Women with Children - more strongly worded advice

[Southpaw1982]

You did say he was safe to be around kids. Can we have another "It's water under the bridge" announcement and everybody move on for the sake of your son? At the rate you're both going, you're going to be really hating each other.

He is. At some point he was careless where he left his links until I called CPS. I just think he has an issue he needs to address and take care of. That is all. I don't care what he does, it is his business. I am through with it. My son knows better too. But, I don't like when people try to cover up their a** when they know they screwed up. Gotta man up and say "I am sorry" .  See, I never have a problem with learning from a mistake and admitting I screwed up. Nobody is perfect.

[jmana]

Those print outs you had of a male taking number 2 on a woman"s face...and a bunch of men taking a pee on a girl and putting frogs into her lady parts...Please don't make me list all the other favorite websites of yours...Because that is embarrassing and the links you left on your phone, then gave it to my son for use? I have snap shots and I sent them a Raleigh DA. I am hoping you are not like that anymore.
I am trying to forget this. Let's be nice...

Um, you're ridiculous.  The phone I gave him was used, how the hell was I to know what was on it?  And you're the one who let him watch porn while you slept.... 

[Southpaw1982]

Um, you're ridiculous.  The phone I gave him was used, how the hell was I to know what was on it?  And you're the one who let him watch porn while you slept....

It used to be your phone, because there is my name listed in contacts with my phone number with a word "bitch" next to it ( I have the pictures to prove.) ...and you gave it to my son...Wow! Besides, even if it was bought used, you should have been checking it before giving it to the child ( Just shows how careful you are lol) PLUS, he searched for porn at your house first ( according to the dates in his internet history... and if I was a primal parent, this would never happen...How can you imagine me, before taking a nap ( we all suppose to take a nap after 9 hour drive) put him in front of computer and tell him to watch this crap after being traumatized myself. Are you kidding me? Not my fault that your Asian gf woke him up to Skype with him, then he surfed the net... Where did the child get these ideas from? Bingo, he lives with his daddy!  lol   Please stop this and be glad you did not get locked up in jail again. You got lucky, maybe it is time to get some help. Have fun with whatever it is you are into now. God sees everything. Call me whatever all you want, I am not stooping down to your level. You are not my problem anymore. And our kid is a paycheck for you. You are a sad man.
Please teach the kid some cursive writing and go shoot some basketball with him ( like my new husband does)  instead of having him sit on his butt in front of TV.

[TheTraveler]

don't you just wish alina would find her way to this forum?!!   

[Southpaw1982]

don't you just wish alina would find her way to this forum?!!   

I do , after they get married I think they are so perfect for each other though...He just needs to stop complaining... and just be happy already

[jmana]

It used to be your phone, because there is my name listed in contacts with my phone number with a word "bitch" next to it ( I have the pictures to prove.) ...and you gave it to my son...Wow! Besides, even if it was bought used, you should have been checking it before giving it to the child ( Just shows how careful you are lol) PLUS, he searched for porn at your house first ( according to the dates in his internet history... and if I was a primal parent, this would never happen...How can you imagine me, before taking a nap ( we all suppose to take a nap after 9 hour drive) put him in front of computer and tell him to watch this crap after being traumatized myself. Are you kidding me? Not my fault that your Asian gf woke him up to Skype with him, then he surfed the net... Where did the child get these ideas from? Bingo, he lives with his daddy!  lol   Please stop this and be glad you did not get locked up in jail again. You got lucky, maybe it is time to get some help. Have fun with whatever it is you are into now. God sees everything. Call me whatever all you want, I am not stooping down to your level. You are not my problem anymore. And our kid is a paycheck for you. You are a sad man.
Please teach the kid some cursive writing and go shoot some basketball with him ( like my new husband does)  instead of having him sit on his butt in front of TV.

I'm not replying to you anymore after this, because it's not worth it, but I just want to point out to the fine people on this forum that you conveniently erased the history on his computer as soon as you found him looking at porn at your house, then claimed he had been looking at it before.  But when he got home I installed a program to undelete the history and found he had never looked at it, until the day he arrived at your place.  Then you had the nerve to call child services on me, based on a lie.  I should have been the one calling them on you because he never saw that crap till he was at your place.  And once I showed them the undeleted history and how the dates matched up they realized what I was dealing with.  And good for you, your hubby of the year played basketball with him, did you ever think to ask if he even likes basketball??  Because he doesn't.  He probably went along with it because he was probably just so happy to not be stuck at your office all day.  I mean who has their kid for 5 days and does nothing with him?  You live an hour and half from Disney and you couldn't take one day off to spend with him?  You lugged him to your work every day, and the only "event" you took him to was your "wedding"?!  Sorry, but you're the one coming her acting like you're a saint and I'm the one in the wrong, but it's not that way at all.   

