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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1600 on: November 08, 2011, 10:28:46 AM »
Did they use a breed of smoking dogs as test subjects :o ?

Could closeness to a smokinghotkova be similarly hazardous :D ? We urgently need to know of any inherent health dangers ;) .

Uh-oh!!! I hope not Sandro. I may have to dump my girl and look for an ugly one!!!!  :o
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1601 on: November 08, 2011, 10:34:25 AM »
Did they use a breed of smoking dogs as test subjects :o ?

Yes, as I understand it, they had some of the dogs smoke cigarettes while other of the dogs were kept in the same room and inhaled second hand smoke.

Now, many of the test dogs are wearing nicotine patches as they attempt to kick the habit.

Could closeness to a smokinghotkova be similarly hazardous :D ?

Depends on whether you (like Billy Clinton), inhale or not.

On a related note:  When presidential aspirant Herman Cain was asked about harass, he said it depended on the definition of harass and asked if it was one word or two.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1602 on: November 08, 2011, 11:03:24 AM »
 Congratulations on the visa being approved Billy!
 
 
It was a month ago?  I'm sure she had her stamped passport back  in hand a few days later at most.
 Did she fly home with you, or is she still in Ukraine?
 
What kind of wedding are you both planning?
 
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1603 on: November 08, 2011, 11:33:05 AM »
Did they use a breed of smoking dogs as test subjects :o ?

Could closeness to a smokinghotkova be similarly hazardous :D ? We urgently need to know of any inherent health dangers ;) .

LMFAO
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1604 on: November 08, 2011, 05:57:59 PM »
This is not relevant to your story of romancing A, yet you introduce it.
 
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....sperm/semen is Carcinogenic.

 
 
This is just plain wrong. 
 
Carcinogen - substance or agent that causes cancer or contributing to the causation of cancer.
 
 
The only possible connection I can think of is the fact that some strains of HPV can initiate cervical cancer, and sexual intercouse exposes women to the man's HPV. 
 
There is of course the other possibility that the man's DNA in his sperm may have markers suggesting genetic predisposition to cancer and this could be inherited by a baby dependent upon how the man's DNA combined with the mother's DNA.  However, such does not meet the definition of carcinogen. 
 

So why cloud your story with such irrelevant blurbs, especailly when they are controversial or wrong? 
 
 

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1605 on: November 08, 2011, 06:15:00 PM »
....Learn to Google and you will learn sperm/semen is Carcinogenic. Semen has high doses of minerals in it so ingested or using it on your teeth is healthy.

Holy Warm White Slime Batman!
 
I hope this was the case study you read by that lone dentist who didn't agree with the other 4 about the effectiveness of Crest toothpaste, as opposed to stating this matter of factly from personal experience, BillyB.
 
I mean Ben Stiller and Cameron Diaz did experimented using semen as hair gel...
 

 
...but teeth whitening agent is news to me...Dang!
 
If true, I would've been the equivalent of Fort Knox on two legs by the truckloads of the minerals I parted with over the years, BillyB.   :P
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1606 on: November 08, 2011, 10:34:29 PM »
Congratulations on the visa approval.  That's great news.   I wish you both a long and happy married life.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1607 on: November 08, 2011, 11:51:20 PM »
 





I asked A if I can phone her father and introduce myself and our plans. A's expression was not good and I felt she is still hurt from the past so I didn't push the issue. Later in private I asked mom more about A's father.
 


As I mentioned before, A's father is a high level officer for INTERPOL. Before that he was in the Army and retired as a low level general. He had combat duty for USSR in Afganistan and graduated with honors from the top Moscow Acadamy.
 
 
Mom said A's father was blonde, tall and good looking. His physique was of a real man.
 


Mom said she was a good wife and everyday she cooked good meals for him and made sure his uniform was in order before he left for work. Because he was in the military, he was gone for many months at a time. Mom did not care if he was having affairs as long as he took care of the family. Dad did something, I won't mention here, that mom couldn't forgive and she left him.
 


When mom arrived back home, A's grandmother opened the door, look at her for a few seconds and closed the door on mom. Apparently grandmother didn't think what dad did was worth breaking up over and mom was almost disowned. The family's ladies have a philosophy to stand by their man through thick and thin.
 

