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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4050 on: April 16, 2025, 07:21:47 AM »
http://twitter.com/i/status/1911871893663002853

there's so many nested stories in this...
the media in this country doesn't want to touch what Russians did to this guy's mother with staged photos of her son's body, for fear of offending Trump
let's just say, they violated the geneva convention...a bit...

you are now ruled by a tyrant who can exile citizens to an El Salvadore Gulag and none of you nitwits speak a word of spanish, HOLA AMIGOS!!!!

c'est le question

Is Paris burning?
can the USA and Ukraine survive for 3 years and 9 more months
or not...

to be, or not to be

PS
so not only did the former Fox News Host turned Secretary of Defense
conduct invasion planning openly (AKA "signalgate"), but did so with another member of the administration who was on-line in RUSSIA at the time!!!!  so Russians were listening and coulda warned Houthis over attack!!!!
dumb kopfs

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/4/15/2316601/-Russians-try-to-hack-NLRB-using-DOGE-created-account-and-password?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
and now "by coincidence" after Elon Musk gets access to federal databases, 10 minutes later Russians do as well

The Axis of Evil
is a lot closer than you think it is

the global oligarchy needs the USA's government to collapse from within to privitize it and to get rid of the global policeman and delete the old world order
to create "a new world order" of oligarch autocratic fiefdoms without oversight

Trump is the battering RAM, to tear down the existing middle-class social contract "new Deal"
to make you all become Mill Workers in a Dickens novel for the benfit of the plutocratic wall street class who should be considered social parasites and not rulers

slaves!!! throw off yur chains and rise up!!!!

I AM SPARTACUS

my son Bee Farmer is nick named "Spurtacus" for obvious reasons

PS
after Trump watched THIS


he wanted CBS shutdown completely and it's staff arrested for this story, google it!!!!
Trump wants telling the TRUTH to be a CRIME

we are not 3 months into Trump's administration and it's already an epic display of incomptence, massive corruption and lying
and it's starting to seem like something REALLY sinister is going on with what Elon Musk is REALLY up to with DOGE, etc.
and DOGE has no oversight, no accountability....

there is NO WAY TO DELAY
that TROUBLE COMING YUR WAY



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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4051 on: April 17, 2025, 05:35:42 AM »
Fighting the Oligarchs

“We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both.”
— Justice Louis D. Brandeis

dark money has insinuated itself into every corner of our politics to such a degree
THAT it controls EVERYTHING
elections are rigged through gerrymandering and voter supprssion

Why Trump?
the oligarchs are making a pre-emptive strike against future socialism
because they understand what's going to happen 10 years from now
make the government small enough NOW to drown in the bath tub
and you won't have to worry about them nationalising yur oil company in the 2030s

 
PS
if you were paying attention...
then you should understand that Putinism and Trumpism are the same thing
autocratic rule by oligarchy that makes people disposable maintained by a vast propaganda industry spreading lies to promote their own version of a fake reality
while attacking real journalists

In Russia, Putin can have a journalist shot on his Birthday
in the USA, Trump can threaten journalists with a lawsuit, throw you out of business, and prison like he's doing over "60 Minutes"
and NOW he can EXILE you to El Salvadore WITHOUT DUE PROCESS EVEN IF YOU ARE A US CITIZEN!!!!!!
not opposites...just difference of degree....
how far down the slope will America slide?

"write one or write many"
are you phuqueing kidding me?  that's so 2001...
it's 2025 man...

career apocalypse, collapsing economy, war in Ukraine
get real...

The most important question to ask?
Are Americans prepared for the trauma that will accompany the collapse of one regime and the emergence of another.

while yur thinking about the FSU
you gonna end up living in the Former United States of America aka FUSA

gee, I guess you waited too long...

