"Trustworthy" Agencies?

[Jack]

Umm.. Your missing the "full text" of said email, since your only trying to disseminate the parts that suit you..   

WHAT??

Eric Jones, I have sent exactly what is listed but here we go, you tell me what else I need to send you to prove YOU sent me your e-mail on July 4th 2006 at 8:08am




Ok, I click on File at the top of your e-mail.

Then I click on properties.  If I need to click on anything else let me know and I will be happy to.

Once I click on properties I see a link for General and a link for Details.

On the General link it shows

re:Russianwomendiscussion PM

"Eric Jones"  ecr844@yahoo.com

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Sent:  7/4/2006  8:08AM

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When I click onto properties I get the folowing below, EXACTLY as below,..



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Their is another link the bottom of this properties titled Message Source.

When I click on it I get the following below.  EXACTLY as you see.




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Jack,
   
    I post on RWD as ECR844, here's my e-mail address as requested. Thanks,
  Eric

   
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Now Eric, is their anything else I can send you to show you HOW I got your e-mail and how easy it is for you to tell wittle fib's?

[ecr844]

Just curious, "Jack," do I have your express permission to post the applicable PM's outlining the whole "truth," as you put it? I' just want to be gentlemanly and be sure your ok, with the group knowing what you did or didn't do.
Thanks,
ECR844

[Jack]

Just curious, "Jack," do I have your express permission to post the applicable PM's outlining the whole "truth," as you put it? I' just want to be gentlemanly and be sure your ok, with the group knowing what you did or didn't do.
Thanks,
ECR844

Why No Eric, you don't have my permission to post PM's.  You stated that I spammed you from you being on a discussion board, it was the only way I could get your e-mail. YOU were wrong, you have been proven wrong.

[ecr844]

How convenient. Apparently you have me mistaken for someone you can bully. Unfortunately for you, that's not the case.
Here is where you first solicited me on the open board:
 

whoaaaa, $3800 a month for a flat?  In Voronezh!!!!

Eric, something is not right here. How about $350 to $400 a month to be in the center of Voronezh and $175 to $250 away from the center.

Eric I don't know anything about your SO or your situation but I think you have a reason to be concerned.  It's a wonderful idea for you to live there and be close to her for a few months, and after reading what you wrote, you had better spend some time with this woman.

I say you have to by-pass your SO and the agency. Wrote me a PM if you are going to go thru with this and we'll get you a good flat in the center.

Aren't the archives fun "Jack,"? Two can use them to tell the truth you know.

Additionally, I did reply to you via PM,(as you requested see above, and in my naivete thinking you were a decent guy looking to help out..) and then later a 3-line email which contained my email address(as posted above). Which by the way is no secret so you didn't do any harm to me by showing the email header either. My identity and email address aren't a secret. So there were no earth shattering revelations there as I have nothing to hide. You made an offer to help a guy presumeably out of the kindness of your heart, and then go on to spam him 2-3 years later to promote your commercial interests....INTERESTING...

Moving on..are you stuttering and spouting ..."BUT...BUT..BUT.." yet "Jack,"? Is your blood pressure up? Are you feeling abit hypertensive at your tender age?... Relax, I would hate for you to stroke out on us..Back to the FACTS!


     After you solicited those PM's and a one line email, I never being a client, or having solicited your services, now on a regular basis receive spam from you highlighting the "available" women and tours you offer. So one has to ask themselves, why would they be getting this unsolicited SPAM? Where might they have gotten the idea a "known to be in a relationship" committed guy would be a prospective client and or looking to utilize your services? Where? An email which YOU ASKED FOR? A couple of PM's where you offer assistance nearly 3 years ago? Your obviously less astute than you like to give yourself credit for. Matter of fact, could this be part of the reason you have no wish for those PM's to be posted?

Once again,

THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMM....

THANKS FOR PLAYING PLEASE DON'T TRY AGAIN...

