RW's at 40+

[KenC]

She is, isn't she? If I go forward with all this . . . I'd consider myself pretty darn lucky finding someone like that.

I'm gonna take your word for it, lol.  She's pretty, sure, and a hardbody (which at 47 is an amazing accomplishment) but . . . man.  I'm sure she's got a soft side somewhere but it definitely doesn't show up in photographs! 

I like women a bit, uhmm, friendlier looking.  With a bit more "girly" to 'em.

~Boar

And just what do you mean by the highlighted portion?
KwnC

[TexasBoar]

*shrug*

Exactly what I typed.

I continue to have reservations about the endeavour, and I continue to read and learn here while pondering them.

Whatever I eventually do, or decide, I'm learning a lot.

~Boar

[SANDRO43]

I like women a bit, uhmm, friendlier looking.  With a bit more "girly" to 'em.

[viking]

Ok Boar, Sandro has complied with your request. Given a choice, these last two would be a much better fit for most men.

[Louie]

First off Ken, before you correct me make sure I said something that needs correcting, I said his wife TO BE! meaning fiance. and about the other things I said, i don't want to get into an argument with you, I highly respect your opinion, and don't want to loose that respect.

[TexasBoar]

Ok Boar, Sandro has complied with your request. Given a choice, these last two would be a much better fit for most men.

Indeed he has, and indeed they would! 

The first one there, the blond, is particularly lovely.  Well done Sandro! 

~Boar

[KenC]

First off Ken, before you correct me make sure I said something that needs correcting, I said his wife TO BE! meaning fiance. and about the other things I said, i don't want to get into an argument with you, I highly respect your opinion, and don't want to loose that respect.

Louie,
I stand corrected, sorry for my misread.
KenC

[SANDRO43]

The first one there, the blond, is particularly lovely. Well done Sandro! 

Unfortunately, she seems more of a match for Kuna than you :

I m 40 years. I live in Russia, at the city called Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. To tell you the truth, it is almost the end of Russia.. My occupation is journalist. I work at the radio station as a producer of car programs. I realy enjoy cars. I have 15 years driving experience. I also have grown up daughter. She is a student and studying at uni in Australia.
Looking for age group: 35-45 years
Ideal relationship: The man. I d like to meet worthy,well-educated,well-off and careful australian man. Strong spirit, reliable, with kind heart, with good sense of humour, whose sample of family life will be the same as mine. I want to meet the man which I can be proud of, and I dont mean just his success in earning money. The life is given to us not just for a prosperity, but for happiness, happiness - in relationships, relationship - in confidence. Also it has to be the man who will understand and respect hobbies of his "second half".

The photo you liked is prolly from a considerably younger age, and the clinch is that she seems to prefer the company of much larger animals than boars .

[Kuna]

Unfortunately, she seems more of a match for Kuna than you :

I m 40 years. I live in Russia, at the city called Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. To tell you the truth, it is almost the end of Russia.. My occupation is journalist. I work at the radio station as a producer of car programs. I really enjoy cars. I have 15 years driving experience. I also have grown up daughter. She is a student and studying at uni in Australia.
Looking for age group: 35-45 years
Ideal relationship: The man. I d like to meet worthy,well-educated,well-off and careful australian man. Strong spirit, reliable, with kind heart, with good sense of humour, whose sample of family life will be the same as mine. I want to meet the man which I can be proud of, and I dont mean just his success in earning money. The life is given to us not just for a prosperity, but for happiness, happiness - in relationships, relationship - in confidence. Also it has to be the man who will understand and respect hobbies of his "second half".

The photo you liked is prolly from a considerably younger age, and the clinch is that she seems to prefer the company of much larger animals than boars .

Hmmmm... OK, here's a serious question for you all...

I think most of us agree that WOVO is fraught with danger.  This lady is very attractive AND she has a daughter studying Uni in Oz.  Would you still call it WMVM if you had sequential meetings with mother and daughter?   

OK OK, I'm kidding...  she's nice but at 40 yrs of age I don't think she'd be wanting to have more children.

There does seem to be quite a few young Russian girls studying in Australia though???  I dated one around last Christmas and while she was certainly beautiful,  she was still immature. 

