Why are y'all really looking for RW?

[Daveman]

And, I agree. AW (and Canadian women) have much more choice. That is why a woman in her mid-twenties in Canada won't be in a rush to get married. Generally, the women who have dreamed of marriage have already found someone by this age and the others will be happy sampling the buffet table of men for years to come. Not quite the case in Russia.... That is why dating for average men is so much easier in Russia. You don't have to be an Adonis, you don't have to be the lady-killer, you just have to be decent, with a respectable job and not too much of an alcoholic.... That will already open many doors with many women in Russia, something that is not the case in North America. If American women had the choices that Russian women had, something tells me they would not be as picky. even in Southern California  :evil:

I don't disagree with this, but doesn't that bring us right back to the other old debate over 'the average guy' and once he removes his Russian Partner from her surroundings, she's likely to see the other options here and want to upgrade?  If a woman "settles" over there, it's unlikely she'll remain happy here.  I guess "love" plays a role of course, but even that goes back to a woman settling for a better situation or 'best available option' may not love her man because he's not really what she wanted in the fist place. 

[veritas]

Said with great certainty by the man who has never actually been to Russia or the FSU, has never actually met any real RW, and didn't even know what borscht was

All true, Misha ... But you're still seriously trying to tell me that there are tons of attractive RW
who are celibate for "months/years" because they can't find acceptable RM to have sex with??

Sorry, dude, I still ain't buyin' it ... For most people, "months/years" would be a very long time ...

Why don't you expound upon how this can possibly be?  Perhaps you'll be able to convince me ...

Kevin

[Eduard]

Eduard, I'm not bagging on you, man.

oh yes, you are. At least be honest!

I'm sure you're a cool dude. But you need to seriously look over your platform. Lose the phocking videos, man. It bodes so lowly of you, the women, and YOUR clients. That approach have very little difference on context with an escort service or DoctorLove's.

What are you smoking, dude???

You're simply marketing meat, dude. That's all you're doing. That's all those videos were and are. There's absolutely NOTHING remotely redeeming about any of it's contents and it is blatantly reflective of you - your clients who bought into these videos, and MOST importantly, the women you are directly selling out on on the pretext you're only in it 'to help people out!  

Again, what are you smoking, dude? The only thing that I market is my translation, consulting, wing man and logistics coordination services. I don't market women or men. They are always in direct communication with each other using me only as translator and advisor. And when a woman speaks english they only use me a small percentage of the time if there is a misunderstanding or another problem. How is that "selling women out"??? It sounds like you have very little understanding of what I do. I've had practically all women who married my clients send me thank you notes. I'm not gonna search through old emails right now but here is an excerpt from one that my wife got just the other day from a girl that they made online friends with that we just visited with my client:
"Впечатления от встречи с ******* самые наилучшие))) Мне он очень, очень сильно понравился))) Спасибо огромное Эдуарду за помощь при переводе, и за отличное чувство юмора)
Они конечно в шоке были немного   от нашей российской действительности)))
******* очень галатный, очень внимательный и заботливый, очень начитанный, в общем, не мужчина, а просто сказка))) боюсь сильно влюбиться))))

Now does that sound like a woman who feels "used" or "sold"?

It's too seedy, man. It's like selling folks heroin on the basis you only want to make them feel good. It's offensive and very disrespectful to Russian women, to the men married to RWs, and to Russia as a whole.  

What you are doing here is too seedy, man. You are dumping on me and my service for no reason and with no basis in fact. I help people find their soulmate and create a loving family, and you are comparing me to a heroin pusher?? Why don't you read what my former clients say instead of just making up this slanderous crap?

Lastly, if you do come to your senses and make new videos - chose a guy who won't suck on his teeth during a meal, slobber over uncomfortable captive women, and one who won't burp on camera without blinking an eye.

Do you volanteer? It's very easy to be critical of some one else, but I wonder what you are going to look like on the video...ever thought of that? At least that guy had guts to be on the video, the only guy to date that agreed to do it. How about we do a video of you and let the world discuss what you look and act like? What you say? Your response is not hard to guess though...

[tim 360]

If Joe Loser from Bumphocked, Alabama moved to the beaches of SoCal, I guarantee you the number of barbies he'll be surrounded wth is likely in the 100/1,000 fold compared to what he had working for him in picturesque, 'Bama. He may strut the sands between his toes and try playing with the Malibu Barbies - but guess what, he'll find out he's as much Joe Loser in SoCal as he was in Bumphocked, Alabama.

Only this time, he's got MORE Barbies telling him to shop Walmart. That was the point.

