Why I want to marry a younger woman...

[Taz]

Kathy Bates (who won at least one Oscar AND subsequently did a naked scene).
Camryn Manheim
Kathy Najimy
Melissa McCarthy
Roseanne Barr
Nikki Blonsky
Jennifer Coolidge
Queen Latifah
Jennifer Hudson
and of course, Kirstie Alley, who even had a series called "Fat Actress".

Very few are pure actresses. Some of them are more about comedy than acting. Now if you compare that to the number of non-obese actresses and correlate that to the ratio of obese women as a percentage of the population, you will see that obese actors and actresses are under represented and even more so in the serious roles (non-comedic). Maybe more people would be accepting of obese people if Hollywood put them in more leading roles. Some of those women like Kirstie say her career decline when she first started to enlarge.

I love the hypocrisy of Hollywood. They make a movie like Shallow Hal but then hire very few obese actors... Good list by the way. Did you have to Google it? I thought of several of them. Roseanne I'd never call an actress. That is a real stretch...

[GQBlues]

Kathy Bates (who won at least one Oscar AND subsequently did a naked scene).
Camryn Manheim
Kathy Najimy
Melissa McCarthy
Roseanne Barr
Nikki Blonsky
Jennifer Coolidge
Queen Latifah
Jennifer Hudson
and of course, Kirstie Alley, who even had a series called "Fat Actress".

I thought Oprah "Sofia" Winfrey in the 'The Color Purple' was HUGE in that movie (no pun intended).  

[Boethius]

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[AramisLux]

one of the things that surprised me about this forum ever since i started using it is how critical, judgmental, and really unhelpful a lot of the comments are. Ooooops and groovlstk are both really good example of this in this thread. i have used other net forums in the past and none of them were anything like this one. sad to say. i can guess why this is but i won't elaborate here for obvious reasons.

there are some really creepy, judgmental people here. even when i intentionally misspell something, someone has to post to call me out on it. this is just weird. why be like that? did i call you out on all of your comma errors, slices, and other punctuation 'challenges'. no. i let you go on making your disjointed little sentences.

for those of you who think i have been vulgar here, let me say that, even if this were true, it might have a lot to do with losing patients with the attitude that some people bring to this place. i just found it almost revolting the way Ooooops was dissing Taz without any kind of appreciation for the insight he is providing here. maybe Ooooops does provide her own insight in other threads. in time, i might find that out for myself. but for now, i just have no respect for her and a lot of other people here.

Daveman,

as for groovsltk, i never have made any comments about whether this neanderthal has had any 'success' with fsuw. that is of no interest to me. if he has seen success, in spite of his lunacy, than more power to him. so what. who gives a crap. it hasn't made him much of a human being, has it? i have made comments about what he posts in this thread. that has been the whole of my concern. he has been really prejudiced and judgmental. who can deny that this flake is given to insane, bombastic statements about things he can not know anything about? he does NOT KNOW ME! but he has a compulsion to make stupid, outrageous statements about me. he doesn't know anything and then he writes like he knows all about me and my activities. he has behaved like a total freak. i know it is really obvious. i am sure others do too. i understand if no one wants to take a stand on it comment on it. that is their choice.

you'll notice a haven't said he and his wife are as ugly as chimpazies. because i don't know. i don't make stupid, judgmental, prejudiced statements about things i know nothing about. does he have the balls to show the same respect? no. and that's really sad.

his behavior is a joke and having a russian/ukrainian wife doesn't make it any less true. i feel sorry for his wife if he has one. probably hell to live with.

[Taz]

Oprah, that is good - I forgot about her. 

No, I didn't google the list.  The "actors" you listed were all comedians as well. 

Kathy Bates, Kathy Najimy, Jennifer Coolidge, Camryn Manheim,and Kirstie Alley are all actresses.  Some have done comedic acting, but they all started as dramatic actresses who were good enough to do comedy (not as comedians who ventured into dramatic roles).

Roseanne is as much an actress as Jack Black is an actor, so that's why I added her.

I'm sure there are others.

That was one of my points, most obese actors are in comedy more so than serious roles. Kirsty I think was best know for the sitcom Cheers. Sure she did some "serious" acting prior to that but nothing made her as well known up to that point as Cheers.

[Ooooops]

Thank you, guys 'n gals, I'm really pleased with what you write about me...   

[Faux Pas]

one of the things that surprised me about this forum ever since i started using it is how critical, judgmental, and really unhelpful a lot of the comments are. Ooooops and groovlstk are both really good example of this in this thread. i have used other net forums in the past and none of them were anything like this one. sad to say. i can guess why this is but i won't elaborate here for obvious reasons.

AramisLux,
One of the treasures of this forum is the fact that the members are free to offer their opinions and that it is not necessary to agree with the other members to do so. Members here can be critical, judgmental and aggressive in presenting their POV. A by-product of this is extremely helpful insight and usually accurate information. This is much unlike other forums. If you are looking for cheerleading and slaps on the back, you have probably come to the wrong place. However, if you seek unbridled and unfettered honesty to your thoughts of all things Russian/Ukrainian women, this is your place. This is only possible by the wide range of diversity of the members. You can get input from all sides and not just the sides you agree with or that agree with you. If you are too thin skinned to take the criticism, you'll likely have a difficult time pursuing a FSUW. FWIW

[GoodOlBoy]

While I appreciate the FSU women that post here, all they say should not be taken as the gospel or they speak for all FSU women.

