Ask me, I've done it! and have been married for 3 years happily!

[Makkin]

Hey Ed,

  I've got a perceptive feeling that your a "good Joe" and things will always become clear with you.
  It seems you have sincere interest for the people you work with as well as many other attributes that show in a positive manner.
  You will always have those who don't agree and god bless em for freedom of thought and choice because without opinion for and against it makes everything soooo..boring indeed.
  My opinion is that you help people and thats good for everyone involved usually..Thanks.

Makkin

[Eduard]

Hey Ed,

  I've got a perceptive feeling that your a "good Joe" and things will always become clear with you.
  It seems you have sincere interest for the people you work with as well as many other attributes that show in a positive manner.
  You will always have those who don't agree and god bless em for freedom of thought and choice because without opinion for and against it makes everything soooo..boring indeed.
  My opinion is that you help people and thats good for everyone involved usually..Thanks.

Makkin

Thank you for your kind words!

[SANDRO43]

It's interesting how the words I used - "system" and "method" bring out negative emotions in American men.

How about "approach" ?

As an example of how words can become 'loaded' with meaning under some unforeseen circumstances, let me relate again a little story from my past.

Some 35+ years ago, I was in charge of editing the internal newsletters produced by 3 Int.'l Mktg. Centres located with IBM Italy. This involved enjoyable quarterly visits to our European HQ in downtown Paris (Faubourg de la rue de S.te Honoré, same block as Hermés's, happily emails were not available then), where I would confer with an EHQ attorney and watch him proofread my drafts for possible legal exposures (at the time, a major lawsuit based on the Sherman's Act had been initiated against us by Ted Kennedy, plus a host of other actions by companies joining the bandwagon had followed).

Our corporate mantra at the time was "We don't sell HW, we don't sell SW, we sell solutions to our customers' problems !", therefore our newsletters were choke-full with "solution/s" in every possible shade and flavour.

On one such visit, I saw my attorney friend slashing my drafts furiously. I was nonplussed, since with each visit I had learnt what was considered safe to write and what not, and used my acquired knowledge in all subsequent drafts.

"Henri" I asked "what the hell is the matter now ?"

He explained that we had been brought to court by some pissed-off Californian customer, who had produced one of our brochures (full of "solutions", of course ) as damaging evidence for our NOT having solved HIS problems. He was awarded 1 M$ as damages by the court, and henceforth the word "solution" was banned from any of our publications (until R. Reagan became President and told HIS Secretary of Justice to stop USA vs. IBM, which had been dragging along for the previous 10 years or so ). We therefore had to resort to hazy, less dangerous circumlocutions like "an approach to addressing our customers' stated needs".

So, be careful of what you lay down in writing for the public, some client of yours (from California, maybe ) might use it against you in court .

[I/O]

Hi Dan,
I've worked with Ed since about March this year, and I've traveled with him to Moscow this summer to meet some Ladies. Next week I'm flying to Egypt for a week to meet "One" of theses Ladies again. I've browsed this thread, longggggggg, I see there is a lot of different views, to the same issue. This was my first time doing any think like this and I definitely class me self lucky, I got a lot of help from Ed, teanslating etc, and sotring out the scammers from the real honest Girls, and a lot of other stuff, that needs to happen to make all this work cos I can imagime how bad it could have all gone!. I've traveled around most of Europe, US, some middle east, and India, so I pretty good a looking after myself and being in "foreign  lands", but I do not think there is any way I could have traveled to FSR, and got all the I did get completed with out the help of someone like Ed. I be happy to answer question about what happened and how. But apart the fact the I had a "blast: there, I believe, I may have hit "mission complet" (stay tuned!)
Regards
SPunch

With spelling like that, he is sure gunna need someone to hold his hand for a long time.

I/O

[SANDRO43]

With spelling like that, he is sure gunna need someone to hold his hand for a long time.

I/O, you're making me think that I should start offering spelling advise advice for a consideration, gunna make a fortune here .

[Scuba Don]

With spelling like that, he is sure gunna need someone to hold his hand for a long time.

I/O

gunna?  How quaint.

Spelling does not matter on an Internet discussion board.  Good manners do, so I will forgive your spelling/grammar.

[SANDRO43]

Spelling does not matter on an Internet discussion board.

Odd notion, where did you get it from ?

Good manners do

Quite, so wouldn't you agree that NOT having people struggle through difficultly-comprehensible text is a form of courtesy ?

