The Intro

[ScottinCrimea]

It does get rather old to hear people say, "Hey, I can win the lottery!  I know several people who know someone who has won, so I can too!"  DJ's doing the same.  His odds of finding the type of woman he is looking for are about the same. Sure some people have won, but you don't find people in chat rooms or walking about talking about how they have played every week, spent thousands and have nothing.  It can be easy to get a distorted view of what the real odds are.

If he is prepared to spent a LOT of time and a LOT of money, sure he just might find what he is looking for, but the odds are against him and the longer it takes the longer the odds.  That's just the facts.  I have no problem with him going for it.  Hey, it's his life.  But I'm not going to sugarcoat it or encourage him.

[Misha]

It is much more likely for Russian girls to marry nonwhite when these men are actually living in Russia.
I even know a Bangladeshi and a Pakistani both Muslim who are married to Russian women.
However doing it by distance dating and internet agencies will be rather more difficult.

Mir, you are stating the obvious, it would be like saying that Russian girls are more likely to marry white men actually living in Russia. A lot of women from Russia are choosing partners that are not from Europe and North America. In the forums for Russian woman, I read the stories about the women who have fallen in love with men from Turkey and elsewhere. 

[Simoni]

I am in a good mood. USCIS website said they just sent out my k-1 approval notice.

Congrats, Billy!  You have had such a long wait.  I'm glad your time is drawing nearer.

~Si

[Simoni]

Me too. Bored stiff. But we have football this afternoon. Had poker last night.

W are having friends over to watch the cowboy/giant game.  Just went for snacks and beer-- $155.00!   WTF?   Lots of beer....including weird sweet stuff for the girls.  Should be a good time 

[ScottinCrimea]

Congrats, Billy!  You have had such a long wait.  I'm glad your time is drawing nearer.

~Si

I assume you mean that it has been such a long wait since he has been in a good mood?   

[William3rd]

You should throw in a good bottle of wodka and buy some pickles!!!!

We are going over to District field for the JAAFL Playoffs. They are giving out the scholar athlete awards at halftime so my son has to be there to get his award. . . .

[LiveFromUkraine]

"Now I do agree with you(Kuna) regarding the Indian slur.  That is uncalled for and disgusts me.  I hate to be associated with anyone who would make that comment including fellow Americans.  I am quite shocked at Billy knowing his ethnic background.  I guess he doesn't mind the slurs against him and his family if he has choosen to do the same."

Sounds to me Thomas you don't want to be associated with me anymore since I made "that" racist comment.  

Thomas, I didn't have anything against what you said in the other thread. I didn't even address it there. I just assumed you believe what Kuna said without verifying. I was perplexed when you said in this thread "I didn't see what you said Billy so I couldn't comment.". You did comment and now you admit to seeing what was said.

I don't have anything against Kuna and William for their style of debating ridiculing others to get their point across.  They do enough harm to themselves and I don't need to retaliate the same way. But the latest incident was over the top and with those kinds of comments, they'll get the attention they want.

P.S. I am in a good mood. USCIS website said they just sent out my k-1 approval notice.

First Billy, CONGRATS man.  That is awesome news. 

Now, there seems to be a lot of miscommunication going on between us.  So lets try to clear this up.

When I said I didn't see the thread, I was talking about the initial thread where you said the Indian comment.  Not the one where Kuna called you a racist.  I would have been incredibly shocked if you said racist slurs.  Especially since you have been on the other side of the coin.  If you meant that in a racist way than yes I wouldn't want anything to do with you.  Since you didn't I will now pack my stuff and move in with you.   

I don't really believe anyone on this forum because it is just the internet.   


Thomas

[mspanky]

I've yet to meet a guy complaining about ONLY FAT women being interested in him be handsome  and in shape. Usually, you look at the guy and sort of can figure out why he attracts the bottom of the barrel.

 The sad thing about djfourmonie is he lives in Los Angeles. A town full of beautiful women of all ethnicities. There is a large influx of RW there. Latinas,Filipinas. But the only ones he can attract are fat out of shape girls. You attract what you are. Like does really go to like.

  Even when I meet hot women who complain about the losers they attract. It's not hard to figure out why they are attracting losers after a few minutes with them. Quality folks attract quality folks.

