RW what do you think of this guy??

[Doll]

Gentlemen simply don't do such things.  Further evidence that John was no gentleman.  Does any RW really think that behavior is ok?

COME ON KIDS! John was being filmed day by day- almost every minute. Is was just the talk between two buddies , John was tired and had too much bear.
listen to men when they are loaded and tired.
Ed asked provocative questions , this "guilt" is on him.
 And yes- in general his behavior was OK considering Ed's "supervision"

[mspanky]

COME ON KIDS! John was being filmed day by day- almost every minute. Is was just the talk between two buddies , John was tired and had too much bear.
listen to men when they are loaded and tired.
Ed asked provocative questions , this "guilt" is on him.
 And yes- in general his behavior was OK considering Ed's "supervision"

  Well Ed, as the agency owner and Russian to boot certainly did little to bring respect to the women in his country. His video seems to imply there is a lot of beautiful candy to men to enjoy. Getting laid is easy. "Look even John did it. He also seemed to imply the choice of women were John's. As though John could end up with any of them. John was a little more realistic in that department.

   But it did seem he was catering to the quality of men that can't get laid in a whorehouse. Therefore they were eager to believe in Russia it was all possible. What were you thinking Ed? I guess you could not leave the "sex" part out of the video as you knew it was a lure for the sorry men you are trying to attract. A gentlemen should never kiss and tell. Especially on such a public video where the poor girl has no clue you are ruining her reputation in order to make a few dollars.

[Misha]

This thread is still going on

All I can say is that if you look at this film you will understand that John is a prince compared to some of the men looking for RW  (This is the film Dan referred to in another thread.)

Sure, the film is in Russian, but trust me you don't need to know Russian to understand the quality of some of the men being depicted in this Russian documentary 

[Admin]

  Well Ed, as the agency owner and Russian to boot certainly did little to bring respect to the women in his country. His video seems to imply there is a lot of beautiful candy to men to enjoy. Getting laid is easy. "Look even John did it. He also seemed to imply the choice of women were John's. As though John could end up with any of them. John was a little more realistic in that department.

   But it did seem he was catering to the quality of men that can't get laid in a whorehouse. Therefore they were eager to believe in Russia it was all possible. What were you thinking Ed? I guess you could not leave the "sex" part out of the video as you knew it was a lure for the sorry men you are trying to attract. A gentlemen should never kiss and tell. Especially on such a public video where the poor girl has no clue you are ruining her reputation in order to make a few dollars.

FWIW - I rather doubt Ed set out to intentionally malign anyone. I suspect he just blithely went about the business of promoting himself giving little (or no) thought to the consequences/feelings of others. I consider it a clumsy and unprofessional approach to marketing himself and his services.

That would be completely consistent with the behaviors we saw on display here at RWD. No malice, per se, just incredibly stubborn and self-serving behavior that ignored all manner of presented fact or feeling, other than his own.

BC has written on several occasions that a really aggressive plaintiff's attorney would probably have a heyday with the mis-steps made by some of the people we have seen appear here at RWD in pursuit of a buck.

FWIW

- Dan

[Eduard]

 It is warm here already and men wear these shorts and shirts everywhere.
It is comfortable and kinda in style  They don't bother to provide a better impression because the personality is what that counts.
Guys you need to see my husband (to-be) when he first came to meet me in Moscow! For me he looked trashy  and he was an IT director of a big company! Old snickers, old shorts, old T-shirts. So what? He was just a bachelor on vacations who didn't care a lot how he looked. Good education, very good money, nice personality - this is what is important.

LOL, Doll, you just described John's resume! Except he is not a "typical American" Can't you guys tell by his accent that he is obviously Irish? Actually other than being a very busy IT director for a large company, making a 6 figure income, he is one of the nicest people I've met. He is a fighting Irish, and also he is a sweetheart on the inside with a heart of gold who will make his wife the happiest woman in the world and treat her like his little princess. Yes he likes the casual dress style, he swears a lot (He tells me that's a normal thing in Ireland, that's just the way they talk) but the bottom line is that he is a generous, good hearted, well intended man who will make a girl very happy. I would take that over some well dressed, slick, selfish, cheap, lying, self-absorbed person any day...

