Operation White Panther

[Patagonie]

I want to add that now the whole territory of France is sliced in different areas shaded with different levels of crimes. 
So the rich are moving guess where, in the safest areas. 
The highest crime areas are spreading to the adjacent areas like a gangrene, 
but it never come back to the other way. 
The vast majority, that will be not a surprise, of the courts is woke.   
The penal system is overflowed and in some case couldn't answer respecting the procedural delays 
Some efforts have been made to recruit more employees in the Justice department 
but the power in general don't like too much Justice when she is going too far his own way 
The biggest guys in our country has suffered from few investigating judges in 2000's
And the trend of the metoo movement is dragging some other to the courts. 
The penal response is generally largely impeded by the philosophy of the Century of the Lumières
which means basically that there is a global empathy for the criminals
and hundreds of associations are here to prevent you to talk about the true reality of the statistics of the crimes
(while Germany is more honest with the truth).
 
A lot of crimes are simply demoted to simple offenses,
Some felonies are never reported because refused by the police forces (it includes the Gendarmerie because
we have two components: a civilian and a military one).   
Some attempts which are punished like the crime (when it is done) are not counted, in particular
So guess what the statistics look not so bad!The government like this sh...t very much! 

[krimster2]

in the beginning of the 20th century, you europeans were VERY anti-immigrant
for example Eastern European Jews were banned from immigrating to the UK in 1905, and to the USA in 1920 as well

why did ya'll change that?
cuz ya'll tried as hard as ya could to kill each other...not once...but twice and wiped out two generations of reproductively fit men
AND on top of that...all you white folks ain't havin children any more
population decline is not good for the economy
business will force the government to "do something"
so that is why Europe became pro-immigrant after 1945

this is why in germany ya got them there "Gastarbeiter"
ya'll got  immigree from yur colonial empire, yurs at least speak some French, unlike the German ones
back in the 90s I was a Gastarbeiter working in Nurnburg at Grundig, a German radio maker
my last name is of yiddish origin, but the German Version is spelled EXACTLY the same
and due to being fair haired and blue eyes, I told them Germans "mein grossvatter war ein Deutscher"
or so I claimed, it worked, I even heard German Jew jokes and laughed along
nobody, and I mean nobody assimilates better than me
I can pretty much go anywhere

ya'll NEED immigration
but EVERYONE seems to have done it the wrong way

here is a zen koan for you to ponder
NOTHING succeeds quite as well as failure

the purpose of such a koan is to transcend dualistic thinking and arrive at a direct understanding
by not seeing the world (if you'll pardon the pun) purely in terms of black and white

[Patagonie]

80% of the penal laws, at least, last 40 years, have been in favor of the offenders and not in favor of the victims   
And now the European Union is also regulating, so these idiots have forbidden searches in jails
So a lot of drugs and telephones are now inundating the cells.   
Consequences: they are not just calling baboushkas, they can ask making pressure on witnesses, order some contracts, and continue their business.   
And thank God for the moment we didn't have case with weapons or not I am aware of.

[Patagonie]

in the beginning of the 20th century, you europeans were VERY anti-immigrant
for example Eastern European Jews were banned from immigrating to the UK in 1905, and to the USA in 1920 as well

why did ya'll change that?
cuz ya'll tried as hard as ya could to kill each other...not once...but twice and wiped out two generations of reproductively fit men
AND on top of that...all you white folks ain't havin children any more
population decline is not good for the economy
business will force the government to "do something"
so that is why Europe became pro-immigrant after 1945

this is why in germany ya got them there "Gastarbeiter"
ya'll got  immigree from yur colonial empire, yurs at least speak some French, unlike the German ones
back in the 90s I was a Gastarbeiter working in Nurnburg at Grundig, a German radio maker
my last name is of yiddish origin, but the German Version is spelled EXACTLY the same
and due to being fair haired and blue eyes, I told them Germans "mein grossvatter war ein Deutscher"
or so I claimed, it worked, I even heard German Jew jokes and laughed along
nobody, and I mean nobody assimilates better than me
I can pretty much go anywhere

ya'll NEED immigration
but EVERYONE seems to have done it the wrong way

here is a zen koan for you to ponder
NOTHING succeeds quite as well as failure

the purpose of such a koan is to transcend dualistic thinking and arrive at a direct understanding
by not seeing the world (if you'll pardon the pun) purely in terms of black and white

   
Grunding? I remind this brand crystal clear, my father was listening to the radio on a Grunding. And a nice one. 
   