 
A already knows 5 languages including Arabic. With her looks, intelligence, and attitude, I think she can go far once she decides what she want's to do. She has a positive personality and a good communicator. I suggested she get into real estate. The housing market is bound to go up within a few years.






A bit of unsolicited advice, it takes two to tango.



Exactly, so what are you doing here? About 3 years ago I told a couple of prolific posters who liked to quarrel to spend more time with their families instead of here. They divorced soon after and as single men, they now spend less time fighting and on the internet since I rarely see them anymore. Too little too late. I got two more weeks before A comes so you better make plans to bump heads with someone else. The forum is a great place to learn, help others or just read other people's experiences but look at the big picture. If you got a woman, pay attention to her instead of getting angry here.




BillyB,

Congratulations! I hope your forthcoming marriage brings happiness to you and A.






Thank you Gator, Hammer, Steve, Jumper and Turboguy for your thoughts.




Rather than constantly trying to defend your philosophies, why not ignore your detractors? You will not change and neither will they. It becomes a wall of words.






I have ignored them early in this thread. Later I warned them I may examine their lives. I demonstrated a strong man can do both when necessary. I understand some posters wanted to give me a verbal punch in the mouth to express their displeasure of my relationship with A but I cyber demonstrated what I'd do in real life if someone has ugly comments for me.
 
 
Early in the thread I ignored the accusations but it only compounded some of the problems especially when those who have not read all the thread think the author is a criminal and those making accusations were not challenged. It became hard for any new reader to the forum to distinguish the real from the unreal unless they read the entire thread.




I suspect those who have a habit of making things up do not stop at me. Life must be hell for a spouse who has to defend themselves against something they never said or done. Big arguments over nothing but I don't mind people, especially the ladies, seeing certain behavior among men, good or bad, in this thread. They can learn what's available out there, use caution and make a better decision choosing a husband. Some men pay attention to their girl, some to the internet. Some men are positive, some negative. Some men like to quarrel, some are calm. Lots of life lessons to be learned here. This thread wasn't started for A.




I have one question though. How long did it take between the time of the interview and A getting her visa? I'm just curious because I plan on going through this process next year and want to be there when my Lena has her interview.I want to be able to time it all just right. Again, Congrats!!!!!!

 


The embassy website said to expect up to 10 days but A got her visa in 4 days. When you get to the consulate, don't stand in line behind a hundred other people. Talk to the consulate security guard near the entry door and he may let you in before those other people. You and Lena will go to a room and talk to the person behind the window to let them know you've arrived and later they will call your name and ask for the paperwork that is requested of you by an email they will send to you or Lena. You will also pay for the interview before the interview. I doubt they refund the money if a person doesn't pass the interview. I believe the consulate reads your correspondence so it's best Lena read everything again. If you talked about how many brothers or sisters you have or what type of work you do, I bet you they will ask her questions pertaining to what you told her. Make sure to bring all your phone records to show how many times you called her and the duration. Feel free to ask anymore questions.




It was a month ago? I'm sure she had her stamped passport back in hand a few days later at most.
Did she fly home with you, or is she still in Ukraine?

What kind of wedding are you both planning?

 


Oct 27 last month. She has her passport and visa back. I'm home and she will arrive in 2 weeks. Wedding is going to be traditional church wedding. I'm fine with even a simple wedding but A has a certain picture on how her wedding is supposed to be and I'll do what makes her happy.
 

 
Before buying her a ticket I asked A to meet me in Las Vegas for a week to enjoy some good food and entertainment. She was happy at first but then turned me down. She said she wanted to meet my parents first and said it would look disrespectful if her first actions in America is having fun. I told her I don't answer to my parents but I still couldn't convince her. When I bought her the ticket, coincidently her first stop in America is in Las Vegas before Seattle and after I sent her the itinerary she asked me if this is a joke and said “If you show up in Las Vegas, I will not leave the airport! You will not be able to pull me!” I said “Don't worry about me showing up in Vegas, you have only 7 hours till your next flight so we can't do much in Vegas with that amount of time.”
 
