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Offline BrianW

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How much should the whole process cost?
« on: April 12, 2009, 02:03:08 PM »
Let's say someone flew from New York and stayed in Kharkov for two weeks. Found someone to marry, proposed, etc.

How much would it cost to bring her back to New York? Thanks.
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 02:42:22 PM »
I would say 100,000 usd. 

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 02:46:54 PM »
SO many assumptions have to be made, but a reasonable starting point counting travel, visas, a couple of repeat visits and such would be around $20,000.
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 07:33:30 PM »
I would say 100,000 usd. 

wow you live large!

but being realistic.. I have made four trips ranging from 9 days to a full month and I am still under 20k

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 07:41:13 PM »
How much would it cost to bring her back to New York? Thanks.

I will assume you know you would not be able to bring her back right away.  I will only add one thing.  The odds of a successful relationship with one trip are fairly low...miniscule...

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 07:45:53 PM »
If I were a "one week wonder", how long would I have to wait for her to come here and how much would it cost?


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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2009, 07:55:21 PM »
If I were a "one week wonder", how long would I have to wait for her to come here and how much would it cost?


Thanks.

You'd wait about 10 months to a year and have invested about $3-5 thousand on a trip (maybe less if you really cut corners),
Her plane ticket to come over here (changing market) so we'll say $2,000 to be safe.

hmm the breakdown
FIrst and only trip, $4,000
Visa, Airfare, $2000
Quickie marriage in Vegas, $200
AOS about $1000
Losing your ass in the divorce -- priceless (and assless!)

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2009, 07:56:35 PM »
If I were a "one week wonder", how long would I have to wait for her to come here and how much would it cost?


Thanks.

I don't know who coined it but, there is a saying that "If you have to ask, you can't afford it".

Brian, doing it on the cheap will only lead to an eventual disaster. By you asking this question would lead us to believe you would like to rush it and make it as cheap as possible. The roadside of this adventure is littered with one-week wonder relationships. Nobody wants to spend more money than needed but the fallacy here is while you are closely watching the pennies you are likely overlooking other more important details for a relationship.

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2009, 08:03:37 PM »
why not just try and get her over here instead of even going over there?

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2009, 08:05:13 PM »
I appreciate your guys advice, but I am only 26 and am not looking to have kids for a long, long time (if ever) so if the relationship lasted a year I would consider that a success for a "one week wonder".

I'm not looking for the "love of my life", to be frank. I'm not cheap but at my age I'm not exactly rolling in dough either and my second goal for going is just to travel, which is one of my hobbies. I've been researching this process for about three years now. Why, at such a young age, don't I like AW? Well, the vast majority my age are either obese, neurotic, psychotic or otherwise defective. My best friend is actually a great AW and she agrees with me completely.

I am planning a Fall 2010 trip and will let you guys know how it goes. This site is great :)
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2009, 08:06:51 PM »
why not just try and get her over here instead of even going over there?


Scultpo,


How would a person go about doing this? Thanks.
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2009, 08:12:53 PM »
Hmmm, want a "blue-light special" gal huh?

And it's okay if she wears out after one year?

Your saga will be one that will provide hours and hours of entertainment and lessons, no matter how it turns out for you. Prepare to become a legendary figure in this world.

Best of luck though!
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2009, 08:16:33 PM »
ECocks,


I can understand your view point. I'm not looking to stay with the same person for the next ten, twenty, thirty years or longer. I'm a good guy though and wouldn't do anything dumb or cruel or unethical.

That's not to say I wouldn't get burned :) But like I said, I love to travel. My life goal is to make it to 100 countries (so far I'm at 7) so if I do fail or get burned at least I will have travelled.
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2009, 08:17:43 PM »
if she is a student you could try work travel program.. pretty good chances with that..

a regular student visa...

if she has a job you could try and get some type of business/proffesional visa...

given your age and I assume she is young also unless she has a rich daddy it is unlikely she can get a tourist visa so that is pretty much out of the question...

I do want to comment on this..

I appreciate your guys advice, but I am only 26 and am not looking to have kids for a long, long time (if ever) so if the relationship lasted a year I would consider that a success for a "one week wonder".

I'm not looking for the "love of my life", to be frank. I'm not cheap but at my age I'm not exactly rolling in dough either and my second goal for going is just to travel, which is one of my hobbies. I've been researching this process for about three years now. Why, at such a young age, don't I like AW? Well, the vast majority my age are either obese, neurotic, psychotic or otherwise defective. My best friend is actually a great AW and she agrees with me completely.


if you feel this way about AW and do not have long term serious plans with your UW you are most likely wasting your time and the time of the girl.  I urge you to reconsider.  