PS
and while all this is "going on"
it looks like a couple of hundred billion $ is going to be put into AI infrastructure...
think about it...
what is the "payoff" from this investment going to be?
hint: layoffs

layoffs and a regressive tax shift through tarriffs
ya'll are so phuqued you gonna need a whole case of rape test kits
cuz to Trump, EVERYBODY is just another Stormy Daniels that Trump's gonna screw and lie about

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Bald and Bankrupt is back in Ukraine!!!
« Reply #4052 on: April 17, 2025, 06:28:51 PM »
http://youtu.be/-rVkoEaFbUY

PS
Russians are expecting "something major" to happen in Ukraine soon...

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4053 on: April 18, 2025, 06:55:58 AM »
dobre den Tovarische

oopsie - previous was wrong video from my Russian Doom Rock play list
note: all Russians by their nature are devoutly pessimistic, eta normalne

el correcto video



PS
http://apnews.com/article/rubio-ukraine-russia-war-trump-a90e3e49c276b75ed2542f2f0422ddd6

it looks like the USA will abandon Ukrainian peace talks by the end of the month
Trump is ALREADY selectively removing Russian sanctions
and will look for ways to do BIZNESS with Russians and maneuver around sanctions while slowly eliminating them

Russia ALREADY gets the majority of it's artillery shells from North Korea - whose factories are working 24/7 for Russian Rubles
and China is secretly supplying it weapons in exchange for oil
and most of Russia's drones come from Iran
so Russia's logisitics are just fine, spossiba bolshoi for asking!

Ukraine now has a shortage of air defenses, which Phutin is exploiting
Ukraine has offered to use European money to buy Patriots, but Trump is refusing ANY American weapons to Ukraine, under any circumstance
because...he ummm prefers peace, yeah, that's it, he prefers peace, he is a GREAT humanitarian doncha know, and clearly NOT a Russian Asset known as Krasnov

all the people reading this, have no idea how phuqued they're gonna be in a couple of years
or how the world will change from a cornucopia of plenty to an empty basket seemingly overnight
or that a "little dark age" is coming
and all the world will betray thee

all for none
and none for all

PS
When a Banker jumps out of a window, jump after him--that's where the money is. -- Robespierre

Robespierre always "cracks me up" he's hilarious




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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4054 on: April 19, 2025, 07:44:00 AM »
The Paris Peace Accords to end the Vietnam War took 5 years to negotiate.  the great negotiator Trump couldn’t even last 100 days on Russia and Ukraine.
the Ukraine PEACE DEAL was at it's core, actually just total surrender to Russia, and Trump couldn't convince Zelensky to do it and also "step down"...that's why it failed
so Trump is NOW telling Europeans to accept Trump's plan to help Russia and stop supporting Ukraine

http://kyivindependent.com/trump-admin-fed-up-with-europes-efforts-to-strengthen-ukraine-economist-reports/

becuz Trump is a known Russian asset, who gets paid for his efforts on behalf of the Russian oligarchy,
all the way back to the time he ran an anti-NATO ad in the NY Times after he came back from Moscow,
Russia is all about $$$ for Trump

http://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security
DOGE has nothing at all to do with efficiency...that's a LIE
it's how oligarchs are launching their coup against the poor and middle class to eventually privitize everything to themselves
Trump is the wrecking ball to take down EVERYTHING from The New Deal to Civil Rights and business/environmental regulations
to prevent a future Socialist government led by OAC, from nationalising the oligarchy after the debt bomb implosion in the 2030s
the primary goal of the oligarchy is to break social security, and not "fix it", make sure it fails, so it can then be privitized to Wall Street

you will SOON be living in a dystopia and not realize it becuz you can still buy pizza (if you have any money)




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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4055 on: April 19, 2025, 10:14:35 AM »
Trump's moan about Europe supplying Ukraine won't get anywhere and hasn't. It will just make those in the EU & UK more skeptical of his motives. Russia's economy is getting in a bad way, the boost it received from lots of government money being spent on military production is declining with declining government money for that military production:

http://fortune.com/europe/2025/04/10/russian-economy-grows-slowest-pace-2-years-plunge-oil-prices-could-make-things-much-worse/

Essentially as all of Russia's money has been spent (wasted) on the war and businesses in Russia go bust due to high inflation and interest rates, etc Russia gets in less tax money to spend on the war and so on. Russia has spent it currency reserves and is now in debt. The longer Russia continues this war the more it will see more economic indicators turn red. For Europe the longer the war continues the more it will bust up Russia's economy meaning Russia will be less of a threat in the future.

