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Asian Persuasion?!?
« on: May 30, 2019, 06:03:31 PM »
Hi folks.

New here but wanted to drop a short dossier since I figured that this is the place to do it.

My name is Albert.

Place of residence: Murray, Utah.
Education: Vanderbilt University- BA in English lit/creative writing in 1997; Yale University- MPH in epidemiology in 2001; now back in school here at the University of Utah studying photography (BFA) and computer science with video game design (BS) after a long hiatus.
Relationship status- currently committed to working on a relationship from a lady from the Volgada Oblast region; she is flying here tomorrow to SLC to be with me for a month.
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Book tastes- Everything literary. I really am deep into postmodern philosophy like Deleuze, Derrida, Walter Benjamin (very huge into the Frankfurt School). Also Russian literature.
Ethnicity- Taiwanese-American.

I have a wide range of hobbies like video games (which is why I am going into video game design) to travel to napping (j/k sort of) to being a foodie (Alinea, here we come...) to spending time meditating as I am a Buddhist. Politically I consider myself a democratic socialist with some conservative values (particularly when it comes to gay marriage and abortion and dealing with weed legalization) to some pro-left values (particularly when it comes to economics and treatment of the poor as I am pretty anti-corporate). I am also reasonably financially stable so no worries there.

In any case, I guess that it will be interesting to see how tomorrow goes and I will post updates regarding that adventure  on this forum. :)
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Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2019, 06:41:02 PM »
Hi-
Hopefully you can have fun posting here.

Impressive academic background. English is actually my 4th language, but I’m humbled telling you persuasion is the correct spelling of the word.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2019, 06:54:14 PM »
I saw the bad spelling just a few seconds ago so going to correct it. Thanks!
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2019, 07:37:07 PM »
Hi,

I saw in another post that you said your lady met you on Zoosk.  How long have you known her?  How do you communicated with her.

I hope it all goes well tomorrow. 

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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2019, 07:41:03 PM »
Not that long ago honestly. Maybe about six weeks ago. Tomorrow she arrives on a tourist visa via her travel agency, Vit-Tour (http://vit-tour.com/). Feeling somewhat nervous but happy at the same time! :)

So far, we have e-mailed and spoken a few times on the telephone.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2019, 07:50:35 PM by SocialistNerd »
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2019, 11:07:45 PM »
So far, we have e-mailed and spoken a few times on the telephone.


Only exchanged a few emails and talked on the phone a few times and she's ready to spend thousands to visit you? Lucky guy.

It's hard for an FSU woman to get a tourist visa to America. Seen a few guys come on the forum and say a woman is coming to visit them and on the day of the flight, the women call the men and tell them they have a problem that is solved with money. It's a cleaver scam because they know men who think with their little head make unwise decisions.

If she comes, great! If she makes the call the day of the flight and needs money, say goodbye.
There are people that will pass info about you and your family. Do not share info about yourself or share photos as they can search for you on the internet and distribute what they found since they are allowed to participate here.

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2019, 01:28:27 AM »
I hope it works out for you. If she arrives, I’d love to know her circumstances and what she put in her visa application to get approved.

I talked to a visa specialist today and enquired about another attempt to bring K to Australia on a tourist visa. He basically laughed at me and said she’ll just be disappoint again when it gets denied. The state of play here is her only chance for a tourist visa is if we are married or engaged.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2019, 01:48:10 AM »
Welcome to the forum, 'SocialistNerd' !

I am sorry, but this all sounds too good to be true.

I hope you did not send a lot of money to help pay for the trip...

I say this as you suggest emails and talking..was the extent of your 'relationship'..

Really, will be pleased to be proven wrong and hope you'll forgive us sceptics...

We have seen this type of excitement too many times, turning into shame.


If it turns out we were correct...DO NOT feel ashamed...

Let other's be warned..


If you wish to announce, ALL US WONDERFUL and shame us doubters..

Feel free!
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2019, 02:45:19 AM »
Welcome to the forum, 'SocialistNerd' !

I am sorry, but this all sounds too good to be true.

I hope you did not send a lot of money to help pay for the trip...

I say this as you suggest emails and talking..was the extent of your 'relationship'..

Really, will be pleased to be proven wrong and hope you'll forgive us sceptics...