[Shadow]

Eduard, I find it extremely interesting that you seem to be evasive on some subjects.
In case you are wondering why I keep persisting, understand that in my opinion there are clients for every service. I am sure that there are men whom without your help would be lost and end up either completely disappointed or scammed. However I am also for complete honesty and transparency of a service, and that includes the probable investment.
A personal and time consuming service as yours can not be cheap, as you are (sorry for dropping the word) a business man. You need to be paid for your work, and you will work to be paid. That this work includes the gratification of making people happy is a great bonus.

A happy client does not need to be asked if he found your service beneficial, after all that is why he is a happy client. If Spunch is as up front as you tell him to be, he will also answer the questions that are off the beaten path straight.

I hope that you will find more happy clients who will benefit from your service.

[Eduard]

Eduard, I find it extremely interesting that you seem to be evasive on some subjects.

can you be more specific? I'll try to clarify

[I/O]

I/O, you're making me think that I should start offering spelling advise advice for a consideration, gunna make a fortune here .

Sandro: You seem to do that quite often, and well, I might add. I do think your linguistic expertise has value in this area. As for those who get their tits in a tangle over a deliberate linguistic nuance. Let them spend a few weeks with a couple of Russian women in their homes and...................................they will either develop a sense of humour or die.

I/O

[SANDRO43]

As for those who get their tits in a tangle over a deliberate linguistic nuance. Let them spend a few weeks with a couple of Russian women in their homes and...................................they will either develop a sense of humour or die.

Well, scuba divers are called subacquei in Italian or, sometimes and not totally affectionately, subnormali .

[spunch]

Eduard, I find it extremely interesting that you seem to be evasive on some subjects.
In case you are wondering why I keep persisting, understand that in my opinion there are clients for every service. I am sure that there are men whom without your help would be lost and end up either completely disappointed or scammed. However I am also for complete honesty and transparency of a service, and that includes the probable investment.
A personal and time consuming service as yours can not be cheap, as you are (sorry for dropping the word) a business man. You need to be paid for your work, and you will work to be paid. That this work includes the gratification of making people happy is a great bonus.

A happy client does not need to be asked if he found your service beneficial, after all that is why he is a happy client. If Spunch is as up front as you tell him to be, he will also answer the questions that are off the beaten path straight.

I hope that you will find more happy clients who will benefit from your service.

Hi Shadow,
Sorry about delay getting back to you about your cost questions. The trip to Moscow, I took this summer with Ed was a bit expensive, but the cost was mostly the city of Moscow! The flights cost about a grand and a half each, the accommodation was expensive, but Ed managed to get is an awful lot cheaper that I could on-line, even though I spent a long time researching it on line and by phone, and even did it a few months in advance. I couldn't believe the price of hotels and restaurants and general living in Moscow. The few grand I gave Ed for his time, paid for it self, just on the saving from the hotel/accomadation he organized. I decide to go to good Restaurants, expensive! but by my choice. I paid for my Date, my self and sometimes Ed, which I was glad to do so.  Again, I paid for the daily "entertainment"  which was all fun!
So, in short, yes it was a bit "price'ie", but that on how one looks at it, its all relative to you what you think expensive is. If thats how much it cost me to meet and get a beautiful Lady over here, then so be it! And if I ever had to do this over, which I really really hope I wont have to  I would do the exact same thing again.
As I said before I have absolutely no problem whats so ever recomendoing Ed's service, system or "thing" (if I were doing a "thing" like this, I'd be charging a lot more, for sure!!)
I hope this have helped with your questions, if not please let me know and I reply ASAP, but, "I am" off to Egypt to meet this Beauty on Firday for five nights and five sunny days >>:->
Regards
Spunch

[I/O]

if I ever had to do this over, which I really really hope I wont have to  I would do the exact same thing again.

Without suggesting anyone should throw the baby out with the bathwater, is it just me or does someone else see the ridiculousness of this statement?

BTW spunch I suggest you learn to use the spell checker, all those visa documents are going to get awfully tough with the current level.

I/O

[Shadow]

Hi Shadow,
Sorry about delay getting back to you about your cost questions. The trip to Moscow, I took this summer with Ed was a bit expensive, but the cost was mostly the city of Moscow! The flights cost about a grand and a half each, the accommodation was expensive, but Ed managed to get is an awful lot cheaper that I could on-line, even though I spent a long time researching it on line and by phone, and even did it a few months in advance. I couldn't believe the price of hotels and restaurants and general living in Moscow. The few grand I gave Ed for his time, paid for it self, just on the saving from the hotel/accomadation he organized. I decide to go to good Restaurants, expensive! but by my choice. I paid for my Date, my self and sometimes Ed, which I was glad to do so.  Again, I paid for the daily "entertainment"  which was all fun!
So, in short, yes it was a bit "price'ie", but that on how one looks at it, its all relative to you what you think expensive is. If thats how much it cost me to meet and get a beautiful Lady over here, then so be it! And if I ever had to do this over, which I really really hope I wont have to  I would do the exact same thing again.
As I said before I have absolutely no problem whats so ever recomendoing Ed's service, system or "thing" (if I were doing a "thing" like this, I'd be charging a lot more, for sure!!)
I hope this have helped with your questions, if not please let me know and I reply ASAP, but, "I am" off to Egypt to meet this Beauty on Firday for five nights and five sunny days >>:->
Regards
Spunch

