Women with Children - more strongly worded advice

[LiveFromUkraine]

I am taking Southpaw's word because every time jmana says something, and SP responds to him saying "I have screenshots" he never dares her to post the screenshots. Instead he stops elaborating on this particular argument and goes on inventing new accusations and switching the discussion topic into discussion about some other SP's flaws.

Which proves that screenshots indeed exist, and that what SP is saying is true. It also proves that jmana is lying and doing everything possible to destroy the image and morale of SP, the mother of his "beloved" son.

Screenshots of what?


He watched some porn when he was 24 years old?   Just from watching how Southpaw has communicated in this thread, I would rather hit the porn than deal with her as well. 


He smoked some pot when he was 22?  So what, you guys are making it out like he is a druggie.  IF that is the case, we have a druggie in the White House.


He has full time custody of his kid.  She doesn't.  Now, taking off to be a stripper to pay for college is some kind of strong woman thing?  Plenty of women went to college without having to strip. 


She is on her 3rd husband now.


Cmon people.  A woman yells abuse and you guys take her word hook line and sinker.  Instead, there is plenty to show in this thread that Southpaw isn't entirely honest with herself and the decisions she made.  She hasn't taken responsibility and plays the victim card.


Jmana needs to stop this for his son.  Southpaw needs to stop this for her son.  Both need to worry about their son and not what happened in the past. 

[jmana]

It is not even about money to me. It is the principle and how low an individual can go. I am more about my son's mental health, safety and development. I am worried jmana will sexually exploit him to gain money. There are plenty of perves out there like Penn State coach, for example...Knowing this man has mental issues and his greed issues, I am super nervous...

You are F-ing crazy.  Don't ever talk to me again.  Seriously, I'm done with you, you are insane.  How the F-ck could you even say something like that? 

[Southpaw1982]

Hey, I didn't start this BS.  She's the one who came on here and started dredging up past crap that has absolutely no bearing on anything in the present.  That's because she's a woman who lives in the past and will never let go.  Look at what she writes, keeping all these "papers".   Like what the hell does she think she's going to do with that??  Try to get custody someday?  Yeah, good luck with that.  Oh judge, sorry I abandoned my son while I went out and married a drug dealer and stripped, and then took off for Florida and since have only seen him for maybe 3 weeks out of the year, but I promise I'm better now, and besides I have all these PAPERS showing my ex went to such and such porn site in the year 2006 and he witnessed a beheading online, and I think I should have custody just because I feel like it's a good idea.  Yeah, OKAY!!

Wow, you are out of control!. You know my second husband, despite his drinking problem, was a much nicer man than you are. He was never a drug dealer. He did smoke pot while he gambled away from home....But he NEVER tried to screw me over as much as you did...Shame on you for even trying to bring that one up.

[mies]

Are all you Russian women so dense??  Seriously.  Let me tell you the truth,

you are selfish, narcissistic, revengeful, and cheap. Give her back her son and pay the child support, instead of complaining and making a monster out of her. Move on in your life and stop hurting her.

[jmana]

Screenshots of what?


He watched some porn when he was 24 years old?   Just from watching how Southpaw has communicated in this thread, I would rather hit the porn than deal with her as well. 


He smoked some pot when he was 22?  So what, you guys are making it out like he is a druggie.


He has full time custody of his kid.  She doesn't.  Now, taking off to be a stripper to pay for college is some kind of strong woman thing?  Plenty of women went to college without having to strip. 


She is on her 3rd husband now.


Cmon people.  A woman yells abuse and you guys take her word hook line and sinker.  Instead, there is plenty to show in this thread that Southpaw isn't entirely honest with herself and the decisions she made.  She hasn't taken responsibility and plays the victim card.


Jmana needs to stop this for his son.  Southpaw needs to stop this for her son.  Both need to worry about their son and not what happened in the past.

Finally, someone with a friggen brain.  You hit the nail on the head.  She's always taken the easy way out.  Stipping was easier than working.  Going to a college that cost $20k a year, but would give anyone who paid a worthless degree, was easier than going to an actual college.  Marrying someone who owns the business you work for is easier than trying to get a job in what you went to school for.  Yep, there are plenty of woman that work more than one job (none of them involve taking their clothes off), go to a real college full time, AND raise a kid on their own. 