[CCowboy]

Jack, you're right.  It doesn't matter if it's AFA, Elena's Models, Cindy Agency, Anastasia, Army of Brides, and even the Angelika Network, plus many, many more.  They all have lots of outdated profiles and photos.  At least with Angelika Network it is possible to find out when the profile was put on the site.  Among the agencies, it's accepted practice to maintain old profiles and old photos.  There are also a host of other problems.  It just proves that the agency business is a dirty business.  They all say that everyone else does the same thing to justify having outdated profiles, but it does nothing to clean it up.  I believe Kevin when he says he takes steps to have women's profiles up to date.  However, that isn't true for the agencies on his "honest agency" group...at least the ones I checked out.  With groups like RWD, men are becoming better educated.  Times are changing.  If agencies don't clean up their acts, they'll be out of business soon.  Bad business practices eventually catches up with all businesses.  Robert  

[Jack]

 Robert, I agree with everything you have just written.


 Eric Jones, you posted on this board and another Russian discussion board that I spammed you after getting your e-mail address from the discussion board and what a low thing to do, but were wrong, you were incorrect.  I got your e-mail address from YOU.

 Funny how you try to change the subject and topic when you are shown, and PROVEN, as you are often, to be mistaken.

[GreginGa]

I dont know Jack. I've spoken to him by email on several occasions about my sister-in-law several years ago. I've never received any spam from him. Eric if you were receiving spam and didnt want it did you ever ask him to stop? Jack is in the business and is helpful to many. I wouldnt know him if he walked in the room. I'm just saying that is much bigger things for me to worry about like whether to do Yalta or the Carpathian Mountains.

[ecr844]

"Jack," You must really subscribe to the school of thought that if you utter a statement enough even if false it becomes true..

Your words reveal at least that much if not more..You did get my email from here, as well as from me. It's listed in my profile..and then a second time from your solicitation..The land of delusion and SEROQUEL isn't treating you all that kindly after all now is it?

[Jack]

gee Eric, if I got your e-mail from here, why would I have to PM you and ask you to send it to me. duhhhhh

Even when proven wrong, you have a hard time admitting it. hummmmm, makes one wonder about you eric.

[Admin]

I dont know Jack. I've spoken to him by email on several occasions about my sister-in-law several years ago. I've never received any spam from him. Eric if you were receiving spam and didnt want it did you ever ask him to stop? Jack is in the business and is helpful to many. I wouldnt know him if he walked in the room. I'm just saying that is much bigger things for me to worry about like whether to do Yalta or the Carpathian Mountains.

Greg,

Yalta - as part of a broader excursion into Crimea is absolutely beautiful.

Then again, Karpaty (Yaremche) and the Hutsul architecture is not to be missed.

Tough choice - but one that you cannot 'lose'. Time of the year for your plans will weigh heavily on your decision.

ECR844 - couple of things:

* I agree with Greg about asking Jack to remove your email. I suspect he would be agreeable to removing your email from any mailing lists - and then, at least, there is no future problem.
* If you wish for me to 'clean up' the posts and remove your name, just let me know - post here or send a PM, whichever you prefer.

- Dan

[ecr844]

"Dan,"

I did ask and even clicked the If you don't want to recieve these email links included in the e-mail.

[Admin]

"Dan,"

I did ask and even clicked the If you don't want to recieve these email links included in the e-mail.

ECR,

As you know, Jack is something of a 'controversial' figure and attracts his fair share of criticism. I cannot recall him being accused of sending spam previously - which is NOT to dismiss your claims - only that I imagine if Jack did this on any large scale, we would probably have heard a lot about it.

Maybe the most productive thing to do now is to make absolutely certain Jack knows that you do not want to receive any further emails, and ask him for confirmation that your email is removed.

FWIW

- Dan

[ecr844]

*edited to add:

Oh, look at that. I can post again. I kept getting these pesky 403-404 and you don't have permission to post error messages when I tried to reply to "Jack's" last post. Pesky forum bugs. It could easily lead one to wonder if their posting permissions had been modified. The timing was impeccable if that were the case. But I digress, perhas it was just one of thsoe random SMF bugs that soemtimes happens...No worries, it's all working fine now.


    See here's the thing. I had witnessed the bullying tactics which Mr Bragg likes to use here and elsewhere for some time. I have been a memebr here for quite awhile. After a period of time one gets to see what some of the posters personalities are like. Imagine my surprise when I hadn't been posting here and about three years go by when I start receiving these messages with themes that match "Jack's" photos which he enjoys posting. At that point any reasonable person would wonder where this e-mail came from? Why now?

