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« Reply #100 on: September 05, 2016, 07:45:54 AM »

This is an inaccurate portrayal of what was occurring in Kosovo, though it was how it was portrayed in the Western media.


Why were the Serbs in Kosovo?  Because Albanian Kosovars were murdering Serbs there.  The KLA then started rumours that the Serbs were ethnically cleansing the region.  They were not.


You could make the argument about a potential "holocaust" in Bosnia, but not in Kosovo.  The end result is that the region is now run by criminal elements, with no rule of law, and one in which Serbs were ethnically cleansed. 


Russia refused to follow the Albright narrative on Kosovo, and they were right.


So there wasn't wholesale slaughter of Muslims in Kosovo? Ok. It is amazing how you are an expert on everything.  :wallbash:

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« Reply #101 on: September 05, 2016, 08:36:31 AM »
From a neutral source, funded by the European Commission -[/size]

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/kosovo-mass-grave-failed-to-yield-bodies-07-29-2016

From a libertarian site -

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jatras9.html
http://www.antiwar.com/rep/zenit1.html
http://www.antiwar.com/rep/jared3.html

From a far left news source -

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/dec/15/balkans-report-blairs-liberal-intervention
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/14/kosovo-prime-minister-llike-mafia-boss

An academic paper -

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/sipa/S6800/courseworks/NATOhumanitarian.pdf

You can also google "Jonathan Steele", who was on the ground in 1999, and has many news reports from Kosovo.

I could link hundreds more of such articles.

Were there ethnic slaughters?  Absolutely.  On both sides.  But no, there was no "holocaust".  The result of NATO intervention was to hand Kosovo over to thugs.  Albanians now use Kosovo as a staging point to control the drug and human trafficking trade in Europe.  That is what the West's intervention in Kosovo "secured".

]The Clinton administration tied itself to the KLA and in particular, its leader, Hashim Thaci, helping install him in power.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB93061314533384762

NATO reports would later implicate him as one of the leaders in organized crime in the country.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

I have never claimed to be an expert on everything.  But I do read a great deal, from a variety of sources, and don't believe every report I read.  Even the KLA has admitted it lied about the mass graves in order to get the West to intervene.

If you can find me sources on the "wholesale slaughter" of Muslims in Kosovo, I would be interested in that information.  Because, from everything I have read, that did not occur.  That war was pretty evenly divided in atrocities and, as I stated, started when the KLA started executing Kosovar Serbian officials.  Kosovo was never Bosnia (where there actually were wholesale slaughters of Muslims, when the war escalated after Croat and Bosniak forces slaughtered 59 Serbs in the village of Sijekovac).
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« Reply #102 on: September 05, 2016, 11:54:09 AM »
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French lorry drivers converge on Calais for refugee camp protest Protesters are planning to block roads in and out of the port as they demand a date for the demolition of the ‘Jungle’ camp



French lorry drivers have threatened to blockade the port of Calais, causing severe travel disruption in France and the UK, unless a date is set for dismantling the “Jungle” refugee camp.Jean-Pierre Devigne, a senior official at France’s largest trucking union, the FNTR, confirmed that lorries and tractors would converge on Calais on Monday in two go-slow motorway protests from Dunkirk and Boulogne. Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, he said: “We want to drive slowly on the motorway A16 from Dunkirk to Calais: one group from Dunkirk and a second from Boulogne, arriving at Calais to stop the lorries on the motorway. The farmers will join us on the way. We are determined to show that we are not happy with the situation. We [will] stay for the time we need.” Asked whether they would maintain the blockade for days, Devigne said: “Yes. We are determined to stay on the motorway for the time we need.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/05/travel-chaos-warning-as-french-farmers-and-truckers-plan-calais-camp-protest

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« Reply #103 on: September 08, 2016, 05:21:16 PM »
Huh, it's almost like the government can't protect everyone so people want the ability to stand up for themselves. Weird!


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-attacks-guns-idUSKCN10Y19U

Europeans in a number of countries are seeking to arm themselves with guns and self-defense devices in growing numbers following a series of attacks by militants and the mentally ill.