Kuna

Oh,  can I say one other thing?  When I was searching through the websites I immediately disqualified anyone that specifically mentioned a country, even Australia. I was concerned a girl would be more motivated about where I was from rather than who I was...  Just a thought!

[KenC]

Kuna,
My antenna would be up if a woman mentioned a particular city, but not a country.  Why wouldn't this woman seek an AU man if her daughter is currently there?  We Americans take it for granted that the woman wants "America" (I know we are a little full of ourselves here), why can't you accept that a woman might prefer AU?

I also wouldn't be so quick to think that a 40ish woman wouldn't consider more babies either.
KenC

[jb]

I think it would be unusual if a Russian mother didn't want to unite her family.  I see nothing untoward here at all, very typical.

[Kuna]

I think it would be unusual if a Russian mother didn't want to unite her family.  I see nothing untoward here at all, very typical.

jb,  hmmmm...  I understand the focal point in your comment is MOTHER. I think it's reasonable if her daughter is in Oz studying.  Keep in mind that it's unlikely the daughter could stay after her study visa expires, even if she married. 

I dated a Korean girl in Sydney for a short while this year and she couldn't get her visa extended without going home and starting the process again.

My earlier post came from a profile I saw on a site. A girl mentioned her sister married an Australian and was in my city.  I understand it would be a "more gentle landing" for her to be in the same city as her sister ...  but I didn't write to her because I didn't like the idea of someone being overly excited about a letter from her "perfect location", rather being excited because the letter came from a man who seemed genuinely compatible.  For me, it just added a risk.

Maybe this is one of the poor decisions I've made through this process...  it was something I did consciously though.

We Americans take it for granted that the woman wants "America" (I know we are a little full of ourselves here), why can't you accept that a woman might prefer AU?

I also wouldn't be so quick to think that a 40ish woman wouldn't consider more babies either.
KenC

Ken,

With all due respect to my American friends, including those in here...  I think if most people knew equal amounts about AU and USA they might prefer Australia.  NOT because America is a bad place, but many of the difficult things society faces there are less pronounced, or not here yet.

I've been to the US several times and have always enjoyed my time there. I've seen the big cities and small-town America. I respect Americans (in general) and consider them to be amongst Australia's greatest friends.  A significant historic building in Brisbane is called MacArthur Central and no Australian should forget America's contribution in defending Australia against Japan's southern assaults in WWII (when the British refused to allow our own men to return from Europe and Africa to defend Australia). 

I've had enough experience to see some very unfortunate things in the states though.  I know they're isolated events but for me it's a nation of contrasts.  It has some of the best, and some of the worst, the western world has to offer.

As I said, I don't want to offend anyone... but I think if someone spent significant time in both countries it's likely they would feel more nurtured in Oz.

OK... I might have just offended the Yanks AND the Poms...  oops!  Sorry to any American that is offended... If you're English... GO CHECK OUT DAY THREE OF THE FOURTH TEST!   

Kuna

Oh, and as for children when a woman is around 40???  My difficulty there is that I don't have children but definitely want them.  I don't want to marry and have them straight away though because I want to develop memories with my new partner as a couple before we start to develop memories as parents.  The risks grow for women too around that age therefore my "theoretical upper age limit" was 32. 

Four years to marry, travel and develop memories as a couple... and then children is my rough timeline...

My four favourite girls are 27, 29, 30 and 31.  I'm 38... and a bl00dy good catch! 

[jb]

Kuna,

Russians are far more family driven than typical westerners.  You comment about a woman looking for a softer landing strip is right on the money.  She has an agenda that may or may not include a loving relatinship with an Oz man.  I wouldn't want to be a mule to the promised land either.  And that's the danger you face in that circumstance.

But,,, with that said, there are romantic women who may wish for the stars in their own dream land.  Maybe that dream land is Austrailia.  I wouldn't count them as scammers just yet.

All in all, if children of your own is your prime motivator, I suggest you consider no woman over 35 at the time she lands in OZ.  You will have to work the immigration numbers backwards to determine her age now.  Hell,,, maybe she's only 14 now,,, I know nothing,,zero,,, about Austrailian immigration policy.