Yes, the RWD ladies may not represent ALL FSU women, BUT......IMO their thinking (statements) are pretty close to what a newbie can expect when and if he ever goes to visit an FSUW.

Yes, she was a size 6 now get over it. I bought her the clothes myself.

I would NEVER buy clothes for my RW. 


GOB


BTW....Just food for thought, BUT....My wife is a member here on RWD and she has read this thread and many other topics and she pretty much concurs with most (not all) of the thoughts being expressed by the RWD ladies here on this forum.

[SANDRO43]

there are some really creepy, judgmental people here. even when i intentionally misspell something, someone has to post to call me out on it... it might have a lot to do with losing patients...

Are you doing that again, or are you an absent-minded surgeon ?

[Gator]

Aramis,

Where do I begin!  First you take an implicit, perhaps unintended jab at Lily.  Then you attack Oooops explicitly in an unwarranted, tasteless manner.  Now you have angered Blues Fairy.  

This is revealing because these encounters are your only real experience with real RW.  I dismiss your year of communicating with HRB women because that was not real, something you eventually realized yet somehow still defend.

Besides being defensive, somehow the obvious goes over your head.  Worse, you show insensitivity.  This is problematic, not just because RW can have an attitude.  Sensitivity is important to detect the confusing and subtle clues that come when dating in a strange land with a different culture and language.

Then you accuse seasoned RWD members of being judgmental.  And you draw parallels that frankly are silly.

Aramis, you are a neophyte, yet you behave like a gadfly.  Rather than landing on someone and biting, perhaps you should just fly around and ask a question or two when you are confused.  After you make that first trip, you can come back and express what you know about RW.  Until that first trip, you really don’t know $hit.

After your trip, I doubt that you will be making comments such as this recent one of yours:

 the best reason for marrying someone a lot younger is this: any available attractive female over the age of say.....about 23 is very likely a difficult person to deal with. this is why they are still available.

[Turboguy]

Most of us try to cut a RW a little extra slack.   We really value thier opinion but know they can be a little more direct than what we are used to hearing in America.  They grew up in a culture that is different, the sense of humor can be a little different there can be lots of differences.   We can learn a lot by being a little patient and not to quick to take offense.

Having been a member here since virtually the start of RWD I have seen some people really on the recieving end of a lot of crap.   Some may have deserved part but not what they got and some not.   You can be handsome or butt ugly, rich or poor, fat or built like a body builder and have a good shot at success with a RW.  One thing you can not be is insensative and judgemental.  The comments in this thread have been very mild.

I would NEVER buy clothes for my RW. 

I can second that.  If I had to list the problems in my marriage I could sit for hours without being able to think of any but my wife is so selective about what she likes buying her a present is nearly impossible.   She will shop for a half day, try on 50 items of clothes and then put them all back or maybe buy one thing on sale for $ 8.00.  I don't have a problem with that and it sure beats someone who goes out and blows tons of money on a big pile of clothes she never looks at again but trying to by her a gift, particularly clothes for a gift,  is beyond my abilities.

[groovlstk]

he writes about me as through he knows me like a best friend. have you not noticed that? and you don't think that that is a little nuts? this guy knows nothing! he does not know me. he does not know what i want to hear other than what i have stated here. Ok? and you think i owe him something? maybe you should reread his posts carefully. i mean it is really obvious this guy has no clue what he is saying, yet he writes like he knows everything. it is skitzofrenic.

Aramis, no need to get your panties in a bunch, if you don't like what ooops and I post just put us on ignore.

I'll explain this to you simply, since you seem to have missed the point of my original post: your attack on ooops was chickensh#t and foolish. You freely admit to not reading her earlier posts so you have no idea of her history or context here, yet you let fly without a thought. In my book, that makes you not only rude but foolish.

I find it ironic and funny that at the same time you're spitting bile here, you're also defending the honor of the prostitutes on HRB - and yes pal, some of these women ARE prostitutes - do you honestly think they chat with you because of your good looks and charm? RWD is not HRB - people may not tell you what you wish to hear but then again no one has asked you for money here, so it kind of equals out.

[CCowboy]

I am sure that Taz did not mean he physically picked out her clothes, but just paid for them and he knew what she bought.  When my ex-RW came to the U.S. and knew little English, I bought (paid for) her clothes, but she picked them out and was very specific about what she allowed me to "buy" for her.  Again, another case of knit picking the words without understanding what Taz actually meant. 

[SANDRO43]

- and yes pal, some of these women ARE prostitutes -

Three of my Double Dealers were listed on HRB .

IIRC, 3 years ago someone from HRB contacted me about the third one, stating that she had a sister married to an Italian lawyer and hinting about possible legal trouble for listing her. I replied "Sure, go ahead" and never heard from him again .

