Where's Turbo?

[Kuna]

  Something like answering Kuna's foolish comments that are mostly the same drivel he has said for ages is not worth the effort. 

Just out of interest... and I know I'll probably regret it... but which part of my post do you see as foolish?

[Mir]

I know what I was doing for those 11 years and if my experience is similar in any way to Turbo's he's not only a "nice guy"... he's one hell of a sex tourist.

I can't understand why a man can wear his time of ;sowing wild oats' in his own country as a badge of honour while if he does the same in FSU he is branded a sex tourist and considered a low life?

Kuna
I don't see TG bragging about what he is doing, yes he has discused his experiences here but so have others including your good self.
What you are doing (marrying a girl from FSU) is high risk as well. Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella

[BC]

Quote from: BC on Yesterday at 21:48:58

Reality does catch up with us however and after 5 years together we both today agree we have much tougher times ahead.

The mind is an amazing thing BC and I am sure if you convince yourself of that it will happen. 

Yes the mind is amazing.. - Although my mind may sometimes wander into the clouds, I much prefer that my feet remain on terra firma. The good thing is that I don't have to convince myself of anything but do prepare for possible hurdles ahead.. sort of boy scout vs space cadet..

[DKMM]

Hey Ray good to see you are still on here and getting along with your woman.  I'm a bit surprised that you still post as much as you do though, I sure as hell wouldn't be wasting my time doing that if I was you.. but i guess there is probably some time zone adjusting to do yet.  Good luck to you and VWRW. 

[LiveFromUkraine]

My ONLY concern is that others might look at Turbo's posts and think that his is a valid method of finding love and marriage in FSU.  Sure... following his method might give a one in a million chance, but I believe RWD is best at helping men reduce their risk and Turbo does NOTHING to reduce risk.

Kuna, why don't you get married first and actually live with your woman for some time before YOU start telling people what method of finding love and marriage is suitable for others.


Thomas

[LiveFromUkraine]

Same arguments going on I see.

Well news flash, this isn't about you guys but about Turbo and HIS fiance.

Would I have gone the same route?  Hell no.  If others want to follow in his footsteps they will soon learn whether it is for them or not.  People on here are not kids.  They need to figure out a good percentage for themselves.  You can't hold their hands through the whole process.

I know I have taken way different paths in my life than what the norm is.  I bet most people thought I was crazy.  Really crazy.  Some of the things didn't work out and some of the things did work out.  I had to find my own path and try different ways to figure it what I really wanted.  It also took me longer than most to figure these things out. 

As Turbo said, he wasn't looking for advice but people still seem to give it to him regardless.  Don't hand me the BS of worrying about others listening to Turbo.   I see alot of the same arguments more as EGO than advice.  If you don't like the advice Turbo says than post your own advice and let the person pick.  It isn't up to you or me to push the people into our advice because we think it is the best.



Thomas

[Turboguy]

Hi DKMM.   My biggest amount of free time is in the mornings.   VWRW is still sleeping a lot.   Usually 6 to 7 hours is plenty for me and 5 is enough if I need it to be.   Her first few days she was running abut 12 hours of sleep as she adjusted to the time change.   Now she is down to 9-10.   She always enjoys RWD and we have a few times that we will see what is happening together.

BC,  I respect your ideas and thoughts.  I also respect you.   We are well aware of the hurdles we could face and have discussed them very realistically.  

Mir, nice post.   Very true and I think anyone who discounts the risk involved is setting themselves up for trouble.

Kuna,  Not much, most just everything between your first and last words.  Kuna, the cold hard reality of it is that I am not going to waste my time and the time of those who visit here arguing point by point things where no matter how right I am (or not, since I can be wrong) that it will not accomplish anything.  I guess what you think is just insignifigant to me Kuna.

Kuna, I share more of things than many do.  You also to that.  Yes, I could do a long, long post called Turboguy, the untold story about some of the experiences of that 10 year search as some call it and about some of the reasons why it took so long.  It might actually be an interesting thread but don't look for it.  I don't have time even if I had the inclination.   I could post more about your good friend Pavel, and perhaps it would sound better or perhaps worse.   I did have dealings with Pavel.

Ken, I have said from Day one when I posted about her that I had my mind made up.  I have as much interest in discussing if VWRW and I are right for each other as you do about discussing if Lena is right for you.  If Kuna thinks you two are not a good match for example are you going to pack her bags and send her back to Russia?

It is fine with me if BC set as his goal that his wife be younger than his daughter.   This is what he, and society have programed in him as acceptable.   Some men are programed to only be attracted to blonds.  Some are only attracted to short women or tall women.    For me, I don't care about hair color, I don't care about height and I don't care about age.   I have dated lots of women in America with a large age difference.   I have dated some with very little age difference.  The same applies to RW in the FSU.    