'sup to you man.

[SANDRO43]

One thing that the Oz-seeking 40+ made me think of is that the Russian Far East (Vladyvostok, etc.) may be one of those barely-tapped, "unspoiled" territories that some have been looking for, and much closer to the USA.

Is it easy for you Yanks to get over there, or are there still lingering after-effects from its having been a major Soviet military area ? 

[jb]

Sandro,

I've been to Vladvostok, there is not much there to see.  A few pretty women, yeah, but it's not a place I'd like to revisit year after year.

[jj]

viking- you have good taste.  If you would like to see a more natural picture of the brunette.  Just go to TRIP AND REPORT section, under YOUR FAVORITE FSU CITY  and you will see her on my post.  Sorry jb , she is just as beautiful in person, both inside and out, and I am one lucky guy. I am 59 so to me she is "young".   I think sometimes we forget that there are some very compatible FSU ladies out there , no matter what age.  A woman truly looking for a happy relationship will look beyond the age and riches.  They want to be loved and love in return.  They want a man with enough confidence to pursue a  relationship with commitment, and they will more than commit on their end.  Just my  2 cents - jj

[Kuna]

All in all, if children of your own is your prime motivator, I suggest you consider no woman over 35 at the time she lands in OZ.  You will have to work the immigration numbers backwards to determine her age now.  Hell,,, maybe she's only 14 now,,, I know nothing,,zero,,, about Australian immigration policy.

'sup to you man.

jb,

Prime motivator?  Hmmm.. I'm not looking for a baby machine.  I'm sure I could find one of them here...  but children is a consideration for me.

As for the immigration process "WHO KNOWS!"

I know what they say on the Dept of Immi website but I'm expecting it to be more difficult than it seems.  They quote processing times of 6 - 9 months for either the Fiance or Spouse Visa.  I read somewhere they are averaging 7 months at the moment and 5 months if it's a partner that possesses a "skill in high demand".

What I do know about Government and bureaucracy in Australia is that they like to follow rules, but if you show respect for the rules they'll help more than hinder.  If you try to push in the wrong way you're in for a world of pain.  

There's some slang downunder... "Fair Go Mate".  It's an attitude ingrained in us from birth whether we know it or not.  We ALL want everyone to have a smooth ride if possible.  We're losing it as we become more international and more "modern" but if I find the right people in the bureaucracy I'm sure I'll get a "Fair Go".

Kuna (the persistent optimist)

[SANDRO43]

Oops, JJ, sorry, I hope I did cause any problems by posting that photo, I had no idea she could be already attached to somebody here (and her pic in your T/R IS a bit dark) .

But I congratulate you on your having secured her before anybody else got wise .

[jj]

Sandro43-  It was Vikings orginal photos post , not yours, so either way its ok.  Thanks.  Your pictures were great also! -jj

[viking]

JJ

I went to this site and merely selected two ladies at random that I felt were attractive to make a point. I had no idea that one of them was your lady. Please accept my apology if I embarressed you or her. Also please accept my congratulations! You are one lucky guy.

[Lily]

In 2003, the newspaper "Komsomolskaya Pravda" organized a contest for women who think thay have improved their looks with age.

http://kp.ru/contest/yp/

it s in Russian, but hope you will be able to click on the names. The small black and white photos show them young. A click on the name shows their today look.

[SANDRO43]

Lily, many of them, like 40 y.o. Svetlana, seem  to have considerably improved with age .

[ScottinCrimea]

They had one of those contests for men, too.  Here was my entry - then and now.

[viking]

Hey Scott!

Was it you in another thread where you 'claimed' to be wearing a thong in a very muscular photo? Which is it dude. Tell the truth.

[Lily]

Lily, many of them, like 40 y.o. Svetlana, seem  to have considerably improved with age .

Yes Svetlana is my favorite on there!

What has definitely improved in her is her style (see her hair) and demeanor (see her body alertness), at least as I could tell by her photo.
Her face (and probably body, too) basically remain the same, no wrinkles, no sagging. Looks like she has good genes.