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It's too seedy, man. It's like selling folks heroin on the basis you only want to make them feel good. It's offensive and very disrespectful to Russian women, to the men married to RWs, and to Russia as a whole.

Lastly, if you do come to your senses and make new videos - chose a guy who won't suck on his teeth during a meal, slobber over uncomfortable captive women, and one who won't burp on camera without blinking an eye.

True GQ, some Barbies will have higher/lower standards depending on their geographical and cultural locale and it's only natural.  In Alabama the beach Barbies there may well have lower expectations than the SoCal fauna who have higher requirements for their nurturing.  Thus, in Alabama--your 'Bama guy who strikes out in SoCal could possibly get on base in Alabama.

Gotta agree on Ed's video--really needs some work. 

But, I do shop at Walmart once a month and once in a while I do see some very good looking women there.   But I never shop there later than 8AM so I might be missing the Big Show. 

[Eduard]

I don't disagree with this, but doesn't that bring us right back to the other old debate over 'the average guy' and once he removes his Russian Partner from her surroundings, she's likely to see the other options here and want to upgrade?  If a woman "settles" over there, it's unlikely she'll remain happy here.  I guess "love" plays a role of course, but even that goes back to a woman settling for a better situation or 'best available option' may not love her man because he's not really what she wanted in the fist place. 

Dave, this depends on a woman. If she is truly attracted to the guy, not just physically but on all levels, she is not going to look for better options automatically, simply because now she has many more options. However if the couple doesn't have kids together (having kids together really takes love for each other to the whole new level and she loves you not only as a man but also as a father of her children), finds out that they don't share common interests, and life just becomes this monotonous daily routine, then sure, anything can happen, feelings might change... having financial problems can only add more stress on a relationship. But guess what? This is true for any relationship whether a woman is from the US, Russia, Argentina, Mexico, France or Germany

[Misha]

All true, Misha ... But you're still seriously trying to tell me that there are tons of attractive RW
who are celibate for "months/years" because they can't find acceptable RM to have sex with??

Not every woman wants to have an affair with a married man. Not every woman is into one night stands. Some actually expect a minimum of attention before they will jump into the sack with just any man. They will even look for men that they are potential husbands and not only lovers. And, yes, for these women, they may go months (or more) without finding anybody appropriate, even if they are attractive.   

Sorry, dude, I still ain't buyin' it ... For most people, "months/years" would be a very long time ...

Listen dude, I don't care whether you buy it or not. The fact of the matter, in my experience, there are plenty of women who have not had much or the right kind of male attention and would be happy to overlook perfection if they could at least find a decent guy who was giving them attention. 

Why don't you expound upon how this can possibly be?  Perhaps you'll be able to convince me ...

Dude, go to Russia or anywhere and figure it out for yourself  My experience is simple: I was able to go to Russia and date lots of women with ease that would not have been possible back home in Canada. I don't care whether you believe me or not

[Eduard]

Not every woman wants to have an affair with a married man. Not every woman is into one night stands. Some actually expect a minimum of attention before they will jump into the sack with just any man. They will even look for men that they are potential husbands and not only lovers. And, yes, for these women, they may go months (or more) without finding anybody appropriate, even if they are attractive.   

Listen dude, I don't care whether you buy it or not. The fact of the matter, in my experience, there are plenty of women who have not had much or the right kind of male attention and would be happy to overlook perfection if they could at least find a decent guy who was giving them attention. 

Dude, go to Russia or anywhere and figure it out for yourself  My experience is simple: I was able to go to Russia and date lots of women with ease that would not have been possible back home in Canada. I don't care whether you believe me or not

well said, Misha! Kevin, you should take his advice and go spend a few months living in Russia...and you may even surprise yourself how well you will do with local women over there! But do learn Russian before you go.

[facetrock]

 Kevin what the hell, your unemployed and with nothing better to do so why not go visit Russia for a few months. Wont cost you anymore to live there than here. You also have a 4.0 GPA so learning Russian should be easy.

[veritas]

Dude, go to Russia or anywhere and figure it out for yourself  

Hmmmmmmm ... Very clever explanation there, especially the ... I don't think I can top THAT ...

Kevin, you should take his advice and go spend a few months living in Russia...and you may even surprise yourself how well you will do with local women over there! But do learn Russian before you go.

Thanks, Eduard, for a more civil and polite (although far less clever) explanation ...

Kevin what the hell, your unemployed and with nothing better to do so why not go visit Russia for a few months. Wont cost you anymore to live there than here. You also have a 4.0 GPA so learning Russian should be easy.