Russia getting military Armaments of North Korea & China will be costly for Russia one way or another. It's not a long term solution for Russia as it just busts up their economy more. Armaments supplies from North Korea & China are unlikely to give back Russia enough edge to win the war in the ground as they don't look like they are getting them in sufficient quantity. Ultimately Ukraine, the EU & UK just need to sit and hold on probably about until next year when Russia's economy gets into a real bad state. After that it's just a question of time until Russia snaps and falls apart.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4056 on: April 19, 2025, 11:03:37 AM »
the definition of "infinity" in Russian
the level of economic pain the Russian masses will accept from Putin

Ukraine's tide is receeding faster than BeeFarmer's Hair Line
it's ALREADY lost 60+% of its foreign support
and the other 40% is NOW being pressured by Trump in multiple ways

once Trump walks away from the "Peace Treaty" LOL
then Putin has carte blanche to do WHATEVER HE WANTS TO UKRAINE
with no pushback from Trump

with Trump semi pulling out of NATO
it makes a NATO response to a Russian "Red Line" in Ukraine less likely, the USA would likely veto it anyway
like the use of Russian WMDs for instance

just like the Germans tried to get an advantage from WMDs in Ypres in 1915 with Fritz Haber's first ethnic cleanser called "chlorine"
Zyklon B came later

that's IG Farben for ya, "Better Dying Through Chemistry" und der Rhineland
don't put mustard gas on yur sandwich

the worst gas victims of WWI were the guys who got got mustard gas on their hands but didn't know it, cuz blister didn't start
but later, wiped their ass
and got some mustard gas on their anus
would end up killing themselves due to the pain they'd suffer

if Putin could start a new front from Belarus
and/or low level WMDS...like Novichok
and use WMDS first against the military, and then against civilian targets
start out small, and keep escalating
NATO will "blink"

Putin has a whole contraband economy run by his daughter
for bartering Russian raw materials for Chinese goods
Russia is exempt from tarriffs, so Trump and Putin may figure out a way to do BIZNESS reselling Chinese goods
at the VERY LEAST, Trump wants Russians to be able to sink a couple of billion$ into $TRUMP crypto
so he needs to find ways to generate this cash flow
starting next month, this will be Trump's focus with Putin, "how to do Bizness, what and where and when"
what sanctions can be removed and in exchange for what?

the whole Russian economy rotates around the needs of the war and Putin and NOT the needs of the people, Putin doesn't care, as long as the system functions
Russia feeds North Korea's and Iran's Rocket and Nuclear Programs + $billions in cash from oil and gas in exchange for billions$ in weapons and mercenaries
one hand washes the other

Europe probably spends as much on Russian oil and gas as it does on Ukraine
how's that going to be a winning strategy?

ergo...Ukraine is on "borrowed time"
by summer, I'd expect the militray tide to be rapidly turning away from Ukraine
becuz their resources are MORE depleted than Russia's

and IF...
Trump is successful in curtailing European support, in the next few months
then...it's more or less...over...

Zelenksky will be replaced by Poroshenko who will surrender the "5 territories" and "pinky swear" to never join NATO to TEMPORARILY END THE WAR
and all Russian sanctions will be lifted

the world ends with a whimper and not a bang
but then later...
ends with LOTS of EXPLOSIONS

the US Military is not prepared for a Chinese Drone War
the sky darkened by their immense numbers descending like locusts

produced in stunningly HUGE Chinese Communist Party mega-factories where robots work along side slave labor
to make mobile hypersonic cruise missiles and rockets by the ship loads

and years of production is being stockpiled
and EVERY SINLE ONE could be fired at every USA military asset in the pacfic in 60 minutes
leaving nothing but smoking ruins in Guam, Diego Garcia, South Korea, Japan, etc, etc
all at the same time
 
after the first hour, the USA has nothing to hit back with except for strategic nuclear forces and nuclear attack submarines
everything else in the Pacific is gone
Asia and Australia are at China's mercy
china hunts us submarines




