Cold Feet, Any Clues?

[ECOCKS]

An intelligent person evaluates his situation calmly with all the information available, whether it is buying a home or pursuing RW.

<Chuckles>.....Ambach, I truly hope you marry an FSUW and life takes its turns.

[facetrock]

 Yep your right Ambach. Whether buying a home or pursuing an RW, there really is no difference. That line tells everyone who and what you are.
I like how you always equate everything to a financial situation.
So Ambach she has the prenup. Since this is true love are you feeling more generous with her prenup or is it the same one you always planned on using?
 Let me give you some advice about human nature. If you stay married for five years there is no judge in this country that will let you kick this woman to the curb with nothing while you feel sorry for yourself in your mansion. No how. No way. That my friend is human nature.

[Sculpto]

Ambach,
In todays additions to your thread I don't see where there have been personal attacks.  I do see where people are poking big giant holes in yoru story.

However, the most recent comments you made will certainly invite them.  I wish you luck fending them off as even though I will probably agree with the content of the upcoming deluge I will not pick on you.

You still did not answer my question though, not even close to answering it.  What you have said seems rehearsed, like lines from a movie that went straight to video but nobody rents. 

You are madly in love after a couple of weeks in a hotel.  Come on man, even when I was in college and got my first taste of sweetness with a former cheerleader, a kind of girl who never paid me any attention in high school, I didn't fall for her for over a month of staying up all night.  You are how old?  and you are madly in love after a couple of weeks?  Either you are deluding yourself and your girl is helping you along, or, you make me look like a mature statesman of responsibility.    I say the chances of true love at this stage are in the 1% range.

Lets face it.  You are flashing money to impress the girl and it works.  But that money isn't going to keep her.  If you had something in common with John Holmes you would have a better chance. 

I really don't wish you ill at all.  Please understand that.  But, you are really making me appreciate my difficult and demanding GF even more.  At least she has her feet on the earth and has no other motivation except wanting to be with me.  I don't see how you can ever be sure after what you have done.

[ScottinCrimea]

ambach, it is obvious that you view your primary attraction to a woman as your financial status.  On many levels this is very sad, but you are using what you feel is your best aspect to gain something that you don't see as attainable without it.

It is apparent (at least to me) that what you are offering and what these women are falling in love with is not really you, but your lifestyle.  I dare say that if you had met them in the FSU while staying in a cheap apartment and revealing nothing but the minimum about your supposed wealth, not discussing setting them up in their own business or living a pampered life in a mansion, they would probably not have been so quick to show their affection.  How sure are you that you are not just finding women who can be anything you want them to be for 10 days if they see a payday at the end?

It's all about using the correct bait to catch the fish you want.  You are dangling financial bait while claiming to look for a woman for whom this isn't important.  You think that a few tests you have created, including the prenup, will filter out those who aren't interested in anything but the money.  In reality, it is just selecting those who are the most interested in it and willing to do whatever it takes to get their piece.  The prenup isn't a deterrent. if you knew anything about FSUW women you would know that this is viewed as something to accomodate now and which can be dealt with later, after they have what they want.

  While I wish you well, I don't have high hopes that your approach will bring about the success you seek, but then maybe my idea of a successful outcome is different from your own.

[acrzybear]

No there are all kinds of people looking for RW, most of them can't affortd one.
Among them are people not very astute, some of them bought houses they could not afford, most certainly not all who pursue RW did. The basic concept is the same, some people long for things they can't afford, and are willing to take risks, which may even doom them.

An intelligent person evaluates his situation calmly with all the information available, whether it is buying a home or pursuing RW

 Wow

 I"ve just been called a dumb doomed risk taker  Well dang since I don't have your great wealth and knowledge I guess I'll just go back to the trailer park and see if my cousin is free tonight.


  You definitely come across as arrogant and snobby. 