Some weapons sellers also link their increased business to the arrival of huge numbers of migrants in Europe, although a German police report stated that the vast majority do not commit crimes of any kind in the country.

The picture is patchy, with no up-to-date data available at a European level, leaving national and regional authorities to release statistics that are far from comprehensive and not always comparable. Reasons also vary for civilians to own guns legally, including hunting and sport as well as self-protection.

Nevertheless, applications for gun permits are climbing in Switzerland, Austria and the Czech Republic. Their larger neighbor Germany has not followed the trend in lethal firearms, but permits for carrying devices designed to scare off assailants, such as blank guns and those that fire pepper spray, have risen almost 50 percent.

"There's no official explanation for the rise, but in general we see a connection to Europe's terrorist attacks," said Hanspeter Kruesi, a police spokesman in the Swiss canton of St. Gallen.

After he spoke to Reuters, the canton was the scene of an attack aboard a train this month. The suspect and a woman victim died later, although police said his motive was unclear.

One Swiss resident who has just bought his first ever weapons - a pistol and a pump-action shotgun - pinned his decision on a feeling of insecurity created by the attacks combined with criminality that he blamed on north Africans, as well as concern over recent break-ins in his neighborhood.

"Nevertheless these attacks are contributing to a subjective sense of threat, as is the rising pressure from migration and the high crime rate among migrants from the Maghreb," he said, requesting anonymity due to concerns about his safety.


Gun sellers said weapons interest grew in Austria after large numbers of migrants arrived in the country at the northern end of the now closed 'Balkan Route'. "Fear is very much a driving force," said Robert Siegert, a gunmaker and the weapons trade spokesman at the Austrian Chamber of Commerce "That's what we keep hearing from salespeople in shops."
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« Reply #104 on: September 12, 2016, 05:47:13 PM »
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France uncovering new terror plots 'every day'

The French Prime Minster warns there "will be new attacks" as a 15-year-old boy is held over a suspected imminent plot.
  00:14, UK, Tuesday 13 September 2016 
   France says it's facing a threat from some 15,000 homegrown radicals

Manuel Valls said France faced a threat from an estimated 15,000 homegrown radicals, warning that despite the efforts of security services, there "will be new attacks".
He was speaking to radio station Europe 1 as a 15-year-old boy was arrested in Paris on suspicion of planning an imminent knife attack.
"Today the threat is at a maximum, and we are a target," Valls said on Sunday.
http://news.sky.com/story/france-uncovering-new-terror-plots-every-day-10575078


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« Reply #105 on: September 12, 2016, 06:18:48 PM »
On this date in 1683 European armies led by Polish king Jon sobieski defeated an Ottoman Turk siege of Vienna. You can read an account of it here:

http://www.historynet.com/turning-the-ottoman-tide-john-iii-sobieski-at-vienna-1683.htm

If European leaders had the will to stand up to today's Muslim invasion they could be successful. But all except the Eastern Europeans lack the will.
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« Reply #106 on: September 12, 2016, 06:25:10 PM »
After all the propaganda, it turned out that the Serbs weren't evil and Hitlerish like the media wanted us to believe.

http://montrealgazette.com/opinion/opinion-butcher-of-the-balkans-wasnt-a-butcher-after-all

In many respects at least parts of the bombing campaign were a war crime, in that it targeted civilian infrastructure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NATO_bombing_of_Novi_Sad for example...

(General Wesley "The Weasel" Clark, and then President Bill Clinton were both involved - the same errand-boy general that was at Waco, TX when 76 American citizens were gassed with CS gas and killed, by the way.)



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« Reply #107 on: September 12, 2016, 07:33:55 PM »
France uncovering new terror plots 'every day'


Article says 293 people been arrested this year so far for possible terrorists acts. That's up from 250 a few weeks ago. 1500 possible radicals are being investigated right now. 15,000 are in the process of being radicalized. Just think how many terrorist acts would have happened in France if they didn't catch those guys.
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« Reply #108 on: September 12, 2016, 07:56:47 PM »
After all the propaganda, it turned out that the Serbs weren't evil and Hitlerish like the media wanted us to believe.

