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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3950 on: March 02, 2025, 08:21:18 PM »
thanks...good find...



100% Trump is gonna cancel all Russian sanctions...soon...

Looks like it

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3951 on: March 03, 2025, 08:12:25 AM »
why is everyone shocked about Donald Trump’s “mysterious” allegiance to Vladimir Putin?

Agent Krasnov
1987: “Trump Lands in Red Square. The Soviets want him to build two luxury hotels.”
A few months later, Trump spends $130,000 on ads promoting a US withdrawal from NATO.
1987, Newsweek article, a few months later full page anti-NATO ad in NYT

There is absolutely nothing “mysterious” or “shocking” about any of this.
Russians have been infecting the American body politic since the 19th century, when Helena Blavatsky came to America to create Theosophy, while her student, an agent of Tsarist secret service Okhrana, promoted the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” in 1903.
After the Russian Revolution, antisemitic Russian Boris Brasol, an agent of the Russian White Army, came to America and convinced Henry Ford to publish the “Protocols” in the 1920s which in turn inspired Hitler.

this is YOUR History America
but you are ignorant of this, and SO MUCH MORE
Trump works for Trump and corruption fees
the only people you can sell snake oil to is racist ignorant dumb phuques who are legion in this country


Trump the businessman
http://time.com/4343030/donald-trump-failures/

haha
hey ML...how about instead of a gold medal for Trump
Zelensky brings a case of Trump Vodka and a forged Trump University Degree with Trump's name on it
and a Trump Bible...and ask how trump is gonna get a camel through the eye of a needle n Matthew 19:24
and ask Trump if he knows what it means

Mr sharks and batteries will probably give a great answer

PS

difference between livin in Russia and America
in Russia, you can't really order stuff "on-line"
cuz no matter where ya live, the mail isn't reliable enuff
and that was pre-sanctions

same in Brazil, sellers won't even ship there
in America, I can click, "buy now"
and the order is shipped from the closest Amazon hub
and I get it the next day
but in Russia ya gotta "schlep" to the magazine
everybody in Russia is schlepping everywhere, all the time
Russia is very inefficient for Russians

the American oligarchs are gonna deconstruct the American middle class
and privitize the American government to be run for-profit by oligarchs to maximize their power


also, just so ya know, the days of EASILY buying cheap stuff from china, ends tomorrow
the de minimis” loophole is now closed and Chinese tarriffs are doubled
i'd expect that any country that supports Ukraine will get a tarriff as well
 
russian vendors will be back on ebay

some Trump insider just cashed in
INSIDER TRADING ON TRUMP'S CRYPTO RESERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
who knew and when did they know it

a "whale" a big holder of crypto like David Sacks went 50x long on BTC and ETH, using just $4M to create a $200M position.

He has now closed most of his trades, raking in over $6.8M in a day.

His timing? Perfectly aligned with Trump’s Truth Social post confirming a U.S. Crypto Reserve.

at 200x1, if crypto had dipped even a tiny percentage, which is normal for it to do, then he would have been liquidated and lost his $4 Million

He went long at:
• $ETH at $2,197, liquidation at $2,149.4
• $BTC at $85,908, liquidation at $84,752


instead, he’s cashed out with millions in profit.

Coincidence, or something more?
Occam's Razor

Trump's plan for the United States government to buy exactly the five cryptocurrencies that his crypto advisor, David Sachs, holds.
to do a pump and dump

we will have a national crypto reserve created from borrowed money along with a unicorn sanctuary
but no health, education, or welfare
cuz the people runnin the country now don't need any of that at all
what they need is to make money, the old fashioned way, by market manipulation
and the government is created to serve that need

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3952 on: March 03, 2025, 09:51:25 AM »
Trump will probably cancel sanctions on Russia soon, a bit of a turn around when he was threatening more sanctions on Russia at the start of this Presidency lol, well a phoney threat.

