Almost-total newbie here ...

[GQBlues]

Kevin-

Please don't miscontrue what I'm about to tell you other than to give you a little friendly pat. I detect a very strong sense of insecurity on your part. It's almost like you're constantly searching for validation of some sort. For starters, emoticons are free to use, but it doesn't necessarily mean you have to use a lot of them on every post.

Some suggestions:

1) Relax

2) Date as many women and as often as you can in your locale - now, right now - today, tonight. Not necessarily to get laid or get into a relationship, but just to get comfortable being around women - period. Then really pay special attention to "the" woman.

3) Post your most current photo on your profile. Not the one you currently have and are using in this forum. It'll be a very strong image in these women's minds and if that image somehow didn't match the man who stepped off the tarmac, you're very likely toast.

4) Relax, then relax some more...

If you went to FSU in the state you're presently in today, you'll be like someone in a straight jacket diving into a pool of live sharks.

You're a fairly good looking guy, Kevin. Just remember that there's nothing worst that can happen to a man than to look, sound, and appear sappy to a woman. It does nothing to add to the eroticism. If matters not how much she was excited to meet you before you actually showed up. A definite date-killer, man. It really is. You don't want to repeatedly find yourself eating out of the hands of anyone with two breasts and a smile.

You're 46 years old, in good shape; now you just need to be in a 'good place'. Do that and you'll be fine. Let these women like who you are, not someone you think they'll like.

Remember 3 things:

a) Cerebral
b) Emotional
c) Eroticism

These are keys to every woman. Find the balance. Play one over the other depending on the moment/circumstances. But balance will always be key.

[OlgaH]

FWIW ...

For the benefit of (new) readers of this thread, here's what my EM profile said BEFORE I started making changes: ...

Just don't make it look like a list of dry words  Honestly, your first variation of "personal message" looked more creative, of course it is only my opinion. If you enjoy humor, traveling, fun and so on you should mention it, again it is only my opinion.

[veritas]

You're a fairly good looking guy, Kevin. Just remember that there's nothing worst that can happen to a man than to look, sound, and appear sappy to a woman. It does nothing to add to the eroticism. If matters not how much she was excited to meet you before you actually showed up. A definite date-killer, man. It really is. You don't want to repeatedly find yourself eating out of the hands of anyone with two breasts and a smile.

Well, GQBlues, you're pretty much "right on the money" with your entire post there ... (Sad emoticon) ...

As with Sculpto's earlier post, I really am at a loss for words, other than to agree with ya ... (Validation) ...

I appreciate the "fairly good-looking guy" remark, but I sure don't feel like it, and never have ... (Insecurity) ...

Perhaps I really shouldn't be looking for a FSUW, after all ...

But I didn't QUITE get "two breasts and a smile"?

At the risk of sounding insecure (again),
sorry for that raunchy "tit action" post ...

Thanks, GQBlues ...

Just don't make it look like a list of dry words  Honestly, your first variation of "personal message" looked more creative, of course it is only my opinion. If you enjoy humor, traveling, fun and so on you should mention it, again it is only my opinion.

Thanks, OlgaH ... I very much respect your opinion ...

Kevin

P.S.  I did say that I was "TOO nice" ...

[GQBlues]

No, Kevin, I don't want you to fully agree with me, danggit. It wasn't what my post intended to do. I would like to see you prove me wrong. 'Starting now' is a good time.

Be sexy, man. If that means you need to get a little arrogant and own center stage, then so be it. Take it and take charge. Stand your ground.

They were suggestions, not advise.

One thing though, never ever search from a woman, whether she's local or from FSU, to fill your void. Don't subscribe to that idiotic Jerry McGuire line "You complete me!" crap. A good partner is someone who nicely compliments your being, and you unto hers. She should never be the filler of your void. It would sux for any woman to have a relationship with a man carrying a void in his being and sense of self. You wouldn't want that in a woman either, would you?

Get sexy, be sexy, feel sexy, and then get out there and have fun. The rest, I promise you, is easy.

But I didn't QUITE get "two breasts and a smile"?

Don't settle for a woman who is merely good enough. You deserve more than that. You waste more time than you already have, she'll likely hook-up with a man she deems is merely 'good enough' - instead of you.

[veritas]

Be sexy, man. If that means you need to get a little arrogant and own center stage, then so be it. Take it and take charge. Stand your ground.