"Jack," is all to happy to proclaim that this came from an approx three word e-mail I sent him in 2006 (at his request). Interestingly enough, boys and girls; I never recieved any of these SPAM emails in 2006 or 2007. Now suddenly in 2008 I start getting regular notices from him about his tours, etc.. Now that leaves one to wonder. If this is the perhaps one of the only forums (that I am aware of) where we are both active together and where my email is freely visable, what might be ones reasonable conclusion? I can tell you my first guess wouldn't be a 2-3 year old 3 line email. It would be right here, on this forum where he is a long term active member and or perhaps moderator, etc.. (though I can't rememebr for sure. I might be wrong on that) whereby this information would be readily accessible if that were the case.

So after a few years one may indeed wonder whether said email address is indeed valid. How could a proprietor easily verify this? Look through members profiles. Frankly, it's a basic logic chain. You are all smart folks which would you consider first? Now top all of that off with being called a liar. Well, that's just not polite, now is it? That is part of what irked my ire. I'm not here to be intimidated or pushed around by someone who thinks he can do whatever he chooses. I've always said I'll stand up for myself and I'm going to do that. If I make a mistake, I'm a reasonable guy. I'll own it. I'll even apologize. But expect the same in return.

[ecr844]

ECR,

As you know, Jack is something of a 'controversial' figure and attracts his fair share of criticism. I cannot recall him being accused of sending spam previously - which is NOT to dismiss your claims - only that I imagine if Jack did this on any large scale, we would probably have heard a lot about it.

Maybe the most productive thing to do now is to make absolutely certain Jack knows that you do not want to receive any further emails, and ask him for confirmation that your email is removed.

FWIW

- Dan

I'd be happy to post his header and IP info if you'd like from one of the messages. I'd hope I haven't garnered a reputation for jumping to hasty conclusions and making wild accusations.. I can back up what I say.

Here is the error message:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /Forum/index.php on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


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Apache/1.3.41 Server at www.russianwomendiscussion.com Port 80

and Mr Jack Braggs Header:

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Hello Eric,

[Admin]

*edited to add:

Oh, look at that. I can post again. I kept getting these pesky 403-404 and you don't have permission to post error messages when I tried to reply to "Jack's" last post. Pesky forum bugs. It could easily lead one to wonder if their posting permissions had been modified. The timing was impeccable if that were the case. But I digress, perhas it was just one of thsoe random SMF bugs that soemtimes happens...No worries, it's all working fine now.

ECR,

Addressing ONLY this part of your message (quoted).

Your assumption that any errors you received are due to any action on my part is just that - an assumption - and, for the record, an unfounded assumption.

I have not touched your profile or your posting privileges - and so long as things remain civil, I will not.

How about you get the chip off your shoulder and post productively.

- Dan

[ecr844]

"Dan-Admin,"

    Just to clarify, said "chip" was placed on my shoulder when my integrity was called into question. I am usually civil unless my temper and patience get seriously provoked (I am human and know of more than one instance where others here have been known to lose their temper and become "uncivil"), and all of the potential possibilities were mentioned in my post. Additionally, I posted the copy-paste of the error which when used in conjuction with either a mod log in the SMF software or the error log may help solve any reccuring issues the forum maybe experiencing. The SMF software is well known to have these "bugs". I thought if it were a technical "glitch" it may help you to solve or become aware of it.

On the off chance that there were another reason, well that's been explained by you above. Thanks for the explanation. I'm a relatievly even keeled, laid back guy. Although I do occassionally enjoy spirited civil discourse as do many other posters here. I figured I would start posting here to add a bit of a different perspective to the board and perhaps learn abit more about what the future may hold in this endeavor for me. Additionally it's also nice to get some differing perspectives across different forums and people.

Minds are like parachutes they only function when they are open

I guess I'll just be waiting for the apology which is owed to me.