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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4057 on: April 21, 2025, 04:00:26 AM »
the definition of "infinity" in Russian
the level of economic pain the Russian masses will accept from Putin

Ukraine's tide is receeding faster than BeeFarmer's Hair Line
it's ALREADY lost 60+% of its foreign support
and the other 40% is NOW being pressured by Trump in multiple ways

once Trump walks away from the "Peace Treaty" LOL
then Putin has carte blanche to do WHATEVER HE WANTS TO UKRAINE
with no pushback from Trump

with Trump semi pulling out of NATO
it makes a NATO response to a Russian "Red Line" in Ukraine less likely, the USA would likely veto it anyway
like the use of Russian WMDs for instance

just like the Germans tried to get an advantage from WMDs in Ypres in 1915 with Fritz Haber's first ethnic cleanser called "chlorine"
Zyklon B came later

that's IG Farben for ya, "Better Dying Through Chemistry" und der Rhineland
don't put mustard gas on yur sandwich

the worst gas victims of WWI were the guys who got got mustard gas on their hands but didn't know it, cuz blister didn't start
but later, wiped their ass
and got some mustard gas on their anus
would end up killing themselves due to the pain they'd suffer

if Putin could start a new front from Belarus
and/or low level WMDS...like Novichok
and use WMDS first against the military, and then against civilian targets
start out small, and keep escalating
NATO will "blink"

the whole Russian economy rotates around the needs of the war and Putin and NOT the needs of the people, Putin doesn't care, as long as the system functions
Russia feeds North Korea's and Iran's Rocket and Nuclear Programs + $billions in cash from oil and gas in exchange for billions$ in weapons and mercenaries
one hand washes the other

Europe probably spends as much on Russian oil and gas as it does on Ukraine
how's that going to be a winning strategy?

ergo...Ukraine is on "borrowed time"
by summer, I'd expect the militray tide to be rapidly turning away from Ukraine
becuz their resources are MORE depleted than Russia's

and IF...
Trump is successful in curtailing European support, in the next few months
then...it's more or less...over...

Zelenksky will be replaced by Poroshenko who will surrender the "5 territories" and "pinky swear" to never join NATO to TEMPORARILY END THE WAR
and all Russian sanctions will be lifted

the world ends with a whimper and not a bang
but then later...
ends with LOTS of EXPLOSIONS

the US Military is not prepared for a Chinese Drone War
the sky darkened by their immense numbers descending like locusts

 
after the first hour, the USA has nothing to hit back with except for strategic nuclear forces and nuclear attack submarines
everything else in the Pacific is gone
Asia and Australia are at China's mercy
china hunts us submarines

Unless they get their hands on one of these:

http://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-troops-shoot-down-swarm-of-over-drones/

UK/EU help to Ukraine might not be as noticeable enough as first thought. Weapons such as these can turn the tide on the battlefront. Imagine if Ukrainian Drones could fly but Russian Drones were knocked out en-masse. That would then give Ukraine a battlefield advantage against Russia. They probably wouldn't need that battlefield advantage for long to break Russian forces in Ukraine.

If we think of how big a threat the Nazis became in Europe and that was just Germany. With the UK, France, Germany and the rest of the EU all acting together to help Ukraine I think that Ukraine has a good chance of winning. Russia's economy can be pushed on but it's output will continually fall which will undermine it's efforts at the front making it's efforts weaker & weaker over time. At the moment Russia is trying to cobble together what it can to keep up the offensive but it's beginning to lose power. In Pokrovsk already the Ukrainians are starting to push Russia back. Russia will only get worse over time in its military and in its economy.