Get sexy, be sexy, feel sexy, and then get out there and have fun. The rest, I promise you, is easy.

Don't know how, man, don't know how ...

Or maybe I DO "know" how, but I just can't DO it -- validation, insecurity, etc. ...

"Getting sexy", "being sexy", and "feeling sexy" are TOTALLY alien concepts to me -- and always have been ...

I'm really getting the feeling that I don't even BELONG in this game ...
Being an exceptionally good guy just isn't good ENOUGH in this life ...

But I surely do appreciate your take on all this ...

One thing though, never ever search from a woman, whether she's local or from FSU, to fill your void. Don't subscribe to that idiotic Jerry McGuire line "You complete me!" crap. A good partner is someone who nicely compliments your being, and you unto hers. She should never be the filler of your void. It would sux for any woman to have a relationship with a man carrying a void in his being and sense of self. You wouldn't want that in a woman either, would you?

No, man, I sure wouldn't ... I sure wouldn't ...

Kevin

P.S.  Hey, but I make a truly AWESOME friend to WOMEN!  All of my "real" friends ARE women ...

[veritas]

BTW, this humble thread o' mine has now gotten more "looks" than even HDHRW (though not nearly as many as Lana's) ...

How's THAT for "validation"?? 

[OlgaH]

I'm really getting the feeling that I don't even BELONG in this game ...

Be yourself without games. Sooner or later all the games come to end, trying to play games and make something else of yourself that not you, you  may attract not exactly what you are looking for  What is important is to find a partner who will love you for what you are, I think. 

[veritas]

Be yourself without games. Sooner or later all the games come to end, trying to play games and make something else of yourself that not you, you  may attract not exactly what you are looking for  What is important is to find a partner who will love you for what you are, I think. 

I should've used quotes around the word "game", OlgaH ... Sculpto has referred to "having game", NOT "playing games" ...

I don't play games -- I'm very authentic, and I don't try to misrepresent myself or be someone I'm NOT ...

If my EM profile reads as "cheesy" or "sappy", then it's because *I'M* "cheesy" or "sappy" ...

Anyway, I don't put up a "front" -- for better or worse, at least I'm REAL ...

But you're right, OlgaH, and I appreciate the advice ...

Kevin

[SMS60]

P.S.  Hey, but I make a truly AWESOME friend to WOMEN!  All of my "real" friends ARE women ...

Kevin, once you figure out why women want to be your "friend" instead of "lover" things will start happening.

You have something self defeating going on here.

Good luck

[FredC]

Kevin,

I'll give you little bit of advise. Once you start getting letters from beautiful, age appropriate ladies. You will be surprised how it builds your confidence. Once you actually get on a plane and meet and connect with some of these ladies. You will gain even more confidence.

I hope this helps........Fred

[veritas]

Kevin, once you figure out why women want to be your "friend" instead of "lover" things will start happening.

You have something self defeating going on here.

Well, I'm sure that I've got PLENTY of "self-defeating going on here",
but the female friends to which I referred were never INTENDED to
be "lovers" -- they were MUTUALLY "just friends" from the start ...

In fact, my very closest and dearest friend EVER happens to be a married British woman ...
And the rest were already "attached" or in relationships when I first met them, as well ...

Not being your typical "guy guy", I just happen to get on FAMOUSLY with women friends ...

FWIW ...

I'll give you little bit of advise. Once you start getting letters from beautiful, age appropriate ladies. You will be surprised how it builds your confidence. Once you actually get on a plane and meet and connect with some of these ladies. You will gain even more confidence.

I hope this helps........Fred

Yes, Sculpto has told me much the same thing, but I still don't think that will "build my confidence" much ...

But thanks anyway, Fred ...

Kevin

[Daveman]

Don't know how, man, don't know how ...

Or maybe I DO "know" how, but I just can't DO it -- validation, insecurity, etc. ...

"Getting sexy", "being sexy", and "feeling sexy" are TOTALLY alien concepts to me -- and always have been ...

I'm really getting the feeling that I don't even BELONG in this game ...
Being an exceptionally good guy just isn't good ENOUGH in this life ...

But I surely do appreciate your take on all this ...

No, man, I sure wouldn't ... I sure wouldn't ...

