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Offline Mir

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Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« on: February 20, 2007, 02:37:52 AM »
This may sound like beating the old drum about age differences but there is a slightly different perspective.
It is clear that there is no such thing as an incorrect age difference for a marriage, however I think that generally speaking a gap of up to 10 years would be considered normal and a gap of more then 15 years rather unusual and more so if the lady is less then 30 years old.
Somehow I have noticed that in majority of relationships with an age difference of more the 15 years the lady is from Russia.
My question is that is there a different outlook regarding age in Russian compared with Ukraine in that ladies from Russia are more accepting of a large age difference?
Perhaps the ladies who read this forum are able to comment?
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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 11:00:02 AM »
Beating the old drum, I will not touch upon a subject as  complex  :)
Age differences can not stand in the way of love as  concrete reasons - difference of characters, interests,  circle of  contact and the  negative reaction of the public or our own reaction.
We have to take into account the interests of age. For example some men are disposed to be stay-at-home and prefer a more serene mode of life getting older but a  young woman of twenty or twenty five is at her  rapid life activity. Giving her love a man who is older than her, she can  sacrifice her nature but some time or other it will take the shape of conflicts as inward depression or depression with aggressive emotions. Do not let your young wife  bury her  youth.  :)
Sex is another not the least of the aspects...

The compromise and understanding are significant factors in a family life.

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 01:13:11 PM »
So you mean to say that all these men here who have wives and girlfriends 20-30 years younger are sex gods?
Well maybe :)

Anyway my question was is it more acceptable for a Russian girl to marry a much older man as compared with a Ukrainian girl?

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 01:19:07 PM »
I thought views on the age difference question are about the same ie. Ukrainian and Russian.  I'll start a new poll to flush the difference out on our board.  Mir, perhaps it is just that there are more guys on this board married to RW with a larger age difference gap than those married to UW. 
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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 01:45:50 PM »
Woman is woman in Africa too. She has two arms two legs and one head  :)

Age differences are  a matter of taste  :)

Question of sex is very delicate.  ;)
We just should  compare a desire with a reality, know our potentialities  to turn possibility into reality and of course  forecast the future  :)

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 02:13:50 PM »
Olga

So if a woman in Africa is the same as in FSU then why are there thousands of FSU women on dating/marriage sites while there are much fewer African women?
OK I know you will say that the African women have no internet,so why don't the French or German women have so many adverts?
Yes there are reasons for that which means that while all women have two arms,two legs and a head not all women think in the same way. It is this thought process we are talking about.
Yes it is a mater of taste,so do Russian women have different tastes to Ukrainian when it comes to age or as Bruce suggests I am getting the wrong impression from this site?

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 02:37:33 PM »
Mir,
I think you use the statistical date of "Age difference and country where wife is from" - 3 Ukraine women and 6 Russian women. It is obvious disbalance.  :) We should take into account 10 Ukrainians and 10 Russians  and then  draw a conclusion  :)

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 02:54:41 PM »
That's my favourite topic:P :D ;D

Old men can take not only youth but can look young cos they got young wives, it is on a special level  some men are energetic vampires who can not let go their youth and they feed themselves with young wives:P

I repeat it is not that every old man is like that , it is some of them

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2007, 03:03:14 PM »
That's my favourite topic:P :D ;D

Old men can take not only youth but can look young cos they got young wives, it is on a special level  some men are energetic vampires who can not let go their youth and they feed themselves with young wives:P

I repeat it is not that every old man is like that , it is some of them


Okay, it's a cultural phenom but what is your sense about whether it is correct morally?
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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 03:13:37 PM »
Okay, it's a cultural phenom but what is your sense about whether it is correct morally?

Correct morally??? 

Give yourself an uppercut Alfie!!!  Who's to judge the morality of a couple based on the age gap?

Answer me this... 

Is it "correct morally" to give support and encouragement to someone who's seeking a FSUW when they clearly have emotional and/or psychological problems?

Mate.. before you start considering the morality of relationships based on age gaps I think you have some re-engineering of your own recent questionable behaviour.

Have you spoken to the girl yet or beaten some sense into your idiot friend?


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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2007, 03:13:58 PM »
Olga

Well that is what I am trying to find out,is there a balanced distribution?

JC

So you mean all older men married to younger women are vampires? Maybe some of the younger women are the vampires feeding on the older men :)

Prince

Are you suggesting that a large age difference is not correct morally?

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 03:17:16 PM »
Olga

Well that is what I am trying to find out,is there a balanced distribution?

JC

So you mean all older men married to younger women are vampires? Maybe some of the younger women are the vampires feeding on the older men :)

Prince

Are you suggesting that a large age difference is not correct morally?

I was asking about Jazzy's view on whether large age differences was a moral or ethical perrogrative according to Russian custom.
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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 03:36:07 PM »
I was asking about Jazzy's view on whether large age differences was a moral or ethical perrogrative according to Russian custom.

Yeah... right on winder!  It really sounded like that!   >:(

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 03:40:33 PM »
Before we start discussing the morality of the issue and the motives of such union let me try to re-state my question from a different angle.
We know that the people who live in Ukraine can be divided into two types.
Type 1.Those who consider Russian to be their first language, these live predominantly in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea.
     Type 2.Those who consider Ukrainian as their first language. These are mainly concentrated in the Western part of Ukraine.

