам, нам о�тает�� непон�тным, что ожидала не�овершеннолетн�� девочка от перепи�ки � взро�лым мужчиной. �е говор� уже о получении определенной �увммы денег.
Это уже больше похоже на мошенниче�тво, за которое придет�� отвечать родител�м.
По моему мнению родител�м �ледует каким то образом контролировать до�туп девочки к различным �айтам международных знаком�тв до до�тижени� ею �овершеннолети�.
Таким образом родители �могут избежать возможных проблем � п�ихикой ребенка а также юридиче�ких проблем � законом.
Е�ли � могу каким-то образом вам помоч, не колеба��ь пишите мне.
Так же вы можете опубликовать �то пи�ьмо на форуме.
Будьте любезны уведомить на� про результаты вашего ра��ледовани� как только они по�в�т��.
С уважением,
Юрий

the letters I have re-sent to you by regular e-mail

[Felice]

Bruno, am I really parano? Why? Is what I do tell unbelievable for you. I was the one finding Anna Bogdan as bride and president in her own scamagency www.2oceansoflove.com I did send this info to about 6 blacklists as www.scamalert.freeservers.com  to www.antiscam.net to the manager of First Dream to www.russian-scam.org to elena@womenrussia,com to www.stop-scammers.com and http://uaprofiler.com

Jim did answer: He said: This is important information as 2 Oceans of Love is part of Angelika Network you must tell to Angelika Network. I never did answer him, I did not tell that to the scambosses from Angelika Network.

Later I found out that my info had been checked by one of these blacklists and that they had published an article in I do think RW Guide: Scamagency 2 Oceans of Love can of worms. I did find out that www.scamalert.freeservers.com had published in Knowledge than The Author's Big Agency Research why Bogdan did publidsh herself as bride in her own agency where she was president.

So at least two blacklists have published about this case. Parano? Who? Why Jim does not dare the confrontation with me? Publishing now? Yes in RW Guide of course, telling his normal bull.

 

Jim McDonald is a coward and a scammer folling people by recommending all agencies whoo have an affliate program or pay him, his only knowledge from scamming is how to scam himself: The coward will never dare a confrontation here with me, nor will all others mentioned do ever dare

 

[Admin]

Great, Jim is ready to reply only if Dan censor the post of Felice... Dan censor Felice... and now, Jim is always invisible...

My conclusion are simple... Felice is a parano, Jim a manipulator, and Dan not strong enough... until the article was a copy and paste from a other one where the original is on antiscam.net ... Dan was not responsible of this... but maybe he was afraid of the big Jim...

In these world, everybody manipulate everybody... but myself, i fear nobody... i go always try search the truth, respect honesty... nobody can buy me and make pression on me... Dan can ban me or censor my post by fear... Jim can list me in his black list... it is not a problem for me... nothing can stop the true to come...

Yep, Jim, i have try to help you but you have choice to manipulate people in place of a honest reply... you have miss the opportunity to win the respect from the people of this board... You have make pression on Dan for have the result you wish...

Bruno,

Yes, you are correct that I edited a small amount of the message Felice posted. The reason I did so is quite simple. The internet is no place for posting personal information, particularly if someone has a family they wish to protect. In this case, Jim asked that his personal information be removed and I did not see that as changing the substance of Felice's post, hence, in the interest of protecting someone's personal identity, I removed ONLY those parts of the post which could allow someone to easily locate Jim.

As I pointed out to him, since the information was posted once, it is likely it is available to others.

Notably, Jim has again written to me by email, and I will be writing him to tell him I will ONLY address his concerns on the open board for all to see.

You can consider what I did not strong enough - but I chose (and will do so again) to make mistakes on the side of protecting someone. When I recognize the possibility that information posted on the board might spill over into the real world and endanger someone, then I feel obligated to respond.

I have said in the past that I do not trust "Honest Jim" and I think his websites are bogus. I said this long before the current eruption on the board. Still, Jim should not have to fear that someone will learn of his identify and living address from this board.

OTOH, if someone (like yourself Bruno) wishes to post all their information on the open internet - that is your choice. But surely you agree that a person should make that choice themselves - and not have others posting that information for them - yes?

And finally - why is it that about once a week someone makes a post referencing banning? I have only banned one person long ago and that was because they had a singular mission which was to attack one other member of the board. I am not about to ban, or censor, you Bruno.

- Dan

[Felice]

I would nearly feel sorry for now "POOR" Jim.

Everybody mentioned by me may answer me. Let Misses Julia Grindle deny that she sold a ticket to Life in Love scammer Julia Slepuhina, please inform them and let them explain. Let all the ones mentioned come. no one will appear.