However I am doubtful that Russia will do much better economically as a result of sanctions being dropped by the US. The UK/EU and many other countries around the world will keep up the sanctions and that's Putler's problem. Russia's biggest export is in oil & gas and most of that was to the EU countries, particularly Poland & Germany..So the US dropping sanctions doesn't likely help Putler a whole lot as it's the EU, etc sanctions that are no doubt biting the most. With the US the other side of the world and it's own large reserves of oil & gas in the Gulf of Mexico (America?) and in Texas and no doubt many other places Russia's market there is pretty limited..So the US dropping sanctions probably isn't going to be as big a bonus as it may sound for Russia.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3953 on: March 03, 2025, 09:55:00 AM »
Trump will probably cancel sanctions on Russia soon, a bit of a turn around when he was threatening more sanctions on Russia at the start of this Presidency lol, well a phoney threat.
Well the guy is a stabe genious LOL He has a secret PLAN he totally knows what he is doing!
As Russians like to say : "mnogohodovochka" (многоходовочка)
Just kidding, this is the same guy who once said "Who knew healthcare could be so hard"

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3954 on: March 03, 2025, 10:00:38 AM »
in Russia, you solve problems by throwing money at it, and half goes to oligarchs, and half of that to Putin
but they ran outta money cuz of sanctions

they can't even afford to pay Trump
so THIS is what Trump's gonna fix
THAT's what Trump cares about
removing obstacles that stand between him and grifting

the Biden stategy was to put Russia on an anvil (sanctions)
and let Zelensky hit Russia with a big metal hammer made in Pittsburg

Trump will take away the anvil
and the hammer
for peace...because he is SUCH a noble human being

if this were chess...zelensky is in check when Russian sanctions go away

if Europe doesn't release ALL Russian sanctioned money to Ukraine SOON then it's checkmate
and that means Europe is gonna eventually surrender to Putin as well, sometime in the future

the West will hang themselves and we'll sell them the rope
was always the Russian plan

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/as-europe-mobilizes-behind-ukraine-it-s-sitting-on-a-218-billion-ace-card-and-it-s-being-urged-to-play-it/ar-AA1A8pSV?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=aadb39b37d744b2cfa3b041c0fdaba8b&ei=6

the outcome of the war - will be determined by european banks vrs europen government's struggle over Russian $$$
ukraine is NOT the only one who wants this money


Elon put a kill switch on the entire federal payment system
so that when maidan comes, Elon can selectively shut down parts of the federal payment system including social security, but not the military that's "keeping public order" for the public LOL
until protestors go home

you don't wanna hurt old people on social security, now do ya
while ML contemplates if he's socrates or aristotle
and the virtues of nitrogen vrs helium for euthanasia

ML, the outcome of yur first Trump vote, was that Trump promoted anti-vax nonsense and ya lost a son
yur second Trump vote is gonna cost ya yur social security income, for "some period of time" which will be exactly equal to the durration of American Maidan
if that's what ya call "genuis" then yes, you are a real genuis

what does it say about the 'nature of reality' when a diagnosed Schitzophrenic clearly sees it
but not genuis 'neurotypicals'

i'm a Johny Nash clone
http://livingwithschizophreniauk.org/john-nash/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash_Jr.
so was my father

I would have greatly preferred to have been an Ogden Nash clone, but no choice was given
the truth is: we're ALL sick men, even those who consider themselves in good health

conclusion: maybe I'm not the only one who's really stark raving MAD
ME NOT DUM DUM, YOU DUM DUM
give me GUM GUM


PS
it is universally acknowledged that the children of the mad detest their father, but ironically will end up being just like him for the EXACT same reason he was
just like John Nash's son

while ML is the kinda guy, who just before he jumps in the pool says, "last one who jumps in is GAY"
and i'm the kinda guy who would block anybody else from jumping in after him, and then I'd call ML a rude name...and ML would cry...and run to his mommy

if you can't "do the time" ML
then don't be doin no crime, like promoting fascism
karma don't lie






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« Reply #3955 on: March 03, 2025, 02:00:11 PM »
Looks like it

I predict he doesn't before a peace deal is in place but who knows I have been wrong
countless times. We will know soon enough.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3956 on: March 03, 2025, 05:04:53 PM »
you may be wrong about Trump?
then tell me when you were ever right about Trump's actions, behaviors, etc
I can't see a single instance

Donald Trump is the kind of con artist who would sell a rat's rectum to a blind man, and claim it's a wedding ring and the blind man is gettin an incredible deal
there is NOTHIN too low down for him to not do, he steals from a kid's cancer charity, bribes porn stars he was screwing while his wife was pregnant....and a convicted felon
and you think he has a moral compass...isn't that PRECIOUS....