[I/O]

mspanky: Good post...!!! A handful of Russian women will consider a cross racial marraige, but for the most part a freak in a freak show would be considered more normal. We simply have another case of "You guys who have been there and done that" haven't a clue because I am an exception and will prove you wrong............blah blah. I farted in the queens presence and got away with it. So effing what? Might make me an exception to the norm but it doesn't make me exceptional nor does it make me right in the bigger picture.

If our Afro mate can "Pull" so many "Broads" may I ask WTF he is doing here? Me thinks sumpin else is bein' pulled.

I/O

[acrzybear]

I farted in the queens presence and got away with it. So effing what? Might make me an exception to the norm but it doesn't make me exceptional nor does it make me right in the bigger picture.I/O

Did you just call DJ4$ a queen? And that you farted in her presence?   

  I just finished watching the cowboys (8-1 baybeee!) whup on NY

[djfourmonie]

DJ for Money, this is the simple observation those of us with experience in the fsu have been trying to communicate to you.  And it's very true.

Then why did you self-title yourself as the following in your very first post? 

 I never said it wouldn't be hard and never said it came easy to me.

 I actually wanted to say African-American (I hate using that!) and I have said that all over the internet several times.

 

[Serebro]

Serebro-
Good that you separate these two qualities.

I am assuming by education, you mean formal education such as a university.

A formal education is no guarantee of intelligence. (considered throwing in GWB here .. but naww too easy.. Yale should be proud.! )

Intelligent people can educate their selves without a university. They might not become a doctor or a lawyer, but can certainly be successful, interesting people, who you would not know did not attend a university. (I have also met people with degrees who can't find Europe on a map)

Not that there isn't value to the educational system, I just don't use it as guide for choosing who to have a relationship with.

I agree.
It's your right, but I use it as a guide and I have reasons to.
If you 'd had online relationships with foreign men you 'd have probably considered to be one of the main criteria though.
the main problem is that every 60 yo American considers himself to be very intelligent and having a degree in psychology based on 3 divorces with his previous wives and all his life experience, last summer he saw a girl from Romania in a supermarket and now he thinks that 20 yo girls from FSU is what he really needs in life...because Romania is somewhere in the Eastern Europe and it means that it's in the FSU.
When you answer "no" he asks if this is his being Catholic Christian that I didn't like as people normally avoid him when he starts telling them about his religion point of view and his love for gays in the past.

so I would prefer someone who at least knows where my country is and its name, too.
(one day when I was trying to send a letter to Russia a 50 yo woman from the post office declared that I should have written some other name as after 1991 Russia didn't exist anymore.She tried to persuade me for 5 minutes before I asked for the manager...)
 

[Serebro]

I agree.
It's your right, but I use it as a guide and I have reasons to.
If you 'd had online relationships with foreign men you 'd have probably considered to be one of the main criteria though.
the main problem is that every 60 yo American considers himself to be very intelligent and having a degree in psychology based on 3 divorces with his previous wives and all his life experience, last summer he saw a girl from Romania in a supermarket and now he thinks that a 20 yo girl from FSU is what he really needs in life...because Romania is somewhere in the Eastern Europe and it means that it's in the FSU.
When your answer is "no" he asks if this is his being Catholic Christian that I didn't like as people normally avoid him when he starts telling them about his religious point of view and his love for gays in the past.

so I would prefer someone who at least knows where my country is and its name, too.
(one day when I was trying to send a letter to Russia a 50 yo woman from the post office declared that I should have written some other name as after 1991 Russia didn't exist anymore.She tried to persuade me for 5 minutes before I asked for the manager...)
 
From my experience most people in the USA for example need to have a degree to know that

[Jumper]

DJ-

IMHO the Latinas that tend to like me, I don't like them. Most of them are OVERWEIGHT. I see better looking Black women on TV than I do in real life and since you don't know where I have been, you can't say I haven't seen most of them because in reality I HAVE. Let's just say when it comes to Black women I get EXTREMELY PICKY and there not enough of them to be like that, oh well.

Hey, You have every right to be EXTREEMLY  picky..
but so does every woman,, wether FSU or AW..