[I/O]

I'll return in a couple of hours to read page 40.

I/O

[Catman]

Nice to see you back Eduard

[Eduard]

Nice to see you back Eduard

Thank you Catman! After reading some of the comments here I can't honestly say that it's good to be back, but hey you learn to develop thick skin dealing with some individuals
why are some of the people picking on John? I saw some reasonable posts coming from I/O, Zmejka and a couple of others...but some people's nasty attacks are just weard IMO...it's like get a life already! Don't people have something better to do than pick on someone they don't know?

[ScottinCrimea]

Eduard,  Good to have you back.  I know there was a lot discussed regarding John but I think what struck most people was that his dress was considered way too casual for a first date and especially a first date in Russia.  No matter how great he might be once you get to know him, if first impressions are bad, you may never get to that level.  I personally feel that you should have perhaps given him more guidance in this area.

[Jet]

Actually other than being a very busy IT director for a large company, making a 6 figure income, he is one of the nicest people I've met. He is a fighting Irish, and also he is a sweetheart on the inside with a heart of gold who will make his wife the happiest woman in the world and treat her like his little princess.
the bottom line is that he is a generous, good hearted, well intended man who will make a girl very happy. I would take that over some well dressed, slick, selfish, cheap, lying, self-absorbed person any day...

Some very complimentary talk, and I think any woman would be happy to have the man you describe (in the quote) by her side, BUT how would any of us ever know that if you hadn't told us? These traits were certainly not highlighted in the video, so how does the average viewer find out what a great guy is behind the foul mouthed schlock showcased on YouTube?

[Eduard]

Eduard,  Good to have you back.  I know there was a lot discussed regarding John but I think what struck most people was that his dress was considered way too casual for a first date and especially a first date in Russia.  No matter how great he might be once you get to know him, if first impressions are bad, you may never get to that level.  I personally feel that you should have perhaps given him more guidance in this area.

Thank you Scott.
My feeling is that a person should be himself and present himself (or herself) the way they are, so that the other person can get to know the real you and not some front that you put up just to impress someone.
It's just my opinion, but I prefer people who are open, honest and upfront.

[Eduard]

Some very complimentary talk, and I think any woman would be happy to have the man you describe (in the quote) by her side, BUT how would any of us ever know that if you hadn't told us? These traits were certainly not highlighted in the video, so how does the average viewer find out what a great guy is behind the foul mouthed schlock showcased on YouTube?

Many people who posted here, didn't see him the way you did. Doll actually commented that he reminds her of her own husband in some ways...So it's all a matter of perception IMO.

[Simoni]

the foul mouthed schlock showcased on YouTube?

Jim, I learned a long time ago not to judge a man by the language he uses.

Back in my college days, I worked construction summers and Christmas break to pay my tuition.  I'll never forget the fowl mouthed foreman in Maine and how shocked I was at his language. 

But this guy had a heart of gold and would do anything for me, and did.  For that I will always be thankful, and because of him I learned not to judge people by the language they use.

[ScottinCrimea]

Thank you Scott.
My feeling is that a person should be himself and present himself (or herself) the way they are, so that the other person can get to know the real you and not some front that you put up just to impress someone.
It's just my opinion, but I prefer people who are open, honest and upfront.

Eduard,  I dress differently for church, for a business meeting, for doing yard work and just for sitting around the home, yet I am the same person.  These are not a "front' just to impress someone, but dressing appropriately for the occasion based on the respect I have for the person or situation.  How you dress shows the level of respect for the person or situation and if I dress the same for a first date as I would for a trip to the hardware store it shows that I feel the same about both.

[Jet]

I'll never forget the fowl mouthed foreman in Maine and how shocked I was at his language. 

But this guy had a heart of gold and would do anything for me, and did.  For that I will always be thankful, and because of him I learned not to judge people by the language they use.