Trump will 100% sell Ukraine to Russia for $$$
like i've been tellin ya'll for some time now

Donald Trump is the fullfillment of biblical prophecy
christians are now all workin for the devil,
the first time I discovered this was when I called Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, joel Osteen's Mega-Church
and ended up speaking DIRECTLY with "THE DEVIL" who was operating the Gift Shop at the time
I knew right away who it was, I didn't expect it and was schocked to my core
one of the few rare times, I actually felt real fear

so IMHO, you da one doin the Devil's work BEEL...and not me

russians ain't never brought nothin good to America other than refugees
they're repeating their old role of aiding all the dark forces in America
all the poison will rise to the surface now, where it can be seen

european occultism, that was a partial foundation of nazi ideology
like Theosophy and the Order of the Golden Dawn
had Russian roots

like MAGA

Trump and Putin, are not God's choice...
somebody else picked them for their team
so please tell me again, how super duper smart ya'll are
how can that be true, when ya'll don't even know what team yur really playin on
did Jesus tell ya'll to dis the poor and sick and the strangers among ya to follow "prosperity gospel"?
then whay ya'll acting like he did?
who does that really serve then?

BEEL...you may or may not have seen this portion of the Trump-Zelensky meeting, cuz MOST US media edited this portion out

TRUMP: What are you saying?
VANCE: She's asking, 'what if Russia breaks the ceasefire?"

TRUMP: Well what if they-what if anything! What if a bomb drops on
your head right now? Okay? What if they broke it? I don't know. They
broke it with Biden because Biden, they didn't respect him, they didn't
respect Obama. They respect me. Let me tell you, Putin went through a
hell of a lot with me. He went through a phony witch hunt where they
used him and Russia-Russia, Russia, Russia, you ever hear of that deal?
That was a phony-that was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam.
Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff, it was a Democrat scam. And he had
to go through that. And he did go through it and we didn't end up in a
war. He went through it, he was accused of all that stuff-he had nothing
to do with it. It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. It came out of
Hunter Biden's bedroom. It was disgusting. And then they said, 'Oh, oh,
the laptop from hell was made by Russia.' The 51 agents, the whole thing
was a scam, and he had to put up with that. He was being accused of all
that stuff. All I can say is this: He might've broken deals with Obama,
and Bush, and he might've broken them with Biden. He did, maybe,
maybe he didn't-I don't know what happened. But he didn't break them
with me. He wants to make a deal. I don't know if he can make a deal.


this is the person you trust to run things...
i'm curious what he'd have to say, to get you to alter that belief, if his own words, shown above fail to do that



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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3957 on: March 03, 2025, 07:26:14 PM »
well Trump just stopped all military aid to Ukraine as I expected he would

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3958 on: March 03, 2025, 07:40:58 PM »
yup...step by step...

from now on, everything he can do to hurt ukraine
combined with everything he can do to help Russia
with FOX lying about it over and over

as soon as Trump cancels ALL sanctions
and Trump and his allies put pressure on europeans to not pull Russia's money for Ukraine
then it's the end game for Ukraine...

this should't take more than a few weeks/months at MOST to be at our door step, depending on whether or not Trump can do this solely through executive action
and since Trump is NOW the constitution, i'm sure it's totally constitutional for him to do so
I would not want to be that poor son of a bitch Zelensky, who is THE ONLY THING standing between Trump and Putin's Money Grab
like I always said, he's gonna be another crucified Jew

Pilate and Putin,
2 P,
Pushin P,
Purple Porsche,

click on the UTube link, don't know why embedding is tweaked

more gold

this is the summer, the whole world will be singin anti-fascist marchin songs like dis Oirish one



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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3959 on: March 04, 2025, 12:36:41 AM »
Was going to mention yesterday that Trump would probably end aid to Ukraine soon but had to get on with stuff, and so Trump beat me to it lol. Here's one news article for it anyway:

http://www.euronews.com/2025/03/04/trump-pauses-us-aid-to-ukraine-following-disastrous-oval-meeting

As most people are now seeing the Oval Office meeting was an ambush completely set up to scupper the Minerals Deal, stop current US military aid to Ukraine and probably at some point soon remove US sanctions.