Hi Spunch, I wish you a great time in Egypt, and hope that all works out well for you.
Regarding the 'bit expensive' I have asked not a valuated opinion but an estimate on how much you spent on the service. My estimate would be between 8k and 10k.
Moscow is not cheap, however I have managed to stay in 4 star hotels below $150 a night. That however is due to my search and planning capabilities. Having a training for one of the international hotel and flight reservation system has taught me some tricks.

[Eduard]

Hi Shadow,
I'll try to make things more clear for you in regard to my pricing.
I charge $1,500 a week to go to Russia with a client + he pays my expences.
SPunch and I went in August so it was the most expensive time to go in regard to the air tickets.
I'm going to Russia in 10 days with a client and it's 1/3 less for the tickets.
So all included: my fee, air tickets, food, entertainment Spunch spent around 5K to have me accompany him which I (and all my clients including SPunch feel is well worth it)
Worth noting is also that when Spunch was getting hotel quotes, the cheapest quote was for $250 per person. And that's not at the greatest hotel as far as I remember.
I was able to find us a very nice 2 room apartment 20 minutes away from the center of Moscow, where we both stayed for only $75 per person. This constitutes $350 per night savings. We were there for 2 weeks so his total savings on accomodations were $4,200 which pretty much paid for my fee and air ticket. I can't stress enough how important it is to have someone like myself who is fluent in both Russian and English languages helping you for the first few days of getting to know your lady. Even if she has a reasonable grasp of english language, there is too much room for terrible missunderstandings that may lead to a break up of a budding relationship.
Women actually feel more comfortable to have me there at least on the first couple of dates. Due to my personality I also make things lighter and more fun during the first somewhat uncomfortable hours of meeting and geting to know each other. There is a lot more to this but it would take hours to type!
Once again, it's optional and completely up to a client to have me travel with him to Russia. My main service is searching for women outside the usual "agency circuit" and helping my clients and their girls with translation/interpretation to get to know each other with no language barrier. I actuall would much rather stay in Florida this january in 80 degree weather than travel to possibly a -15 or lower centigrate weather in Russia...!!!

[Shadow]

Eduard, I guess that as you explained my estimate for SPunch on his total expenses for your service is correct.
As fas as savings, sorry but I never believe in saving money that you do not pay. I only believe in getting good value for what you pay.
My experience in finding hotel deals comes from my education in the travel agency branche, there for I understand that it may not be for everyone to find it. However a $75 per night 3 star hotel is not really hard to find (could book you one now).
As far as if you offer value for money, it is up to your clients and potential clients to make up their mind. I have done well without any help from interpreters or guides, others my feel more comfortable with one.
Regarding the stay in Florida, I could find replacement for you so you can stay at home and your client would still have an interpreter...more than enough people in Moscow able and willing to do the job. 

[SANDRO43]

Out of curiosity Eduard, is your service your only personal source of revenue (no need to be specific, yes/no will suffice) ?

[Eduard]

My experience in finding hotel deals comes from my education in the travel agency branche, there for I understand that it may not be for everyone to find it. However a $75 per night 3 star hotel is not really hard to find (could book you one now).

maybe you can educate all of us how to find good hotel accomodations in Moscow for $75 a night! There is only one half way decent hotel - izmaylovo that has that kind of price. But when I tryed to make reservations it was a nightmare. I wound up just renting a nice apartment instead for the same price, and a lot closer to the center.
But if you do know, why not share it with all of us???

[Eduard]

As far as if you offer value for money, it is up to your clients and potential clients to make up their mind. I have done well without any help from interpreters or guides, others my feel more comfortable with one.
Regarding the stay in Florida, I could find replacement for you so you can stay at home and your client would still have an interpreter...more than enough people in Moscow able and willing to do the job. 