Kevin

P.S.  Hey, but I make a truly AWESOME friend to WOMEN!  All of my "real" friends ARE women ...

Oh lord... the "friend" guy! heh.. that's not a bad thing really.. most of my close friends in life have also been women.

Don't TRY to be anything... Look, here's a quick lesson from psychobabble land... the easiest way to get over insecurity is to NOT think about what you will do or say, worry about someone else's reaction to what you say or do, etc.. or plan situations ahead... simply act on what you feel... if you feel something, say it immediately.. and say it with force. I'm not talking about going off the deep end and screaming at the top of your lungs, but rather just stating flatly what you feel about a situation..  e.g. "that crap pisses me off..."  (though try to avoid phrases such as  "you're an IDIOT!") .. Don't back off.. stand your ground and fight! heh.  Just say it out loud to yourself at first.

When a guy comes across as an ass kisser (which most overly nice guys do) it's usually because he tries to be rational, thoughtful, polite, etc.  Which are good things, right?  You can do that AFTER you release your emotions  .   It takes practice if you're not used to it but you CAN be comfortable being yourself which includes (and to a great degree stems from) not stifling your emotions.  Nike, brother, just do it...  the only validation you need is from yourself. Don't try to be someone you are not, but rather unleash the bad-ass within.  We all have a little devil inside us. let that sucker loose, accept that he exists that, is natural, and be comfortable with it.. that's the quickest way to being and becoming comfortable with who you are because that devil just doesn't give a damn.  :evil:

Do it everywhere - e.g., restaurants if service or food is bad. No need to walk in with a shot gun but state flatly "I'm NOT satisfied with this".. get it? after a few months (or even weeks) of just saying what you feel when you feel it you'll begin to feel free as well as come across to others in a different light (and probably quite naturally sexy...but by then you really won't care so much about how others see you but rather you'll be more focused on how they come across to you.. you become the master of your space and women are just a small part of what interacts with you and your space).  

[Faux Pas]

Well, I'm sure that I've got PLENTY of "self-defeating going on here",
but the female friends to which I referred were never INTENDED to
be "lovers" -- they were MUTUALLY "just friends" from the start ...

In fact, my very closest and dearest friend EVER happens to be a married British woman ...
And the rest were already "attached" or in relationships when I first met them, as well ...

Not being your typical "guy guy", I just happen to get on FAMOUSLY with women friends ...

FWIW ...

Reminds me of a Chris Rock line "For men, women "friends" are just women you haven't banged yet"


Kevin, no doubt there's a connection in your history of lack of success with women and the way you initially approach them. When you allow a possible relationship to swerve into friendship rather than a romantic or physical interest, with many, many women, that is where it will stay. I only point this out to emphasize that the "male" in you should dominate your approach. Apparently it doesn't. When I say dominate, I mean as a single man, every woman you meet should be sized up and approached as a potential mate first. Only when "you" decide she is not to be your mate (not her), do you allow a friendship separate from romance to develop.

FWIW

[OlgaH]

Kevin, welcome to the board of "board certified homebrededucated psychotherapists. Now all your inferiority complexes will be turned inside out as underwear 

Yes, Dave is right about psychobabble land and other things in his post as well.

I recall Dave Attell's: "Doesn't matter what you say or do; people can always find a way to call you a dick." ("dick" of course is in metaphorical or figurative sense)   So, relax, don't worry and be happy 

[veritas]

Oh lord... the "friend" guy! heh.. that's not a bad thing really.. most of my close friends in life have also been women.

Don't TRY to be anything... Look, here's a quick lesson from psychobabble land... the easiest way to get over insecurity is to NOT think about what you will do or say, worry about someone else's reaction to what you say or do, etc.. or plan situations ahead... simply act on what you feel... if you feel something, say it immediately.. and say it with force. I'm not talking about going off the deep end and screaming at the top of your lungs, but rather just stating flatly what you feel about a situation..  e.g. "that crap pisses me off..."  (though try to avoid phrases such as  "you're an IDIOT!") .. Don't back off.. stand your ground and fight! heh.  Just say it out loud to yourself at first.