In many respects at least parts of the bombing campaign were a war crime, in that it targeted civilian infrastructure.


(General Wesley "The Weasel" Clark, and then President Bill Clinton were both involved - the same errand-boy general that was at Waco, TX when 76 American citizens were gassed with CS gas and killed, by the way.)


See my comments on Kosovo above.


The Croats, not the Serbs, started the disintegration of the former Yugoslavia, aided by Germany. 
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« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2016, 12:52:35 PM »
Merkel’s mess: German companies not hiring refugees
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Invasion of Europe news….
Angela Merkel was telling anyone who would listen that Germany would welcome any Middle Easterners and Africans who could get there.  She wanted to be a humanitarian, but she claimed Germany needed more workers as well.  Looks like she was very very wrong about that.  In fact, this issue of bringing in hundreds of thousands of low-skilled workers (as the US is doing too) is a ticking time bomb!
 merkel-grinning height=236Merkel, fighting for her political life. You know what struck me so funny, as I sorted through photos of Frau Merkel, is that like Hillary she has some astounding facial expressions. Could she have the same affliction that Hillary has, whatever that is? What with innovation in the workplace requiring fewer such workers and welfare systems being strained worldwide, what will happen to all these unhappy foreigners who have neither cultural roots nor upward mobility in their new countries.
http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2016/09/14/merkels-mess-german-companies-not-hiring-refugees/
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« Reply #110 on: September 14, 2016, 06:22:59 PM »
I heard reported.....

Many of the 'refugees' aren't really applying for work anyway, and are unwilling to learn German.
Notwithstanding, the Germans are not going to be willing to learn Arabic or some such language as an accommodation.
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« Reply #111 on: September 16, 2016, 07:06:18 PM »
19-year-old Haroon Ali Syed is being charged with preparing acts of terrorism for supposedly planning to construct a nail bomb and to kill civilians at a Sir Elton show Sept. 11 in London's Hyde Park.

... Syed was arrested along with two other men, who have since been released on bail. The plot described by the prosecution would attempt to replicate the carnage seen in the “7/7” bombings in London in 2005.

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« Reply #112 on: September 17, 2016, 01:17:58 PM »
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Refugees allowed into Italy after threat to drown babies

by NICK PISA, Daily Mail
Almost 1,000 illegal immigrants landed in Italy yesterday after threatening to throw babies into the sea if their rusting ship was turned back. The 240ft Monica had been spotted in international waters during the night.
When Italian coastguard boats drew alongside, the crews were shocked to see men and women on board begin dangling the infants over the side.
The refugees  -  mostly Kurds and many said to be heading for Britain  - calmed down only when they were assured they would not be turned away from Italy.
The ship was towed to the Sicilian port of Catania, where 400 men, 200 women and 361 children were taken to Red Cross shelters.
A 21-year-old woman had earlier been lifted off by helicopter after giving birth to a girl. They were doing well in hospital last night.
Officials said most of the refugees were suffering from exhaustion and sea sickness.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-105630/Refugees-allowed-Italy-threat-drown-babies.html
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« Reply #113 on: September 17, 2016, 01:22:51 PM »
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235,000 migrants, refugees waiting to leave for Italy will succeed – UN envoy to Libya


There are roughly 235,000 refugees and migrants stranded on Libyan shores who are desperate to continue on to Italy by sea, the UN envoy to Libya said, warning of an imminent new influx to Europe. [/size]
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Hundreds of thousands of migrants and refugees in Libya are ready to make the dangerous journey across the Mediterranean, UN envoy to Libya Martin Kobler said in an interview with Italian newspaper La Stampa on Thursday.
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« Reply #114 on: September 17, 2016, 02:39:54 PM »
I heard reported.....

Many of the 'refugees' aren't really applying for work anyway, and are unwilling to learn German.
Notwithstanding, the Germans are not going to be willing to learn Arabic or some such language as an accommodation.

