Best of Intentions meet the Worst of Intentions

[TexasBoar]

They say the camera never lies . . .

~Boar

[beattledog]

Just take your time and you will find that special lady again.  You and many ladies, in the future,  may part ways before you find that special woman.  It is best to take the time  to find that special woman.  This way, you will have no regrets

beattledog

[acrzybear]

What's with the plutoniumist issues Phil? I have a bar of the stuff under my bed, makes me glow man, yeah glow. Phil, it's full of stars.....

I've had three Duvel's!

Ste

Damn Ste

And I thought that photo of you was photoshopped with a light bulb hanging from the ceiling, not "untouched" with that natural glow about you. 

[Jet]

Okay, whose mug shot is that?  Looks like a driver's license perhaps.

It's an older INS "ADIT" style 3/4 view immigration photo, everyone looks horrible in those.

[Phil dAmore]

Little-known, but true (I think) fact:

The camera that is most commonly used for mug shots is the same type of camera that is used for drivers license photos or passport photos.

Somewhere I read that if you look like your passport photo you are probably too sick to travel

[ConnerVT]

It's an older INS "ADIT" style 3/4 view immigration photo, everyone looks horrible in those.

Not true, Jim.  My wife looks great in the one we had done in Tver.  It was done by a former LTP photographer, if I remember correctly.  Perhaps it's the B/W photo, and she was wearing a black and white leopard print shirt...   

[SouthernYankee]

Greetings, everyone. I'm a new face around these parts (Registered and lurked a bit for a few days) but a veteran with computers and the internet.To be totally honest, I have been around computers since 1984 when I fiddled around with a Tandy TRS-80 and I was only 7 years old at the time (I'll be hitting the big "Three Oh" in about 4 months). So to many of you, I'm still probably a youngster, but I tend to associate myself better with the more mature groups (mentally mature, to be precise).

I guess everyone has their story as to why they have decided to look for a FSUW, so here is mine. It all started back in 2002 when I was (at the time) working in a fast food restaurant (after having been laid off from a manufacturing company) and I met a couple of co-workers named Hellen and Natasha (both of them were sisters) who hailed from the Russian Federation (though I can't remember for the life of me as to which city/town in Russia). After getting to know the two of them I had been the recipient of flirtatious gestures from Natasha (the younger sister). I never really took any of her gestures into account since she was still a minor (she should be about 24 now give or take a year, but don't quote me on that) and that I also have my own moral code to never mix business with pleasure, but rather motioned that we remained colleagues. We remained colleagues till 2003 (when I had started my current job at a worldwide appliance manufacture of nearly three years now) and contact had ceased. I guess that Natasha was the one who kinda sparked my curiosity about learning the Slavic cultures (and hopefully being a husband to a Slavic woman for a better understanding of the cultural differences between the two of us) since my family background has a Slavic history but I, myself, am totally Americanized (born and raised in the States).

I guess it is a good time to go back to the original topic at hand. I remembered reading about this story in a news article at an online marriage agency network back in July.The link to the article via the agency. The story is the same one that Maxx (who has provided a lot of information for being in contact with the victim, Gary) has provided though some of parts of the article have been changed a bit (that's the American press for you). Personally, It simply astounds me as to how low people will go in order to achieve their self-centered ambitions and not giving any thought about those who they may/have victimized which includes the victims who are members of their own family. From my point of view, that is going lower than the lowest of lows.

[BC]

Yankee,

Welcome on board!

You might want to repost your intro in the welcome section of the board. Here it is bound to get lost in this long thread.

[SouthernYankee]

Thank you for welcoming me to the community, BC and will certainly take note of your suggestion to make another introduction in the appropriate forum. Though I normally tend to refrain from introducing myself in foum sections that are specifically meant for introductions, since I prefer to get right to the point and have something to contribute to the topic to which I am discussing. I am thinking that it is a quality over quantity mentality that message board staff members normally have when posting in the forums. *shrugs*

Though I am hoping that the US Government will get a clue (after taking the civil cases though the Grand Jury from what it may appear) and deny Elena's full residential status. I mean even a family member of Elena's (Alexandra) testified (along with providing evidence) against Elena during the DV trial held against Gary and that isn't exactly something to be overlooked by the court system.

[Maxx2]

I mean even a family member of Elena's (Alexandra) testified (along with providing evidence) against Elena during the DV trial held against Gary and that isn't exactly something to be overlooked by the court system.