[Hammer2722]

Screenshots of what?


He watched some porn when he was 24 years old?   Just from watching how Southpaw has communicated in this thread, I would rather hit the porn than deal with her as well. 


He smoked some pot when he was 22?  So what, you guys are making it out like he is a druggie.  IF that is the case, we have a druggie in the White House.


He has full time custody of his kid.  She doesn't.  Now, taking off to be a stripper to pay for college is some kind of strong woman thing?  Plenty of women went to college without having to strip. 


She is on her 3rd husband now.


Cmon people.  A woman yells abuse and you guys take her word hook line and sinker.  Instead, there is plenty to show in this thread that Southpaw isn't entirely honest with herself and the decisions she made.  She hasn't taken responsibility and plays the victim card.


Jmana needs to stop this for his son.  Southpaw needs to stop this for her son.  Both need to worry about their son and not what happened in the past.

I totally agree with everything you said. I would add that Jmana is guilty of not being too smart when it comes to choosing women. SP seems like a real nutjob to me and Alina is another strange one. Jmana, I believe FSU women are not for you.....

[jmana]

you are selfish, narcissistic, revengeful, and cheap. Give her back her son and pay the child support, instead of complaining and making a monster out of her. Move on in your life and stop hurting her.

Give her back her son?  WTF?  You act like I took him from her!  What part of her abandoning him don't you understand????? 

[mies]

He has full time custody of his kid.  She doesn't.  Now, taking off to be a stripper to pay for college is some kind of strong woman thing?  Plenty of women went to college without having to strip. 

EXACTLY my point. A woman with a good husband doesn't need to do stripping as a last resort IN ADDITION to having a day job at JCPennies to pay the family bills & get education to move up in her life from this dirt.

Screenshots of what?

It doesn't matter of what. What matters is that SP says she has a proof for everything she says, and she can provide it. Jmana never dared her to do so, instead, he retreats every time. Which is a very telling behavior.

[Hammer2722]

Jmana, don't waste your time arguing with Mies. Its a losing battle. In her eyes, every woman is a victim and every man the evil monster....

[mies]

Give her back her son?  WTF?  You act like I took him from her!  What part of her abandoning him don't you understand?????

what part of screwing up another person's life you do not understand?


Hammer, I'm out of this thread too. I can't stomach to be around the people like jmana. Even virtually.

[jmana]

I totally agree with everything you said. I would add that Jmana is guilty of not being too smart when it comes to choosing women. SP seems like a real nutjob to me and Alina is another strange one. Jmana, I believe FSU women are not for you.....

I agree I made a huge mistake with the first one.  I was young and stupid.  Little did I know how messed up in the head she was from her upbringing and family.  Alina is strange, she has strange interests and we have had some rough patches, but she's not batshit crazy.  At least I know she'll never ask me if she can try out at the local titty bar, LOL! 

[LiveFromUkraine]

I totally agree with everything you said. I would add that Jmana is guilty of not being too smart when it comes to choosing women. SP seems like a real nutjob to me and Alina is another strange one. Jmana, I believe FSU women are not for you.....

Sometimes people pick based on their own insecurities or problems.   It's always better to work on yourself to remove those problems, from your life, before dating or heaven forbid marriage.   Otherwise, you end up in more and more problem relationships and an unhappy life.


Add in a kid that you're suppose to protect and it is imperative that he fixes himself before another marriage.

[jmana]

EXACTLY my point. A woman with a good husband doesn't need to do stripping as a last resort IN ADDITION to having a day job at JCPennies to pay the family bills & get education to move up in her life from this dirt.

Oh I am so tired of this.  She didn't NEED to do it.  She was jealous of my sister.  She was greedy.  She wanted more $$$.  I didn't think she'd continue after the first day, I thought she'd go, hate it, and all would be good.  But she loved the greenbacks, and the ease of how they came, and continued to do it for 2 years.  And then apparently did it again here for who knows how long.  Are you going to blame that on me too?  Hell I didn't even know she did that.  But I guess that's my fault too?  And she wasn't paying child support at that time, so you can't say she did it to pay me off. 