You see to Putler stopping current US military aid to Ukraine is most pressing then the dropping of US sanctions. UK/EU sanctions area far greater economic issues than US sanctions as the EU is Russia's main market for oil & gas etc, being so close to Russia and in need of oil & gas.

Now this may sound strange to sone folks but I don't see the US stopping military aid to Ukraine as a bad thing, even as a supporter of Ukraine. I may be proved wrong but in my analysis of the situation it helps to remove a threat to Ukraine. With the US stopping it's military aid to Ukraine and Trump seemingly aligning himself with Russia it removes the situation where Russia can argue that the West, the US are all against it and it's an unfair advantage to Ukraine. That can be important in avoiding Russian use of WMD in Ukraine, if it's no longer seen as a one sided pointless battle by Russia.

The whole point of Ukraine's strategy is or at least should be to drain the Russian economy and military over several years by allowing Russian offensives to continue but checking them as best they can. Ukraine may and is losing small amounts of ground while doing this but the magic is working in Russia being hooked into thinking it is very, very slowly winning the war when in reality it is losing the war with its economy and military degrading over time until it's eventual defeat.

At this point in the conflict Ukraine likely does not need the US no more. Russia's military and it's economic ability to support it's military is now so poor that military aid from the UK/EU as well as it's own home grown Armaments industry should be enough to supply Ukraine's military with enough Armaments to hold on. As a defender Ukraine only needs so much Armaments to hold on as it only needs to sit it out there.

Had Kamala Harris won the Presidential Election it might have messed it all up for Ukraine. She would undoubtedly kept supplying Ukraine with military aid, maybe even moreso. That may have worked against Ukraine in Putler seeing it as a hopeless fight and being checked move to checkmate with the use of WMD's. So although on the surface Ukraine losing US military aid maybe seen as a bad thing I think potentially it may not be the worst thing for Ukraine.
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« Reply #3960 on: March 04, 2025, 08:38:32 AM »
As most people are now seeing the Oval Office meeting was an ambush completely set up
to scupper the Minerals Deal, stop current US military aid to Ukraine and probably at some
point soon remove US sanctions.

There was supposed to be an Oval Office signing ceremony with the press along to
record the historic event. 100% of the time everything is worked out in advance
every detail is agreed to and there have been zero ambushes in the Oval Office
in front of the press in American history.

Makes sense that the press would believe anything else since their most hated enemy*
is part of the signing ceremony.

*Do you hear those feet running in this direction? 17 posts with 270 unrelated thoughts
per post written in Pigeon English are about to arrive very soon.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3961 on: March 04, 2025, 09:08:12 AM »
since the age of 6, I have been an a-theist, after reasoning "it all out"
I have no religion
I have learned to reject MANY of the things I was told were true, becuz evidence suggests they are actually false
like religion, and MAGA talking points
reason is what guides me, and not belief
not only can I see what is FALSE, I can also see what is TRUE

my parents tried to coerce me into being "a Methodist" protestant, and not catholic
for my "own good" not based on GOD, but on "social convention"
so I rejected all the social/religious indoctrination they tried to lay on 6 year old me
eventually this led me to Israel, or rather them to me, and then I made Aliyah, cuz they made me "one hell of a good deal" if I was willing to get my hands "dirty" (no, not landscaping)

BEEL, how many pieces of paper has Putin already signed that guarantees Ukraine's "safety"
ya think another one will change things, what a foolish consistancy that is
and Zelensky was tryin to point that out, when Crazy Grandpa lost his mind on live TV, which YOU may not have seen on US media, cuz most censored it for Trump

"TRUMP: Well what if they-what if anything! What if a bomb drops on
your head right now? Okay? What if they broke it? I don't know. They
broke it with Biden because Biden, they didn't respect him, they didn't
respect Obama. They respect me. Let me tell you, Putin went through a
hell of a lot with me. He went through a phony witch hunt where they
used him and Russia-Russia, Russia, Russia, you ever hear of that deal?
That was a phony-that was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam.
Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff, it was a Democrat scam. And he had
to go through that. And he did go through it and we didn't end up in a
war. He went through it, he was accused of all that stuff-he had nothing
to do with it. It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. It came out of
Hunter Biden's bedroom. It was disgusting. And then they said, 'Oh, oh,
the laptop from hell was made by Russia.' The 51 agents, the whole thing
was a scam, and he had to put up with that. He was being accused of all
that stuff. All I can say is this: He might've broken deals with Obama,
and Bush, and he might've broken them with Biden. He did, maybe,
maybe he didn't-I don't know what happened. But he didn't break them
with me. He wants to make a deal. I don't know if he can make a deal."