You may not have read the entire article you posted a link to. What happened was that the local media (Channel 12 CBS Sioux City IO) had an interest in this story and was about to send a camera crew down to the courthouse. They called Gary to see if the case was still on and Gary told them to call the DA. They must have because the DA called Gary's lawyer right away and said they wanted the case to go away. They were willing to accept a plea bargain of a guilty to "disrupting a 911 call" and they would drop the DV case. Gary was advised by his attorney to accept this plea to avoid a trial and it's costs. He told Gary that he could win the case but it would cost him $3000. I am rather disapointed how it ended but I remind myself that few of these cases end in justice being served. Even with complete exoneration and a big local media splash about it I am 100% certain the INS would do nothing. Why? because I know RW who claimed abuse and got their Green Cards with more damaging evidense against them than Gary's wife had. One commited identity theft by assuming a K-1 fiancee identity with another RW who had gone back to Russia. The other entered the US as a fiancee and married her American fiance. Only thing was she wasn't free to marry as she was still married to another man from Europe. So she commited bigamy as well as lying on her federal documents. The INS knows about all of this but would rather let it slide to avoid (IMO) the embarassment of how slipshod their work is. It is my goal to film stories about all of this and offer this on streaming video over a website as a resource of interesting researched stories for the media. I have had 3 contacts with them about this and they were enthused. I have all the equipment for this and have started the process. It will keep me busy for a while.   

BTW welcome to the board

Maxx

[Son of Clyde]

It seems to me a large number of these horror stories end up with the woman being perfectly free to remain in the US. She fleeces a decent guy for a meal ticket to the US.

There may be another side to the story because some of these women really do not like the US and may use the guy for a ticket back home.

Maxx, I hope you will be able to present every possible scenerio.

[Maxx2]

I got an e-mail from Gary today. He said while he was at the post office his sister who works at his business got a call from a detective. She got no details except Gary's ex-wife Elena was arrested and he wanted to talk to Gary. Gary said he called the Des Moines police department and they have no record of her being arrested or held there. So we are thinking INS although it could be something else. Perhaps another police department? The USCIS calls their people in I.C.E., Immigration, Customs and Enforcement, investigators. Perhaps the sister got the word wrong? Elena did have allot of media attention regarding her and her diary, the FOX5 news show in Washington DC and the news show in Sioux City, Iowa. I'll keep you updated. 

Maxx

[Maxx2]

Scammers and Suspect Agencies
Caution: Do NOT be overly paranoid, but arm yourself with information and be prepared.

Yes, and the way to arm yourself with information is to ask tough questions like the one's asked in the thread that was recently locked and will probably sink into cyberoblivia. http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=2649.0 You can learn allot things from it about how men like Gary get taken in by agencies that do not keep close tabs on their interpreters. Gary's ex-wife was an interpreter for a bogus letter writing agency.

This is as good place as any to announce my resignation from this board.

Dan can end my membership 

So long and please send warning PM's instead of posts. The former don't get locked.

Maxx

[Bruce]

"Elena did have allot of media attention regarding her and her diary, the FOX5 news show in Washington DC and the news show in Sioux City, Iowa. I'll keep you updated." 

Maxx, how will you keep us updated if you leave the board?  Think of how many guys you are helping by staying on the board.  It would be a huge loss for this board if you choose not to post your extremely valuable information. 

[Bruno]

This is as good place as any to announce my resignation from this board.

Maxx, what do you seek ? Because someone don't follow the way that you wish, you try to take the role of a victim... after accusing the owner of these forum to be not partial because he have not choose your side ! Are you a coward of what ? Say what you wish to say but don't try to show that you are a victim...

Don't try to have the total victory on the evil world... Same if i don't agree with all your writing, if your words have only save one guy from a GCG ( your expertise domain ), i think that it is already a victory and one reward for you... follow your own advice who is :

Caution: Do NOT be overly paranoid, but arm yourself with information and be prepared.

[Bruce]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Posters that comment about someone elses appearance are really missing the boat.  Sure some couples "look good together."  Just because a couple "looks good together," does not mean their marriage will last.  Plenty of couples that "seem strange" or look odd have successful marriages.  For instance, look at all the "successful" truly interracial couples ie. asian / white or hispanic / white that exist.

[DKMM]

Anybody ever read "A Russian Bride" by Steve Alexander?  Sounds like this story.  What a crazy plot, what happened to the ending?  Maybe I'm too late on this thread...

About that poor Michael guy, that is an amazing email.  I'm surprised he didn't have her killed.

[golden25]

Gary sent me e-mail on what is going on here. I am off
the RW boards and on to other things so I will write
my thoughts on all of this and add some clarifications
for him to post here.