[LiveFromUkraine]

EXACTLY my point. A woman with a good husband doesn't need to do stripping as a last resort IN ADDITION to having a day job at JCPennies to pay the family bills & get education to move up in her life from this dirt.
 It doesn't matter of what. What matters is that SP says she has a proof for everything she says, and she can provide it. Jmana never dared her to do so, instead, he retreats every time. Which is a very telling behavior.

She is still an adult who is responsible for her own actions.  No?


Mies, I know very well where you stand on the abuse wagon.  I also understand why.  There may have been abuse but I am not so certain it was simply one way abuse.  All you have to do is look at both people in this thread and see how they abuse each other.

Him watching porn at the age of 24 is not abusing her.  Him smoking a joint at the age of 22 isn't abusing her. 

[Southpaw1982]

Screenshots of what?


He has full time custody of his kid.  She doesn't.  Now, taking off to be a stripper to pay for college is some kind of strong woman thing?  Plenty of women went to college without having to strip. 


She is on her 3rd husband now.


Cmon people.  A woman yells abuse and you guys take her word hook line and sinker.  Instead, there is plenty to show in this thread that Southpaw isn't entirely honest with herself and the decisions she made.  She hasn't taken responsibility and plays the victim card.


Jmana needs to stop this for his son.  Southpaw needs to stop this for her son.  Both need to worry about their son and not what happened in the past.

I was a dancer while married to jmana. I worked other jobs. I have screen shots of my son's laptop's internet history on when he searched for porn at his father's house.
I don't care what jmana does now and who he is at this point... He is attacking my character, while I only bring the facts of what he did TO ME. Do I need to talk about him raping me and birth control sabotaging me to seal the deal and have me stuck being married to him and being pregnant? Don't get me started, I am actually being nice. He wanted me to be stuck with him until I committed a suicide, I did not want me to have health insurance at the end of our marriage. I was covered in hives and felt sick all the time ( I would not be surprised if he tried to poison me).
Jmana grew up in Lamar PA trailer park; I grew up in Odessa, I danced in Odessa Opera and Ballet House (attended Odessa Ballet School) and was a  preschool college student. Do you think I wanted to sign up for this BS just for a stupid Green card he did not even want me to have? F that!
You have 0 consideration if you think I am being lame... I am not a victim anymore!!!! He is ( of his own f ups) ! lol  I made it and it did not kill me, but made me strong.  I just know he will get what he deserves!

[Southpaw1982]

Finally, someone with a friggen brain.  You hit the nail on the head.  She's always taken the easy way out.  Stipping was easier than working.  Going to a college that cost $20k a year, but would give anyone who paid a worthless degree, was easier than going to an actual college.  Marrying someone who owns the business you work for is easier than trying to get a job in what you went to school for.  Yep, there are plenty of woman that work more than one job (none of them involve taking their clothes off), go to a real college full time, AND raise a kid on their own.

It does not cost 20K a year.  LOL you don't know crap! lol

[Hammer2722]

SP, I think you are not doing yourself any favors by continuing to rant on and on other than to make yourself look really bad. Why not just stop posting altogether? You said your peace and frankly, I don't believe anything either you or Jmana says anymore....

[Southpaw1982]

I agree I made a huge mistake with the first one.  I was young and stupid.  Little did I know how messed up in the head she was from her upbringing and family.  Alina is strange, she has strange interests and we have had some rough patches, but she's not batshit crazy.  At least I know she'll never ask me if she can try out at the local titty bar, LOL!

You were young...Ok, and I was like 85? lol

[Southpaw1982]

Give her back her son?  WTF?  You act like I took him from her!  What part of her abandoning him don't you understand?????

I ran, I ran! from this f up.

[Muzh]

Oh yes, she is so innocent    She already told you she was a friggen stripper    Love that, oh I am so turned off by porn, but let me get completely naked and grind some old fat dude's dick, that's completely harmless, LOL!

Man, you definitely come from trailer trash. So you have your son watching porn now? How old is he? Old enough to be considered "endangering of a child?"
 
And it seems you have never felt the need to do whatever it takes to survive, eh? Is that because there were others that had to go "completely naked and grind some old fat dude's dick" so she would bring you back the earnings? You know what the call that, don't you?