Well, that makes three in a row ... Thanks, facetrock ...

Kevin

[Misha]

Well, that makes three in a row ...

Doing something to improve one's life is always preferable to wallowing in self-pity 

[facetrock]

  Kevin do you have a passport?

[veritas]

Doing something to improve one's life is always preferable to wallowing in self-pity 

Sorry, Misha, but this particular thread isn't actually about ME ... You must be thinking of that OTHER one ...

Kevin do you have a passport?

Nope ... I've never needed one ...

Kevin

[veritas]

Look, I do appreciate y'all's suggestions that I go to the FSU, but that's just NOT in the works,
for a variety of reasons that have been explained elsewhere -- I'm not looking for RW or AW ...
I'm just here to read, ask questions, and (occasionally) post opinions ... But thanks anyway ...

And at this point, I will return the floor to "whomever" -- for now ...

Kevin

[Ade]

Look, I do appreciate y'all's suggestions that I go to the FSU, but that's just NOT in the works,
for a variety of reasons that have been explained elsewhere -- I'm not looking for RW or AW ...
I'm just here to read, ask questions, and (occasionally) post opinions ... But thanks anyway ...

wtf? Seriously? Damn dude, you really need to get out more.

[pitbull]

Look, I do appreciate y'all's suggestions that I go to the FSU, but that's just NOT in the works,
for a variety of reasons that have been explained elsewhere -- I'm not looking for RW or AW ...
I'm just here to read, ask questions, and (occasionally) post opinions ... But thanks anyway ...

And at this point, I will return the floor to "whomever" -- for now ...

Kevin

Yeah, right...

And wtf is your active profile doing on Elena's models updated with pictures? And it says "My ideal relationship is one of love, respect, mutual support, fidelity, loyalty, honesty, kindness, compassion, communication, and physical/emotional intimacy"?

Can't help but play a little "keyboard Romeo" game, aren't we? My precious? 

[Jooky]

It isn't the number of Barbies, it's the respective overall life dynamics that makes the dating game relatively easier.

My point is that it's a combination of both.

Your LA example is good one. Hot chicks from all over the country flock there with dreams of being waitressess the next Britney Spears.

The number of Barbies increases but so do their choices.

In Russia there's a higher proportion of hotties (for my tastes) and they have less choices. That makes things better for Joe Average and maybe even gives Joe Loser a shot (maybe).

[Eduard]

My point is that it's a combination of both.

Your LA example is good one. Hot chicks from all over the country flock there with dreams of being waitressess the next Britney Spears.

The number of Barbies increases but so do their choices.

In Russia there's a higher proportion of hotties (for my tastes) and they have less choices. That makes things better for Joe Average and maybe even gives Joe Loser a shot (maybe).

[OlgaH]

As for RWs in Russia having life choices, I can easily understand that RWs today have far more life choices that the RWs of the 90s. As a matter of fact, it is no coincidence that that's likely the reason why the MOBs had been nose diving every year since. RWs today definitely have far more choices in country than they ever have. Just like AWs always had.

I agree with you.  According to the president of Russian micro-financial center Mikhail Mamuta 70% of small business owners in Russia are women. Due to my job in my Siberian city I was dealing not only with the regional, city and district administrations but also with businesses and I have my observation. There are many women on leading position in the administrations. Yes, the number of men on leading positions in heavy industry, coal-mining industry, constructions, transportation business prevail over number of women, but I noticed many women on executive positions as deputies.  The beauty salons, fashion salons, boutiques, advertising, tourist agencies, and so on are mostly run by women. One of our meat processing and packing factories is run by a woman and one of our liqueur factories is also run by a woman, and a bread-baking plant is run by woman as well  an owner of one of large retail trade companies is also a woman, and a very well known in our city architect's company is also run by a woman. Some big supermarkets, trading centers,  restaurants and cafes in our city are run by women. One of my friend had her own small but profitable real agency, she sold her business in the right time when a big real company began to "swallow up" the small agencies. An owner of that real company also is a woman.  Now my friend works in a construction company on a good position and makes no less money. Two days ago she bought a new apartment in a new building in the city center. I think a woman with a desire and more important with a head in the right place can do just fine.  

BTW in 1990s many women began to work as chelnoki - shuttle trading. My other friend also started as "chelnok" in a company of two women, now she has her own boutiques.  

[facetrock]

 Kevin if you have no plans on going to the FSU you should really either get rid of your EM profile like you said you were going to do, or put in your profile you  have no intention of traveling in the forseeable future. Or get away from the keyboard and go get a passport and make some plans. Dont jerk these women around. There are enough keyboard romeos in the world. Be a man, be honest.