 
For the record, I bought A one way tickets. I don't suspect A leaving me anytime soon so I'll save myself a few hundred bucks. I'm too good to her and she adores me. There was a couple of cheaper flights out of Chicago but the layover time was 1 ˝ hours which is too short for comfort and 12 hours compared to Las Vegas's 7 hours which isn't great either but better than the Chicago option. There were not many other reasonable options for the days we agreed on for her to arrive. One way tickets are strange. A fraction are cheaper than round trip and the majority are almost double in price.
 
 
This is not relevant to your story of romancing A, yet you introduce it.
 

 
Again this thread isn't about A. I introduced it earlier before this mini trip report but Mutz recently brought it back up and because I care about his prostate more than he, I wanted to help him. Read the link I provided earlier and you will see it's about what I said it's about and less about smoking dogs. Here are a couple of important paragraphs.
 
 
But why should ejaculating more often cut the risk of prostate cancer? The team speculates that ejaculation prevents carcinogens building up in the gland. The prostate, together with the seminal vesicles, secretes the bulk of the fluid in semen, which is rich in substances such as potassium, zinc, fructose and citric acid.
 
 
"It's a prostatic stagnation hypothesis," says Giles. "The more you flush the ducts out, the less there is to hang around and damage the cells that line them."
 
 
The prostate gland helps create seminal fluid which are rich in those substances listed above. Flushing it out instead of leaving high doses in one spot for a length of time is good advice. Even if one doesn't believe, I can think of other benefits to flush out semen daily so why the reluctance of a few to do so? Semen for occasional use is ok and sometimes benefitial to women but with too much semen, women are more prone to cervical cancer. A guy can protect his gal by using condoms or pulling out often. In studies among gay men with over 1000 partners a year, they are more prone to gastrointestinal cancers. Moderation is the key.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1608 on: November 09, 2011, 06:56:58 AM »
  Semen for occasional use is ok and sometimes benefitial to women but with too much semen, women are more prone to cervical cancer. A guy can protect his gal by using condoms or pulling out often. .

Preliminary findings show the hormone prostaglandin which is found in high concentrations in semen is linked to increased rates of uterine and cervical cancer. It promotes tumor growth. On the other hand they say semen does wonders for the skin..... 

Congrats on your approval and I wish you both the best.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1609 on: November 09, 2011, 07:31:01 AM »

Again this thread isn't about A.


So what is the thread about?
 
The thread did not start with A, yet as your new life evolved the thread should have focused on A, unless she is a passing fancy.   If this thread is not about A, I can conclude only that it is about you.  That would suggest that you are self-aggrandizing and solipsistic, i. e. a self-absorbed egomaniac.  And frankly this thread is replete with the following:   :mooning: :tongueout: :naughty:
 
When it should focus on the following:
 
 :couple:
 
 
I found some comments directed at you to be not only rude and judgmental, but vicious.  But why sink to their level?  IMO a strong man is also a gentleman.  I too can be a street fighter, yet afterwards I regret it.  When slinging mud, both sides get covered by mud.  Teach A to take the HIGH ROAD and imprint that in your children.
 

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1610 on: November 09, 2011, 07:57:28 AM »
Well said Gator, well said..... :clapping:
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1611 on: November 09, 2011, 05:30:42 PM »
 
A few more things about the interview. The interviewer asked if A knew she had relatives in America and if she had any contact with them. A knew that and told me over a year ago she had distant relatives that came to America decades ago but she has not had contact with them. I'm glad our government is checking on the background of those wanting to enter instead of slacking.
 
 
A was asked if she wanted to do the interview in English or Russian and she picked English as I recommended to her. She underestamates her ablility to speak English but she speaks English so well she doesn't have a sexy Russian accent.  :(   She had one year of learning English in school and taught herself the rest of the way.
 
 
 
they say semen does wonders for the skin.....


 
And for the teeth. Brush twice daily and in-between meals.
 
 
Congrats on your approval and I wish you both the best.


Thank you Alex.
 


 
 


When it should focus on the following:
 :couple:



 
 
Start with post #1 and that's what it's all about and my path pursuing it.
 
 
IMO a strong man is also a gentleman.