If you do not have a particular girl in mind and are just exploring the possibilities and have a particular interest in FSUW women why not just go ona vacation someplace where lots of FSU people go like DR, Egypt or Turkey and see how much game you really have?


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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2009, 08:19:25 PM »
ECocks,


I can understand your view point. I'm not looking to stay with the same person for the next ten, twenty, thirty years or longer. I'm a good guy though and wouldn't do anything dumb or cruel or unethical.

That's not to say I wouldn't get burned :) But like I said, I love to travel. My life goal is to make it to 100 countries (so far I'm at 7) so if I do fail or get burned at least I will have travelled.

Brian based on this post.. forget what I just said.. just make a trip to Kazantip next summer.. party and have fun.. www.kazantip.com

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2009, 08:21:56 PM »
Brian, what if someone paid for your air and apartment for 8 nights and another $400 in spending money.  In return you get video taped for 24 hours a day and have to meet 8 women in Ukraine.  If you get lucky, that gets video taped as well.  You will have no ownership of the video (s) and it will be sold and /or available to the public?  You could go this year.

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2009, 08:22:39 PM »
Brian based on this post.. forget what I just said.. just make a trip to Kazantip next summer.. party and have fun.. www.kazantip.com


Kazantip? Is that near the Bermuda triangle? ;)
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2009, 08:25:54 PM »
Brian, what if someone paid for your air and apartment for 8 nights and another $400 in spending money.  In return you get video taped for 24 hours a day and have to meet 8 women in Ukraine.  If you get lucky, that gets video taped as well.  You will have no ownership of the video (s) and it will be sold and /or available to the public?  You could go this year.

Isnt Elena doing some reality tv show?

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2009, 08:26:24 PM »
ECocks,


I can understand your view point. I'm not looking to stay with the same person for the next ten, twenty, thirty years or longer. I'm a good guy though and wouldn't do anything dumb or cruel or unethical.

That's not to say I wouldn't get burned :) But like I said, I love to travel. My life goal is to make it to 100 countries (so far I'm at 7) so if I do fail or get burned at least I will have travelled.

Let me be sure I understand you.

You're going to marry her for a year and then wave goodbye to her? Add cost of pre-nup then. Oh and you will pretty much be able to forget ever brining in another foreign spouse or fiance to the states or at least you'll need to solo up to your 40's before trying another one.

If you already have the gal spotted, then find a couple living nearby who have a child and ask them to help you bring her in as an au pair.
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2009, 08:35:40 PM »
I'm not saying I'd ditch her or act like a dirt bag, I'm just saying if we broke up after a year (it seems to be a possibility) then I wouldn't get broken hearted and spend the rest of my life in mourning.

I'd rather have a good one year relationship then write for six months and spend years visiting over and over again. I can also say I would make a great husband, boyfriend or what have you. I don't say that to boast or act egotistical but I have many traits that I know RW are looking for in a WM.
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2009, 08:36:58 PM »
Kievstar, another great export from the USA. Reality TV. Why do I think I would throwup if I watched that show if it gets made.
Brian, what the hell are you thinking of? You going to bring a gal over for a year or two and dump her? The FSU isnt a petshop. These women are not toys or pets to play with.
There are alot of good, normal American girls in their early 20s. They dont get nuts until they get divorced and read to many womens magazines.
If you cant date those girls now you wont do well in the FSU. Save your money and go on a Carnival Cruise

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2009, 08:37:44 PM »
Interesting approach.

Best of luck!
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2009, 08:41:53 PM »
You think you have traits Russian women are looking for? Do you think American women look for the same traits and finally do you know any Russian women that confirm all these wonderful traits?

I repeat. Go on a Carnival Cruise.

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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2009, 08:42:50 PM »
Facetrock,


I'm not saying I'd dump her after a year, I'm just expecting the worst scenario (I always expect the worst so if things work out then I get a pleasant suprise). I just figure things could go sour after a year. I mean, do all RW and WM men have fairy tale endings? I think not.

KievStar,

I wouldn't star in a video and I don't think people would want to see me "get lucky" ;)

And what I said about AW is 100 percent accurate. I want to do a sociological study to get to the root of the cause as to why so many AW's are neurotic. I mean, they were born with all the advantages in the world and are still crazy :) Not all, but most.
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Re: How much should the whole process cost?
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2009, 08:45:38 PM »
You think you have traits Russian women are looking for? Do you think American women look for the same traits and finally do you know any Russian women that confirm all these wonderful traits?

I repeat. Go on a Carnival Cruise.


I think you're getting the wrong impression about me, which is understandable considering what I have posted. I think 90 percent of American women my age are either neurotic, histeronic, obese or overweight or infected with the herpe virus.

And last year I went on a cruise, not carnival though. Carnival is the worst! :)
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