Yep, I didn't write about immigration yet but that's a big one. 
 
After WW2 we had a first peak due to the war in Algeria. French coming back and pro French Algerian (harkis) immigrated during this time to france until the peace in 1962.
   
But immigration has continued to grow since this time. More than half of this immigration is coming from South Europe (Italian,Spanish, Portugal most of the time) plus Asia. They integrate well in the society and don't create problems.The rest if coming from Africa, especially Maghreb. The problems arise with Maghrebians, especially the last young generations who are in a mid culture.   
 
For sure, as many countries, the population is older, but natality was not so bad in France. 
But of course some want a lot of immigration so the price of the workforce is low. Is the workforce wants to have low wages?
That's another question (compare to other "developped" countries in Europe our wages are quite low).

[krimster2]

Grundig was a top brand name...like RCA in America
both of these firms ended up shutting down their own factories in their host country and moved production to china, then they moved product design and engineering to china
Grundig and RCA are now just "brand names" for marketing purposes that sell Chinese goods
this happened to industry after industry

usually when "some government" does things "not in the best interests of the people"
it's because "special interests" are influencing the government for their own gain

I know nothing of French politics, socio-economics,
in the USA, the struggle is between "the owners" and "the workers"
and this struggle determines the course of government actions

does France still have "Napoleonic Law" - guilty until proven innocent?

Europe is a criminal paradise with good restaurants and interesting places to spend yur money
I loved it

[Patagonie]

Grundig was a top brand name...like RCA in America
both of these firms ended up shutting down their own factories in their host country and moved production to china, then they moved product design and engineering to china
Grundig and RCA are now just "brand names" for marketing purposes that sell Chinese goods
this happened to industry after industry

usually when "some government" does things "not in the best interests of the people"
it's because "special interests" are influencing the government for their own gain

I know nothing of French politics, socio-economics,
in the USA, the struggle is between "the owners" and "the workers"
and this struggle determines the course of government actions

does France still have "Napoleonic Law" - guilty until proven innocent?

Europe is a criminal paradise with good restaurants and interesting places to spend yur money
I loved it

   
No we normally work under the principle innocent until proven guilty.
But feminists are trying to torpedo this principle, the Constitution and 236 years of fights to etablish a stable political system and a justice as fair as possible.     
They want the principle of precaution, which simply consists to harm the men as soon there is the beginning of an accusation of any kind.     
In practice, he is not able to work, to study, to do business, to talk... He is cancelled first basically.   
And they try to supersede the justice by infiltrating any organizations they could and making some parallel justice, out of the law. So they want to step in the trade unions, in the political parties, some schools or universities now and they would like as much as possible to step in private companies and in the public services.
   
You want to destroy your boss and you are a woman? Just say to the monitoring committee (composed exclusively of women of course) that he has made some sexual advances on you.
You are a man and a woman made some sexual advances on you? Strangely the file will disappear. It couldn't be this way.   
Want to know more? read "La terreur violette" by Pablo Adam on Amazon     
   
I think Krim that you have already a clear picture of that because it has been working the same way in North America.

[Patagonie]

So about the USA 
I have spent a decent amount of time studying how work the penal system and law enforcement.
I came to the conclusion
that for my safety
for my mental and physical health
and my money
   
That I don't even want to put a step on the US soil.
So you are right by saying "guilty until proven innocent"

[krimster2]

poor people are at a BIG disadvantage in the USA, so DON't be poor
so are stupid people, worse to be poor and stupid, so DON't be stupid

smart people work in their own business
and semi-legally hide a large percentage of their assets in off-shore shell corporations that the courts can't access
I ALWAYS carry a small voice recorder for dictation, sometimes I "forget to turn it off"
so if there is ever a "she said, he said" conflict, I can press "PLAY" and everyone can hear EXACTLY what she said