 
Considering some of mudslinging and allegations on my fiancee earlier, I've been awfully nice. Some posters who read this thread in it's entirety expresses no hostility towards me. Gator, if you ever read this thread in it's entirety, you will see I was a gentleman and was in control of it. Turboguy recognized that earlier. I never reported anyone to a moderator and allowed people to run their mouths for a good period of time before challenging them. It's a good learning experience about human behavior even if watching people get ugly. It'll give people pause and they'll exercise more caution before marrying a pretty face. Remember those threads created in my honor humiliation? I didn't participate in them. People were free to say anything they wanted about me or A but they aren't going to get gentleman out me 100% of the time at least not in this thread.
 
 
I too can be a street fighter, yet afterwards I regret it.


 


Out of curiosity, did you actually regret that azz whoopin you did on those guys in Iran?
 
 
Since we're on the topic of how ugly people can get, a Pakistani man divorces his Ukrainian wife. 4 days after bitter mediation over child custody, Ex Ukrainian wife runs out of gas in car leaves 2 yo son alone while she walks to gas station. When she returns, son is gone. Police investigated and car did not run out of gas. She refuses to take lie detector test. If you want to see how ugly people can get, watch them when they're getting a divorce.
 
 
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/11/09/1899013/missing-redmond-boys-relatives.html
 
 
I've read a few more articles about this case and Julia Biryukova had a troubled youth stealing clothes. She and ex hubby in the past left 3 month old son in car for for an hour in below freezing weather. Well, if any of you single guys don't want to travel far and looking for an local FSU woman, Julia is free. I'm sure she'll be a better wife and mother next go around.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1612 on: November 10, 2011, 09:30:35 AM »




Quote from: Muzh on November 08, 2011, 07:39:47 AMA bit of unsolicited advice, it takes two to tango.




Exactly, so what are you doing here? About 3 years ago I told a couple of prolific posters who liked to quarrel to spend more time with their families instead of here. They divorced soon after and as single men, they now spend less time fighting and on the internet since I rarely see them anymore. Too little too late. I got two more weeks before A comes so you better make plans to bump heads with someone else. The forum is a great place to learn, help others or just read other people's experiences but look at the big picture. If you got a woman, pay attention to her instead of getting angry here.





Whoa dude.


I can see it went supersonic over your head, maybe.


The unsolicited advice I gave you was for BOTH to work hard for the success of the relationship, not just her. Notice that was as encouragement for your success.


And god knows I would not bump heads with you, that would not be a fair exchange for you.


One more time, good luck with your child-bride.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1613 on: November 10, 2011, 09:38:12 AM »





Quote from: alex330 on Yesterday at 06:56:58 AMthey say semen does wonders for the skin.....



   
 
And for the teeth. Brush twice daily and in-between meals.
 
 
Thank you Alex.
 


Here's another fascinating tidbit for you Billy.


The bacteria mostly responsible for tooth decay is Lactobacillus acidophilus


However, L. acidophilus is a normal flora in women's vagina.


So, you are absolutely correct. Brush after every meal.



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« Reply #1614 on: November 10, 2011, 11:00:01 AM »
Necessitas dat ingenium

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1615 on: November 10, 2011, 12:07:36 PM »

The unsolicited advice I gave you was for BOTH to work hard for the success of the relationship,
 

 
Where do you get the impression that I don't work to please women? Did you read the thread? Between this relationship and my last serious one I found 6 women who would marry me. Earlier when I was talking about my dating days I mention I help the ladies fix their car or things in their home. If we're not a match I would still help them as friends and they'd give me a hint "It's nice to have a man in the home." All this was stated in the past.
 
 
I've dated dozens of ladies that are engineers, doctors, business owners and downright gorgeous and they have plenty of men to choose from. Some want to marry me. One reason most women here aren't upset with me is because for me to have that kind of enormous success to catch those women, I must possess good qualities yet you think I'm selfish and don't know how to appeal to women this far into the thread!
 
 
Unlike you Gator admitted to not reading the whole thread. He is right in his advice and if he did read more, he would see early and throughout this thread more than anybody I mentioned that a guy must have good manners and be a gentleman among other things to be successful with the ladies. Get in the top 10% and a guy will have plenty of ladies to choose from. For the first few dozen pages this thread was pretty civil and I exercised being a gentleman. He would be proud.
 
