Women with Children - more strongly worded advice

[Southpaw1982]

Oh yes, she is so innocent    She already told you she was a friggen stripper    Love that, oh I am so turned off by porn, but let me get completely naked and grind some old fat dude's dick, that's completely harmless, LOL!

Look, I was innocent before I met you. A virgin. I  lost my virginity and got pregnant on the same damn night. How fun is that?  You effed it all up. Get over it! 

[BillyB]

Well, we could not afford to pay our bills... and his sister was working at this nice club as well... since retail did not pay much, we went for an audition to try. I got hired on the spot!

I would work a number of jobs before I'd let my wife be a stripper. How much did you make per day average? If things get tough, I may need to get a second job.

[CanadaMan]

I am thoroughly confused now.   

I don't know what's more sinful: looking at porn or reading all about it in this thread!   

[Southpaw1982]

I would work a number of jobs before I'd let my wife be a stripper. How much did you make per day average? If things get tough, I may need to get a second job.

Exactly, that is a real man thing to do, Billy!
I only worked on weekends, then during the week I worked at JCPenney. He collected unemployment...

[Southpaw1982]

I am thoroughly confused now.   

I don't know what's more sinful: looking at porn or reading all about it in this thread!   

Ask jmana, lol

[Slumba]

I would work a number of jobs before I'd let my wife be a stripper. How much did you make per day average? If things get tough, I may need to get a second job.

I have only your avatar pic for reference, BillyB ... but I don't think you would earn much as a stripper.  Or do I misunderstand 

[jmana]

Gotta love the delusions of a narcissist! The truth is we had no problems paying for OUR bills, but her parents were constantly nagging us for money and I wasn't going for it, especially after being lied to by her relatives.  So she comes out of the blue and says she wants to try out at the local strip club, I figured what's the harm, she'll do it once and realize it's not for her (plus I've never been one to tell a partner what they can and cannot do).  Well as soon as she realized she could collect cash for doing literally nothing but walking around naked, there was no way to get her out of that place.  I thought moving down here would be the end of it, but apparently not as she posted here that she continued to do it after we got divorced.  And her claim of me being "unemployed" is BS too.  I was never unemployed.  There was a time when I wasn't working 40 hours because of cutbacks but I started a restaurant and built a ballet studio for her to try and get her to do something other than shaking her ass, but she preferred the easy money.  And she'll always paint me as some porn addict because of a few porn sites I looked at, but show me a guy that never looked at porn and I'll show you a liar!  But yes, this is all water under the bridge and I don't know why the hell she keeps stirring this up on a public forum.   Oh, and to add icing to the cake she emails me tonight saying once she has another kid she won't be paying for the one she currently has.  Sorry but it just don't work that way.  She also told the judge last year that she shouldn't have to pay her fair share of child support because she has to pay for birth control and her car, the judge's reaction was comical!  But that's what we're dealing with here, she will paint this picture of her being a saint, and me being a monster, and you all can believe what you want, but I know the truth.

[TheTraveler]

lemme see if i got this straight...

jmana was married to a 20 year old russian ballerina / stripper,...

but he shunned her in favor of masturbating to internet porn?

jmana is in need of counseling.

but the problem is that if counseling cures him, and he begins to prefer sex with an actual live woman, then he'll be stuck with alina -- who is evidently either not attracted to him or herself is fixated on internet sex fantasies with japanese boys.

talk about a conundrum.

[TheTraveler]

...But I always had the guy pegged to begin with.

ditto.

and drawing unemployment while his wife is stripping to pay the bills?

i wish i could mercy ban the guy just to save him from the next chapter of this story.

[GQBlues]

... There was a time when I wasn't working 40 hours because of cutbacks but I started a restaurant and built a ballet studio for her to try and get her to do something other than shaking her ass, but she preferred the easy money....

This, from a coupon king? Yeah right. 

Your story about Alina's preoccupation with Japanese graphics rather pales in comparison to your porn addiction, jmana.

Moreover, the fact you would've rather had seen Alina and her child take a half-day drive through the worst winter seen in years after getting off a 10-hour flight just so you can save a few bucks for avoiding buying the last leg of their flight - AND - currently having an ex-wife doling out $500/mo for child support - yet you found a way to import a woman with a child instead of making sure your child's financial future have a good foundation first - is both irresponsible and selfish of you.