I can legally carry a concealed handgun in texas, and I own many, I also legally own silencers
I can also legally carry a knife of any blade length, so long as it is visible
I also KNOW how to interact properly with police, I NEVER have problems from them, because I AM EXTREMELY polite and cooperative
also helps being an older "white gentleman"
behave and talk like a gentleman, and generally that's how you're treated (wearing a viet nam veteran hat helps)

I give off a "menacing vibe" because I genuinely am a high functioning paranoid schizophrenic, and MOST people leave me the hell alone,
it's a REALLY big mistake to piss off someone like me, you won't even know I'm mad when I phuque you up

now I am old and takre naps
a retired "wise guy"

being a black market entrepreneur is about the only growth industry I see that's open to newcomers
this is why my family got into "bootlegging" during prohibition
using the poultry farm as cover for an illegal distillery
they used the profits from that to create the "Hellman's Mayonaise Brand" and sold it out a long time ago to a corporate food conglomerate and now it's Chinese owned

I kinda did what they did, but I just chose a different more contemporary product line
my Great Uncles (grandfather's brothers) were the backbone of the Philly Jewish Mob, and were the wisest men I ever met
they were my first teachers

no one in my family will be following in my foot steps
I am the last of my kind

le juif errant are no more
they became generic
which is what they always wanted
but I see now, that this was a mistake

[Patagonie]

poor people are at a BIG disadvantage in the USA, so DON't be poor
so are stupid people, worse to be poor and stupid, so DON't be stupid

smart people work in their own business
and semi-legally hide a large percentage of their assets in off-shore shell corporations that the courts can't access
I ALWAYS carry a small voice recorder for dictation, sometimes I "forget to turn it off"
so if there is ever a "she said, he said" conflict, I can press "PLAY" and everyone can hear EXACTLY what she said

I can legally carry a concealed handgun in texas, and I own many, I also legally own silencers
I can also legally carry a knife of any blade length, so long as it is visible
I also KNOW how to interact properly with police, I NEVER have problems from them, because I AM EXTREMELY polite and cooperative
also helps being an older "white gentleman"
behave and talk like a gentleman, and generally that's how you're treated (wearing a viet nam veteran hat helps)

I give off a "menacing vibe" because I genuinely am a high functioning paranoid schizophrenic, and MOST people leave me the hell alone,
it's a REALLY big mistake to piss off someone like me, you won't even know I'm mad when I phuque you up

now I am old and takre naps
a retired "wise guy"

being a black market entrepreneur is about the only growth industry I see that's open to newcomers
this is why my family got into "bootlegging" during prohibition
using the poultry farm as cover for an illegal distillery
they used the profits from that to create the "Hellman's Mayonaise Brand" and sold it out a long time ago to a corporate food conglomerate and now it's Chinese owned

I kinda did what they did, but I just chose a different more contemporary product line
my Great Uncles (grandfather's brothers) were the backbone of the Philly Jewish Mob, and were the wisest men I ever met
they were my first teachers

no one in my family will be following in my foot steps
I am the last of my kind

le juif errant are no more
they became generic
which is what they always wanted
but I see now, that this was a mistake

 
   
Hi Krim, interesting story.
Yes in such countries, you better to have assets that the courts can't acess but it works only if you are not poor. 
That the same now in Europe, you better to have some stuff outside Europe.
   
I have seen many workers having some hidden recorders in their office now, especially men. Of course you want to protect your ass.
Few years ago they have forbiden any tools capable to record on your phone the ongoing conversation in Europe. 
A big mistake IMHO if you want to protect yourself with the Metoo mainstream that drags a lot of false accusations now.
As you said what had been said had been said. It can save your ass. Even if recording or filming without the consent of the person is a felony here. You prefer a litte felony rather than years in jail or few years of your life ruined by a stupid trial. 

[Patagonie]

Let me explain you my version
   
First we have seen that, for the last 40 years, there have been no real willingness to control criminality.
Second we have seen arise a wave of terrorism attacks that started late in 2015.
   