When a guy comes across as an ass kisser (which most overly nice guys do) it's usually because he tries to be rational, thoughtful, polite, etc.  Which are good things, right?  You can do that AFTER you release your emotions  .   It takes practice if you're not used to it but you CAN be comfortable being yourself which includes (and to a great degree stems from) not stifling your emotions.  Nike, brother, just do it...  the only validation you need is from yourself. Don't try to be someone you are not, but rather unleash the bad-ass within.  We all have a little devil inside us. let that sucker loose, accept that he exists that, is natural, and be comfortable with it.. that's the quickest way to being and becoming comfortable with who you are because that devil just doesn't give a damn.  :evil:

Do it everywhere - e.g., restaurants if service or food is bad. No need to walk in with a shot gun but state flatly "I'm NOT satisfied with this".. get it? after a few months (or even weeks) of just saying what you feel when you feel it you'll begin to feel free as well as come across to others in a different light (and probably quite naturally sexy...but by then you really won't care so much about how others see you but rather you'll be more focused on how they come across to you.. you become the master of your space and women are just a small part of what interacts with you and your space).  

Good to hear from ya, Dave!

The problem here is that I'm EXTREMELY analytical -- especially SELF-analytical (and
we all know what the first four letters of "analytical" are) -- EXTREMELY self-conscious,
and I have a very strong "need" (or "desire"?) to be "liked" ...

Now, I DO have my principles -- and I WON'T back down on them -- but my principles
are all about honor, duty, loyalty, kindness, compassion, and the like ... For example,
my favorite movie of all-time is "Gladiator" (1999) -- not because of the gore/violence
(which I rather enjoyed), but because of the sense of HONOR and DUTY that pervades
that film ... (And also its spiritual underpinnings, with the Roman view of the afterlife) ...

I saw that movie numerous times -- both in the theater and at home -- and every time
I saw it, I wanted to "be" that Roman general Maximus ... (My cat was already named "Max"
when I adopted him from a no-kill shelter, but I decided that "Max" would be short for "Maximus") ...

NOT because Russell Crowe happens to be staggeringly handsome -- I can't aspire to looking
like THAT -- but because his character had an unfailing code of HONOR and DUTY -- and THAT
I DO aspire to ... His character died (at the hands of Commodus) in the name of honor and duty ...

I'm everything that my father was NOT -- honorable, honest, generous, decent, good, kind, caring,
empathetic, sympathetic, compassionate, etc., with a strong sense of DUTY and a strong desire
to HELP ... Like I said earlier, I'm an exceptionally "good guy"!  (Just sayin') ...

So I guess your "psychobabble" -- while all quite true -- would have to take into account the powerful
NEGATIVE influence -- and NEGATIVE example -- of my FATHER ... As I said before, I'm everything that
he's NOT (or wasn't ... He died at the age of 53) ... I had the extreme misfortune of growing up with HIM
instead of my MOTHER, and I guess I've always striven to be the best "counter-example" to him that I can ...
(BTW, there's a reason that I've never had kids) ...

So, yeah, I've definitely got a lot "goin' on" in my head, and maybe that's why I shouldn't be dating at ALL ...

Anyway, as you can see, acting in a way that seems "dishonorable" or "ungentlemanly" is abhorrent to me ...

HOWEVER, my father was also very assertive -- and I'm NOT ... "Rational, thoughtful, polite"?  Exactly ...

Well, as Sculpto has told me, I've probably already said too much about myself in this kind of forum ...
But my father was also extremely PARANOID -- and I'm extremely TRUSTING ... "Naive"?  Perhaps ...

I trust you guys implicitly, whether I SHOULD or NOT ... It's just the way I AM ...

And I consider you guys new-found "friends" of a sort, or at least as far
as it's RATIONAL to "befriend" folks in the anonymity of the Internet ...

As I've written before, this is the only discussion board I've ever been on,
and the only reason I found RWD and started posting on here was 'cuz of D-M ...

But I'm glad I'm here ...    (Even though I don't think I even belong in this "game") ...

Kevin

[OlgaH]

But I'm glad I'm here ...    (Even though I don't think I even belong in this "game") ...

Kevin

Kevin, if you are into "psychobabbling games" you are in the right place   Just hold you pants  

[veritas]

Kevin, no doubt there's a connection in your history of lack of success with women and the way you initially approach them. When you allow a possible relationship to swerve into friendship rather than a romantic or physical interest, with many, many women, that is where it will stay. I only point this out to emphasize that the "male" in you should dominate your approach. Apparently it doesn't. When I say dominate, I mean as a single man, every woman you meet should be sized up and approached as a potential mate first. Only when "you" decide she is not to be your mate (not her), do you allow a friendship separate from romance to develop.