 
Now getting back to "work at the relationship" not too long ago I mentioned A wants to go for a walk with me everyday and go to church and I said I will do these things for her. If I have a choice to go on a walk or out to a nice restaurant with the wife or come here and find my least favorite posters and start a fight, what do you think I will choose? My version of working on a relationship and your version of working on a relationship certainly isn't the same.
 
 
I've had a robust dating life at home and abroad when there. Why get married to one woman? Well, she has to be special and if she is special, I'm going to spend time with her. Spending time with someone special is a good thing, right?  If being married makes me happy, I can't see myself being grumpy and negative and spending lots of time on the internet. That's not part of marriage for me. Heck, I don't even get into arguments with ladies. I had to raise my voice once towards a RW I dated because she kept crying over the same problem and using me for sympathy more than I liked.
 
 
I'll come to the forum to help people and give updates occasionally but to tango with other men? No. I'd rather tango with the wife. You're right it takes two to tango but you have to pick the right partner.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1616 on: November 10, 2011, 01:15:45 PM »
Easy there Billy bob, it was just a common sense approach. The fact is that most women would find it pretty old, pretty quick the submissive routine. This is why I suggested to you that both work on it.


It has been my experience with women I've dated like a couple of princesses, actresses, models, foreign country presidents and the sort that it works better when both parties are treated the same.


Just some friendly advice.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1617 on: November 12, 2011, 01:29:15 AM »
 
A will be arriving in America a few days before Thanksgiving. She knows all about this American holiday and asked me if I expect her to cook a BIG chicken. I told her that we will either eat a a relatives house or at a restaurant because I realize she probably will be tired still adjusting to the time zone difference. She was relieved because she never cooked a BIG chicken before but she said she will learn by next Thanksgiving.

 
Speaking of food, below is a photo of A and I at a nice Italian restaurant. I know some of you have been anxious to see my ugly face again and now it looks like it was beat by an ugly stick since I was still tired and trying to adjust to the time zone difference. A was not happy with the bill. She said it was expensive for what we got. I agreed the taste and the amount of food we got was not good value. In America I've eaten in normal restaurants with better food for 3 times less money. I'm thankful A understand “value” and that it's important for her to get “value” for our money.

 
I don't know if anybody here has been to Independence Square in Kiev lately but when I was there, there were a lot of cops patrolling. About 4 times as much as I've seen my previous visits to Kiev. I assume President Yanukovych is showing the public he is doing more as president or trying to discourage protesters from protesting Yulia Tymoshenko's jailing. I didn't see much protesting so apparently she lost a lot of support compared to the support she got during the Orange Revolution. Mom and A supported the Orange Revolution but they are disappointed in the results of the politicians who were put into power by the revolution.

 
With more cops patrolling the street means the crime rate goes up. I think I was the victim of a crime. While walking alone in the underground tunnel between the underground mall at Independence Square and Mihaylovskaya street two cops stopped me. They asked if I had guns or cocaine and one began to frisk me putting his hands in every pocket. He pulled out my wallet and gave it to the other cop and after he looked through it he continued to hold onto it. The cop frisking me turned me around but I turned back saying “if you want to check behind me, you get get behind. I want to keep my eyes on my wallet, you understand?” He agreed.



After checking me out and the other giving me back my wallet, he asked if I can help them with coffee. I gave him a blank stare but after he asked a 4th time, I gave him a few grivnas to make this situation go away. I had some suspicion that they would go as far as planting drugs on me so I granted them their wish. When I handed the money to the cop, he took in in handshake fashion. These guys are obviously experienced and know how to grab money with their palm.

 
Later I look in my wallet and I suspect it may be one bill lighter. It's possible, not definite, the cop holding my wallet stole a bill while I was briefly turned around. I try not to carry too much money in my wallet. If for any reason I have to carry a lot, I put the money in my sock.

 
I called the embassy to report this incident and they said they have similar reports of cops doing this.

 
The apartment manager was unhappy this happened to me and said it's bad for tourism. He gave me a few tips. He said the cops are stupid so just walk away saying “I don't understand”. If I get stopped again, he said to call him and he will talk to the cops. If he's not available, call anyone who can talk the language and they will be able to get the cops to back off. The cops prefer easy targets as they understand they can get in trouble for what they're doing. Also keep the embassy's emergency phone number with you and they may be able to talk to the cops before they do their thing. Don't walk though areas with few people to witness what the cops may do.