We have seen this type of excitement too many times, turning into shame.


If it turns out we were correct...DO NOT feel ashamed...

Let other's be warned..


If you wish to announce, ALL US WONDERFUL and shame us doubters..

Feel free!

It would be great to see a fsu woman get a tourist visa the current climate of almost certain rejection.

I know all woman are different, but one thing that stands out to me is her limited contact.

Leading up to my trip and I wasn’t sure K and I would meet, so I hit fdating and dmnotify. I had 5 other women that I was keen on and all wanted to message, call and video chat daily. As I started concentrating more on K in the last month, I neglected the other women a little and cut my correspondence back to every other day. One by one they all disappeared.

Video chatting seems to be the key to weeding out none genuine women or scammers and I think it’s the same for women. They want to see that you are who you say you are. All the genuine women I’ve contacted insist on this within a week of meeting online, if I didn’t  suggest it first.

I wish you good luck 😊
« Last Edit: May 31, 2019, 02:47:49 AM by Davo »

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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2019, 07:00:02 AM »
Update. Sorry guys but there has been a delay in T's arrival into the US due to some unpaid loan for her apartment so helping her deal with that. Hopefully in less than two weeks she will be here. At least she definitely got her visa fine...

I didn't realize that loans could cause customs to bust folks at the gate. Her travel agency confirmed the issue so basically I hope that this will be merely a slight delay in any case. More to come.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2019, 07:07:40 AM »
Matey, STOP..  You have just been a mark..

If T was in arrears, she would know she could be stopped.

An 'issue' at the border would NOT be a surprise for her..

Better you go to 'her'  ( if you can find her)  and save yourself ( further) contributing to a bottomless pit.

Sorry, but this has ALL the signs of a sting((




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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2019, 07:28:09 AM »
yeah...scam...
how much is she trying to take you for?
were you also paying for her flight?

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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2019, 07:50:16 AM »
Her mother helped her with the flight. I double checked and her agency seems legit.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2019, 07:54:11 AM »
Not that long ago honestly. Maybe about six weeks ago. Tomorrow she arrives on a tourist visa via her travel agency, Vit-Tour (http://vit-tour.com/). Feeling somewhat nervous but happy at the same time! :)

So far, we have e-mailed and spoken a few times on the telephone.

I hope you haven't sent her money.

When I was on Match I communicated with a woman from Omsk.  She asked to email directly and not message on Match.  After a few emails she said her vacation was coming up soon and she wanted to visit me.  She said her travel agency can arrange everything, including a tourist visa.  Soon she told me that the flight and visa was more expensive than she thought, and asked if she could "borrow" the money from me.  When I resisted she asked if I could pay for 1/2.  When I said resisted again, saying that I would pay for everything after she arrives here, she disappeared.

The wait time for someone to visit the US Embassy for their visa interview is 200 days.  So, unless your T already had a visa, there is no chance she could get one in 6 weeks.  Check the US Embassy site and also Visajourney forums.  There is a forum dedicated to Russia K1 and spouse visa process, and the most common post is about how ppl have to wait 3+ months for their interview appointment.  And those visas are in a shorter wait time category (immigrant visa).




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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2019, 08:32:57 AM »
Her mother helped her with the flight. I double checked and her agency seems legit.

How much did you "help" her with?

As Lewis Grizzard use to say "I know a lot of folks educated beyond their intelligence"

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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 09:31:44 AM »
Like the other guys have indicated, you’ve met a scammer. There’s no shame in that, I’ve dealt with a handful over the last few years.

The bottom line is, when a fsu woman tells you she’s visiting a country like the US, Uk or Australia on a tourist visa after very little correspondence, the type of correspondence you have had, meeting how you did and having unforeseen money issues surrounding her trip, means there’s a 99% chance she’s a romance scammer..... match, zoosk, pof etc... are full of them.

This is a classic scam and you’ll find many variations online. She (or he) was either going to hit you up earlier for the visa or airfare costs, have a sick or injured family member, a major crisis in her life or have a situation like what’s happened to your girl at the airport. There is a few variations of the airport scam and if I look hard enough on the Black lists, I seem to remember the exact scam being tried on you.