Great Leader's plan...
oh but this is no ordinary piece of paper, this one has my name on it"
hmmm....impressive right?
this piece of paper is a SHIELD, that will totally protect Ukraine
in fact I call it "Paper Dome"
now that I have personally given Paper Dome to Ukraine
Zelensky can go ahead and
assign captured territory/people to Putin
cease production of all weapons, disarm and no longer accept any military aid
pinky swear it will never join NATO, (cause then Putin REALLY can't attack it)

the treaty is a prop, and is ONLY important for the great leader
as far as Ukraine is concerned, it's a worthless piece of paper
and that's all Trump was gonna give Zelensky for coming to the white house

but because he didn't bow down before the king
the king nailed Zelensky's turban to his head, for disrespecting the king

if you watch the replay, you can totally see the point where Trump goes "ballistic" after just one little comment from Zelensky contradicting Trump's claims
you may have to look abroad for an unedited version, this is the one ya want, whose words I quoted above

not a single MAGA knucklehead can look at Trump objectively, including BEEL
instead they all give Musk/Bannon Zieg Heils

for Trump the goal is not PEACE, it's PIECE, of Rosneft (think how much that'll be worth when sanctions go away)
and a PIECE of City Center for Trump Towers


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Not intended to be a peace deal
« Reply #3962 on: March 04, 2025, 09:48:32 AM »
As I understood from Trump and his 'anguishers' this was nothing to do with a peace deal.

This was only a commercial deal.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3963 on: March 04, 2025, 10:00:07 AM »
the commercial deal was the "shield", Ukraine's security guarantee from Donald Trump personally
Putin attacks Ukraine, General Bone Spur will come to Ukraine's aid
just like he did when he got his draft notice

Ukraine will only be protected by a piece of paper, signed by Trump, after it gives up all it's weapons
cuz Putin would never hurt any of Trump's interests in Ukraine, claims only Trump
but of course, the moment Trump isn't there...
it's so PRECIOUS how ya'll think Putin or Trump ever negotiate in "good faith"

Trump/Putin's primary goal is to get rid of sanctions, not end the war
you assume you have to do one to do the other
after checking "the rule book"
I can tell ya that there ain't no rule book

the 2nd goal, is as much as possible, leave Ukraine in a crippled state with no ability to defend itself
while Russia rebuilds it's military, after sanctions go away
to attack Ukraine agian

I guess ya'll just too danged clever, to understand such a simple strategy

in addition to loss of weapons and financial aid
a HUGE loss to Ukraine was the military intelligence Ukraine received from the USA
an irreparable loss, that actually helped make our military stronger as well

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3966 on: March 04, 2025, 05:13:00 PM »
this must be the fifth time I heard, he signed, no he didn't sign....

Translation
because of all the flack King Donald got from his handling of Zelensky, he now has to create spin to alter it
whatever Trump presents at the SOTU  will sound like "the cure for cancer and world hunger"
but will be lies, spin and gaslighting, like it ALWAYS is
and instead of being about peace in Ukraine, will be all about the greatness of Donald, and the horror of Biden and libruls

Europe is getting closer to handing over Russ-bucks
holdouts are German and French banks.....waaaaaaahhhhhh....money go bye bye.....

here's the Oirish press
http://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/jd-vance-zelensky-ukraine-russia-34790649

"zelensky doesn't want peace" and that "he considers himself to be deserving of privileges or special treatment.
like Zelensky was a liberal or 'somethin'
even though, of all the people in that meeting, Zelensky was THE ONLY ONE who wanted peace, cuz he's the only one who has PERSONALLY seen massacred Ukrainian civilians
what the republicans REALLY want is for Zelensky to surrender Ukraine to Putin, same as what Putin wants
this is the only peace they're after
and PEACE will bring PROSPERITY!
to Trump

they serve Trump, not the people of America, and certainly NOT peace
why do you think the military leadership is swearing loyalty to Trump and not the Constitution following fellow congressional republicans who do the same?