Adding those two together, you can try and convince anyone you're the type of person who would put the welfare of important people in your life ahead of your silly needs doesn't add up. At least not to me.


Another silly side of you is, weren't you going after BillyB in his thread for pursuing a teenager, yet all that time you've been addicted to teen/kiddy porn?

Dude, man...what is up with that?
 

[Southpaw1982]

Gotta love the delusions of a narcissist! The truth is we had no problems paying for OUR bills, but her parents were constantly nagging us for money and I wasn't going for it, especially after being lied to by her relatives.  So she comes out of the blue and says she wants to try out at the local strip club, I figured what's the harm, she'll do it once and realize it's not for her (plus I've never been one to tell a partner what they can and cannot do).  Well as soon as she realized she could collect cash for doing literally nothing but walking around naked, there was no way to get her out of that place.  I thought moving down here would be the end of it, but apparently not as she posted here that she continued to do it after we got divorced.  And her claim of me being "unemployed" is BS too.  I was never unemployed.  There was a time when I wasn't working 40 hours because of cutbacks but I started a restaurant and built a ballet studio for her to try and get her to do something other than shaking her ass, but she preferred the easy money.  And she'll always paint me as some porn addict because of a few porn sites I looked at, but show me a guy that never looked at porn and I'll show you a liar!  But yes, this is all water under the bridge and I don't know why the hell she keeps stirring this up on a public forum.   Oh, and to add icing to the cake she emails me tonight saying once she has another kid she won't be paying for the one she currently has.  Sorry but it just don't work that way.  She also told the judge last year that she shouldn't have to pay her fair share of child support because she has to pay for birth control and her car, the judge's reaction was comical!  But that's what we're dealing with here, she will paint this picture of her being a saint, and me being a monster, and you all can believe what you want, but I know the truth.

What? LOL It is all BS and you don't know shit. Cover your ass all you what it does not change who you are, a bitter miserable man with all sorts of problems and you are twisting everything to cover you.  I feel sorry you, God forgives you. Like i said, you are now Alina's problem, not mine.
Good Lord, and this "person"  is raising my kid...  I don't have a greed problem like you do, you are the one who forced me to go back there every weekend, because you could not afford a food order for your pathetic little taco shop  ( i got that in writing as well, with your signature on it, remember that note? Yeah, that one you were mad about.). NC Judge was not comical, she said she does not cover the custody issues, it was totally irrelevant to child support calculations, so stop making shit up, your talk is cheap and you are beneath me at this point. My man pays for my birth control and i can pay my bills just fine. Looks like you don't.
I don't think I want any more kids, because it will take me a life time to fix my damaged child I already have with you! That poor baby... But that apparently made you jump, because you don't want to get less... huh.... lol  Gotcha! lol (that was a test). People like you suck out of the system, an unproductive human waste, who is going to support you when our kid grows up and my obligation expires? Alina is the next victim? You will snap her kid out and kick her out like you pushed and hurt me? Believe or not it is actually cheaper to pay support, kid eats as much as an adult male
  As far as dancing, I was not going an extra mile for anyone who attends these kinds places, i was making  200- 400 bucks a night on a weekend, it is not really a big money. It was enough to get us by. At least i did not have a drug problem like your sister did, she worked at that club for a while, she went home with these guys, i went home with you to our son. Why doesn't anybody taking her kids away from her? If working as a dancer is so horrible, it needs to be illegal then. Besides, i was helping my mom, I was helping your ass, I was helping with the bills and everybody I could, despite all sorts of limitations and suppression...And after all I am being crapped on, for my honesty... FYI,  I am not afraid what these losers behind the screens think of me  (if they don't see the value of what i am saying)  ...Whatever! ha ha  Public or not, i don't have to cover my ass here, it is what it is. I will say it as it is, whether you like it or not, you are the least of my concerns. You have been to jail, you had police reports filed against you, you had to take anger management class, you were on probation for drug possession etc...Phhhhleeeease, I never called you a monster! I gave you all i had, including a life of a our child and that is how you re-pay me... wow! And you continue trying to screw me over to this day. Go ahead, show them what you have got, hero. I hope this makes you feel better.