Now there is an obvious predominance of the type 1 ladies on the marriage sites. My guess is that all the men married to a woman from Ukraine married to a type 1 lady.
Jazzy once remarked that all the scammers are from Ukrainian cities. Well actually scammers are from all FSU cities but the largest number is based in Lugansk, in the Russian part of Ukraine. And they are more or less matched by the ones in Rostov which not far from Lugansk but in Russia.
So why are Russian speaking girls in Ukraine and Russia so keen to marry a Western man?
And some would be keen enough to ignore a large age difference.
Is it only economic? Is it that there is much higher number of bad men in the Russian speaking communities c/w the Ukrainian speaking communities? Are the women from Eastern Ukraine just too proud and content that they do not like to advertise themselves on such sites?
Just some questions to ponder.




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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 03:46:22 PM »
It is less an matter of age ... more a matter of chemistry and league.


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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 03:48:45 PM »
Morally incorrect?  Give me a F'ing break.  This from a man who is a practicing member of a sect who, in their heart of hearts, still believe plural marriages are OK.  Do I sense a bit of the pot calling the kettle black?

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2007, 05:45:55 PM »
Going back to the original question of are ladies from Russia or Ukraine more accepting of large age differences my two cents worth are that it is the same.   I have probably written to more gals with a large age difference than most anyone here and met a number of gals with the same and I do not see the women from one country being more receptive than the other.

As far as the moral issue you gotta be kidding.   Yes, maybe if there is a large age difference and she is 8 that is highly immoral.  A relationship with a large age difference may well be undesirable to some but not to others and some may feel it puts more challenges in a relationship but moral.  If they are both adults it is moral.

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2007, 05:54:07 PM »
persoanally i believe itis quite odd for a women say 20 or more years younger than the man.  it would look silly ,people would be confused is it a daughter grandaughter,  then when they realize it is couple then they start asuming she is in the relationship for more reason and not physical attraction, money perhaps. then they think you know how gross.

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2007, 06:04:57 PM »
Then that would be "their" problem wouldn't it?

If you are happy together who gives a rat's ass what anyone else thinks? Do you think Catherine Zeta Jones was looked at like Mike Douglas's daughter and people thought gross? You've got some really strange modes of thinking going on there joty. You seem really focused on infidelity and the "age" factor and the "gross" factor to go with it. Sure you're not a feminazi troll?

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2007, 06:58:09 PM »
persoanally i believe itis quite odd for a women say 20 or more years younger than the man.  it would look silly ,people would be confused is it a daughter grandaughter,  then when they realize it is couple then they start asuming she is in the relationship for more reason and not physical attraction, money perhaps. then they think you know how gross.

HELLOOOOO???  IS ANYONE HOME????

Who the hell is joty anyway???  Some frumpy American housewife scorned because her husband married a woman that's much more beutiful than she ever was?

What looks ridiculous is a man and a woman being together when neither are happy. If a man is much older than his partner but they have a good quality relationship then isn't no one's damn business.

Anyone who judges another couple is obviously dissatisfied with their own relationship status.

joty...  you're deluding yourself is you think the majority of satisfied couples chose each other based on looks... and that goes for BOTH partners!  I think satisfied couples choose each other based on compatibility!

Sheeeesh!

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2007, 08:14:39 PM »
I was asking about Jazzy's view on whether large age differences was a moral or ethical perrogrative according to Russian custom.
You should ask :
1st - Your spell checker
2nd - Your English 101 grammar
3rd - Your Merriam Webster, or whatever else (Readers' Digest ?) you use as source of impressive words for your apparently profound-sounding questions.

Now, assuming you meant to write prerogative, this would "deobfuscate" your question into : "According to Russian custom, ARE large age differences a moral or ethical exclusive right".

Apart from the redundancy and vagueness of moral/ethical, your question lacks one ESSENTIAL rhetorical item : WHOSE prerogative ? Who is the implied subject ?

We have long become used to the utter idiocy of most of your posts, but could you a least show a minimum of respect for what is supposed to be your native language >:(?
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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2007, 09:32:48 PM »
Who the hell is joty anyway says kuna

helloooo kuna lol ,my name is john and i a from texas. i am a 49 year old american man who is engage to a lovely 46 year old russian women. We will be getting married in oct -07.  Nice to meet you.

  Let me address the reason for my post/ i have seen my brother who was married to a women 29 years younger then him and seen first hand what she was after,his money.  He is not with her anymore and has lost most everything so i am a bit bitter and suspious of such relationships.  They just dont work for alot of reasons/  This along with just the emotional level of differences caused many problems.  Thats the reason for the post.










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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2007, 09:56:03 PM »
Congratulations on your upcoming wedding John.   I hope you have the happiest marriage ever.   

I can understand your feelings with the bad experience your brother had.   Still there are lots of people such as KenC and DonAz who have happy marriages with a sizable age diffrence.   One case does not make an absolute rule. 

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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2007, 10:14:05 PM »
Who the hell is joty anyway says kuna

helloooo kuna lol ,my name is john and i a from texas. i am a 49 year old american man who is engage to a lovely 46 year old russian women. We will be getting married in oct -07.  Nice to meet you.

 










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Re: Age difference again: a cultural variation?
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2007, 10:18:35 PM »
Joty, I also wish you two the very best. I'd advise that you give up caring (immediately) what others think - as Kuna stated, it's really none of anybody's business. The odds are good that someone in your hometown will pass negative judgment on your choice of a life partner from a foreign country - a former Communist country at that - will that rattle your cage?

I've got no trouble accepting your preference for an extremely narrow difference in age - but to base that preference on others' perception (ie, what will they think? How gross!) is alarming.

 

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