Outlook for Children of joint Western/FSU relationships

[krimster2]

I was compelled to read My Struggle over and over in training/indoctrination in Israel as a teenager
I remember only  a very liittle bit of it,

[Trenchcoat]

I was compelled to read My Struggle over and over in training/indoctrination in Israel as a teenager
I remember only  a very liittle bit of it,

What did you make of it? You have had no desire to read it since?

I'm surprised that they made you read the book in Israel Krim, given the history.

[2tallbill]

I'm surprised that they made you read the book in Israel Krim, given the history.

If somebody wanted to kill you, your family and your community, killed 6
million just like you AND they wrote a book. If you didn't read the
book, you would be a total idiot.

[olgac]

Wouldn't she be better of just getting pregnant and having children? After all she is with a guy now and most guys would like to have children.

how is this better to have children before you get an education and some work experience? 50% of marriages end up in divorce here in US. I think 75% in FSU. I would think it's a stupid idea

[olgac]

The problem is after she's got her Masters degree, etc. If she picks up work whatever work it is she is then going to be in 'career mode'. She won't want to go and have children as she will see herself as on the career ladder and children a distraction from that. The Employer will always be dangling another promotion on the career ladder in front of her and what comes with it and she won't want to pull away from that. It can be a real trap for women I think.

Nonsense. in Her 30s the clock will start ticking and she will then want kids. Totally normal thing among working women here. Also by far easiest place to meet men is at work! These women never even have to go to a dating sites.
Also You seem to be pre-occupied with a term "career minded women". Forget career, women just work to make money in their field of study. Being an engineer doesn't mean you are super ambitious and a workaholic, you don't have to be a super achiever who aims higher and higher.

[olgac]

That's a very Western sentiment Krim, those of us going to the FSU do so to avoid that as we know where it leads.

Where does it lead? overwhelming majority of young girls in FSU get a profession and work before getting married.
The birth rate in western countries is much higher than in Russia. Russia is facing a demographic crisis right now.
This is actually exactly because many young girls now don't want to work and all are looking for a wealthy man who
can pay for everything including nannies and housekeepers. There are just not enough of such men for everyone.
Most women nowdays will have to work as supporting a family on a single income has become impossible for an overwhelming majority of young men. Here in US too.

[olgac]

a couple of times in my life I lived in an isolated setting while "bein on the job"
you should see North Korean soldiers the first time they see porn of white girls when they're in Ukraine
they completely lose their minds and this reduces their fighting ability

GOOD

[olgac]

I definitely think the Western Education System breeds too much Self Interest in Women. I think that is what you are dealing with here Krim with your daughter.

In general it has been noted by many that modern Western Women are very Self Interested and that of course is usually a bad thing for us Men.

Oh how gravely mistaken you are to think FSU women have less self interest LOL As I just wrote in another topic, the FSUW who are already legal in US have more demands on a man that AW. These women love to say that if he can't meet all of my needs (some of these needs are crazy like not working AND not doing housework or 5000 bags as gifts) then I wouldrather live alone, why have a man at all

[olgac]

why would female behavior be ANYTHIING other than what it is in reality?
it's "all about" satisfying their desires, that are just as base as yours Trench
both sexes use each other for their own gratification and satisfaction
and they have this honed to a fine art

Yes exactly!

[olgac]

The Rise and Fall of Western Civilization
In Numeris Veritas

% Married + own a home by 30 years old:

1950: 50%
1960: 52%
1970: 48%
1980: 45%
1990: 43%
2000: 35%
2010: 25%
2025: 12%

my estimate
2040: 4%

when ya look at ALL the NUMBERS
The Boomerest Boomers who ever Boomed will short the dollar every way they can
and ski down the falling slope of the falling dollar

Exactly! This is the reality! So raising a girl like a girl, meaning just to be a wife is totally stupid! Most probably 90% chance her husband will not be able to support a family 100%. And even if he does, there are other women fighting for such a man and he is very likely to leave her with the kids (at least 50% chance!) . Having a profession for a young woman in this world is a MUST. Ours just now got an internship doing a full stack development for her computer science degree. We are super happy

[Trenchcoat]

how is this better to have children before you get an education and some work experience? 50% of marriages end up in divorce here in US. I think 75% in FSU. I would think it's a stupid idea

Once you are on the railroad track it's difficult to get off it and following on along the railroad all the way tends to become the mindset.

Once a woman gets Uni education/Uni degree she won't then want to stop to have kids. She will want to apply straight away to Companies for Graduate roles as most of those companies want a Graduate fresh out of Uni, not one from years ago. Once the girl is on the company's Graduate scheme she will then want to finish the scheme and progress to a standard role otherwise she might not find another Graduate Scheme if she left without completing a Graduate scheme. Once she has progressed to the Standard role shd will want to stay there a while to gain experience so she can either switch to the standard role in a similar company or gain promotion. Odds are she stays there long enough to be offered promotion probably right near the time she might be thinking of a having a baby. So the baby idea is once again set back  and she takes the promotion because the offering the Employer makes seems too good for her to pass up.

Then after a bit more time another promotion, same again, etc, etc until it becomes 'I get all of this at work I don't wish to give it up'.

Then the woman just becomes too old to have children or no longer wishes for them if she did much at all in the first place.

The railroad tracks set up to divert women away from having children. Essentially once on them there is always a reason not to have children at that given time so having children rarely happens.

[olgac]

I am sorry but this is just not true I don't know ANY woman without a degree or a profession, I mean not any at all. They are just not in my social class. And I know ZERO women who decided not to have kids! Usually they just don't want to pop them out every year like uneducated women, but they mostly want a couple.

Also I don't see not wanting kids as a problem? Men also don't always want kids, I know many relationships that failed because a man didn't want kids. Some men even had vasectomies and lied about it to FSUW when getting married.
I have a friend like that here my age who loved her American husband and wanted a child and for 10+ years they were trying until he admitted he can't.

So I am 1100% sure for those women who don't want kids there are more than enough men who also don' want kids. Men generally want kids less than women!

[Trenchcoat]

Exactly! This is the reality! So raising a girl like a girl, meaning just to be a wife is totally stupid! Most probably 90% chance her husband will not be able to support a family 100%. And even if he does, there are other women fighting for such a man and he is very likely to leave her with the kids (at least 50% chance!) . Having a profession for a young woman in this world is a MUST. Ours just now got an internship doing a full stack development for her computer science degree. We are super happy

Here's how to reverse those figures.

If most women stop with the Uni Education, Graduate Careers, stop with working full time what happens?

House prices fall.

No longer are two people's salaries are being used to buy a house, instead now only the Man's salary is being used as used to be the case. Women worked part time or not at all but generally it was the main earner whose salary was used. That means that with almost everyone using one salary house prices aren't being over inflated. The man will probably earn a bit more as no longer is there such a supply of labour.

The woman gets to enjoy more home time, relaxation and dies the childcare when needed. Everything works out fine and more people are happier.

[olgac]

I don't think home prices will fall Hong Kong Chinese here drove the prices up. Lets just face it: western civilization is going down from its peak. Soon China will be ahead. In case of US no empire in history lasted forever. Empires rise and fall. This is the reality. Happened long before womens movement

Of course Krim will now come and paint even a bleaker picture LOL