Why the first, why the second?
   
First it's for obvious electoral reasons, not only that the power wants the vote of the people coming from the immigration but he also didn't want to upset the traditional ultra left and left (called left caviar). Additionally I think they are our democratic system limits the action of a key leader and prevents him to spread vertically and horizontally a policy that will land to some real results. 
   
Second you need to remember that at this moment ISIS had been born and the creation of a new califat for some muslims encouraged some believers all over the world to join the movement.   Charia plus Djihad. 
   
Djihad could be performed everywhere in the world. But why the ISIS ended to control a large territory between Irak and Syria? (including the second major cities like Raqua and Mossoul).     
     
 Because when USA left Irak they let the power to the religious majority , the Chiites (65%). The Chiites power started to oppress the minority, the Sunnites. In response, after a while, some ultras emerged helped by some officers from the Saddam Hussein army. And then the story of the ISIS started.

[Patagonie]

But to go further we need to remind a case named Mohamed Merah in 2012.
To make it short he killed several people, jews especially and was finally KIA after a long siege of 32 hours.
He was a djihadist. 
   
The Interior Ministry wanted him alive. He thought that he will score some political points.
Let me tell how it works IMHO, how the points are scored from a terrorist point of view:
Average Joe killed 1 point     
Each hour you are on every national TV 1 point, 2 points if you are on internation TV       
Elite special forces wounded 5 points   
Elite special forces killed  20 points   
Officer or high representatives of the gouvernement killed  10 points   
And so on, so you understand the principle       
     
But this minister didn't get the grid, he was an humanist ( )     
So this djihadist fought like a lion and scored a lot of points before elimination.             
He became a hero, a martyr, that inspired the following contenders for terrorist attacks
Who came, in France, in late 2015, 
   
What do you want to do, normally, you want to shoot him asap KIA during the assault, no losses, no TV if possible, a bag and that's all. All of this in legitimate defense of course. 

[krimster2]

the arab population of France is a small minority, I can't see their votes as being enough to persuade French politicians to support Islamification, based solely on their numbers
from the news, I don't see a lot of native French citizens supporting the islamification of France either
so why then?
I remember some old French currency I saw long ago when it was Francs and not euros
there was a note that depicted multi-racial French Colonial members, I don't remember the denomination
to show that France is just one big happy family with all races in harmony

was it just misguided idealism
or a deeper reason for this, I don't know

we have similar contemporary "racial problems" here in the USA
when I was a little boy, I went to a white-only school, but that was forcibly changed by the government

the problem is, we STILL ended up living in an almost completely segregated society, with a lot of discrimination from white society which contributed to the degradation of other non-whites
lack of education, employment, housing etc

the path of upward mobility is blocked for some races more than others in the USA, more of a "barrier to entry"
and this is what led to people dropping out and turning to crime
cuz they had no other choice

I kinda think you may have the same problem in France
obstacles to assimilation leads to segregation, segregation leads to dysfunction like crime and radicalization

the French melting Pot for mixing human alloys to pour into a mold to make a new Frenchman
has failed to work, just like the American one, and no one has any ideas for how to fix it
and in my opinion, no one is really trying to fix it
because it's become a "racial conflict", instead of a social-economic one
 
what kinda wages, do you French expect with a 35 hour work week, etc
80 hour weeks were the norm for me, in the USA or Israel
of course we got paid more, a 35 hour week would be a part-time job for us
I'd have two jobs at least in that situation

[Patagonie]

the arab population of France is a small minority, I can't see their votes as being enough to persuade French politicians to support Islamification, based solely on their numbers
from the news, I don't see a lot of native French citizens supporting the islamification of France either
so why then?
I remember some old French currency I saw long ago when it was Francs and not euros
there was a note that depicted multi-racial French Colonial members, I don't remember the denomination
to show that France is just one big happy family with all races in harmony

was it just misguided idealism
or a deeper reason for this, I don't know

we have similar contemporary "racial problems" here in the USA
when I was a little boy, I went to a white-only school, but that was forcibly changed by the government

the problem is, we STILL ended up living in an almost completely segregated society, with a lot of discrimination from white society which contributed to the degradation of other non-whites
lack of education, employment, housing etc

the path of upward mobility is blocked for some races more than others in the USA, more of a "barrier to entry"
and this is what led to people dropping out and turning to crime
cuz they had no other choice

