Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far

[Daveman]

(making bushels of popcorn and shashlik, preparing to capitalistically take advantage of the new thread potential!)



Popcorn... Shashlik!.. get your Popcorn here... Shashlik to die for!   Ice cold Beer, Ice cold coke!   

[Mir]

And our 2 fine RWD members feel like they were just plain screwed!

I think the problem is that they were not

[Sculpto]

anyone making odds on whether Asif has the guts to come back and face Mila?

[GoodOlBoy]

...where I’m from in Ukraine defending myself is a matter of pride. Asif, it is your choice, this will be your decision as to what direction this thread takes.
P.S: Robert, I know you are reading this and the same applies to you too.

All right guy's (Az1/CCowboy).......You just got called out and it is time to "man up"!!!!

or.....shut up like a "little b*tch" !!!!

Go ahead.....make her/our day!!!!  :evil:  :evil:


GOB

[Daveman]

anyone making odds on whether Asif has the guts to come back and face Mila?

As interesting as it would be to witness the ensuing melee, I hope his aversion to self defense proves mortal.  At best it would be a he said /she said and would solve very little in terms of enlightening us to what really happened.  It's all about perceptions.  Mila has a great rep and has provided interesting posts around the forum.  Not everyone will be satisfied with her service, and others will sing her praises.  

As much money as I stand to lose on my newly formed Popcornucopia barbecoke brew business.. I vote that it's best to let this one die out and fade into oblivion.  

[Daveman]

All right guy's (Az1/CCowboy)....You just got called out and it is time to "man up"!!!!

or.....shut up like a "little b*tch" !!!!

Go ahead.....make her day!!!!  :evil:  :evil:


GOB

You look differently, GOB, what happened? Oh no!  I see it clearly now.. you've... you've... you've become an Anointed One!    :evil:  :evil:

[facetrock]

   Clever girl this Mila. Asif cant win now and can only be further humiliated. If he says anything bad all his dirty laundry will come under close inspection.

[Sculpto]

Doesn't that depend on how dirty his laundry is?  If its not that bad he will show up.. if its really bad we will never hear from him again.

[GoodOlBoy]

  If he says anything bad all his dirty laundry will come under close inspection.

We love "dirty laundry".  




GOB


Ooooh Az1/CCowboy.....come out, come out, wherever you are!  :evil: :evil:

[Daveman]

And I wouldn't accept that this dirty laundry truly exists anywhere outside the creative mind of Mila, just as I believe the bad service exists primarily within the expectations and perceptions of Az1.  There's just no corroborative evidence to be presented unless she has a video of him makin' it with a local under aged Ukrainian goat covered in whipped cream.. and yes, by all means.. post it!  I need to learn new techniques for the next family reunion in Alabama.

[GoodOlBoy]

....unless she has a video of him makin' it with a local under aged Ukrainian goat covered in whipped cream..

Oh Please....Don't "tease" me Daveman! 


GOB


PS....Don't forget "Slick Willy Clinton".......No Video, BUT......There was that "pesky" stained dress with his DNA.  :evil:

[Az1]

Mila you can say what you like, that is why it's called a discussion forum. All that i said was the truth and if you don't like it that is fine. The truth hurts as they say. This will be my last post here since i said my peace and i do not wish to waste my time arguing with people. As a wise man once said, you cannot reason with the unreasonable.

P.S kievstar if you think boasting about handling a drunk guy makes you tough, it doesn't. If i don't remember you it must be because you were not worth remembering.

[Mir]

If i don't remember you it must be because you were not worth remembering.

I know, he was one the men you paid for

[facetrock]

  AZ1 your true colors are starting to show. Anyone that doesnt agree with you is considered beneath you.

[tim 360]

Mila you can say what you like, that is why it's called a discussion forum. All that i said was the truth and if you don't like it that is fine. The truth hurts as they say. This will be my last post here since i said my peace and i do not wish to waste my time arguing with people. As a wise man once said, you cannot reason with the unreasonable.

P.S kievstar if you think boasting about handling a drunk guy makes you tough, it doesn't. If i don't remember you it must be because you were not worth remembering.

GGEEEEZZZZ.  Just as I got the popcorn going it looks like Asif is pulling a disappearing act.  I bet Mila had video too.  

Kinda makes one wonder about Asif's credibility. Will Robert disappear too?  :selfharm:

[facetrock]

 Well he did give Mila permission to say what she wants. But he was careful not to insult her or discredit her again. It will be her call if she decides to smoke this guy and I get the feeling she could do it very easily.

[kievstar]

Az1 - I never said I handled or fought a drunk guy. I never paid for any harm for this guy either.  Your making up stories again.  Lying must be your speciality.  Read what I wrote.  Do not make assumptions.  I did do something but it involved no physical harm..  and was easier since not a local.

PS, your easy to pissoff.  Just using some psychology on you.

You should not remember me.  But I know men like you.  You go to Ukraine and get a lot of attention than fail in the end.  Make excuses about why you failed instead of realising that you are no Casanova.  Post some pictures of you and your UK girlfirends if I am wrong. I do not want to see lefty and righty.

[GoodOlBoy]

Mila you can say what you like, that is why it's called a discussion forum. All that i said was the truth and if you don't like it that is fine. The truth hurts as they say. This will be my last post here since i said my peace and i do not wish to waste my time arguing with people. As a wise man once said, you cannot reason with the unreasonable.

P.S kievstar if you think boasting about handling a drunk guy makes you tough, it doesn't. If i don't remember you it must be because you were not worth remembering.