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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3967 on: March 04, 2025, 06:00:44 PM »
I think it's very possible that Trump and Vance attacked Zelensky and cut off aid to Ukraine as a ploy to make Putin think Trump is being hard on Ukraine.  I'm not holding my breath, but I think it's very plausible.

I also think that cutting off Ukraine aid will be challenged in court, and a judge will rule against Trump.  A President does not have the power by executive order to overturn acts of Congress that were signed by a previous President.  He doesn't have the authority to stop military aid that Congress already approved, and Biden signed.  (He might have the ability to stop aid in the form of military intelligence, unless that was funded in previous Congressional aid that Biden signed into law.)

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3968 on: March 04, 2025, 07:28:22 PM »
brilliant analysis, first rate
you get it
Putin is peace-loving. ...cuz he would prefer to take over Ukraine unopposed, without force
while Zelensky is in opposition to this, and so is in opposition to peace
just like Orwell said
war is peace, peace is war

but...
just noticed...yur profile sez "NONE yet" for trips

are you tryin to tell me, you  didn't even ONCE try goin to Ukraine?
not once...
just made a few "pay per letter" attempts  that went nowhere, that took ya 20 minutes to write

you quite the 'playa' holmes...
with all them Jordan Peterson vids
but when it comes to "boots on the ground" not so much playin then
and this applies to all the other details of your life

you a talker, and not a "doer'
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The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3969 on: March 04, 2025, 08:23:00 PM »
BEEL, how many pieces of paper has Putin already signed that guarantees Ukraine's "safety"

I do not approve of the way Trump handled this. First of all, you don't have a signing
ceremony in the White House with press UNLESS you have the details worked out
and negotiated ahead of the signing.

Trump had the cart in front of the horse. In my mind he F#cked up.

Having said all of this, Zelensky shouldn't have done it either. If he didn't like the
deal exactly as written (every word) he shouldn't have been there. If they were
going to negotiate anything that should be done behind closed doors without
camera's or reporters. Any signing ceremony is done then there is complete
agreement in every respect. 

Zelensky shouldn't publicly say anything bad about any of the participants except Putin.
If you want to throw North Korea in the mix that's fine. They both displayed exactly the
way NOT to do this.

This was a colossal Sh!t Show.

I explained how I would do it. Send 200 F-16's to Poland but don't say anything. Russia
would know they were moved there. Without saying anything to the press it would give
some leverage to Ukraine's bargaining position without creating a public threat to
Putin that would have to publicly respond to. 

The UK should have sent their supply ship to Gdansk. Then moved everything overland
on Trucks or trains.

That's my two kopecks
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3970 on: March 04, 2025, 09:12:25 PM »
Trump was the showman, it's his show - direct yur criticism there
Zelensky did EXACTLY as you suggested, negotiated out the part about Ukrainians being indebted for 10 generations for what was GIVEN to them by congress and Biden

the blow up on live TV came from Zelensky saying "you can't trust Putin"
when Zelensky said that, Trump went ballistic and gave his little temper tantrum I quoted in a previous post
you kinda have to address Trump like he's Louis Farrakan call him "honorable" "great" "wise" "god-like"...which to be fair...Zelensky really didn't do any of that
that was his phuque-up

Trump doesn't have "a plan for peace"
he has a plan "to get paid" by Putin for services rendered
just like Orban has

so in reality, it doesn't matter at all what Zelensky does or says, becuz, if he has to, Trump will figure a way around it, so that he gets paid
thus Ukraine's future is of no direct importance to Trump
it's just a means to an end
for what's important to Trump
which is to use Ukraine and the war, as a means to coax money from Putin into his own pocket, like he has, so many times before


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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3971 on: March 05, 2025, 02:59:31 AM »
Cutting off US aid is probably too late for Putler, already the tide is turning against the forces of Putler on the battlefield:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/lacking-drones-and-manpower-russian-troops-wearing-down-in-pokrovsk-direction/ar-AA1AfPLv

Putler can no longer take Pokrovsk, as the article states Russian forces are now lacking in Armaments to do so and if anything are being pushed into retreat in some places. Probably not long before the whole of the Russian Army comes under strain off a lack of Armaments and just struggles to hold onto the positions they have. By this Spring/Summer coming up shortly the stories we could be getting from the front in Ukraine could be very different. We could soon be hearing much I think about how Russian forces are lacking in any sort of Armaments or equipment at the front and are becoming in a poor state.