[facetrock]

  Do you really think you are astute? You meet a girl for ten days and propose marriage. Dont deny it otherwise you would have never sent her the prenup, come on, why else would you send it to her. Three trips to three five star hotels with three FSU women and now you have come to the conclusion that only rich men can accomplish this. Doesnt sound to astute to me.
  Why do I get the feeling you run the same lines past each women. You dont have to work, or you can have your own business, you will have a high standard of living and if you want those things please sign on the dotted line. This is not romance, this is a business deal.
  Do you really think these women are so stupid not to see through what you offer? One thing is for sure. Some women will get a better life. Might take her 3 years with you or maybe 10 but she will get it weather you like it or not.

[Kuna]

If a donkey sounds like "eeee-hawww", I wonder what sound a mule makes???

Ambach,  you sir are a class act. 

You're so intelligent, composed, insightful and successful - your success is inevitable.

Sadly, you don't realise half of life's realities because of your shockingly low emotional intelligence.

Go on...  do me a favour... make the eee-hawww sound just once for us.

 

[ambach123]

This Kuna moron is at it again.

You understand English?

I told you many months ago, I don't ever want  you to post on my thread.

Which part of this does not get through to you?

I do you no favors, I find you despiccable.

You are the lion of internet, in real life, you could not get 10 feet near me or someone like me.

I do just fine, in life and with RW, something you will never know, at least not in this lifetime. I am sure you will do better in the next lifetime.

[Kuna]

This Kuna moron is at it again.

You understand English?

I told you many months ago, I don't ever want  you to post on my thread, you are empty  headed.

Which part of this does not get through to you?

I do you no favors, I find you despiccable.

You are the lion of internet, in real life, you could not get 10 feet near me or someone like me.

I do just fine, in life and with RW, no thanks to you.

On a serious note before we start...  you have neither the right nor authority to tell me what to do in here.  It's a community... varied opinions... shared thoughts... common interests...  collaborative discussions...  I know I know.. lots of big words that fly straight over your head... but hey...  we have to try.


So...  be nice...  You're the newbie here... I'm just trying to help you avoid becoming our permanent comic relief through your continued clown-like insights... You should also try to remember that while you're jerking off to images of your own greatness, I will continue to live a thoroughly contented life with my wonderful wife and beautiful child.  Dream on Bozzo...  Dream on!   

You've got a long way to go ambach... both in your "scheme for a Russian Wife" and in life.  You judge people you know nothing about and that may very well be your greatest weakness.

Here's a hint... 

These women aren't anything like you dream them to be.   They are MUCH smarter than you and if crossed they will become much more ruthless than anyone you've ever met.  If you feel superior to them in any way they will be the ones to adjust your attitude, not me.

You've met 3 RW and proposed to all of them apparently.  Instead of trying to shoehorn a woman you'd never get close to on your own turf into an unfair pre-nup, you might spend a little time actually getting to know the woman a little.

Do you really think they don't know what you are yet???  ... and how long do you think it will take them to sort you out once on American soil.

One was "too religious".  The other shared a powerful experience with you when you took her to a mosque.  I suspect the most recent one will have big excuses wrapping up the new twist that leads to the end of another promising relationship...  Ultiamtely, you may just end up being a sex tourist but maybe that's better than someone like you marrying???

Based on your postings in here, erratic behaviour, idiotic conclusions and wayward insults, I think it's only fair to ask you for an "eee-hawww" every now and then... don't you?

 

[GoodOlBoy]

These women aren't anything like you dream them to be.   They are MUCH smarter than you and if crossed they will become much more ruthless than anyone you've ever met. 

Kuna, you ain't just a-woofin brother.

I have seen this demonstrated several times in the Russian community that I live in.

Russian women can be extremely ruthless when crossed.  :evil:


GOB

[ambach123]

Kuna, I am the first one to admit, that this is a difficult pursuit. Having a long term marriage is very difficult as I see the postings here.

I have enjoyed my journey so far very much, I have had the time of my life. While you and some others feel " bad " for me, how come I feel good about my journey?