The looks issue came up I understand. I have visited
Gary several times to get his story.  So I know what
he looks like in person better than a low resolution
photos posted here. Gary is an average looking guy, a
“5”. Elena from her ADIT photo is an average looking
woman, a “5”. Gary needed to lose weight. Elena needed
breast implants. Gary needed to lift weights and firm
up. Elena needed a tummy, chin and butt lift. They
were two middle age adults in their forties.

Gary hosted his profile at an agency. He made no first
contact but waited to be contacted first, Soon he was
contacted by women 20 years younger than himself. Here
are these women’s photos.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k131/Maxx_1953/W720-1.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k131/Maxx_1953/W672-1-1.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k131/Maxx_1953/W492-2-1.jpg
He sent them kind “I’m flattered but no thank” you
letters back.
Elena contacted him after about a month of this. She
looks like this,

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k131/Maxx_1953/ElenaandSasha-1.jpg

She was 40 years old. Gary was 39. Elena was trying to
be a fitness fanatic judging by the 8 inch think
printouts of health and fitness pages she left behind.
Elena bought special food for herself and her
daughter. Gary had to shift for himself. Elena went to
the gym down the street now and then that Gary got her
membership too. She did not encourage him to come
along with her. A loving wife would.
 
Gary was clueless about the need for washboard abs to
make one of these marriages work as he was clueless
that men should not wear leather Harley type jackets
and white sport shoes. How is an American to know that
Russians judge you by your leather dress shoes and cut
of your clothes? Gary wore a beard. Later he shaved it
off. She told him to grow it back because he “looked
like a boy”.

Where Gary failed is giving her a pass on her
unethical behavior at her job at the agency. She was
the one that sent him those photos above and made up
the bogus come on letters of those hot women. He gave
her the benefit of the doubt that she did not want to
do this. That she was forced to. He believed she was a
good woman who was forced to do bad things.

 Gary has since then wised up. He won’t be seduced
again by a woman with a shady background and a glamour
photo.
 
Maxx

[Maxx2]

Here's the update

She got her "Green card"



10 years of perminent residency. No conditions. You happily married men applying for your wife's Green cards should be given such a break.

If you think this story is over it is not...

Maxx

[Phil dAmore]

Here's the update

She got her "Green card"

How?  HOW was this possible?  That woman needed to be deported on a leaky, rat infested steamer back to Russia, and then arrested upon arrival.

How the H3LL did she get a green card? ???

[golden25]

Question for you Legal eagles out there, i checked on iowa courts on line showing all filings to do with my divorce. below is what came up on iowa courts on line, can anyone tell me what the legal term { NUNC PRO TUNC } means?   see text below
 

Thanks  Golden25


Title: GARY LEE OLDENKAMP VS. ELENA OLDENKAMP
Case: 03841 CDCD021081 (SIOUX)
Event    Filed By    Filed    Create Date    Last Updated
OTHER EVENT       10/23/2006    10/23/2006    10/23/2006
     Comments: RETURN OF MAIL
                        (MAIL SENT TO ELENA WAS RETURNED, ORDER NUNC PRO TUNC
                        ENCLOSED.)
OTHER ORDER    WENELL GARY E    10/16/2006    10/17/2006    10/17/2006
     Comments: ORDER NUNC PRO TUNC
                        (THAT THE RESP. SHALL BE RESTORED TO HER MAIDEN NAME OF
                        ELENA SEMECHKINA.)
OTHER APPLICATION       10/13/2006    10/16/2006    10/16/2006
     Comments: APPLICATION FOR ORDER NUNC PRO TUNC
                        (FILED BY MICHELLE SAVERAID AND R SEASE ATTYS)
OTHER EVENT       04/18/2006    04/18/2006    04/18/2006
     Comments: STATS REPORT
                        (SIGNED AND SEALED. )
COMPUTER GENERATED NOTICE       04/13/2006    04/13/2006    04/13/2006
     Comments: Judgment Letter
COURT DECREE - DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE    COURTNEY DON E    04/13/2006    04/13/2006    04/13/2006

[William3rd]

All it means that the court is doing now (on that date) something that should have been done before with effect from the prior date.

"NOW FOR THEN"

[Daveman]

I just now read this thing.  Holy freakin' hell.  What an evil ride.

[1russiangirl1]

yep,  she's already got her citizenship! congrats!
Btw, anybody knows what her daughter is doing? Has she accomplished her goal to become a model?

[therussianbuster]

So Elena is now Elena [removed surname] and lives in Des Moines Iowa. She is collecting unemployment but is apparently working as a Massage Therapist at the East Village Spa in Des Moines and at Central Iowa Compounding in Urbandale Iowa. She claims on the East village Spa web site that she was a civil engineer! From what I have been told Sasha  is now an escort in New York City.