 
If anybody else who frequents the FSU or lives there have any good advice to avoid cops, feel free to share.
 
 
The fact is that most women would find it pretty old, pretty quick the submissive routine.
 

 
Muzh, A is not submissive to me because I asked her to, she's submissive to me because she wants to. If I remain the real man in her eyes that she wants, she will continue to be submissive. I won't marry a woman that I have to change. I'm not that desperate.
 
 
I understand many here view a submissive woman as weak. It takes strength for a woman to be submissive to a man on her own free will. Mom is one of the strongest RW I've come to know. Whenever we're about, she talks to people on the street, in the store, or restaurant with a commanding voice. When she saw a beggar on the street holding a baby who was stressing from the heat, mom chastised her loudly in front of everyone and shoved money down her bra. Considering when mom lost everything she owned in Libya, she's held up well. When with mom, A will yield but when we're without mom and I can't talk to people on the street, store or restaurant, A will talk and I see a little of mom in her.
 
 
I understand many here think submissive women have low self esteem thus be willing to do anything to keep a man. A does not have low self esteem. She is well bred and understands her value. In Libya, fellow doctors have asked mom if they could marry A. At the beach in Libya many European men have asked to call her and when she refused, some would ask mom and some would leave their phone number with A although they were rejected. On the internet A had many guys hitting on her.
 
 
A have rejected those men yet she wants my approval. Why would she not submit to those men yet she submits to me? Probably because I earned it and I am her definition of a real man.
 
 
A and mom are very conservative. Religion has taught mom and A that a wife must submit to her husband. Family tradition has taught that too. They both embrace that belief and believe to have the ideal family life, that is the way it's supposed to be. With that A knows she must choose wisely and not just marrying any stupid guy that comes along and submit to him. I've talked many good things about A and I that is from my point of view based off what I I see in her and how she behaves towards me. To most men she would probably roll right over them if they prove themselves less than a real man. Since A will not submit just to any man, she is picky when selecting her mate. There is no doubt in my mind I had a lot of competition before winning her over. To win a woman over like A, a man has to be intelligent, wise, understand how to talk to a woman and take care of one. 15 years ago I probably couldn't catch a woman like A and I'm sure that is why a lot of young men before me have failed to win her heart.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1618 on: November 12, 2011, 10:00:32 PM »
 
Even thought there are two McDonalds half a mile away at Independence Square, the McDonalds at the Khreshatyk Metro is the busiest restaurant in Ukraine. People always going in and out. Very difficult to find a seat and I seen up to 20 employees running up front at the cash registers and 20 in the back cooking. Although temperature was near freezing when I was there in late October, ice cream cones were a favorite of many customers.
 
 
A rarely goes to McDonalds but she likes the Big Mac. She asked me if we could go and I said "sure if you're okay with having a dead husband. Your mom will kill me."  To play it safe I invited mom to go with us and it was her first experience in a McDonalds.
 
 
Mom found a table and sat there to hold it while A and I stood in line to order and we had this conversation.
 
 
Me: I'll get your mom one of those chicken wraps with vegatables in it since she like healthy food. I'm going to get a Filet O Fish sandwich and I'll give mom a bite and if she likes it more than the chicken wrap, I'll get her a fish sandwich too. Let your mom try your Big Mac too. She probably won't like it because the beef isn't 100% real.
 
 
A: You can't share your food with other people. It's not Ukrainian custom and bad manners.
 
 
Me: I'm not sharing food with other people. I'm sharing with family. I'll ask her anyway. I want to give her a choice just in case she doesn't like the chicken wrap.
 
 
A: Bill! If you want Ukrainian wife, you can't do this.
 
 
Me: I will do this and we will see what a Ukrainian woman will do.
 
 
After sitting down at the table I offered mom the first bite out of my sandwich and without hesitation she took a bite. A's eyes opened wide and then I handed A the sandwich and she took a bite. A is a fast learner. There are some things I read better about mom than A although she lived all her life with her.
 