I will not make any excuses for myself. I am a fearless mother that wants to help her kid by preventing him from being a loser and a porn addict. That is all. As far as my personal life, I am very happy that I found love. So, it makes it all worth it.

P.S. I was also a ballet dancer for almost 10 years prior coming to US, I have had a very hard time trying to learn to shake ass...My head shakes instead, because the turn out and the hips are formed differently in ballerina's bodies, so shaking ass is very-very difficult and uncomfortable. Just so everyone knows.

[Southpaw1982]

lemme see if i got this straight...


jmana is in need of counseling.

Yes, he needs help...

[Southpaw1982]

This, from a coupon king? Yeah right. 

Your story about Alina's preoccupation with Japanese graphics rather pales in comparison to your porn addiction, jmana.

Moreover, the fact you would've rather had seen Alina and her child take a half-day drive through the worst winter seen in years after getting off a 10-hour flight just so you can save a few bucks for avoiding buying the last leg of their flight - AND - currently having an ex-wife doling out $500/mo for child support - yet you found a way to import a woman with a child instead of making sure your child's financial future have a good foundation first - is both irresponsible and selfish of you.

Adding those two together, you can try and convince anyone you're the type of person who would put the welfare of important people in your life ahead of your silly needs doesn't add up. At least not to me.


Dude, man...what is up with that?

Thank you! Somebody with common sense is like fresh air to me! I must say though, I no longer work a third shift job. I have a college degree, a decent day job, i walked out with no damage, but a nice pare of toned legs. This whole dancing on and off thing was way over and behind me since 2008. I have been doing much better since.

[jmana]

Lies lies lies.  Never had to take "anger management" classes.  Yeah I was on probation, for getting caught with enough pot to roll one joint when I was in my early 20's, wow I'm such a criminal.  Not even on my record anymore, hasn't been for years.  And yeah, I was in a jail, for 9 hours because of it, but boy oh boy does she love to make it seem like I did time!  What a joke..... 

[BillyB]

she emails me tonight saying once she has another kid she won't be paying for the one she currently has. 

Southpaw, I hope that isn't true. Not taking care of your own flesh and blood is worse than anything you claim jmana did. If you're saying that because you're pissed off at jmana for what he's said here, it's best you both call a truce and stop fighting on a public forum. The bigger man or woman would take the first step and announce they won't be saying anything more about the ex and actually mean it. Water under the bridge kind of mean it.

[jmana]

AND - currently having an ex-wife doling out $500/mo for child support - yet you found a way to import a woman with a child instead of making sure your child's financial future have a good foundation first - is both irresponsible and selfish of you.



Another silly side of you is, weren't you going after BillyB in his thread for pursuing a teenager, yet all that time you've been addicted to teen/kiddy porn?

Dude, man...what is up with that?

First, not $500 a month.  Second, do you not think she should have to pay child support?  Why, because she is a woman?  Does it not matter that I've taken care of him by myself for the last 6 years?!  If the tables were turned, I'm sure you wouldn't think twice about a man paying child support.  But that just further goes to show how messed up your idea of equality is. 

And I don't know where you get kiddy porn from, never seen kiddy porn in my life.  Teen porn, yeah I'm sure I've seen 18 and 19 year olds!  I've done 18 and 19 year olds.  I also don't know where this "addict" thing came from either, if I qualify as an addict, then so does 95% of all the other men out there.  I know for a fact I never looked at more porn than a typical guy.  And yeah there were times I would rather watch porn than have sex with her, because I couldn't stand to be around her anymore, so why the hell would I want to sleep with her?  You think just because she's good looking I'd want to sleep with her?  Nah.  There's more to it than that. 

[Southpaw1982]

Southpaw, I hope that isn't true. Not taking care of your own flesh and blood is worse than anything you claim jmana did. If you're saying that because you're pissed off at jmana for what he's said here, it's best you both call a truce and stop fighting on a public forum. The bigger man or woman would take the first step and announce they won't be saying anything more about the ex and actually mean it. Water under the bridge kind of mean it.

First of all it is not what I said. But IF i had another child, it gets calculated differently. Which means, first kid get maybe a half of what i am paying now. It is just simple NC guidelines, the law.  I am not pissed off at jmana, he is the one who is pissed off at life... lol

[Southpaw1982]

Lies lies lies.  Never had to take "anger management" classes.  Yeah I was on probation, for getting caught with enough pot to roll one joint when I was in my early 20's, wow I'm such a criminal.  Not even on my record anymore, hasn't been for years.  And yeah, I was in a jail, for 9 hours because of it, but boy oh boy does she love to make it seem like I did time!  What a joke.....