Zelensky has turned out to be the ideal wartime leader, he is not willing to quit and be quietly beaten. To some extent he has little choice as his fate is probably largely tied with the war. In Ukraine there seems to be enough support among the people for Zelensky to avoid calls for Elections. Zelensky has played a skillful game so far dodging all the pitfuls that have come up. The West knows that winning against Russia is the long game that must be played in Ukraine. A sudden change of fate in Ukraine's favour too much too soon will make Putler more likely to move to unconventional warfare. However, over time if Russia's economy and military becomes degraded by an ebbing away that is less noticeable and less dramatic until Russia wakes up one day and realises things haven't worked out in Ukraine for it, then Russia will likely decide the game is up having gotten thoroughly fed up with the situation and leave, or changes in Russia at the top will take place to allow this to come about.

The next few weeks & months are crucial. If Ukraine can push back and show that Russia hasn't the power needed anymore then that will bolster Ukraine's position. It's allied will become emboldened and see that Russia can be beaten and no longer has the upper hand. At that point no one will want to know about agreeing to Russia's demands. That is what Russia is most trying to stop the world from seeing at the moment that it is becoming increasingly weak, too weak to be in any position to make demands.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4058 on: April 21, 2025, 07:38:49 AM »
Trump/Putin's strategy is to cut-off Ukraine's logistics
starve the beast
the beast surrenders
and full-on Russian money laundering resumes in Real Estate and Crypto

after this week, the ONLY thing Trump is doing "about Ukraine"
is blackmailing European leaders into cutting Ukrainian support

meanwhile Trump has cut-off EVERYTHING the USA was providing Ukraine
AND put a tarriff on all Ukrainian exports but NOT Russian
AND has extorted Ukraine's most important assets for a privately owned NY LLC

and everybody is pretending this is "normal" and not the road to fascism
while the oligarchy is also ripping up The New Deal

meanwhile, America has had a mini-Maidan
this is just the beginning, it will grow and grow

the turning point will be when the protests are no longer peaceful
and instead of just a protest, it becomes an open revolt against Trump's fascism by the people

it's a big hill to climb
wait...and see...

it's in the slow "linear" phase now
it gets interesting only when it hits the "exponential" phase...maybe next year?

Trump lies about EVERYTHING
http://x.com/i/status/1914046258643419578

DOGE impact on the budget is MINIMAL
because it's NOT about efficiency, Elon is lying
it's meant to be a prelude towards privitization of the US government to the oligarchy

tarriffs paid for by the poor and middle class will be used to offset tax cuts to the billionaires
even with that, the USA will have a deficit of $2.5 to $3.0 trillion this year which will be added to the total
tarriffs drive up interest rates and add inflation
every intro to economics published in the last 75 years will have a chapter on why Trade Wars were ALWAYS disasterous and magnified the 1930s depression
Trump is doing it ANYWAY....

non-linear dynamics
you keep adding to the deficit and interest grows, the system is stable
until the interest on the debt exceeds all taxes collected...then it's unstable and game over
welcome to the 2030s


blueprint for the resistance
http://x.com/i/status/1914145333623349564

we need celebrity endorsements


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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4059 on: April 22, 2025, 08:45:51 AM »
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Trump's "end game" to work around Russian sanctions caused by the Ukrainian war is still to come
The US proposals presented to Ukraine in Paris last week envisage Washington's formal recognition of "The 5 Territories"
and the lifting of sanctions on the Russian Federation as part of a future deal.
In exchange, the Russian Federation would cease hostilities in Ukraine.

Zelensky has signaled that these terms are "not acceptable", it amounts to surrender
so...if Ukraine doesn't sign....nor does Russia
will Trump remove Russian sanctions anyway???

we'll find out by the end of next month

Putin is trying to "buy time" with Ukraine
for what purpose?
can he see into the future, and tell that later this year, Ukraine will have nothing to fight with?
and that shifts EVERYTHING to his favor, assuring his ultimate victory over Ukraine

the more Trump distances himself from Ukraine
the bolder it will make Putin, in terms of the amount of damage he'll inflict on Ukraine
I'd expect Putin to "kick it up a notch" after Victory Day
and things get "down and dirty"

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The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4060 on: April 22, 2025, 03:30:56 PM »
Trump's moan about Europe supplying Ukraine won't get anywhere and hasn't.