 
 
I been reading a lot from posters who are getting involved with ladies from Ukraine and I just remembered one important thing when pursing a visa for a fiancee. An interview can be scheduled a day after the medical exam since the results of the medical exam will be given to the fiancee same day. To play it safe, I scheduled A's interview 3 days after the medical exam just in case the clinic needed to call her back for something. Fiancees should bring their immunization records otherwise they will have to be re-vaccinated for everything at a cost. There are a couple of medical clinics to choose from and one is cheaper than the other so your gal should call about the costs.
 
 
To schedule an interview a guy must call the Call Center and use a credit card to purchase minutes to speak to someone who will talk to you about an available date and pencil your fiancee in. A guy or his fiancee can do this. Read all 5 pages in the link below and it gives a good run down of what to do.
 
 
http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/fiancee-step1.html
 
 
 
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1619 on: November 13, 2011, 12:02:23 AM »

While walking alone in the underground tunnel between the underground mall at Independence Square and Mihaylovskaya street two cops stopped me.

If you go up the escalator out of the mall, turn right and then go past the pizza place, is this the tunnel you're talking about?  As I recall there is a long, dark, empty area between the pizza place and the stairs up to the street.  I never got a real secure feeling there and always moved through with purpose.  During the day there were often scraggly looking street musicians hanging out there.  Anyway, sorry you got mugged (by the cops no less) and thanks for the heads up. . .
 
 

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1620 on: November 13, 2011, 03:38:54 AM »
It's obvious the cops had no idea who Billy is, otherwise they would have been groveling at his feet and begging his forgiveness.   ::)
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1621 on: November 13, 2011, 06:09:07 AM »
Strange behavior of the cops  :o I always thought that they'd avoid confronting foreigners from western countries because they usually know their rights. But to tell the truth, Billy, you look more like a citizen of neighbouring former-CIS countries like Moldova or Tadzhikistan and some cops do like rip those off, so may be that's what it was.
Anyway, the owner of the flat is right - that's outrageous and very bad for tourism...

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1622 on: November 13, 2011, 06:50:31 AM »

  I've had a robust dating life at home and abroad when there. Why get married to one woman? Well, she has to be special and if she is special, I'm going to spend time with her. Spending time with someone special is a good thing, right?  If being married makes me happy, I can't see myself being grumpy and negative and spending lots of time on the internet. That's not part of marriage for me. 


My congratulations on the big step towards getting A in the US Billy ! :)

This paragraph by you caught my attention. Could I ask for your opinion on why would men marry at all? If a man can have a quality girlfriend and spend lots of time with her, assuming she is local, why would he want to marry her?
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1623 on: November 13, 2011, 03:47:37 PM »
This paragraph by you caught my attention. Could I ask for your opinion on why would men marry at all? If a man can have a quality girlfriend and spend lots of time with her, assuming she is local, why would he want to marry her?

A Fairy Tale
 
Once upon a time,  a Prince lived a noble life.  He asked a beautiful Princess, "Will you marry me?"  The Princess  said, "No!!!"
 
The Prince changed his life.  He no longer thought about marriage.   Instead he  rode motorcycles, hunted and fished, played golf, raced cars, went to nude bars, dated slender long-legged full-breasted women half his age, and drank  beer and Captain Morgan rum.   He ate big steaks, potato chips and beans and blew enormous farts.   He never heard complaining, never paid  child support or alimony, and kept his house.   All his friends and family thought he was cool, and he had tons of money in the bank.    And he left the toilet seat up.

The End :) ;) :D ;D
 
Seriously Lily, scientists assert that humans are hardwired from our long evolution to live as couples. Unlike essentially all mammals, the human female is receptive to sex year round and not just during the estrous period of the reproductive cycle.   Hence the male human stays near the female, and he even helps with child rearing.  Supposedly male bears and tigers will kill offspring so that the female will enter the estrous cycle sooner (how do they know that?).

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1624 on: November 13, 2011, 04:20:58 PM »

...Seriously Lily, scientists assert that humans are hardwired from our long evolution to live as couples. Unlike essentially all mammals, the human female is receptive to sex year round and not just during the estrous period of the reproductive cycle.   Hence the male human stays near the female, and he even helps with child rearing....

I believe Lily was posing the question to Billy.

Also the benefits that you mentioned could easily be obtained by having a local girlfriend or even living together with said girlfriend.


 

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