Wheaaaaa! LOL Did you tell Alina, or you are going to lie to her too? They made you take an anger management class because you threaten somebody with a gun. I remember how mad you were at them for making you take that class LMAO!!! 
Oh Gosh, i can't...i am going to pee myself...Oh, wait a sec...i better not mention that, because jmana will make me pee in the cup for him lol No go, no go... LMAO!!!

[jmana]

First of all it is not what I said. But IF i had another child, it gets calculated differently. Which means, first kid get maybe a half of what i am paying now. It is just simple NC guidelines, the law.  I am not pissed off at jmana, he is the one who is pissed off at life... lol
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Ummm, no.  That's not how they calculate it, at all.  Just because you pop out another kid that you and your new hubby can't afford (keep in mind he has 2 little girls to pay for), doesn't mean your first born will suffer.  Your hubby will be responsible to completely pay for your new kid, and that has absolutely nothing to do with our son.   I don't know where you get your info from, but you are very wrong.

[jmana]

Wheaaaaa! LOL Did you tell Alina, or you are going to lie to her too? They made you take an anger management class because you threaten somebody with a gun. I remember how mad you were at them for making you take that class LMAO!!! 
Oh Gosh, i can't...i am going to pee myself...Oh, wait a sec...i better not mention that, because jmana will make me pee in the cup for him lol No go, no go... LMAO!!!

No, I NEVER took an anger management class in my life (if you recall the probation lady said it was ridiculous for me to take that class because I was the least angry person she had to deal with!), and no I never "threatened somebody with a gun"!  And there is nothing to tell Alina, the only thing I was convicted of was possession of a tiny amount of pot, and that's when I was like 22 years old (and the pot wasn't even mine!).  I'm 38 now.  What the hell does that matter to me now? 

[Southpaw1982]

Don't worry jmana, nobody is shorting you. You will get you monyez. you willz, you willz...  cause you need it more than i do... You are counting on it...

They ask in courtroom if i had any other children for a reason, because it does get calculated differently... NO, you don't know wtf you are talking about at all...None of your business how many children we can or cannot afford. It will affect you either way. You can't hog it all. lol

[Daveman]

And the pot thickens!!!

the only thing I was convicted of was possession of a tiny amount of pot, and that's when I was like 22 years old (and the pot wasn't even mine!). 

This has potential for a great reality show.. "Porn, Poles, and Pot"

[Southpaw1982]

No, I NEVER took an anger management class in my life (if you recall the probation lady said it was ridiculous for me to take that class because I was the least angry person she had to deal with!), and no I never "threatened somebody with a gun"!  And there is nothing to tell Alina, the only thing I was convicted of was possession of a tiny amount of pot, and that's when I was like 22 years old (and the pot wasn't even mine!).  I'm 38 now.  What the hell does that matter to me now?

No, you were 24 when that happened. I have the paper work. Same year i arrived in 2000 that Trailer trash incident with the gun...When you were 22 you assaulted another girl, BillyJo, i believe she filled a restraining order.... But, who cares now, right? You are a total angel... 

[jmana]

Don't worry jmana, nobody is shorting you. You will get you monyez. you willz, you willz...  cause you need it more than i do... You are counting on it...

They ask in courtroom if i had any other children for a reason, because it does get calculated differently... NO, you don't know wtf you are talking about at all...None of your business how many children we can or cannot afford. It will affect you either way. You can't hog it all. lol

Yeah if you had another child with me that you were raising, then of course it would cancel out anything you would have to pay.  But you can't just go get knocked up by some other guy and think that will half what you pay to your current son.  And why is it from day one you act like this money goes to me???  It goes to your son.  I just paid $6,000 to put braces on him for god's sake.  How much of that did you pay??  Yeah, exactly.  But continue to make me out to be the villain, using this money to buy online porn    

[Southpaw1982]

And the pot thickens!!!


This has potential for a great reality show.. "Porn, Poles, and Pot"

Leave the poles out of it, does not go really well. "Piss" does