[ML]

So there !!!

[Daveman]

Yes, this is clearly all water under the bridge...   

[Southpaw1982]

I'm not replying to you anymore after this, because it's not worth it, but I just want to point out to the fine people on this forum that you conveniently erased the history on his computer as soon as you found him looking at porn at your house, then claimed he had been looking at it before.  But when he got home I installed a program to undelete the history and found he had never looked at it, until the day he arrived at your place.  Then you had the nerve to call child services on me, based on a lie.  I should have been the one calling them on you because he never saw that crap till he was at your place.  And once I showed them the undeleted history and how the dates matched up they realized what I was dealing with.  And good for you, your hubby of the year played basketball with him, did you ever think to ask if he even likes basketball??  Because he doesn't.  He probably went along with it because he was probably just so happy to not be stuck at your office all day.  I mean who has their kid for 5 days and does nothing with him?  You live an hour and half from Disney and you couldn't take one day off to spend with him?  You lugged him to your work every day, and the only "event" you took him to was your "wedding"?!  Sorry, but you're the one coming her acting like you're a saint and I'm the one in the wrong, but it's not that way at all.

I have screen shots. The DA has them! CPS told me to follow up with DA and I consulted to an attorney as well. They all predicted you to be in a denial. All addicts are.  You erased the history to cover your a**. So your stupid undelete software is not worth the dime, the fact remains- you exposed my kid to porn...
 So, are you trying to say that I love porn??...LOL    Kidding, right? Lying is not helping you, dude. I will post the screen shots along with your police reports.
How I spend my time with my son is irrelevant to how screwed up your brain is.  So what I took him in with me in the office, it rained all week, we could not do much outdoors and who the f are those "fine people" you are trying to impress?  LOL Kid needs activity. I don't want him to be a loser and a porn addict.
 Like I said, I will play nice if you are.  Our son also told me you get really mad when he says something nice about me, so he tells you what you want to hear, because you are not abuser at all. Like I said, you are not my problem anymore, thank God.

[ML]

So there !!

[BillyB]

Southpaw and Jmana. The majority of folks here would love for you two to air out your dirty laundry because you will provide us with entertainment value but what do you benefit from it? Grow up and move on with your lives! Quit pointing fingers on who's fault it was for the breakup of your marriage. You both have a son to raise and during visitation exchanges he needs to see both of you interact with each other much better than you're acting here.

[ML]

Many here are always pining to hear the other side of the story.

Now it is obvious why this is not a good idea; i.e. hearing from both parties.

Much better if only one party tells the story from their point of view . . . and then other 3rd party posters here can be counted on to tell the other side of the story . . . without making it quite this messy.

And, in that preferred scenario, there is some chance that the two parties can actually interact (off of websites) in relative harmony since they will not know of what is being said about them.

In this current situation, it has greatly diminished the chance that Jama  and Southpaw can have an amicable relationship to raise their child.

[Southpaw1982]

Southpaw and Jmana. The majority of folks here would love for you two to air out your dirty laundry because you will provide us with entertainment value but what do you benefit from it? Grow up and move on with your lives! Quit pointing fingers on who's fault it was for the breakup of your marriage. You both have a son to raise and during visitation exchanges he needs to see both of you interact with each other much better than you're acting here.

Growing up means admitting your mistakes and weaknesses, not cover them up and sweep them under the rug... I am GLAD that "marriage" is over! I was willing to take the beating from my second boyfriend after I left jmana, just because bruises can heal, but the mental damage was going to be even more devastating if I stayed.  I had to keep my mind clear. That is what got me through. I must admit, that I will NEVER understand how such creatures can live with themselves. All I know, I don't have to deal with this. I feel sorry for my kid.

[CanadaMan]

Many here are always pining to hear the other side of the story.

Now it is obvious why this is not a good idea; i.e. hearing from both parties.

Ummm...

Usually the "other side of the story" pertains to the current love interest of the poster, in this case Alina.
Alina was the 'other side of the story' for most of this post.

[Muzh]

Southpaw and Jmana. The majority of folks here would love for you two to air out your dirty laundry because you will provide us with entertainment value but what do you benefit from it? Grow up and move on with your lives! Quit pointing fingers on who's fault it was for the breakup of your marriage. You both have a son to raise and during visitation exchanges he needs to see both of you interact with each other much better than you're acting here.

Yeah, but what about the porn?