I made some points that some RW have already made in another thread right here. They have said the same thing much better than I could ever say. Please read postings from Zhenna.

My third RW, I have very good relationship with, I hope it blossoms further.

I also realize that my risks are very little, hers are far more. I have known lots and lots of women in my life, and most of them I still know them as friends and treated them well, I will certainly treat her well too.

I am comfortable with my situation, a person who has nothing to lose, does not need a prenup, you need it only if you have something to lose. Written contractual agreements are iron clad under American law, I have spent my life working with contracts, unless they have something that is against the law, they are absloutely binding. There is no need to debate that.

Also the rich are different, they know how to protect themselves, that is why they are rich. They are not stupid, otherwise they would not get wherever they are. American business is very competitive, only 1% of the population will be considered well off and they did not get there by winning lottery.

In brief, I have a long road ahead of me, so far, I am glad to know the RW I have known, I hope my third one works out, in any case I have two more vacations planned with her, I am sure a good time would be had by all.

So what is the problem? I must be missing something.

FWIW, she asked me " We can stay at a cheaper place, like a four star resort"; I appreciate her thoughts. Five star resorts are fine with me.

[Ade]

Kuna, I am the first one to admit, that this is a difficult pursuit. Having a long term marriage is very difficult as I see the postings here.

I have enjoyed my journey so far very much, I have had the time of my life. While you and some others feel " bad " for me, how come I feel good about my journey?

You got laid by 3 apparently attractive women, what's not to enjoy, right? And in the process you flashed your wealth and discussed prenups and marriage with all of them. By careful dude, as you're sounding more and more like you're using these as tools to get into their pants before dropping them and that spells, s.e.x t.o.u.r.i.s.t. That'll get you on the antidate wall of fame for sure.

I made some points that some RW have already made in another thread right here. They have said the same thing much better than I could ever say. Please read postings from Zhenna.

I guess you conveniently overlooked the RW that contradicted Zhenna?

My third RW, I have very good relationship with, I hope it blossoms further.

I also realize that my risks are very little, hers are far more. I have known lots and lots of women in my life, and most of them I still know them as friends and treated them well, I will certainly treat her well too.

I am comfortable with my situation, a person who has nothing to lose, does not need a prenup, you need it only if you have something to lose. Written contractual agreements are iron clad under American law, I have spent my life working with contracts, unless they have something that is against the law, they are absloutely binding. There is no need to debate that.

Also the rich are different, they know how to protect themselves, that is why they are rich. They are not stupid, otherwise they would not get wherever they are. American business is very competitive, only 1% of the population will be considered well off and they did not get there by winning lottery.

In brief, I have a long road ahead of me, so far, I am glad to know the RW I have known, I hope my third one works out, in any case I have two more vacations planned with her, I am sure a good time would be had by all.

So what is the problem? I must be missing something.

FWIW, she asked me " We can stay at a cheaper place, like a four star resort"; I appreciate her thoughts. Five star resorts are fine with me.

The more I read your posts and see how they've evolved while you've been here the more I think you're starting to parrot what people are telling you without actually understanding or even agreeing with what they say.

You're a shallow man and I pity you, I really do.

[ambach123]

That is what bugs me, stupid comments.

I do very well; ever look in the mirror, the only person you should pity is the one in the mirror. I have never enjoyed more.

If I am shallow, I like being shallow, what is it to you? Why don't you worry about yourself?

I never had a better experience with a woman than my third RW, and I am no spring chicken.

Like they say in my country, stupidity don't grow on trees.

[KenC]

Ambach,
You wrote:

Written contractual agreements are iron clad under American law, I have spent my life working with contracts, unless they have something that is against the law, they are absloutely binding. There is no need to debate that.

Well, I hate to rain on your parade here, but any prenupt is subject to the interpretation of the divorce judge.  He has the power to accept it as you intended or put his own spin on each and every tennet of the agreement including throwing it out completely or striking the parts he deems unfair to the woman.  It just is not as absolute as you seem to think it is.