[OlgaH]

In Russia there's a higher proportion of hotties (for my tastes) and they have less choices.

Depends what hotties and choices you are talking about.    One day I was sitting in my favorite coffee house and the table close to me was occupied by 19-20 y.o. "hotties" who was enough loud that I became an unintentional witness of their conversation. They were talking about their lovers, how they juggled them, what presents and how much money they got from their "boy friends" and so on.  

[ECOCKS]

Depends what hotties and choices you are talking about.    One day I was sitting in my favorite coffee house and the table close to me was occupied by 19-20 y.o. "hotties" who was enough loud that I became an unintentional witness of their conversation. They were talking about their lovers, how they juggled them, what presents and how much money they got from their "boy friends" and so on.  

Shhhh! You're disrupting the fantasy.   

[Eduard]

I agree with you.  According to the president of Russian micro-financial center Mikhail Mamuta 70% of small business owners in Russia are women. Due to my job in my Siberian city I was dealing not only with the regional, city and district administrations but also with businesses and I have my observation. There are many women on leading position in the administrations. Yes, the number of men on leading positions in heavy industry, coal-mining industry, constructions, transportation business prevail over number of women, but I noticed many women on executive positions as deputies.  The beauty salons, fashion salons, boutiques, advertising, tourist agencies, and so on are mostly run by women. One of our meat processing and packing factories is run by a woman and one of our liqueur factories is also run by a woman, and a bread-baking plant is run by woman as well  an owner of one of large retail trade companies is also a woman, and a very well known in our city architect's company is also run by a woman. Some big supermarkets, trading centers,  restaurants and cafes in our city are run by women. One of my friend had her own small but profitable real agency, she sold her business in the right time when a big real company began to "swallow up" the small agencies. An owner of that real company also is a woman.  Now my friend works in a construction company on a good position and makes no less money. Two days ago she bought a new apartment in a new building in the city center. I think a woman with a desire and more important with a head in the right place can do just fine.  

BTW in 1990s many women began to work as chelnoki - shuttle trading. My other friend also started as "chelnok" in a company of two women, now she has her own boutiques.  

and that's exactly what I was saying to GQ and others.  Furthermore these RW go on vacation to places like Turkey (equals cancun for AW) Egypt and many go travel throughout Western Europe. They do have hobbies and interests like theater, arts, opera, ballet, reading, handmade, sports, gym, etc. etc., so please don't make them into somebody they are not, GQ.

[OlgaH]

This would be one of the reasons why a RW believe that finding a protective man is her best and most secure life choice. AW simply does not need that. She looks for the man because she wants and loves a particular man, and not because she relies on him in case she gets problems.

Particular man?   Oneour friend has a small problem - every time when he dates a woman, AW, the first question she asks is about his annual income   He, a handsome athletic man in his early 40s living in his own home in West Palm Beach, doesn't have any problem with his annual income, but yes he has a problem to find and love a particular woman who first of all would be interested in his personality instead of his income and property.

Do you know how many AWs have a bad credit and some men get to know about it only after marriage?      

[Daveman]

That makes things better for Joe Average and maybe even gives Joe Loser a shot (maybe).

I don't disagree with this either. But, I also think we lose perspective around here a little and toss the "loser" term around a little too freely. Why not define it more precisely?

For example.. is a farmer a loser? How about a truck driver?

who is more important... a doctor who saves 100 lives or a farmer who feeds 1000? (number pulled entirely out of the butt for the sake of discussion)... I'd venture to say that without farmers there wouldn't be much of a need for doctors (or they'd be dead from starvation, after they finished consuming the last of their starving patients)...

Or, who is more important... the "businessman" grocery store owner or the truck drivers who bring the products to market?  Without the truckers, the entire economy would drastically change almost instantaneously.

Policeman or politicians?  

Are all of these average joe's?  

The only "losers" as I see it are those who refuse to work, refuse to participate as  functioning members of society, criminals, abusers of the system.. etc etc...  or those with a sense of "entitlement" to anything not achieved by their own effort.

So, why would the farmer or trucker not be qualified to have a RW? Is he undeserving of RW love and deserving of the "loser" brand?  

What about the category of the computer genius programmer with money coming out his butt but with zero social skills?

What *exactly* is a loser?  what's an "average joe"? define those first so the term has relevance in the discussion.  

[Misha]

Your LA example is good one. Hot chicks from all over the country flock there with dreams of being waitressess the next Britney Spears.

Interestingly, I wonder who they will settle for when the dream goes bust