[Muzh]

Growing up means admitting your mistakes and weaknesses, not cover them up and sweep them under the rug... I am GLAD that "marriage" is over! I was willing to take the beating from my second boyfriend after I left jmana, just because bruises can heal, but the mental damage was going to be even more devastating if I stayed.  I had to keep my mind clear. That is what got me through. I must admit, that I will NEVER understand how such creatures can live with themselves. All I know, I don't have to deal with this. I feel sorry for my kid.

SP, I tend to believe your story more than jmana for the simple fact that women, in general, are turned off by porn. I can see your POV and at such young age I can imagine it was nerve-wracking to say the least.

[Slumba]

I am sorry for my part in stirring the pot.

I apologize to both jmana and southpaw and recommend "radio silence" on some of these issues - not because the train wreck and TMI isn't funny/interesting to read, it certainly is - but because it won't help either of you to have aired whatever issues remain in front of strangers, even if it is just virtual strangers on the Internet.

No doubt whatever happened is a continual irritant since the child you two have keeps the issues in play.

There seems to be some anger on both sides - I would say to you, from the benefit of my own experience, that holding on to anger is not something that will benefit you.  Find a way to deal with it, dissipate it, get rid of it.

[jmana]

SP, I tend to believe your story more than jmana for the simple fact that women, in general, are turned off by porn. I can see your POV and at such young age I can imagine it was nerve-wracking to say the least.

Oh yes, she is so innocent    She already told you she was a friggen stripper    Love that, oh I am so turned off by porn, but let me get completely naked and grind some old fat dude's dick, that's completely harmless, LOL!

[Daveman]

Awww, come on.  Have you (two) never been mellow???


Oooops, I forgot we were talking about the B side...   speaking of wild fantasies.. this was my Babe on the Brain for a couple of years.. 

[Southpaw1982]

Oh yes, she is so innocent    She already told you she was a friggen stripper    Love that, oh I am so turned off by porn, but let me get completely naked and grind some old fat dude's dick, that's completely harmless, LOL!

Because you were a hell of a provider at the time lol . I don't remember the old fat dudes. I remember hot dentists, lawyers and doctors.  They have never seen a naked ballerina before Anything to get away from you; bruises of jealous boyfriends, rough jobs, another abusive marriage...Tremendous gratitude to God for keeping me sane and safe through the rough times. 
My husband knows all about it, so nice try... lol

[Southpaw1982]

SP, I tend to believe your story more than jmana for the simple fact that women, in general, are turned off by porn. I can see your POV and at such young age I can imagine it was nerve-wracking to say the least.

Well, yeah... I was also exploited as an exotic dancer, I did not want to get in too much details, but since he brought it up... I wanted a damn education, he wanted me to keep hurting myself on that damn pole and supporting his a** while he was collecting unemployment...What a great hubby he was
It does not matter now, I got my education and a job where I am not forced to do anything I don't like.

[Slumba]

Because you were a hell of a provider at the time lol .

Were you without food, shelter, and clothing at any point? 

Or is it more that you didn't see an upward trend in economic well-being, happening in the future?

[Daveman]

Were you without food, shelter, and clothing at any point?

Well, we may still conjecture about A and B... 

[GQBlues]

SP, I tend to believe your story more than jmana for the simple fact that women, in general, are turned off by porn. I can see your POV and at such young age I can imagine it was nerve-wracking to say the least.

I do too! But I always had the guy pegged to begin with.

Porn?!? LMAO! Losers...

As for...

Many here are always pining to hear the other side of the story.

Now it is obvious why this is not a good idea; i.e. hearing from both parties.

Much better if only one party tells the story from their point of view . . . and then other 3rd party posters here can be counted on to tell the other side of the story . . . without making it quite this messy.

And, in that preferred scenario, there is some chance that the two parties can actually interact (off of websites) in relative harmony since they will not know of what is being said about them.

In this current situation, it has greatly diminished the chance that Jama  and Southpaw can have an amicable relationship to raise their child.

What are you so afraid of? That your gal will someday find this site and have a different version of your saga?

As for these two....there obviously is still much left to get their respective closure to this. All you cronies are prepared to take the words of any crony that comes by here bitchin' and moanin' about those evil women. I'm glad there is that looming possibility any of these women can find this site and give a voice to the other side of these silly stories...

[Southpaw1982]

Were you without food, shelter, and clothing at any point? 

Or is it more that you didn't see an upward trend in economic well-being, happening in the future?

Well, we could not afford to pay our bills... and his sister was working at this nice club as well... since retail did not pay much, we went for an audition to try. I got hired on the spot! But, I was not going to do it forever without getting my education. There was no upward, not remotely...And it was causing me a lot of stress for my future.