Disagree, Faux Pas ... (There!  Who SAYS I always agree?   )

I wasn't interested in ANY of these women as "mates" right from the very start --
and I didn't feel the need to be ... Already attached, no chemistry, etc. etc. etc. ...

Anyway, as you already know, I don't "approach" ANY women ... I made THAT pretty clear ...
All the (few) women with whom I've been involved were the ones who "approached" ME ...
I'm not trying to defend my lack of "approachment", but that's how it's ALWAYS been ...

The closest that I've ever come to "approaching" anyone has been online dating ...
And I did have some success with that, for a while ... It's a GREAT boon to "guys
like me" ...

Was I ever attracted to any of my female friends?  Sure, but she was MARRIED ...

I'll probably have more to say about this, but thanks, Faux Pas ...

Kevin, welcome to the board of "board certified homebrededucated psychotherapists. Now all your inferiority complexes will be turned inside out as underwear 

No need for y'all to do THAT, OlgaH -- I think I've already done it quite nicely for MYSELF! 

But seriously, I'll accept advice AND analysis from all comers ... 

Kevin

[veritas]

Kevin, if you are into "psychobabbling games" you are in the right place   Just hold you pants  

Yeah, OlgaH, I can see it coming ALREADY ...

[OlgaH]

Kevin,

this is for you  Good luck and good Florida night.

[veritas]

Kevin,

this is for you  Good luck and good Florida night.

HA!!!   I LOVE it, OlgaH!!!   And a good "wherever" night to you, too ...

Kevin

[Daveman]

Be yourself without games. Sooner or later all the games come to end, trying to play games and make something else of yourself that not you, you  may attract not exactly what you are looking for  What is important is to find a partner who will love you for what you are, I think. 

You psychobbabber! 

[veritas]

BTW, here's something that I wrote earlier this evening:


Yeah, I imagine that by NOW, "too revealing" is probably an understatement for me ...
I reckon it goes with the territory of being "naive", "too trusting", and "too nice", huh?

But YOU -- and Faux Pas, Lily, OlgaH, GQBlues, and others -- have really befriended
me on here -- DESPITE all my wacky posts -- and I sure do appreciate it ...

[GQBlues]

I saw that movie numerous times -- both in the theater and at home -- and every time I saw it, I wanted to "be" that Roman general Maximus ... (My cat was already named "Max" when I adopted him from a no-kill shelter, but I decided that "Max" would be short for "Maximus") ...

Maximus was a big breasted homosexual. He walked around in skirts and flip-flops all day. Definitely a Democrat - Hah-hah!

So far you're cool with me, Kevin. My two cats are adopted from a 'no-kill' adoption center too. KittenRescue.org (please donate, I do). Another good one is JustCatsRescue.org (please donate, I do).

Had I lived down the road from you and was still single, I'd be in your driveway right now corrupting your 'nice guy' persona. But sadly I don't. So for now you're home - alone.

Anyway, not too long ago I said...

Remember 3 things:

a) Cerebral
b) Emotional
c) Eroticism

These are keys to every woman. Find the balance. Play one over the other depending on the moment/circumstances. But balance will always be key.

Then you said....

P.S.  Hey, but I make a truly AWESOME friend to WOMEN!  All of my "real" friends ARE women ...

For a pretty heady guy @ 4.0 like you, this should be pretty easy to process so there's no need for any tedious elaboration (You have Jooky to thank for this). Learn to control these 3 things in you and you'll be able to apply them on command. Then just find your balance. The fact it's easy for you to garner female friends naturally tells me you can at least control most of 'a', some of 'b', and oppresss the 'c'. Learn how to mix these up according to your objective and call upon it on command - and the rest will take care of itself.

Lastly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with having friends with benefits, you know. It's food for the soul. Our homegrown females will occasionally pay for dinner too. Not too shabby if you ask me...

So have fun out there Kevin, and good luck!

[possum]

Folks, do me a favor here, don't go and pull a djgothman on the new guy.. He is trying very hard to learn from you, no need to make it an unpleasant experience for him.. Personally, I had no issue with his profile in its original form, other than the 4.0 GPA line, which as some of you rightly pointed out was irrelevant and confusing.. As for his use of the word fun, aren't you women always going on about how you want your man to have a "good sense of humor"?. Well, I've got news for you, it translates into being fun!