Also the rich are different, they know how to protect themselves, that is why they are rich. They are not stupid, otherwise they would not get wherever they are

Just because a person has an exceptional talent in one area that leads them to financial success, does not insure that they know anything about subjects not related to their talent.  "Being rich" might prove that the person is good at something but not necessarily everything.
KenC

[brucen36]

Hey Ambach:

Just a comment.  It's not like only one person is telling you that you are going about it the wrong way.  It seems to be the majority of board members - many of them experienced. Some are saying it more harshly and others more softly.  However, I really haven't seen anyone that wholeheartedly agrees with your methods.  One possibility is that they're all crazy or simply don't understand what it means to be "rich" like you.  Could be...  But isn't it also a possibility (with fairly high probability I might add since so many independent sources are telling you the same thing) that perhaps you are just not "getting it"?  And perhaps you need to change the fundamentals of how you approach the game.

B

[Ade]

Hey Ambach:

Just a comment.  It's not like only one person is telling you that you are going about it the wrong way.  It seems to be the majority of board members - many of them experienced. Some are saying it more harshly and others more softly.  However, I really haven't seen anyone that wholeheartedly agrees with your methods.  One possibility is that they're all crazy or simply don't understand what it means to be "rich" like you.  Could be...  But isn't it also a possibility (with fairly high probability I might add since so many independent sources are telling you the same thing) that perhaps you are just not "getting it"?  And perhaps you need to change the fundamentals of how you approach the game.

B

But Bruce, you don't get it; we are all envious of his "wealth" and "success" of course. Why else would we say these things to him? 

How the hell he managed to make as much money as he claims is beyond me. We have a saying where I come from too; two short planks.

[Gator]

My question to Ambach:  What exactly about this woman is different from the prior two, who you liked but later dumped?

Gator, to answer your question, she treated me very well, with a lot of respect and love, and I did the same to her. We enjoyed each other's company very much.  We had a lot of things in common.

IIRC, you were feeling the same immediately after meeting the prior two.  And it wasn't long before you dropped them.  Somehow, I was hoping that you felt something really different about the third.  

Most men returning from a first meeting are thinking love when it is only limerance.  In your case, it is neither.  I am not sure what you are feeling.  It sounds more like a CEO telling his  staff that he has found a good acquisition candidate.  Do you have a wife vacancy?

Nonetheless, finding RW and marrying one is the easy part making a marriage last is the more difficult part.  

Exactly, and that is why you need to be really careful about the woman you marry.  Your criteria so far are:  she must not be desperate (e. g., she pays for her travel), she enjoys my company and I hers, we seem to have a lot in common, and she says she will sign a prenup.

I have no illusions and I understand that this is a very difficult road.

Hah!  You do have the illusion that a RW will stay with you simply because you are a good business deal.  So you are fishing with the green lure.  It will catch a lot of pink snapper.  Wake up!  Yes, she will marry you and live with you under this arrangement. Meanwhile she is adjusting to her new country, advancing up the job market.   One day she will be financially independent, and....?  If she ain't feeling much, she's gone.  If that is all you want, go ahead.

As Zhenna has said, love is an important ingredient, those with stable relationships have a lot more to offer financially than just love.

Financial stability is not the same as being wealthy.  A RW needs to feel confident about your ability and willingness to take care of her.  Pardon me, but you do not impress me as a RW's definition of a generous man.  A man with far less money than you may be viewed by most RW as better than you.  Remember, there is much more besides financial stability and love such as aligned goals, common values....  

You have more work to do.  Actually, you have progressed fairly far from the Ambach of a year ago.  Yet, that is only because you were such an idiot then in regard to RW.  You still have a long way to go.  Don't file the K-1 yet.  

[ECOCKS]

That is what bugs me, stupid comments.