[Admin]

"Dan-Admin,"

    Just to clarify, said "chip" was placed on my shoulder when my integrity was called into question. I am usually civil unless my temper and patience get seriously provoked (I am human and know of more than one instance where others here have been known to lose their temper and become "uncivil"), and all of the potential possibilities were mentioned in my post. Additionally, I posted the copy-paste of the error which when used in conjuction with either a mod log in the SMF software or the error log may help solve any reccuring issues the forum maybe experiencing. The SMF software is well known to have these "bugs". I thought if it were a technical "glitch" it may help you to solve or become aware of it.

On the off chance that there were another reason, well that's been explained by you above. Thanks for the explanation. I'm a relatievly even keeled, laid back guy. Although I do occassionally enjoy spirited civil discourse as do many other posters here. I figured I would start posting here to add a bit of a different perspective to the board and perhaps learn abit more about what the future may hold in this endeavor for me. Additionally it's also nice to get some differing perspectives across different forums and people.

I guess I'll just be waiting for the apology which is owed to me.

ECR,

There is a huge difference between a 403 (Forbidden) and a 404 (Page Not Found) error. My interpretation of your post was that you were accusing me of diddling with your permissions - and I get sick and tired of baseless and untrue allegations.

When you say your "integrity was called into question" - are you referencing something in my posts to you?

- Dan

[ecr844]

ECR,

There is a huge difference between a 403 (Forbidden) and a 404 (Page Not Found) error. My interpretation of your post was that you were accusing me of diddling with your permissions - and I get sick and tired of baseless and untrue allegations.

When you say your "integrity was called into question" - are you referencing something in my posts to you?

- Dan

"Dan,"

I have been getting both a 403 and a 404 error. Next time I get the 403 I'll post that as well like I did with the 404.

No it wasn't you questioning my integrity, it was "Jack."

[msmoby_ru]

msmoby_ru, and ccowboy, I do what I do because I enjoy this. I enjoy the trips to Ukraine and Russia, I enjoy being able to meet about 100 new men each year and thank goodness I have a telephone company in Dallas and don't have to make any money from my marriage agency.


(oh, and P.S., yea, I enjoy taking the photos, much more so then spending time on the website)

Jack, thanks for replying.

But, methinks you protest too much - you ARE in the biz and your website is your window - it represents you- all the sensible points you make are diluted by your inability to see that your web site being current and accurate is the most important aspect of your business. WHY is that so hard for owners to realise that ?!!

I wonder why you are so found of taking photos of young women in the street - and posting them here - as by your own words - most of them aren't interested in your potential clients

THANKS for responding positively and informing us you intend removing ancient profiles - this will hopefully bring you more respect and biz !

 

[Admin]

*edited to add:

Oh, look at that. I can post again. I kept getting these pesky 403-404 and you don't have permission to post error messages when I tried to reply to "Jack's" last post. Pesky forum bugs. It could easily lead one to wonder if their posting permissions had been modified. The timing was impeccable if that were the case. But I digress, perhas it was just one of thsoe random SMF bugs that soemtimes happens...No worries, it's all working fine now.


    See here's the thing. I had witnessed the bullying tactics which Mr Bragg likes to use here and elsewhere for some time. I have been a memebr here for quite awhile. After a period of time one gets to see what some of the posters personalities are like. Imagine my surprise when I hadn't been posting here and about three years go by when I start receiving these messages with themes that match "Jack's" photos which he enjoys posting. At that point any reasonable person would wonder where this e-mail came from? Why now?

"Jack," is all to happy to proclaim that this came from an approx three word e-mail I sent him in 2006 (at his request). Interestingly enough, boys and girls; I never recieved any of these SPAM emails in 2006 or 2007. Now suddenly in 2008 I start getting regular notices from him about his tours, etc.. Now that leaves one to wonder. If this is the perhaps one of the only forums (that I am aware of) where we are both active together and where my email is freely visable, what might be ones reasonable conclusion? I can tell you my first guess wouldn't be a 2-3 year old 3 line email. It would be right here, on this forum where he is a long term active member and or perhaps moderator, etc.. (though I can't rememebr for sure. I might be wrong on that) whereby this information would be readily accessible if that were the case.