Meanwhile the British Government has announced that it will supply Ukraine with increased air defence missiles from its factory in Belfast. My guess is that Ukraine will have other avenues for Intelligence from the UK/EU to help it in its battlefield operations. Essentially though the cutting off US military help looks like it has fortunately come too little and too late for Russia.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3972 on: March 05, 2025, 04:41:07 AM »
In general I don't participate in political discussions.

But I wrote parts of this as an answer to a mail from a participant here.
Then just post it here instead.

The Ukraine mineral deal is sort of a scam,
Maybe Trump is using it as a warranty that USA has interests after a peace deal.

When hearing about the mineral deal, I was very surprised.
The reality about rare earth metals,
and the reason China is supplying almost 100% of the worlds consumption.
It's price,,,,
Having rare earth minerals in the ground and processing them for a profit is not the same.

Sweden has a lot of these rare earth metals, (Norway also)
and several of them are named after Swedish villages,,
as Swedish scientist were the first to discover them.
But mining them would be much more expensive than buying,,

Same goes for Ukraine, about rare earth metals.
Situation for mining Uran, Lithium and titanium is better, but not realistic today.
(and 60% are in the Russian controlled area)

I made a search and found two youtubes directly, that names it a scam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tILXLxMTmgA&t=379s/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya9WKaveRXU/

I haven't looked at them,
But I have looked at one other of the "Inside China Business" videos some time ago,
and bookmarked him as serious.

Trump is, as president in the absolutely strongest nation in the world,
for a period,, "King of The World"
With power to change the fate of more humans than any man before him. 

It's hard to understand, what is the masterplan behind some of Trumps actions.
Probably much more behind the curtain than what is visible for us.
Certainly some of those onboard with him, have minds of reason.
 
His economic "advisor / copilot" Stephen Miran is no idiot, neither is Trump.
Miran has some untraditional economic ideas, to say the least.
Time will tell,,,, if it fails or not,,,

One of the interesting videos of what is happening in the worlds geopolitic situation today.
And much in line with my own thinking,,,,

"George Friedman: Trump, Putin and Changing Global Realities"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knLXnai3Mk/

It doesn't look very good for Ukraine today.

The future for what remains of Ukraine after the war however, will be very good.
Large investments from the west, money and IP is flowing into Ukraine now,
and will continue for years to come.
Creating a foundation for more tech companies (where Ukraine is already very strong)
especially in the new emerging HiTech weapons industry based on AI and drones.
Where Ukraine is now leading because of the war.

Now is the time to invest in a coastal property, in or close to Odessa,,, :-)
 
Did some research on the history of Trumps life, and what has made him into the person he is today,,
Interesting to say the least,,
Did you know that he was a "close" friend of Nixon for more than a decade,
and was invited home for dinner together with him on several occasions

Jan



 
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3973 on: March 05, 2025, 07:06:48 AM »
Trump's "dirty trickster" Roger Stone, has a huge tattoo of Nixon on his back
Nixon's most famous quote "I am NOT a crook" haha
Trump's mentor was fellow New Yorker Roy Cohn
this is the person who trained Trump and made him what he is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn

the "Minerals Deal" is Trumps's equivalent of the piece of paper Chamberlain waved in front of everyone, which said, "Peace in our time!"
Chamberlain did this pro bono
Trump is getting paid for it, and as a bonus, expects to receive the Nobel Peace Prize
Sweden better give it to him, or after Denmark and Greenland" he's gonna go after Gotland
this is about the only REAL difference, because Trump is 100% transactional, "show me the money"
and Chamberlain was just an idiot who wasn't paid