Pretty arrogant of the Germans.
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« Reply #115 on: September 17, 2016, 03:19:37 PM »

When Italian coastguard boats drew alongside, the crews were shocked to see men and women on board begin dangling the infants over the side. [/size]The refugees  -  mostly Kurds and many said to be heading for Britain



The Kurds are one of the few groups in the Middle East we should be helping more.
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« Reply #116 on: September 17, 2016, 07:28:33 PM »
Pretty arrogant of the Germans.

In the mid to late 1990's, as the Balkan War flared, Canada took in tens of thousands of Balkan refugees.  They were immediately given $1600 a month and free housing, at least, in my city.  That was a lot of money back then, $100 could feed a family of four for a week.  They were also sent for language training. 

The better half was working at a location where the Balkan refugees were taking English classes.  He could hear them, as they were lectured in English, swearing at the teacher in Serbo-Croatian, saying that they had no interest in learning English.  And indeed, they did not learn English.  They didn't work, either.  They mostly sat around drinking coffee and smoking.

When the political situation in the Balkans improved, most of those refugees left Canada, returning to their home countries.  I believe that for the real refugees (a minority in Germany, I am not referring to economic refugees), that will hold true as well.  It is not easy to leave everything familiar, the land of your ancestors, your family's graves, your family, your neighbours, to start a new life somewhere new.  Not everyone can do it.  Not everyone wishes to do so.
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« Reply #117 on: September 19, 2016, 09:00:18 AM »
Angela Merkel's party suffers bruising loss in Berlin elections as far-right party gains     
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21 hours ago  12,844 Views                   91 Comments                   Share36  Tweet  Email3           German Chancellor Angela Merkel height=285                            German Chancellor Angela Merkel  Image: AP Photo/Ronald Zak  GERMAN CHANCELLOR ANGELA Merkel’s party suffered a bruising loss in Berlin state elections today while the right-wing populist AfD again gained support, capitalising on anger over her open-door refugee policy.
The anti-Islam Alternative for Germany party won around 12%, according to broadcasters’ exit polls in the capital, which prides itself on being a hip, multicultural city – gaining seats in the tenth of Germany’s 16 states a year ahead of national elections.
Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union won just 18% – its worst post-war result in the city, before or after the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall – according to the exit polls, likely spelling the end of its term as junior coalition partner to the Social Democrats, who won 23%.
The election in the chronically indebted city-state of 3.5 million people was dominated by many local issues including poor public services, crumbling schools, late trains and a housing shortage, as well as how to cope with the migrant influx.

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« Reply #118 on: September 19, 2016, 01:11:09 PM »
Angela Merkel's party suffers bruising loss in Berlin elections as far-right party gains     

http://www.thejournal.ie/merkel-electrons-germany-2986087-Sep2016/


The far right Neo Nazis are gaining and if they run the show, Germany will self destruct again. Syrians have twice as much children as Germans do. Immigrants will have more voting power to counter far right groups down the line. Far right groups would get so much support if the immigrants behaved.
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« Reply #119 on: September 28, 2016, 07:59:05 PM »
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(CNN)A total of 204 bodies have been recovered from the migrant boat that capsized off the coast of Egypt last week, a local official was quoted by state media as saying.
The vessel had set off from Egypt carrying around 450 people and was heading for Italy when it overturned last Wednesday 12 nautical miles northeast of Rashid -- also known as Rosetta -- in El Beheira governorate.

Children among more than 200 bodies recovered from capsized migrant boatSarah Sirgany and Schams Elwazer, CNN
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    « Reply #120 on: October 05, 2016, 09:42:32 AM »
    Europe is falling apart even in sports.  The USA golf team crushed the EU team in the Ryder Cup. 

    The Ryder Cup is unlike any other golf tournament.  It is a team event, not an individual competition.  It played for one's country; there is no prize money).  It is played every two years. 

    For two years  pro golfers go about their business in a stoic manner, and the crowds remain polite and mostly silent.  For the Ryder Cup some players really get pumped up and pump up the huge crowd of fans.

    Admittedly American fans overdo it.  They do not behave as proper British gentlemen.  Their boisterous support first started when the Ryder Cup was played near  New York City. [feel free to fill in the blanks].