Check this site out and you’ll find 100’s of examples of the visa/airfare, unexpected problem before travelling etc...  scam. You may even find your lady by name and photo, it will be a stolen image and fake name.
http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist_summary_a.htm#Archive1

Here’s a message from another guy in a similar situation, seeking help online.
“My girlfriend is Russian. Last night we tried to fly her to the US on a valid tourist visa. She was stopped at DME and told she would be required to have $2700 USD to get back home immediately even though she had a return ticket. She said this was an "unwritten" rule because of the nonsense i keep seeing on CNN , Anybody else know anything? She is literally trapped and scared to death”

You’ll find 100’s of men in the process of being scammed like this and asking for help online. Be thankful you didn’t face the ultimate humiliation and weren’t left waiting at the airport, out of pocket with flowers in hand, only for her to no show like many other guys have experienced. 

What would be good is to see this through to the end and post the messages on the forum, so other new guys in the same predicament can be referred to your post. One of the last guys who introduced himself was heading down the same road, but wasn’t as advanced as your are in the scam......   http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=23626.0

Spend some time on fdating.com,  you’ll meet genuine fsu women and see their online behaviour is totally the opposite of the woman you are talking too. You’ll pick scammers in the first few messages in the future, because Fsu women don’t write messages / emails like you have been receiving.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 02:43:17 PM »
Update. Sorry guys but there has been a delay in T's arrival into the US due to some unpaid loan for her apartment so helping her deal with that. Hopefully in less than two weeks she will be here. At least she definitely got her visa fine...

I didn't realize that loans could cause customs to bust folks at the gate. Her travel agency confirmed the issue so basically I hope that this will be merely a slight delay in any case. More to come.

You've sent her/he money haven't you? Whatever you do from here on end, DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY!!!!!! IT IS A SCAM!!!!!! GET IT??????
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2019, 04:01:21 PM »


If T was in arrears, she would know she could be stopped.

An 'issue' at the border would NOT be a surprise for her..



An even more simple observation.

Border folks know NOTHING about loans a person may have; let alone anything about arrears.

If anyone believes border folks know such; then next we will be hearing that border folks stop those who have not had a good bowel movement in the last 3 days or didn't send birthday greetings to their Mother this year.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2019, 07:22:33 PM »
Really, ML?

You might like to check that with the 'missus..  I think even a Ukrainian would know this..

This IS Russia, as they say...

One CAN be stopped at the border for unpaid fines, taxes AND even unpaid loans, car credit over a certain amount.....

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/05/31/2-million-people-barred-leaving-russia-over-unpaid-debt-a61643
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2019, 07:54:50 PM »
Sorry guys but there has been a delay in T's arrival into the US due to some unpaid loan for her apartment so helping her deal with that.


You shouldn't waste anymore of your life with this one. Start writing other women and find a woman that doesn't have problems that is solved with money. That is the girl you should be spending your money on.
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2019, 01:45:51 AM »
Update. Sorry guys but there has been a delay in T's arrival into the US due to some unpaid loan for her apartment so helping her deal with that. Hopefully in less than two weeks she will be here. At least she definitely got her visa fine...


Dear Albert,

If you helped her with the problem she claims she would have been free to travel in 23 minutes.

You seem to be reassuring yourself.

We are not in the habit of trying to wreck relationships...


This is not a relationship....

You ARE being scammed.





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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2019, 06:06:13 PM »
SN..... post the first few message you received from her and we can tell you if she’s legit or not.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2019, 06:22:34 PM »
SN..... post the first few message you received from her and we can tell you if she’s legit or not.

Hey Davo, I plan to visit you in Australia.
Right now my money is unavailable, but if you send me $10,000 I will buy my ticket and pay you back when I arrive in Australia.
Hope to see you soon.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2019, 06:50:19 PM »
Hey Davo, I plan to visit you in Australia.
Right now my money is unavailable, but if you send me $10,000 I will buy my ticket and pay you back when I arrive in Australia.
Hope to see you soon.

Why not ... you’re an attractive man. No need to give the money back as I see you being the taker in our relationship and I’ll be the giver.

So should I register us for the 2020 Sydney gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras?..... If you’re  keen, start doing squats now because we are going broke back mountain style and you need to look good in arseless chaps 😜

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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2019, 06:59:28 PM »
OMG . . . what have I signed myself up for ??? !!!
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