Hi I'm new here and any information or help is welcome!

[Simoni]

2. Our Russian "brothers" carted off to the USSR most of our remaining industrial equipment."

Food for thought .

Don't think I will pass that thought along to Marina    LOL

[Son of Clyde]

I've learned that Russian look, too.  People on the street ask me questions.  Grocery store, too. And Marina is so proud!  Like I've stepped up one rung on the evolutionary ladder 

I have a Brit look. Whenever in the UK people start saying blimey and calling me mate. In the US sometimes people think I am Russian because I am always rushing from place to place.

[Kuna]

There you go again.  Another senseless attack. 

Your problem, Kuna (err...one of them) is that you don't know what you are talking about.  You say things that are not true; yet, I finally see that you don't know truth from fiction.

So let me correct your statement about me.

No, I do not attribute my going to the FSU a dozen times and dating many attractive girls as "bad luck."  Rather, I attribute it to being careful, and choosing wisely.  Gator did the same.  So did Groove.  So did Bruce.  None of us had bad luck.

Sure, I could have married the first FSU girl I kissed, as you plan to.  But I chose not to.  Instead, I dated enough fsu girls to know their culture and personality types.  And before I got engaged, I had spent lots of time with the girl I chose,  both in her country and in other countries.

What is your problem, Kuna?  Why have you started attack strands here at RWD?  Why have you constantly called members here liars?  My advice to you?  Live and let live.  Be positive, and not so negative.

There are many ways to be successful in life.  Your way (one trip and get engaged and be married within 10 months of meeting her) may work for you.   Mark the one week wonder married a girl he hardly knew, and whom did not speak English.  They are happy after 3 years.  I would not recommend that, but it works for them.  Groove was selective, too, and did not marry the first girl he met.  Its paid off for him; his wife is smart, sweet, kind and lovely.

Kuna, accept the diversity of RWD and stop saying bad things about members here who took a  different track than you. It's getting old.

The problem with you Simoni is that you want to bleat, whinge and complain if someone posts an alternative view to you.  You, My Friend, have a glass jaw!

The "luck" thread is back there and we debated the issue of luck versus preparation adn planning in depth.  I don't have time to find it now but I will over the weekend.  If you like you could go back and find it for me.  Your help would be much appreciated.

Your attempts to bait me over comments about marrying the first girl I kissed in FSU is pretty funny.  See, I kissed lots of girls of all nationalities over many years.  I'm not one of those that HAD to marry a FSU girl because I couldn't get any hot a$$ at home. I was lookign for something else... and happily, I've found what I was looking for.

As for why I call people liars... there are certain people here that are proven liars.  That's why I call some people liars.  Some may not like it but it is a fact!

Simoni,  I accept and encourage diversity and debate in RWD but I will speak up when I read somethign that is blatantly wrong.  When I read other things that "may be right" but are "different from what I've experienced" I will also post a different perspective.

No one could say all my posts are negative... but I hope some newbie gets some value out of the DIVERSITY I contribute.  Now who has a problem with diversity?

Simoni, very good post.

I know Kuna has lumped me in with others he considers giving worthless advice. But what advice have I given lately? If people don't care for my advice (when I give it) just ignore me. My only gripe with Kuna was his very long thread about his bad experience with Pavel. Now he is telling others they do not need a guide. I am sure I could have survived without a guide but I trust Pavel and I do not believe I was ever taken advantage of. It is all freedom of choice and I am not insinuating everyone needs a guide but let them choose.

I think Stirlitz charges very high prices, but I would never insinuate that people should not use his services. Stirlitz command of the English language is exceptional. He is a very bright guy who charges a bit too much for me, but he can also offer insight as Pavel can.

I really would like to see things turn around and we all act more civilized.

Oh, SoC...  If you are happy with using a guide that is fine...  Be happy.  I was ripped off and RWD (via mir) prevented a serious scam.  I posted my experiences and you (and others who assert I won't permit diversity in opinions) wanted to shout me down and attack my perceptions.

Your continuation of the guides issue only warns people about the ongoing dangers of trusting them.  It also highlights the fact that YOU won't accept an alternate view to your rosy recommendation of men that have a questionable past.  It's ironic that you assert that I will not accept diversity.

Get real dude.  You need a reality check!

Don't be flattered Kuna, I just wanted to point out to the new people that you really don't have a clue as to how well you picked your partner.  I am not attacking mate, I am calling you out.  Just like the things you do with others when you think their advice is bad.  So I take it you are attacking others as well.  Or is it different because you are doing it?