Listing Disney World as one of the interests is not necessarily a bad thing.. Many RW in nwekt's target range- I'm not sure what it is but I suspect it's mid to late 30's- have kids, and this little tidbit will let them know that their kids will have plenty of entertainment..

On the use of smilies, I have been known to use plenty of those in a single post, and not because I'm stupid or insecure either.. In fact, I'm very secure in my use of smilies, and I hope newkt is too.. Newkt, don't let these people intimidate you, do what you think you must and pretty soon you'll stop caring about others' opinions of yourself so much..

[veritas]

Maximus was a big breasted homosexual. He walked around in skirts and flip-flops all day. Definitely a Democrat - Hah-hah!

TOO funny, GQBlues!  And I've said before that I LOVE your avatar there, as well as your signature lines ...

So far you're cool with me, Kevin. My two cats are adopted from a 'no-kill' adoption center too. KittenRescue.org (please donate, I do). Another good one is JustCatsRescue.org (please donate, I do).

Unfortunately, Max died of feline diabetes ... He was my first pet ever, 'cuz my FATHER would have
nothing to DO with pets ... Max was a mix of Persian and Maine Coon, and so he was BIG and HAIRY ...
I'd upload my favorite pic of him if I knew how to (yeah, 4.0) ... Anyway, when I bought the "Everest"
diagnostics program (lavalys.com) for my DEAR married British friend -- who, BTW, is 60 now, but could
easily out-smoke women 20 years younger -- I "paid" for Everest by becoming a monthly ASPCA donor ...

Anyway, Max was just a beautiful cat ...

Had I lived down the road from you and was still single, I'd be in your driveway right now corrupting your 'nice guy' persona. But sadly I don't. So for now you're home - alone.

Yeah, MacCauley Culkin and all that ... Guess I could really use some "corrupting", huh?

BTW, what IS your status, anyway?  Not tellin'?

You have Jooky to thank for this).

Sorry, lost on me ...

Learn to control these 3 things in you and you'll be able to apply them on command. Then just find your balance. The fact it's easy for you to garner female friends naturally tells me you can at least control most of 'a', some of 'b', and oppresss the 'c'. Learn how to mix these up according to your objective and call upon it on command - and the rest will take care of itself.

Did you mean "suppress" the 'c'?  Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm doing THAT ...

Lastly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with having friends with benefits, you know. It's food for the soul. Our homegrown females will occasionally pay for dinner too. Not too shabby if you ask me...

Never had 'em, GQBlues, never had 'em ... Rare is the friend that I would've even WANTED to ...

There were two girls -- in my entire life -- that I suspected MIGHT actually be "good to go" with me,
but I never tried to take 'em up on it, because I was deathly afraid of sexual rejection ... (Of course,
I DID marry -- still a virgin at the age of 28 -- and several girls since then HAVE been "good to go",
and so we WENT ... Quite uncommon, though, and those were more than five years ago) ...

So have fun out there Kevin, and good luck!

Thanks, GQBlues, but I'm afraid THAT kind of fun just isn't "in the offing" for me these days ...

Folks, do me a favor here, don't go and pull a djgothman on the new guy.. He is trying very hard to learn from you, no need to make it an unpleasant experience for him.. Personally, I had no issue with his profile in its original form, other than the 4.0 GPA line, which as some of you rightly pointed out was irrelevant and confusing.. As for his use of the word fun, aren't you women always going on about how you want your man to have a "good sense of humor"?. Well, I've got news for you, it translates into being fun!

Listing Disney World as one of the interests is not necessarily a bad thing.. Many RW in nwekt's target range- I'm not sure what it is but I suspect it's mid to late 30's- have kids, and this little tidbit will let them know that their kids will have plenty of entertainment..

On the use of smilies, I have been known to use plenty of those in a single post, and not because I'm stupid or insecure either.. In fact, I'm very secure in my use of smilies, and I hope newkt is too.. Newkt, don't let these people intimidate you, do what you think you must and pretty soon you'll stop caring about others' opinions of yourself so much..

Thanks for the support there, possum ... I see YOU'RE up early, TOO (USA) ...

I meant to include you in the list of those who've befriended me on here ...

Kevin