Hey, I use the same language on the jobsite, it goes with the territory, but I don't use it around ladies I know, and certainly wouldn't around ladies I don't. This is mostly for the same reason Scott doesn't wear cut-off jeans and grubby T-shirts to business meetings. I find I can be myself and show others respect at the same time. We had a meeting w/ INS this afternoon, I could have saved an hour by heading straight there in jeans and work boots and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference to the officer we were there to meet, nor would it have impacted the outcome of the meeting - I stopped at home and changed anyway.

Many people who posted here, didn't see him the way you did. Doll actually commented that he reminds her of her own husband in some ways...So it's all a matter of perception IMO.

I'll accept that, but you're probably going to have to accept that some folks who watch your video are not going to come away with the perception that this John fellow is the "Mr. Wonderful" you later described to us.  :noidea:

[Simoni]

We had a meeting w/ INS this afternoon...

How did it go?  Good, I pray.  Hopefully this nightmare will end soon...

[Eduard]

Scott and Jet,
You feel that you dress more appropriately for an occasion than John. that's fine.
But why are you so eager to judge and criticise? I found that people put somebody down because it makes them feel better about themselves. I hope that's not the reason here? He is a good, honest, well educated, very smart man with integrity and a good heart. Why can't we look at the positive instead of acting like a bunch of school kids?

[Ooooops]

Eduard, now that you are here may be you can tell - did you get a written permission of those ladies to be used in your Internet ad? 

[msmoby_ru]

LOL, Doll, you just described John's resume! Except he is not a "typical American" Can't you guys tell by his accent that he is obviously Irish? He is a fighting Irish....

....er, Hello Doll ? It's gone VERY quiet.. Weren't you telling us Eduard said he was American ?!

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[msmoby_ru]

he is a sweetheart on the inside with a heart of gold who will make his wife the happiest woman in the world and treat her like his little princess.

Hi Eduard,

As you like honest, straight forward people ( and I'm sure you described John's true character above) then WHY the HELL did you make a video that shows him up to be a clueless Irishman on a "sex tour"?

It doesn't do him, you, the Irish ( ) or FSU women any favours, either...sorry 



Eduard, I think that the type of service you offer could be greatly beneficial..but it could be better executed and portrayed.

 the bottom line is that he is a generous, good hearted, well intended man who will make a girl very happy. I would take that over some well dressed, slick, selfish, cheap, lying, self-absorbed person any day...

So most important question that remains unanswered is: Did John make a connection - under your guidance that has resulted in a relationship?

[Eduard]

Hi Eduard,

As you like honest, straight forward people ( and I'm sure you described John's true character above) then WHY the HELL did you make a video that shows him up to be a clueless Irishman on a "sex tour"?

It doesn't do him, you, the Irish ( ) or FSU women any favours, either...sorry 

And which part of the video are you referring to? I don't see anywhere that he looks clueless or that he is on a sex tour. He is very well travelled, smart and far from clueless IMO and if you care to quote the "clueless part" I'd love to hear!
The man never used a swear word in front of any woman, he only uses that type of language in a private conversation with me. He was never drunk as suggested by someone here. He had a couple of cold bears at night after running around Moscow all day in +31C heat with no airconditioning anywhere. Tired, not drunk!

As far as sex, that's another thing that some people here just ASS UMED. When he said "we had fun, fun, fun" after the 3d date with Maria some people here automatically thought - sex, which wasn't the case. They had a "romantic moment" they kissed, they hugged. Does that make him a "sex tourist"? Not in my book. He communicated with these women for several months, got to know them very well, so he wasn't meeting strangers. When they finaly met they needed to feel weather they had chemistry together or not. And a kiss can tell a lot sometimes...reading some of these comments I have a feeling people didn't even bother to watch the video and are jumping on the bandwagon for the opportunity to pound on someone...sad to see this mob mentality and people always assuming the worst...
I didn't even really want to come back here because it seems like there are a few people that just enjoy attacking and beating somebody down rather than having a mature discussion. I guess it makes them feel better about themselves. But I'm not going to play that game. I said my peace. I'm done with this thread.