The reality of it is that at this stage it creates very little problem for us if any.   VWRW commented that in our big shopping trip to the mall not a single person seemed to care in any way.  No one stared, no one commented, no one acted funny that we were just another couple.   It has been that way the whole time we are together.  
We are as happy together as any two people could be.  

Nice posts Thomas,  Right on the money.

[wiz]

Gator

Turbo, you have your hands full with VWRW.  Do not defend yourself here.  Take Vaughn’s advice and concentrate on helping her adjust and achieve her dreams.  Do not waste any of your energy on people who somehow can not wish you well without criticizing you for the 1000th time.

Ray

Why the hell don't you take Gator's advice and wasting your time with people who will always criticise, deride you and use you as a punch ball to have fun and also show their superior knowledge in relationships and life in general?

Sorry (Grandad) Ray but you are a fool (No offence indented) !!!!!!!!!!!!!

You had a goal, it was your wish, it's your life, you made your choice and you have to live with it! Why for God's sake you care what the other's think of you and your relationship with VWRW?

You know my views about Huge age difference (I don't agree) but would that make any difference to your life with VWRW?

Enjoy life with Irene and don't give a s.h.i.t.e what anybody else is thinking about you!

I wish you both good luck and every happiness.

Whiz

[SANDRO43]

 

[KenC]

I can't understand why a man can wear his time of ;sowing wild oats' in his own country as a badge of honour while if he does the same in FSU he is branded a sex tourist and considered a low life?

Mir,
Actually a very good point IMO.  There are many areas in which Turbo and I disagree, but I never ever thought of him as a "sex tourist."  It is obvious that his goal was always to find a wife and it is only natural that some sex was involved along the way.
KenC

[Gator]

I made a post on the “Turbo Keep Us Posted” thread which has not been tainted by the anti-Turbo sentiments.  I hope that other thread remains positive.  Meanwhile, if someone has a bad day at the office they can come to this thread and punch the Turbo punching bag.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=5825.msg109073#new

[KenC]

Turbo,
I have sent you a PM, but I want to publicly apologise for bringing up any negative thoughts in this thread.  This is not the time or place for such matters.  I hope you will start a new thread regarding your budding relationship with VWRW in PA.  Regardless of our differences, you too deserve all the positive thoughts and well wishes others are currently enjoying from members here at RWD.
Sincerely,
KenC

[Turboguy]

Thanks Ken,  Personally I don't think how long it takes someone to find the right person is important.   Luck, effort and what someone is looking for are all going to play a part.

I will say this.  If hunting for the right woman for that long puts me in the looser category, then my results as a sex tourist would have to be about the worst in history and would make me well below the absolute total failure category as a sex toursit.   

[KenC]

Thanks Ken,  Personally I don't think how long it takes someone to find the right person is important.   Luck, effort and what someone is looking for are all going to play a part.
I will say this.  If hunting for the right woman for that long puts me in the looser category, then my results as a sex tourist would have to be about the worst in history and would make me well below the absolute total failure category as a sex toursit.   

Ray,
Let us not get into all of that here because we have a different viewpoint on the why it took you so long, OK?  I am trying to think "happy thoughts" about you and VWRW.
KenC

[Simoni]

Actually, it was another poster who introduced this criticism of how long it takes to find a wife into this thread.   Unfortunate, and counterproductive, IMHO.  Let's have some class here.

[Turboguy]

Thank you Ken and thank you Simoni.   If someone wants to find something to pick on there will always be things.  I think sometimes we just need to realize that most everyone here is looking for the same thing in the best way they can. 

Thanks for the happy thoughts Ken,  Both VWRW and myself are full of happy thoughts right now. 

[Makkin]

Hello Ray,

  I'm really happy for you and your lady as you enter the personal journey together.

  Thanks for always answering questions from me in the past and doing your best to help other people without an attitude of judgement and those type things.

  I too hope to be in your shoes one day but with my single parent status and that type of schedule as well as work and such it may take me 11 years in all to actually get to your stage..lol

  All in all I have nothing but respect and warm feelings for you and your future wife and hope that you both have everything in life you ever desire and that your friendships and kindness always lead you in the right direction which I have to doubt will always be the case.

Your Friend,

Makkin

[Turboguy]

Thanks Makkin, that was a really nice post.   Sometimes we have a lot of things in our life that keep us from dedicating the time we would like.   I have been there myself and I am glad I finally got to the point that I decided to do whatever I had to to find the right woman and end the searching stage.   The timing on everything was perfect since the gal I ended up with is just really perfect for me.   I am sure some wonder why we would have anything in common yet in reality we seem to have everything in common.