The EU doesn't even want to defend themselves, they think the USA should do that.
The EU sure isn't going to defend Ukraine, they sent more money to Russia than they
did Ukraine, for every year of the war. Who gives money to Putin? Trump or the EU?
Who is Putin's B!tch? Trump or the EU?

"Despite a range of sanctions and the threat posed by dependence on Russian energy, in the third
year of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in particular remain
largely unchanged, totalling EUR 21.9 bn, a 6% year-on-year drop in value but merely a 1% year-
on-year drop in volumes.

Notably, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in the third year of the invasion surpassed the
EUR 18.7 billion of financial aid they sent to Ukraine in 2024.
"

Source
http://energyandcleanair.org/publication/eu-imports-of-russian-fossil-fuels-in-third-year-of-invasion-surpass-financial-aid-sent-to-ukraine/

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #4061 on: April 22, 2025, 09:42:53 PM »
The EU doesn't even want to defend themselves, they think the USA should do that.
The EU sure isn't going to defend Ukraine, they sent more money to Russia than they
did Ukraine, for every year of the war. Who gives money to Putin? Trump or the EU?
Who is Putin's B!tch? Trump or the EU?

"Despite a range of sanctions and the threat posed by dependence on Russian energy, in the third
year of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in particular remain
largely unchanged, totalling EUR 21.9 bn, a 6% year-on-year drop in value but merely a 1% year-
on-year drop in volumes.

Notably, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in the third year of the invasion surpassed the
EUR 18.7 billion of financial aid they sent to Ukraine in 2024.
"

Source
http://energyandcleanair.org/publication/eu-imports-of-russian-fossil-fuels-in-third-year-of-invasion-surpass-financial-aid-sent-to-ukraine/

Not all of that money in fuel revenue will find it's way into the Russian war machine. The Russian government will just take a percentage of the profit in tax, the rest will go to Oligarchs and their associates, to shareholders, etc.

The Russian economy has sky high inflation & interest rates. The EU/UK economy does not. Russia is wasting a lot of it's money on cruise missiles & drones to attack civilians in Ukrainian cities. Hitler used the same failed strategy to Blitz UK cities during WWII. It's ultimately a waste of resources and archives little. Russia is also using poor strategy in its war in Ukraine most of the way through it. That poor strategy will take it's toll and increasingly turn Russia into the losing force.

Overall, the money Russia will have to spend at the front is decreasing and they are increasingly relying on buying supplies from foreign countries at great expense such as North Korea & China as they struggle to produce their own. Western Armaments are helping to chew up most of any Armaments Russia can get to the front. Now Russia is starting to show signs of weakness in its fourth year of war in Ukraine.
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« Reply #4062 on: April 24, 2025, 12:58:47 PM »
Not all of that money in fuel revenue will find it's way into the Russian war machine. The Russian
government will just take a percentage of the profit in tax, the rest will go to Oligarchs and their
associates, to shareholders, etc.

Is that what you tell yourself to feel better? The Euros cut off their nose to spite their face, but you
point out that a persons eyes are more important than their nose. The Euro's were never serious
about helping Ukraine or even their self militarily. The USA needs to leave NATO, it has outlived
it's usefulness. The USA is in too much debt to continue. It's far more important for the world
that our economy doesn't crash than to support Europeans inability to take care of themselves. 

Hitler used the same failed strategy to Blitz UK cities during WWII. It's ultimately a waste of resources

The second that Ukraine uses their last anti-air missile, Ukraine will be only a half step ahead
of the Taliban. Russia can send it's big bombers to level everything in every city in Ukraine.

Germany never had air supremacy or even air superiority over the allies. Germany never had
a 4 engine heavy bomber, none of the axis powers did. You are comparing apples and oranges.
The allies bombed Germany and Japan nearly into dust. Was that a waste of resources?.