[Ronnie]

I would take that over some well dressed, slick, selfish, cheap, lying, self-absorbed person any day...

Obviously, you're not a woman, then Ed.
Haven't you heard the expression, "nice guys finish last"?

[Ronnie]

As far as sex, that's another thing that some people here just ASS UMED. When he said "we had fun, fun, fun" after the 3d date with Maria some people here automatically thought - sex, which wasn't the case. They had a "romantic moment" they kissed, they hugged. Does that make him a "sex tourist"? Not in my book. He communicated with these women for several months, got to know them very well, so he wasn't meeting strangers. When they finaly met they needed to feel weather they had chemistry together or not. And a kiss can tell a lot sometimes...reading some of these comments I have a feeling people didn't even bother to watch the video and are jumping on the bandwagon for the opportunity to pound on someone...sad to see this mob mentality and people always assuming the worst...
I didn't even really want to come back here because it seems like there are a few people that just enjoy attacking and beating somebody down rather than having a mature discussion. I guess it makes them feel better about themselves. But I'm not going to play that game. I said my peace. I'm done with this thread.

Ed, Some one started this thread with the question "What do you think of this guy?" with a link to your site and video.  We invested time watching the tape and rendered our opinions as we were asked to do.

The discussion heated up when someone commented he was a typical American.  That bothered me at two levels..first, to anyone with anything but a tin ear, he was not American; second, he was not typical on any one.

I said as a promotional video for marketing purposes it was a dud in my book.  I personally would look at John and say if that's the kind of misfit who seeks a foreign bride, maybe I don't want any part of it.  He was so not me.

Scott was right to point out to you that being oneself does not excuse being socially indifferent.  Dressing proper for the occassion is just part of socially acceptable behavior just as refraining from belching and other marks of ill breeding.

You're right about one thing" he never swore in front of his dates.  But if he swear in front of you and with the camera rolling, how long can he keep from swearing in mixed company?

You're wrong about assuming they had sex.  It was clear Maria wanted no part of John and would be mortified to see him make innuendos that leave one thinking he had sex while not actually saying it which would be a lie and crass.  No less crass is any effort to leave that impression, unless it was you who were trying to make it appear that way with your questions about "religious experience" etc.

I would hope John would read these criticisms and take them to heart.  They are nothing if not objective and brutally honest.  If he is as you say, he would be driving up the value of his stock tremendously with a little polishing.

And Ed, your introduction about you not having any luck with American women is not where the majority of us have been or are coming from.  You would do well to drop that approach for the same reason stated above.

[msmoby_ru]

And which part of the video are you referring to? I don't see anywhere that he looks clueless or that he is on a sex tour. He is very well travelled, smart and far from clueless IMO and if you care to quote the "clueless part" I'd love to hear!

Eduard, it seems that perhaps you don't REALLY like people who are straight and honest with you, after all?

I see no reason to doubt what you say about John's character / travels / experience and he says this near the END of the video, but you portrayed him in a poor light... and as you can see I'm not the only one saying it. John himself also says he'd be lost in Moscow without a good guide ( clueless?) but I'm asking did you line up a guy with such a background, with the right women?

We've tried to give you constructive criticism and *I* note you failed to answer the most important question re John's "success / failure" as a result of your guidance...

Does that make him a "sex tourist"? Not in my book. He communicated with these women for several months, got to know them very well, so he wasn't meeting strangers.

Well, then *I* apologise.. for what you correctly say is an assumption - without the ASS

BUT..

You don't make it clear on your video that they weren't strangers, and it looks( to me) that they are "strangers" when they meet...

I didn't even really want to come back here because it seems like there are a few people that just enjoy attacking and beating somebody down rather than having a mature discussion.

Sorry mate, that's not a mature reaction to constructive critique and as far as I'm concerned, I said your business model is sound, but if this is supposed to promote your biz, I'm rather feel it will have the opposite effect.

I hope you will take that on board.. remember, again - you like "Straight and honest -you just got it

[Doll]

Actually other than being a very busy IT director for a large company, making a 6 figure income, he is one of the nicest people I've met.

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