thanks for the Friedman clip, I read some of his publications, years back, i'll give it a look
this is a REAL GOOD time to be too old to be drafted

a very contrarian view buying real estate in Ukraine NOW
same with the Russian stock market, that can only be accessed with a UnionPay Broker account
a small portfolio of Russian oil and gas stocks
to balance a cottage in the Carpathians, not far from the Hungarian Border
soon as I cross, I say "youragert kvonook"  Hungarian is a very unique European language
the Hungarian countryside looks like Ukraine, but the people don't look Ukrainian

all you europeans are "overthinking" this with yur geopolitical analysis
a simpler way to perceive it

Trump IS a liar and a crook
who was placed there by oligarchs to do their work
who is in alliance with Russia's biggest oligarch who is even richer than Elon Musk and is also a liar and a crook

Ukraine's ultimate future is that it's going to be divided
that's why I pick the Hugarian border region, cuz in the future it'll become part of Hungary, thanks to Orban's deal with Putin
I will be in Hungary
not because I will cross the border, no the border will cross me

then I haz EU citizenship, and I can ride trains all 'round Europa...
and can live in Amsterdam as an EU citizen
Hungary will have to make a language exception for Ukrainians, and I can sneak in with that
easy peasy for wife and me to become Ukrainian citizens
cause it's OK, to live like a refugee...

the US military is not as stong as people believe
it was hollowed out just like Russia's
and is extremely vulnerable to mass produced chinese AI guided missiles
so many, that it darkens the sky
and NO, the US Navy will not "fight in the shade"

PS


war is peace
only Trump wants peace
Zelensky wants war
Trump good - Zelensky bad

Tulsi Gabbard's voice is like Kari Lake's, and Elizabeth Holmes, the female baritone grifter voice, which to me is super sexy, and why Trump likes it
the voice is how they get the job of being a Trump whisperer
propaganda is an essential element of fascism
image is EVERYTHING, so there is no substance

guaranteed, that whenever FOX says, "the truth is..." whatever follows is gonna be an absolute lie

PS
Ukraine is not dead, yet...
if German and French banks can be convinced to let Putin's confiscated $Billions be the treasury for Ukraine's defense
it would be very much alive

http://www.cnn.com/2025/03/05/politics/us-pause-intelligence-support-ukraine/index.html
Trump disciplines Zelensky to not pee on the floor again
while HE'S WORKIN FOR PUTIN

bad dog, yur NOT gonna know when the Russians kill all yur people now...so ya better learn to be good
or next time, I'll hand ya over to Kristi Noem...as he rubs Zelensky's nose in the urine

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3974 on: March 06, 2025, 08:50:05 AM »
http://www.the-sun.com/news/13694373/trump-bans-britain-ukraine-war-intel/

this is Trump doing EVERYTHING he possibly can to hurt Ukraine...cuz that's what Putin pays him for, like Victor Orban
Trump's anti-NATO sentiment was made public when he published an anti-NATO screed, immediately after his visit to Moscow to get into the Real Estate Market back in the 80s
Trump didn't publish this for Trump, he published it for Russians...who in return....do stuff for Trump

Trump also wants to end refugee status for Ukrainians
they all need to immediately return to Ukraine and dig rare earth minerals for UkrTrumpCo

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/3/6/2308343/-Trump-targets-Ukrainian-refugees-plans-to-revoke-legal-status?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web

Trump's people are also privately meeting with Zelensky's political enemies in Ukraine


why is it sooooo hard for ya'll to believe
that Trump's "Peace Efforts" are all fake "Reality TV" that ya'll mistakenly think is REAL
corroborating evidence for this theory

32 felony convictions for fraud
Trump organization charged for their business fraud, CFO convicted
Trump Casino laundered Russian Money, and Trump was fined $10 million
Trump Towers WAS heavily involved in Russian money laundering
Trump stole from a kid's cancer charity, and is banned form operating charity
Russians ALWAYS try to help Trump win elections
Trump tried to steal the election in 2020
Trump University
and on and on and on and on.....

is it just me?
am I the only one to see a pattern here?

ya'll need to watch the movie "Moneyball"
then think about Trump and the "game" he plays
and stop being a freakin moron


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