Blah, Blah, Blah.....Do us all a favor.

The next time you come to RWD to put the bad mouth one of our member's (Mila),......."grow" a pair first. 


GOB

[JR]

Hello Asif. I've been reading this thread and i was very offended by the lies you've been saying here. I will let this whole matter drop and fade away into the forum. But if you make one more negative comment about me, i'll tell my version of what had happened. I will hold no details back and get very personal, because as far as i am concerned, you have made this thread personal by attacking my character. I will give a chronological event from the time you arrived and from the time you left and I will also include the events that took place with Anna after you got home.
Some of you here might think this is very unprofessional, but where I’m from in Ukraine defending myself is a matter of pride. Asif, it is your choice, this will be your decision as to what direction this thread takes.
P.S: Robert, I know you are reading this and the same applies to you too.

Hmmm, that would be called "Occupational Suicide." Who would use your services after such  blatant disregard for Customer/Client Confidentiality? Even posting first names here is completely unprofessional.

It seems to me the only proper Western Oriented, Customer Service answer to these two posts would be something like this: "Thank you for you input, it is greatly appreciated. Your concerns are noted and we will address them so that these issues do not occur again."

Everyone telling Mila to blast away: You are doing her a disservice. It might be fun to read but it hurts her business. There are many lurking on the sidelines reading this who may be planning trips, and seeing that a "paid professional" is willing to post everything they did and said during their trip is more than enough to keep many from considering using her services.

[I/O]

I'm with JR here. Mila (and her business) looked best silent.

I/O

[facetrock]

You might be right jolly. But Az1 would have kept up the bad mouthing, in fact I think he was getting confident she would not reply. And the more he bad mouthed her while she kept quiet. The more guilty she appears. So what does she have to lose.

 She fired a warning shot in front of his bow, then by saying she would forget the whole thing if he shut his trap, called a cease fire. I really think the fire was getting way to hot for Az1 anyway. I honestly dont think he will have much to say about it anymore.

[JR]

You might be right jolly. But Az1 would have kept up the bad mouthing, in fact I think he was getting confident she would not reply. And the more he bad mouthed her while she kept quiet. The more guilty she appears. So what does she have to lose.

 She fired a warning shot in front of his bow, then by saying she would forget the whole thing if he shut his trap, called a cease fire. I really think the fire was getting way to hot for Az1 anyway. I honestly dont think he will have much to say about it anymore.

It doesn't matter one bit if he ever posts again. (Which he may not and I wouldn't blame him. This should have been in the non-responsive T/R section.) The only possible outcome for Mila after her posting the way she did is to lose business. If she had acknowledged the discrepancies and assured all they would be addressed she would have come out on top. Instead people will read what she is willing to do if they dare take issue with her service and they will take their money elsewhere....

[Sculpto]

Hmmm, that would be called "Occupational Suicide." Who would use your services after such  blatant disregard for Customer/Client Confidentiality? Even posting first names here is completely unprofessional.

It seems to me the only proper Western Oriented, Customer Service answer to these two posts would be something like this: "Thank you for you input, it is greatly appreciated. Your concerns are noted and we will address them so that these issues do not occur again."

Everyone telling Mila to blast away: You are doing her a disservice. It might be fun to read but it hurts her business. There are many lurking on the sidelines reading this who may be planning trips, and seeing that a "paid professional" is willing to post everything they did and said during their trip is more than enough to keep many from considering using her services.

You are right as long as Asif has nothing to hide... I doubt she would have risked the threat if there wasn't some way to back it up.  So, it really comes down to whether or not there is something to hide.. I see nothing wrong with Mila defending herself.  I said I smelled big brown steamaing elephant eggs from the start...

It doesn't matter one bit if he ever posts again. (Which he may not and I wouldn't blame him. This should have been in the non-responsive T/R section.) The only possible outcome for Mila after her posting the way she did is to lose business. If she had acknowledged the discrepancies and assured all they would be addressed she would have come out on top. Instead people will read what she is willing to do if they dare take issue with her service and they will take their money elsewhere....

Actually, she might avoid potentially problematic customers and end up ahead of the game..

[Faux Pas]

Hmmm, that would be called "Occupational Suicide." Who would use your services after such  blatant disregard for Customer/Client Confidentiality? Even posting first names here is completely unprofessional.

It seems to me the only proper Western Oriented, Customer Service answer to these two posts would be something like this: "Thank you for you input, it is greatly appreciated. Your concerns are noted and we will address them so that these issues do not occur again."

Everyone telling Mila to blast away: You are doing her a disservice. It might be fun to read but it hurts her business. There are many lurking on the sidelines reading this who may be planning trips, and seeing that a "paid professional" is willing to post everything they did and said during their trip is more than enough to keep many from considering using her services.

Yeah I think so too. Accusations are only accusations. If Mila betrays the confidence of her customers the number of her customers likely will drastically decline. Mila should answer any points or accusations and leave it at that. She should defend herself. IMO

[GoodBrew]

I waited before I responded to this thread because I wanted to see just how big of a hole Asif dug for himself.  You see, I was in Kharkov at the same time as Asif and knew about some of what was happening with him because Mila was helping me as well.    Now I will freely admit that I have a bias toward Mila.  She introduced me to the future Mrs. GB.  However, there are definitely lies of omission in your story, Asif.  Some of which have already been exposed by others.  I will just say that Mila and her husband went out of their way to look out for your health and safety and made sure that you made your flight home and leave it at that.

GB