[Southpaw1982]

Oh I am so tired of this.  She didn't NEED to do it.  She was jealous of my sister.  She was greedy.  She wanted more $$$.  I didn't think she'd continue after the first day, I thought she'd go, hate it, and all would be good.  But she loved the greenbacks, and the ease of how they came, and continued to do it for 2 years.  And then apparently did it again here for who knows how long.  Are you going to blame that on me too?  Hell I didn't even know she did that.  But I guess that's my fault too?  And she wasn't paying child support at that time, so you can't say she did it to pay me off.

Really? I never had a weight problem...So, who was jealous? LOL

[LiveFromUkraine]

I was a dancer while married to jmana. I worked other jobs. I have screen shots of my son's laptop's internet history on when he searched for porn at his father's house.
I don't care what jmana does now and who he is at this point... He is attacking my character, while I only bring the facts of what he did TO ME. Do I need to talk about him raping me and birth control sabotaging me to seal the deal and have me stuck being married to him and being pregnant? Don't get me started, I am actually being nice. He wanted me to be stuck with him until I committed a suicide, I did not want me to have health insurance at the end of our marriage. I was covered in hives and felt sick all the time ( I would not be surprised if he tried to poison me).
Jmana grew up in Lamar PA trailer park; I grew up in Odessa, I danced in Odessa Opera and Ballet House (attended Odessa Ballet School) and was a  preschool college student. Do you think I wanted to sign up for this BS just for a stupid Green card he did not even want me to have? F that!
You have 0 consideration if you think I am being lame... I am not a victim anymore!!!! He is ( of his own f ups) ! lol  I made it and it did not kill me, but made me strong.  I just know he will get what he deserves!

Your stories become more and more extreme.  I just know you two were terrible for each other.  It is obvious in this thread.


If Jmana was this bad, I find it terrible that you allowed him full custody of your only child...  or was their a reason the court gave him custody?

[Southpaw1982]

SP, I think you are not doing yourself any favors by continuing to rant on and on other than to make yourself look really bad. Why not just stop posting altogether? You said your peace and frankly, I don't believe anything either you or Jmana says anymore....

You are right! I really don't worry about looking bad, he has to live with himself... it is at the point when he is assuming stuff and making the stories up. I was done with him the moment I walked out on that house.
I did not start this, he was writing about me on here way before. I just happened to come across and tell my side of the story. There are much more to it though. I will let Alina live it complain about it later too...

I am not a victim, I never was... I was only a fighter for what felt right at the time. I don't need any pity from anyone. He does.... lol

[jmana]

I was a dancer while married to jmana. I worked other jobs. I have screen shots of my son's laptop's internet history on when he searched for porn at his father's house.
I don't care what jmana does now and who he is at this point... He is attacking my character, while I only bring the facts of what he did TO ME. Do I need to talk about him raping me and birth control sabotaging me to seal the deal and have me stuck being married to him and being pregnant? Don't get me started, I am actually being nice. He wanted me to be stuck with him until I committed a suicide, I did not want me to have health insurance at the end of our marriage. I was covered in hives and felt sick all the time ( I would not be surprised if he tried to poison me).
Jmana grew up in Lamar PA trailer park; I grew up in Odessa, I danced in Odessa Opera and Ballet House (attended Odessa Ballet School) and was a  preschool college student. Do you think I wanted to sign up for this BS just for a stupid Green card he did not even want me to have? F that!
You have 0 consideration if you think I am being lame... I am not a victim anymore!!!! He is ( of his own f ups) ! lol  I made it and it did not kill me, but made me strong.  I just know he will get what he deserves!

Oh god, now I raped you and sabotaged your birth control??  WTF is wrong with you?  You are more insane than I ever gave you credit for.

[Southpaw1982]

Man, you definitely come from trailer trash. So you have your son watching porn now? How old is he? Old enough to be considered "endangering of a child?"
 
And it seems you have never felt the need to do whatever it takes to survive, eh? Is that because there were others that had to go "completely naked and grind some old fat dude's dick" so she would bring you back the earnings? You know what the call that, don't you?

A pimp... LOL