So after a few years one may indeed wonder whether said email address is indeed valid. How could a proprietor easily verify this? Look through members profiles. Frankly, it's a basic logic chain. You are all smart folks which would you consider first? Now top all of that off with being called a liar. Well, that's just not polite, now is it? That is part of what irked my ire. I'm not here to be intimidated or pushed around by someone who thinks he can do whatever he chooses. I've always said I'll stand up for myself and I'm going to do that. If I make a mistake, I'm a reasonable guy. I'll own it. I'll even apologize. But expect the same in return.

ECR,

Couple of comments/questions, now that I've had time to review your concerns more deeply.

>>I had witnessed the bullying tactics which Mr Bragg likes to use here and elsewhere for some time. I have been a memebr here for quite awhile. After a period of time one gets to see what some of the posters personalities are like.<<

People change. Jack included.

>>If this is the perhaps one of the only forums (that I am aware of) where we are both active together and where my email is freely visable, what might be ones reasonable conclusion?<<

Your comment seems to implicate RWD in this matter.

Why do you believe that Jack might have picked up your email address from RWD? What makes you think your email is "freely visible" here?

>>The SMF software is well known to have these "bugs".<<

If you have any specific reference to provide, please do so - here, or in PM, whichever you prefer.

We have been using SMF for quite some time, and while I am far from an expert, I try to keep up with their 'issues' and developments. I am aware of no such "bugs", but if you are, I am interested.

- Dan

[BC]

googling ECR844 turns up a lot of info..

I think I mentioned in the past that googling usernames on just about any forum will produce a lot of matches with email names.

You probably like collecting coins, talking about angina and worrying about flooding, besides RW. 

I won't mention any other 'places' 

I haven't received any spam, but I do keep my address hidden.

Using a forum handle that is the same as your email address is simply, well.. foolish and asking for trouble.. resulting in a situation that is no where near 'proof' necessary to accuse anyone of targeting your email account for spam purposes. 

[msmoby_ru]

googling ECR844 turns up a lot of info..

I think I mentioned in the past that googling usernames on just about any forum will produce a lot of matches with email names.

You probably like collecting coins, talking about angina and worrying about flooding, besides RW. 

I won't mention any other 'places' 

I haven't received any spam, but I do keep my address hidden.

Using a forum handle that is the same as your email address is simply, well.. foolish and asking for trouble.. resulting in a situation that is no where near 'proof' necessary to accuse anyone of targeting your email account for spam purposes. 

BC,

1/ I think you meant "unwise" not foolish - it is foolish if the poster knew it was unwise..

2/ Don't you think you ought to pm him with what you think you had as proof of how you gleaned info ? !

[Admin]

BC,

1/ I think you meant "unwise" not foolish - it is foolish if the poster knew it was unwise..

2/ Don't you think you ought to pm him with what you think you had as proof of how you gleaned info ? !

There is a great deal of what is written that would be better sent in PM. For example, the allegations that emails can be pilfered from RWD. That is simply not based in fact.

Alas, there are MANY different motives in play - and some folks just want/need to air their beefs in public.

- Dan

[BC]

BC,

1/ I think you meant "unwise" not foolish - it is foolish if the poster knew it was unwise..

2/ Don't you think you ought to pm him with what you think you had as proof of how you gleaned info ? !

msmoby,

IIRC this is not the first time this subject has come up (not necessarily here, and talking months ago..). ECR is fully aware of the implications involved.. thus 'foolish' in your definition is probably more accurate.  I also wonder why this subject keeps being brought up in the conspiracy channel.

To your second point, this is something that the general public should be made aware of and may help answer some questions about privacy issues.

Lovely vids btw.

[ecr844]

googling ECR844 turns up a lot of info..

I think I mentioned in the past that googling usernames on just about any forum will produce a lot of matches with email names.

You probably like collecting coins, talking about angina and worrying about flooding, besides RW. 

I won't mention any other 'places' 

I haven't received any spam, but I do keep my address hidden.

Using a forum handle that is the same as your email address is simply, well.. foolish and asking for trouble.. resulting in a situation that is no where near 'proof' necessary to accuse anyone of targeting your email account for spam purposes. 

"BC"

I have nothing to hide, and I also have nothing to do with "flooding". Are you insinuating that "Jack," Googles everyone to get an email he would like to send a SPAM email to? would you like that we all share and post each others personal information on the board in this thread? Others have, I can post some neat Google search info to. It'll be fun, can we all do it?