[Taz]

CC- that would be pretty accurate most of the time. People love to nitpick here. With respect to shopphing God knows how many stores I was dragged into. Endless hours of watching her try on things and providing feedback. Trying not to answer the loaded question of "Do you think my butt looks ... in these pants?" or "Or do you think the "girls" are too obvious in this blouse?" or some other question that if I answered I would have been better of stepping on a landmine. In general you better have a thick skin if you plan on buying clothes without her input. I have been fairly successful there but I don't even bother trying until I have a good understanding of her tastes. This is NOT a good idea for a normal bloke to do unless you happen to have appeared on the "Queer eye for the straight guy" show. Maybe then you'll understand color palettes better. Good knows I've received enough of an education about style and fashion from the RW I've dated to maybe teach a class for AM.

Just keep in mind that IF you physically buy clothes for your RW, you are likely working without a safety net! You better be an experienced professional or a very talented amateur in this area or suffer the consequences. RW don't subscribe to the principle of "it's the thought that counts" in this area. RW may be more tolerant of physical shortcoming than they are of behavioral shortcomings in general.

Although in one area (sure to start another active debate I'm sure) is the area of infidelity. While not a universally common opinion amongst RW, I have known and have had many friends, where the RW said it was permissible (but not necessarily encouraged) to seek sexual "relief" for the male while they were apart. They said they understood how difficult it as for men in this area. Now that I've put lit the fuse on the bomb. I'll step back. I am sure this will get interesting. I know there are members on the board that have been told this as well maybe in a slightly different way.

Just for the record, I've never done this, nor would I ever consider doing it while in a committed relationship. Don't read anything between the lines about not being in a committed relationship either. Fidelity on both sides is important to me in a committed relationship.

[GoodOlBoy]

Yes, she was a size 6 now get over it. I bought her the clothes myself.

I am sure that Taz did not mean he physically picked out her clothes, but just paid for them and he knew what she bought.  

Again, another case of knit picking the words without understanding what Taz actually meant.  

And who are you......... "Houdini" ?  

Can you read my mind right now?  :evil:


GOB

[groovlstk]

Although in one area (sure to start another active debate I'm sure) is the area of infidelity. While not a universally common opinion amongst RW, I have known and have had many friends, where the RW said it was permissible (but not necessarily encouraged) to seek sexual "relief" for the male while they were apart. They said they understood how difficult it as for men in this area. Now that I've put lit the fuse on the bomb. I'll step back. I am sure this will get interesting. I know there are members on the board that have been told this as well maybe in a slightly different way.

There was a really good thread on this about a year ago. I happen to agree w/Taz on this 

[Sculpto]

I am going to agree with the above also.. though for reasons I do not fully understand..

[Gator]

Although in one area (sure to start another active debate I'm sure) is the area of infidelity. While not a universally common opinion amongst RW, I have known and have had many friends, where the RW said it was permissible (but not necessarily encouraged) to seek sexual "relief" for the male while they were apart. They said they understood how difficult it as for men in this area. Now that I've put lit the fuse on the bomb. I'll step back. I am sure this will get interesting. I know there are members on the board that have been told this as well maybe in a slightly different way.

I have encountered this only peripherally.  It is not something that I would ask, nor was it volunteered by the two RW I knew very well.  A couple of other RW said something, yet I considered it as an attitude forcibly sold to RW by RM, not something born of a RW's empathy. 

If I mentioned this to my wife, I think she would say something about using my hand.

[Misha]

A couple of other RW said something, yet I considered it as an attitude forcibly sold to RW by RM, not something born of a RW's empathy. 

If I mentioned this to my wife, I think she would say something about using my hand.

I agree with you here Gator. It might be tolerated by women in Russia because they think they have no choice, but if you were to try it in North America, I would wager most wives would be quickly seeking "relief" elsewhere, even if their husband was still around  :evil:

[JR]

And it is A LOT easier for a hot, slender young woman to get laid than it is for most of us Of course she'll make you pay by picking a fat unattractive one then ensuring you get introduced so you can feel like shit (just like you made her feel). But then again maybe she'll pick a young, handsome, well hung stud and introduce you, making sure you know certain parts of his body are the size of a horse just so you can feel inadequate like you made her feel.

Best to keep it in your pants. And if you can't, keep it in your hands

[OlgaH]

I agree with you here Gator. It might be tolerated by women in Russia because they think they have no choice, but if you were to try it in North America, I would wager most wives would be quickly seeking "relief" elsewhere, even if their husband was still around  :evil:

A Russian man reading this would smile.  They know and can tell you how to bear the weight of horns    

[OlgaH]

 

[Ooooops]

Most of us try to cut a RW a little extra slack.   We really value thier opinion but know they can be a little more direct than what we are used to hearing in America.  They grew up in a culture that is different, the sense of humor can be a little different there can be lots of differences.   We can learn a lot by being a little patient and not to quick to take offense.

What really gets to me is patronizing...    :evil:    But IRL I try to be nice and stuff it...    Most of the times...   

[IAmZon]

young women to older men = "new car smell"

"Tim Robbins"