So Bruno don't say that I am parano. They may all come. When I do say that in Natasha Club is a banner with 3 scammers amongst them the former NUMBER ONE girl of www.1st-international.com a girl named Miriam from Moscow. She is still now scamming in Matchdoctor as mirmirm and has a profile there in Bulgaria. After reporting her to 1st-international , better said comtinue to report her to www.1st-international.com I did get 3 virusses from them. Maybe parano Bruno. Ask them? Ask all the ones I did and do mention, please do! They will not be at home.

 

Reply here Jim no he will ask to ban me, cowards and scammers are they.

[Admin]

Reply here Jim no he will ask to ban me, cowards and scammers are they.

No Felice, I certainly do NOT feel sorry for Jim. He made a website that I felt was of dubious merit, and in the process, he apparently offended some hard-working and honest people. There are consequences to our actions, and in this instance, Jim must live with his decisions.

And while Jim has NOT asked me to ban you, he did ask that I remove the personal contact information from the site, and I did so. I explained in another post (to Bruno) why I felt the obligation to remove that information.

Felice, please consider expanding your posts to other topics. I feel certain you have a great deal of useful information and knowledge to share with the group, and I welcome your participation in topics other than "Honest Jim."

Please consider my request.

- Dan

[Felice]

Dan I understand your position and it is fair to delete the personals from Jim, because I did not bring him in problems, he was allready.

Jim will never reply to me nor will any of the agencies about who I was believing Bruno parano. Jim has no idea about who he ever speaks so he can imposibly have an idea who does post this., Bruno should have: Awel, Bruno ge zijt ene schone vent.

Dan nobody of the accused agencies here mentioned will ever answer me. Why not? I simply tell the truth! And Jim? He is faker number ONE in this world.

Manipulator indeed Bruno, Tot op de Koppenberg.

[Felice]

Dan, you invite me to react in the other topics. It is an honour to read it.

I did never want to publish, the things I do tell are all true. 100%

I just published because the nonsense produced by many others but especially Jim was reason to say: Now I tell the truth about these blacklists and"recommended agencies. Had they ever had 1% more brain all had been avoided.

I am not even interested in these cheaters, I do not own an agency, I do not earn on dating, but I know who they are, they know that too or not , never mind.

Not one of the offended people/agencies by me will have the guts to respond to me. Ask them why? Being silent than the clouds will go away, they hope.

Did Elena Petrova delete once blacklisted scammer Elena Darashieva from Moscow blacklisted in the now closed blacklist from Bob Captainwww.russianblacklist.com She was listed there on blackpage 5 photo 3

I told Misses Petrova but she thought, let him talk. Darashieva was also  a suspected scammer.  Search by Google for: "scam Darashieva" and you find her.

I told Saul Hudson about Darashieva running in Elenas Models and that Misses Petrova  refused to delete this former blacklisted scammer. Guess what Saul said: Do you have e-mails where she did ask you money. I said: Yip here we go, when it becomes difficult they say things like that. Darashieva which profile Misses Petrova refused to delete was listed as scammer in the closed blacklist: Russian Blacklist another agency listed her as suspected scammer and in First Dream you find her on page 1 with 3 profiles under/right, but she was blackisted as Elena Darashieva, the profile which Elena the Great Petrova refused to delete.

After to much evidence Darashieva silently disappeared from Elenas models. It sucks.

I had it several times there by the way why does she have duplicates in her data-base?

 

[Bruno]

Bruno, am I really parano? Why? Is what I do tell unbelievable for you. I was the one finding Anna Bogdan as bride and president in her own scamagency http://www.2oceansoflove.com

Yes... Why ? Very simple... In 1996, i have start my first site "love from russia" because i was tired to use a lot of money in agency without result... of course, because i was alone and searching a bride, my own profile was on the top of my site... of course with your logic, i was president, webmaster and groom... so i was a scammer ???...

Why the president of a site have not the right to search a man... if these Anna Bogdan have wish search a man, why she cannot use his own service... of maybe you have wish that she use a other agency ...

If you have a shop who sell food, where you buy your food, in your own shoop of by the concurent ?

You see, only your first example show how you are parano... but maybe she was really a scammer, maybe she have ask money to man, maybe she was already married with someone other... but in so case, say it and with some evidence... but from the information you give, it is only attack...

Now, about Jim, i have already say what i think and he is not better that you...

[Bruno]

I told Misses Petrova but she thought, let him talk. Darashieva was also  a suspected scammer.  Search by Google for: "scam Darashieva" and you find her.

Yep, i have make the search... so now, i publish the result from google :

Your search - scam Darashieva - did not match any documents.

Sorry, Felice, but until now, you post only wind... but maybe you go say now that Google is corrupt by the marriage agency and the scam list...

In place of post kilometer of venon... make post about only one case with some evidence...