Are you young, handsome ,athletic and in tip top shape?

while women value many attributes,

all things being equal..
these are often just as much on thier list ,, as they are on yours?

live by the sword, die by it,,but no need to  complian of limited choices..
your own criteria works against you equally from the other side unless you are brad pitt or will smith

Just where is it you meet people when your not in school anymore???

 I don't do church

 I don't take the dog to the dog park

 I don't cruise Venice Beach

 I don't go down to 3rd Street anymore

 I don't go to City Walk

 I barely go to local clubs unless I am DJ'ing (been there done that)

 Where I work there is one seriously ugly cashier and its Simi Valley were I have never had any measurable amount of success.

 As I said in another post, I have certain things working against me and being from California doesn't qualify you as being an expert on Women from Los Angeles.

well mostly you list that you DONT do a lot of things..

that seems to be something working against you..
half the battle to overcome am obstical  is to recognize it..


if you had THAT lenght of list ,of the things you DO..
odds are you would have found someone, or be very interesting to someone..

There are certainly plenty of interesting things to do..in SoCal

Let me look at it from the perspective that many of the White American women that date black men on a regular basis, chances are they have some baby daddy drama. The FEW that are left are college educated and I am beneath them.

and again you limit your criteria,, yet complian your choices are limited..

its your choice !! dont be surprised if you limit avalibilty of women interested in you.


i never set out to marry a black, asian,white ,or latino woman, or a RW..
but IF i limited my scope to a certain type of women , or nationality-
 i would expect folks to tell me that yes indeed.. my chances of success are also limited.

anyway - the more impiortant point is you seem to think that spending a few thousand is way to much chedder for this.

if you really believe you can meet ,and more importantly get to know someone,
 well enough to marry them..(and them you)
with the cost of airfare and travel..
let alone the cost of filing and immigration fees..
costs in relocation..
from a place half way around the world,,for less than a few thousand

you seriously need to get a bit more realistic.

and what if she's an 8 or 9,with a child (which you actually consider)
the costs go up a bit.

 staying with friends,, getting the best rates on airfare..
all these things can help you some..
but really in the overall picture how much?

it is a costly thing to date and get to know someone around an ocean,, or to travel and relocate yourself or your intended spouse.

bottom line is
, you have stated very many reasons why you have limited luck at home.
partly by your own choices?

but you havnt listed much of what you have to offer a woman here ,
or from there?

if you are trying to overcome some odds,
it helps if that list is pretty decent.


why do you state are you beneath a college educated woman?

thats not a knock..
its a real important question..as MOST RW are college graduates and value higher education.Its impoirtant on many of thier lists,..
(much like the things on your own list of criteria -younger, attractive..no kids)

I do not hold a degree, and that is/was a hurdle in dating RW.
as it is FAR more important to an average RW than it is to a AW..
the culture is different.Here, success without a degree is far far  easier than it is there.so a social stigma of sorts if you do not have one.

 I do not write well , and do not enjoy correspondence, ,another hurdle if you are going to attempt this.

like a lot of things, these things can be overcome,,
but its a good idea to recognize them and know what you have to offer as a individual  to overcome them.. 

[djfourmonie]

 Just thought I would return to the thread I started.

 To reply to the last quote replied too -

 How many College Educated women ASSUME automatically that since you didn't go to school you must not be informed or smart? Ask my buddy with the Engineering Degree from GT if I'm stupid...

 But AW generally assume that, put that in their profiles and expect only those with sheepskins to contact them. I don't contact them, I think its a complete waste of time. The only women with degrees that would speak to me and don't care are past their "Due Date" physically. That's not to say there some good looking women in their 40's, but that's few and far between, even in Los Angeles.

 Looking at returning to Ukraine around Sept or Oct of this year with a long range plan of spending 3-6 months in Europe in 2009 to focus not only on the FSU but Scandinavia. I feel I have to be at ground zero for any Scandinavian pursuits and to cut down on the expense of traveling from the Western US to Eastern Europe.

 Thus far I have increased my "combat" profile and added another web site.

 Currently I use -
 
 Lucky Lovers (hasn't been so "lucky" since I visited success the first time out)

 Elena's Model (Sliver membership until I find somebody work talking too and upgrading)

 *Just Added:

 City of Brides - Gold Membership, have already been contacted not sure if its scam or not yet, but we shall see.