I kinda think you may have the same problem in France
obstacles to assimilation leads to segregation, segregation leads to dysfunction like crime and radicalization

the French melting Pot for mixing human alloys to pour into a mold to make a new Frenchman
has failed to work, just like the American one, and no one has any ideas for how to fix it
and in my opinion, no one is really trying to fix it
because it's become a "racial conflict", instead of a social-economic one
 
what kinda wages, do you French expect with a 35 hour work week, etc
80 hour weeks were the norm for me, in the USA or Israel
of course we got paid more, a 35 hour week would be a part-time job for us
I'd have two jobs at least in that situation

   
I am sorry Krim but I would be more accurate with the words you are using. 
Most of immigrants are not Arabs. Iranian are not arab they are Persian, Before arabs conquered North Africa the population were known are berberians, barbares also named berbères.   
So use simply muslims.   
And a lot of muslims are not arab, Pakistan, Indonesia.
   
And they are not a small number but 5.4 millions, so believe me, during an election no one want to miss 5 millions of votes. As I have explained, so if you don't want to harm also the pro-immigration french people you understand that you play with a lot of ballots.
   
Also number of muslims and islamification shouldn't be mathematically correlated. There is islamification if more muslims are presents in the same country, but islamification is more an active process that should be prevented in a country like France because of the main principle of the consitution is that religion is totally separated from the policy and the power.
     
That's the theory, because in reality there are some porosity due to the woke wave who have let the muslim religion to have some leverage on the civilian society, and this have gone too far. This is where the danger is. 
 
But I largely do agree on what you say 
"the French melting Pot for mixing human alloys to pour into a mold to make a new Frenchman
has failed to work, just like the American one, and no one has any ideas for how to fix it 
and in my opinion, no one is really trying to fix it 
because it's become a "racial conflict", instead of a social-economic one"
   
French society is adapting now, to make differences of non native people as prevalent rules, to the behalf of our previous way of functioning, which therefore is an obstacle for assimilation of strangers. We are helping somehow segregation and radicalization. 
   
About 35 hours you are right, but a lot of people are working really more than this, only employees perform 35 hours. Managers, entrepreneurs, farmers, a lot of  people work really more. And we have a productivity like in the US.

[krimster2]

yeah, yur right, shoulda said muslim instead of arab, easy to conflate

i'm guessing that this is partly the reason you want to move from France?
my advice, it's easier to shield yourself from those pesky pasty-faced French liberals, than it is to find and move to a new country like Hungary, etc

for example, in the USA I live in a gated community "White Only + a couple of asian doctors"
we have a "neighborhood watch"
a couple of years ago, some ghetto gangstas tried jumping the fence
were up to good
makin trouble in my neighborhood

they triggered a burglary alarm
from every house, an old man with a shotgun came out, even from my house, but he was handsome in a distinguished sorta way, and it was a nice lookin Benneli 12 GA
they were caught and handed over to the po-leece by 20 geezers with shotguns without a shot being fired

so if you have a local problem of this nature
be proactive and start yur own "self defense" neighborhood watch
someone like you would make a great organizer, doncha think so?

when my kids went to school, I was a volunteer school patrol officer
we were called "Cougar Dads"
the most EXTREME part of this "job", if I saw that a "school shooter" was on campus, I was to radio the alarm, and I would confront them, and hopefully delay them enough for the school to prepare

I had no problem with sacrificing myself to save the kids, and not just my own
by Federal Law, we are not allowed to carry a weapon on school property"
we all respected this
and we all stood ready to sacrifice ourselves
knowing that me and others like me, were willing to die if necessary to save our kids
let us stand above the fear

rather than retreating from it
I suggest the opposite, get involved in politics, support those you think can change things
see if your neighbors feel the same as you and think about the neighborhood watch
seek community and not isolation
you will feel better