    The brother of one British competitor wrote this piece referring to American fans as if they are in the Trump basket of deplorables, even referring to the slogan Make America Great Again in a derogatory manner.   So every RWD member who does not have a high regard for Americans, you will enjoy his piece even if you are not a golf fan.  You can thank me later.   


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    "They need to silence the pudgy, basement-dwelling, irritants, stuffed on cookie dough and pissy beer, pausing between mouthfuls of hotdog so they can scream ‘Baba booey’ until their jelly faces turn red.

    "They need to stun the angry, unwashed, Make America Great Again swarm, desperately gripping their concealed-carry compensators and belting out a mini-erection inducing ‘mashed potato,’ hoping to impress their cousin.

    "They need to smash the obnoxious dads, with their shiny teeth, Lego man hair, medicated ex-wives, and resentful children. Squeezed into their cargo shorts and boating shoes, they’ll bellow ‘get in the hole’ whilst high-fiving all the other members of the Dentists’ Big Game Hunt Society.

     "If these things happen, Europe will win, and I’ll try to support gracefully by embracing the same sense of fair-mindedness that has permeated this unbiased article. If not, the Americans will claim their second victory this century… those fat, stupid, greedy, classless, bastards."       
     

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    « Reply #121 on: October 05, 2016, 03:35:21 PM »
    Swedish girl sexually assaulted at school:

    "explained to us by a school staff that our daughter was blonde and sweet and so exciting to pick on, says the girl's mother for SVT."

    obviously not dealing with fellow Swedes in her school...

    "The situation was finally so severe that the girl was offered to run alone in a bus to and from school, but not even that helped. A bunch of boys at the school ran before the girl and surrounded her outside her home."

    http://www.friatider.se/skolans-forklaring-till-sexattackerna  (use Google Translate etc to translate)
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    « Reply #122 on: October 05, 2016, 03:37:48 PM »
    Swedish girl sexually assaulted at school:

    "explained to us by a school staff that our daughter was blonde and sweet and so exciting to pick on, says the girl's mother for SVT."

    obviously not dealing with fellow Swedes in her school...

    "The situation was finally so severe that the girl was offered to run alone in a bus to and from school, but not even that helped. A bunch of boys at the school ran before the girl and surrounded her outside her home."

    http://www.friatider.se/skolans-forklaring-till-sexattackerna  (use Google Translate etc to translate)

    It is disgusting that the swedish government allowed this invasion of rapefugees.

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    « Reply #123 on: October 05, 2016, 03:58:37 PM »
    The problem is only partly asylum seekers/culture.  The other is the lack of consequences.

    This occurred in the USSR as well in the 1970's.  Men from the Caucasus would come to the cities in Russia and Ukraine, where women wore miniskirts, and they raped women.  Authorities responded by looking at culture in their republics.  So, they started televising their rape trials in their home countries, complete with names.  The problem disappeared almost overnight.

    In this situation, why are the boys not expelled from school?

    In continental European countries, rape often is viewed differently than in North America.  Sentences for rape tend to be lower.  So, sentences likely need to be increased, particularly for gang rapes.  Rather than attempt to "understand' the foreign culture, European countries should also be advising asylum seekers that rape and harassment of women will not be tolerated, they will be jailed and expelled from the country permanently (which also doesn't happen).
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    « Reply #124 on: October 05, 2016, 04:10:06 PM »
    Our son was in Sweden recently.  He asked about the asylum situation (I asked him to do so, as I wanted to know if it is dire as portrayed in the media).  He was told by a Swede that she does not understand the "American" obsession with asylum seekers in Sweden, and that, for the most part, Swedes support them.

    I have a friend, an old woman from Germany.  She moved here after the war.  She is from Eastern Germany, but her brother stayed in Germany, and he now lives in Western Germany.  She still visits and has many friends there that she communicates with daily.  She said Germany is very split on asylum seekers, and that there are, indeed, far more rapes than before they arrived.  She also said that the press in Germany always runs what the government wants.  Oh, and that the biggest problems they have with criminals are those from Lebanon, Georgia, and the Balkans, with Russia not far behind those three groups.
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