My clients trust me not only with translations, but also my expertise on cultural differences, being able to read Russian women like only someone who was born and raised in Russia could and advise my clients on the level of women's interest and sincerity. My clients also appreciate the level of fluency of American English that I posess. Yes there are many translators in Russia who speak pretty decent english (for someone who hasn't spent a day  in the US or UK), and that's enough for some people, others prefer to be able to communicate in more depth and also recieve my advice.
Apperantly you prefer not to use any translators at all. I can understand getting away with no interpretor when you are not looking for a serious relationship or marriage. Then it really doesn't matter. But if you are looking for a wife, somebody you want to bring back home and make a serious emotional and financial commitment to, I'm sorry, but not being able to freely communicate with your potential life partner, just doesn't make any sense to me.
Can you tell us what stage of searching for a RW are you in? Are you married? Engaged? Single and still looking? Or maybe you aren't even looking for a wife and just go there to have a good time? It'd be great to get a clarification from you.
Thanks,
Ed

[LiveFromUkraine]

My clients trust me not only with translations, but also my expertise on cultural differences, being able to read Russian women like only someone who was born and raised in Russia could and advise my clients on the level of women's interest and sincerity. My clients also appreciate the level of fluency in American English that I posess. Yes there are many translators in Russia who speak pretty decent english, and that's enough for some people, others prefer to be able to communicate in more depth and also recieve my advice.
Apperantly you prefer not to use any translators at all. I can understand getting away with no interpretor when you are not looking for a serious relationship and marriage. Then it really doesn't matter. But if you are looking for a wife, somebody you want to bring back home and make a serious emotional and financial commitment to, I'm sorry, but not being able to freely communicate with your potential life partner, just doesn't make any sense to me.
Can you tell us what stage of searching for a RW are you in? Are you married? Engaged? Single and still looking? Or maybe you aren't even looking for a wife and just go there to have a good time? It'd be great to get a clarification from you.
Thanks,
Ed

Ed, you are not the only person who is happily married here.  A lot of us didn't need to bring their nanny over with them to meet their wives.  You can find out more about Shadow by doing some searches on this forum.  I do suggest you tone down your insults like "just going there to have a good time." 

Somehow, a lot of us were able to communicate with our life long partners without paying additional thousands of dollars to a "babysitter".

I doubt the things you have said in this thread.  I doubt your quotes of success rates, especially when they can't speak the same language before they get married.  I also seriously doubt that a customer of yours just randonly found this site at the same time you started posting and left positive feedback about your service.  A little too coincidental if you ask me.  You seem a little too hard up for business with your constant advertisements on this board to be as successful as you state.

 

Thomas

[William3rd]

Thomas, I agree with you. . . .

I am getting the feel of a used car lot around these threads.

Shamelessly shilling. It is tiresome.

Ed, you would be much better served by giving some insights that others find profound rather than turning off many of the people that post or read here.

FWIW. . . . .

[Eduard]

Ed, you are not the only person who is happily married here.  A lot of us didn't need to bring their nanny over with them to meet their wives.  You can find out more about Shadow by doing some searches on this forum.  I do suggest you tone down your insults like "just going there to have a good time." 

Is it that cold in Ukraine??? How is it that asking weather a person is looking for a wife or he just goes there to have a good time (and many WM do) an isult??? It's a legitimate question, trying to get to know a person.

Somehow, a lot of us were able to communicate with our life long partners without paying additional thousands of dollars to a "babysitter".

First I'd liketo know who is "a lot of us"? If you happened to find, get to know and marry a RW or UW all by yourself, more power to you! Or maybe you were just lucky? who really knows? I looked at your profile and there's absolutely no info. Are you married? How many years? If you are married, how were you able to communicate with your fiance at the time and know that she was the one?
Now about my customer - Spunch:
No it was not a coinsidence at all. I helped him find and get to know a few girls, we traveled to Russia together to meet them, and now I'm still helping him with some things, namely when he wants to call his fiance we do a 3-way call and I translate for them in real time. His fiance by the way speaks and understands pretty good english. They exchang SMS and email messages all the time, but talking on the phone is a bit difficult and when he wants to make sure that there is no missunderstanding he asks for my help. I told him about this board and that there were a couple of people questioning the validity of my service and even my integrity. So he said that he'd check it out. So obviously he did, and wrote whatever he felt like writing. His honest opinion and his experience of working with me.
I think that for most people a testimony from a satisfied client would be a positive thing. But you just see some devious plot.
Yes I belive that my service can be very beneficial to anyone who set out on a journey to find and marry a RW. I'm not saying that my way is the only way though. I personally know a couple of local guys who did this on their own and were successful. These guys still spent a lot more money on multible trips to spend time with their girls than they would have spent on my service. Since these girls spoke pretty good english they could communicate, but since the comunication was still limited it was very wise of them to go and see their girl several times in Russia before doing the K-1. How much will you spend making, say 5 or 7 trips? A lot more than you will spend on my service...
So you will spend the money one way or the other, and if you don't you are trully playing the "Russian roulette"
I said that I know a couple of guys who were succesful on their own...but i also know 6 American guys here locally who like you did this on their own...guess what...they are all divorced...one even passed away from a heart attack after his beautiful Ukrainian "model-like" wife from Krivoy Rog divorced him. I knew him well actually, and he was a good guy. She on the other hand was a typical gold digger that I would have my clients steer away from.
I met him when he was already married to her so there was nothing I could do...But he told me that he found her through an agency, took a trip to Ukraine, fell in love with her beauty (and she is gorgeous! what a body!!! she actually models here in FL now) and married her...