I do very well; ever look in the mirror, the only person you should pity is the one in the mirror. I have never enjoyed more.

If I am shallow, I like being shallow, what is it to you? Why don't you worry about yourself?

I never had a better experience with a woman than my third RW, and I am no spring chicken.

Like they say in my country, stupidity don't grow on trees.

My BS meter is pinging.

"I do very well..." - Who is he telling?

"..ever look in the mirror, the only person you should pity is the one in the mirror." - Insecure, repetitive in their desire to achieve some sort of parity.

"If I am shallow, I like being shallow,.." - You gotta love this one, here is where the word troll came into my mind.

"..what is it to you? Why don't you worry about yourself?" - Well, if we did we wouldn't be here trying to offer assistance to people honestly trying to establish and sustain relationships with FSUW.

"I never had a better experience with a woman than my third RW, and I am no spring chicken." - Anyone besides me hear boasting and bragging there? Sounds like some of the expats who continually are picking up GF's and then being discarded a week or two later and laughing about it over beers in some pub.

"Like they say in my country, stupidity don't grow on trees." - So it is just innate? What's the point of this statement. sounds like Forrest Gump's aunt talking about her sister's boy.

[acrzybear]

Ecocks

 If an idiot falls overboard you can throw him a life ring, but if he doesn't use it and drowns - oh well, you did everything you could.
At this point in time Ambach really has not offered anything of substance, several people have tried to give him advice and he refuses, just let him drown.

[Mir]

just let him drown.

I bet he will enjoy that as well

[Makkin]

  I swam a half mile one time LITERALLY and met up with a boat that had intercepted a man swimming out too far in Galveston. Since I was a lifeguard it was my responsibility to haul him onto shore or get him on that boat. He was drunk and chose/refused both and in the end he did drown. This makes the statement up-thread very true about throwing a hand in when someone is in peril. If they choose the peril it is in fact a loss caused by themselves.

Makkin

[UTRO]

Of course everyone here is free to write their experiences and ask for advice Ambach.... But what keeps bringing you back here? You seem to know better than anyone else? Are you providing advice, or are you actually taking the advice and criticism handed to you?
Only someone suicidal would continue to jump back into the pool of sharks without listening to the crowd crying STOP!!

[GoodOlBoy]

Hey Utrobina!

Congrats and welcome back! 

I see you did it (got married). How was Jamaica maaaan!! 

You better change you info to "Married 0-2 years". I don't think Svetlana would like the fact that you are still "Looking"


GOB

[UTRO]

Hey Utrobina!

Congrats and welcome back! 

I see you did it (got married). How was Jamaica maaaan!! 

You better change you info to "Married 0-2 years". I don't think Svetlana would like the fact that you are still "Looking"


GOB

LOL! Thanks Rick!
I'll have to tell Svetlana to do the same thing on her Profile too I might have to change my Username too, since Svetlana is no longer an Utrobina but a Baxter!
Jamaica was Amazing... a little stressful in the beginning but things leveled out by the Wedding Day...
After the guests had all left we had a very peaceful and romantic Honeymoon for the second week of stay.
I won't steal this Thread..... I'll write something a little later

Irie Mon! Dave.

[facetrock]

  Utrobina makes a good point Ambach. Why do you keep coming back here? No one agrees with you but yet you continue to return only to get hammered on. When anyone here does not agree with you, you blame it on their ignorance and lower financial status. Then you toss in the personal attack exuse for good measure.
   KenC made a good point. You might have a great business head but you dont know jack about women or relationships. I have met men like you before.
  You say you are no spring chicken. How old are you and how old are the women you are visiting? I will ask but I dont think you will answer.
  And KenC makes another good point about prenups. The judge is the ultimate power. I know some men who had prenups and found out the hard way just how much power a judge does have. The longer you are married the more she gets. Period.
  And finally I have never seen anyone try to convince themselves that they are "just fine" the way you do. I think your really a lonely confused man who is mystfied by women.