Guess what Saul said: Do you have e-mails where she did ask you money. I said: Yip here we go, when it becomes difficult they say things like that.

I think that so reaction is normal... if you accuse someone, you need evidence... but it seem that you wish that other reply to you and show evidence that they are not guilty... usually, in our modern justice system, it is the accusator who need to prove the charge... the inquisition was something of the middle-age...

[Felice]

Dan about AfA is www.aforeignaffair.com they are so lovely too.

Search by Google for: Galina Evpatoria You will find a nice blonde lady telling to be sometimes 33 and sometimes 37. How old is she? She does not exist!

She told to an agency owned by John from ... I did really forget his agency that her profiles were different. He did ask her age and she said, I a, 32 (than) Later I foound her in an agency being 36, I reported her. They did phone her and said you are wring to me. I said ask her passport. There was coming a passport being 36. I did send them John's e-mail where she told to be 32.

I did find this lady as the blonde one and as another Galina from Evpatorua with the same birthday. I thought, this stinks. She must be the blonde one. The other profile you see now as Nina from Odessa 000682 In Elenas Models. I did confront AFA with these two different women being one person. They did answer: Our agency in kiev does tell, that this is the same woman (a blue-eyed and brown-eyed the same).

we will delete one profile. They deleted the blonde one. after I did send them the woman running in Elenas Models they deleted the other one too, this story is told to blacklists, they never published. The blonde Galina Chernyak had 8 profiles in www.1st-international.com akll 8 dufferent, 3 different burthdays, two different professions, 4 didderent language skills. I said them once: Don't you never check your profiles: We only check the number of credit-cards was their answer.

So AFA recommended by Jim the Fakwer as number two on his Gold List LOL

[Felice]

Bruno, Go to www.firstdream.com there blackpage 1 look under right and smell my wind. Maybe the name s not exactly Darashieva but something like that, maybe Darashieva has been deleted from that blacklisting.

I see, it is Elena Darachieva how she is listed, Bruno you must know I make small mistakes but never big ones.

www.russian-women-links.net/darachieva.html-18k

But blacklisted and named as Darashieva in other sites/blacklists

[Felice]

Dating is big fun. Untill this very moment Jim with his fake blacklist Agencyscams was fighting Saul with his fake blacklist Antiscam.net about the 50% which Elenas Models gives to her affiliates.

Brits have an extreme good sense of humor. The best joke I ever heard is told by Saul: He said: Do you know who I am? I am recommended by El;enas Models!

Hahaha hahaha

[Bruno]

Bruno, Go to http://www.firstdream.com there blackpage 1 look under right and smell my wind. Maybe the name s not exactly Darashieva but something like that, maybe Darashieva has been deleted from that blacklisting.

I see, it is Elena Darachieva how she is listed, Bruno you must know I make small mistakes but never big ones.

http://www.russian-women-links.net/darachieva.html-18k

But blacklisted and named as Darashieva in other sites/blacklists

I have search to firstdream... but nothing about the lady in the first page...

The link second link you give is not working... the possible URL is http://www.russian-women-links.net/darahchieva.html ... and what we can read in the title : "a possible scammer from moscow"... POSSIBLE... and now what are the charge and evidence : "She is a problem lady. She is looking for a rich prince and has not enough time to pay attention to usual men. Does not agree to reply to the letters. Does not agree to get the flowers and so on." ... Nothing bad here, if a woman wish a rich man , it is his own choice... and she reply and receive flower from who she will... if i have listed in scam list all woman who have not interest in me, they was more that 1000 for 2004... and she is not listed in other place...

Again accusation without something strong...

And about your previous post... Galina Evpatoria has several profile with different data... is she a scam for this ??? Several agency copy profile from other site... and sometime they don't very good copy... Is the lady a scammer because of the bad practice of some agency ? No, of course... and yourself, you have ask a copy of the lady passport and she have send it to you... Do you think that a scammer go make this ???

Again accusation without something strong...

Felice accuse woman without evidence... one is a scammer because she don't wish a usual man... a other is a scammer because some data are wrong on some profile ( but she have send passport without problem )... now, all is very simple... all your post are only diffamation... your profile will be perfect for antidate.org , in the scammer section... yes, you are a scammer, you hunt woman without wishing to marry one, you contact them for have copy of passport but only for hurt her...

If you are really a man, don't be afraid... show who you are, give your real name... in my country, a people like you is named a "corbeau" : false accussation without any evidence and with the cover of anonyma... this is prohibith by our law... you can find very good hospital for you, specialy the psychiatric section...

Dan have never banned someone... but i think that it is the best for these forum to ban you... maybe other member of forum can give his own meaning about this... i begin really tired to control each of your post and show that you are wrong in your accusation about ladies...