I doubt the things you have said in this thread.  I doubt your quotes of success rates, especially when they can't speak the same language before they get married. 

LOL, you basically just confirmed what I've been saying all alone, that the success rate with the language barrier standing in the way can not be that great! That's a big part of my service - removing the language barrier so that a couple can really get to know each other.
I think that most people who decided to do this on their own without an enterpretor will agree that even you find a girl who speaks decent english (and also you happen to be attracted to her) it is still going to be a pretty limited communication and many things about you and her personality will get lost in translation.

[LiveFromUkraine]

LOL, you basically just confirmed what I've been saying all alone, that the success rate with the language barrier standing in the way can not be that great! That's a big part of my service - removing the language barrier so that a couple can really get to know each other.

You are doing nothing but selling here which does make me look at what you say as questionable.  I don't even know if Spunich is a customer or a friend you asked to post.  Stranger things have happened on these types of boards. 

When do you plan on contributing to this forum?

Let me correct your statement for you Ed.  You don't remove the language barrier unless you teach the woman English or teach the man Russian.  Until then, there will always be a language barrier.  It took my wife 2 years to learn English where she is pretty close to being fluent.  I wouldn't date a woman I couldn't communicate with.  In fact, I didn't come here looking for a wife but became friends with her online.  We both were not looking for a partner at that time, especially one from another country.

DISCLAIMER:  Since we are man and woman, even speaking the same language sometimes means we still need a translator. 

I would prefer as much face time as possible which is why I lived with my wife for about 7 months before we got married.  I would think people should be making multiple trips to get to know their lady friends.  If it is a money or time issue than they probably shouldn't be doing this type of thing.




Thomas

[Daveman]

 :brightidea:  :brightidea:   :brightidea:   :brightidea:

Ed, read this:

Ed, you would be much better served by giving some insights that others find profound rather than turning off many of the people that post or read here.

FWIW. . . . .

And then take a close look at this:

Ed, you would be much better served by giving some insights that others find profound rather than turning off many of the people that post or read here.

FWIW. . . . .

When you understand those, try this one:

Ed, you would be much better served by giving some insights that others find profound rather than turning off many of the people that post or read here.

FWIW. . . . .

And then Study this one a bit:

Ed, you would be much better served by giving some insights that others find profound rather than turning off many of the people that post or read here.

FWIW. . . . .

Another idea is

Ed, you would be much better served by giving some insights that others find profound rather than turning off many of the people that post or read here.

FWIW. . . . .

Maybe that would end your feelings of being attacked?

 :noidea:

Dan said it a few posts back.. but for the hell of it, let's try it a different way.  Get away from this thread for a while... take that Russian approach of "past is the past", move on and don't look back.

Go to your profile area and add a signature which describes your service with a link to your website/contact information. That way it still be subtly and politely visible in every post you make... so you don't have to say it so often... THEN... just participate in the forum.. Let people get to know a bit about Eduard - tell stories, anecdotes, give your observations but don't always mention the service in your posts.  If people find you interesting and credible, you'll receive inquiries about your services. Win/win...  If you come across as a noisy banner ad, your credibility suffers.

Dave

[Eduard]

I have contributed on a few issues. I would be doing a lot more contributing if a couple of people here wouldn't continously question my honesty and integrity. I'm beginning to think that they might have an agenda or a business interest that would benefit from putting me and my service down. Might that be the case?

Sandro, to answer your question about half of my income comes from a couple of other sources. I also offer a DJ/live music service and provide entertainment for many Local Russian parties here in SW Florida. This is how I know many people in the Russian community here, AM and RW couples, who is still together and who is divorced. So besides all other unique perspectives like being born and raised in Russia, then spending half of my life in the USA, then after divorcing my American wife of 15 years finding, bringing over here and marrying my Russian wife 3 years ago
I also have this perspective on how many of these marriages where men "did it on their own with no one babysitting them" last beyond the "getting a permanent green card" stage...and the numbers are not very incurraging!