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« Reply #4063 on: April 24, 2025, 02:41:46 PM »
Is that what you tell yourself to feel better? The Euros cut off their nose to spite their face, but you
point out that a persons eyes are more important than their nose. The Euro's were never serious
about helping Ukraine or even their self militarily. The USA needs to leave NATO, it has outlived
it's usefulness. The USA is in too much debt to continue. It's far more important for the world
that our economy doesn't crash than to support Europeans inability to take care of themselves. 

The second that Ukraine uses their last anti-air missile, Ukraine will be only a half step ahead
of the Taliban. Russia can send it's big bombers to level everything in every city in Ukraine.

Germany never had air supremacy or even air superiority over the allies. Germany never had
a 4 engine heavy bomber, none of the axis powers did. You are comparing apples and oranges.
The allies bombed Germany and Japan nearly into dust. Was that a waste of resources?.

Putler Lova are we Beel lol.

Sitting there with a Red MAGA hat and Trump flag in hand? ;D

The EU/UK can defend itself without the help of the US against Russia.

Russia is in a very weak state now both economically and militarily. Add up all the conventional forces in the EU/UK and they will more than outmatch Russia in power. THE UK, Germany, France, Sweden, etc are the mig military powers in Europe. Combined with many other nations, Finland, Poland, Italy, Spain, etc they would be a formidable force against Russia's now shattered Army.

Only, the best way to defeat Russia is for Ukraine to do the job for us. Ukraine unfortunately wasn't given any choice in the matter. However, Ukraine has exhausted Russia over the course of the last three years of intense continuous heavy fighting. Russia has now lost most of its Armoured vehicles, tanks and artillery. It's force it large but largely untrained conscripts of poor quality and now poorly armed. UK/EU combined forces would easily kick their butt and seend them in full flight, but it's more strategically expedient for Ukraine to do this. Russia heading into 2026 with this war is going to be a wreck both economically and militarily. It's only a matter of time from there on out before they fall apart and have to chuck it in.


Germany in WWII would have gained air superiority over the UK that stood alone at the time had they not switched from targeting military airfields, etc and onto civilian targets. The RAF were days away from defeat when a wayward RAF bombing mission in Germany hit residential areas thinking it was the industrial/military target they were supposed to hit. That enraged the Germans and Luftwaffe tactics switched to targeting UK cities in reprisal. That gave the RAF time to recover and eventually gain the upper hand over the Luftwaffe. If it wasn't gif that quirk of fate we might all be speaking the modern German language in the UK today.
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« Reply #4064 on: April 25, 2025, 12:21:31 AM »
Of course what you are forgetting Bill is that the US signed the Budapest Memorandum to guarantee and give assurances for Ukraine's territorial integrity in exchange for it giving up it's nuclear weapons. So yes the US should honour the assurances it gave in the Budapest Memorandum and keep giving Ukraine all the funding and armaments it needs or give Ukraine back nuclear weapons from its arsenal instead.

So whatever debt the US gets into backing Ukraine it is duty bound too due to the Budapest Memorandum. Otherwise if it's word means nothing the US should tell the world that so we all know not to sign such agreements with it  ;)
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« Reply #4065 on: April 25, 2025, 02:56:33 PM »
Putler Lova are we Beel lol.

Sitting there with a Red MAGA hat and Trump flag in hand? ;D


F#CK You, I don't like Putin, he is a murdering psychopath. Are you praying for Sharia Law?
That is what your country is doing. You can be sent to jail for a politically incorrect
Facebook posts. Are you sitting their with your Rajasthani Pagri and screaming
Ally Buck-tar? While sniffing around for underage boys and girls?

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« Reply #4066 on: April 25, 2025, 03:04:36 PM »
The Budapest Memorandum

You know that the UK signed it as well.  (France signed a separate agreement). If the USA didn't sign
the agreement, a corrupt general would have sold all of the nukes off to the highest bidder.
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