Why did I call you out? For starters, you just started living together.  The real truth is you still don't know anything.  Mate, I am still learning myself.  My biggest problem is you think your way is the best way.  I think your way is friggin crazy and a hell of a gamble.  I would advise others to make multiple trips.  I would advise others not to be in a hurry.  I would advise others to spend as much "FACE" time as possible before getting engaged.  Even after that it will be extremely difficult.

It takes a lot of deep love for each other to really make this thing work.  Lets see how much love you guys really have for each other.

You think you know this routine better than others because you found your "love" the first time you went to Ukraine.  You also criticize others for making multiple trips.  News flash rocket boy, you have no idea if you chose right.  The only experience you have is going to Ukraine once, getting engaged and talking on the phone after.  I am all for you commenting on how lovely the phone conversations were but you do a great disservice when you tell others anything else.  The game doesn't really begin until you start living with her.  Let me know after some time of face to face relations how well you did.   I thought it would be easy myself but my friend GregFromGa set me straight.  Of course I didn't listen but he was absolutely right in everything he said. 

I really hope things work out for the two of you.  It will be difficult at first.  Especially when the excitement wears off.  Hopefully you picked right.  Only time will tell if your gamble plan worked.  Sometimes life doesn't allow for plans.

I AM flattered.  If your limp and baseless attack on me has encouraged you to post here it's a good thing.     Welcome back to RWD.  You still haven't told us what your old RWD name was though...  How about you open up and stop hiding "stuff"?

You attempt to continue to attack me with foolish and informed comments may not be a good indication of the value you may provide in here. 

As for the rest of your drivel... you still haven't told me what pieces of my advice or which opinions are WRONG?  Can you not find anything or are you not interested in facts? 

By the way... I DO think my way was BEST for me.  I also think others could benefit. I don't criticize others for making multiple trips before they find "love" but I DO SAY THAT PROPER PREPARATION AND PLANNING MAY ERRADICATE MANY ERRORS THAT MANY OF THOSE TAKING MULTIPLE TRIPS MAKE.

Do you think those making ultiple trips BEFORE FINDING THEIR "LOVE" actually planned it that way?  I know of some that were genuinely tourists before actively seeking a partner (I/O) and I think that is a wonderful approach.  I've always asked Sinmoni what he would have done differently (if he could have his time over again) but he's never thought of a single thing he would have done differently.  Instead he says that he was choosey or somehow more selective than others...  I think if he was capable of some introspective thinking and got over his ego he could really help some newbies with some excellent advice.

Finally...  in your closing paragraph you say "I hope you picked right".

This is one of my greatest problems with men that choose to take this journey and it is that they see themselves somehow as superior/from a superior country/dominant when meeting/dating/marrying a FSUW.

The thought of me "choosing the right one" is abhorrent to me.  I always aimed at finding someone witht he values, character and style that suited me and my life.  Once I found her I hoped she would choose me.  I think good women do the choosing not the men.

For the record... I think many men fail miserably because they see this journey as one where they can choose a wife.  If they could see the differences in attitude and understanding I feel many more would be successful on their first trip.

I think attitude is the key to success... NOT LUCK!  So shoot me!

Interesting, I think both Kuna and LivinginUkraine would have excellent insights to share with newbies.  And here they are squabbling.

Gator,  we're not squabbling.  Thomas' first post here was to attack me for being such an idiot but he hasn't yet pointed out a single piece of advice I've given that makes me an idiot.

He probably feels a need to defend those he sees are weaker than him (refer back to his original post) even if those he "defends" deserve to be challenged. 

I jsut ask him to put up or shut up!

Edited:  There are a lot of things you cannot control making planning useless.  I will grab some popcorn and watch to see if Kuna"s plan was good enough.  It is obvious he doesn't believe in bad luck so if anything doesn't work out it will be on his shoulders.  I honestly hope it all works out but have strong reservations based on his personna here.

This is truly one of the most slack-jawed, moronic comments I've read... especially from someone who should know better (based on the fact that Thomas appears to run a web based business from Ukraine).

Planning includes the development of knowledge and understanding... consideration of all of the possibility and development of a strategy (plan) that increases success.  It is not a process map without decision points or contingencies, or a storybook written that has a predetermined outcome. I believe the single reason most men fail is that they don't understand what is ahead of them and they don't have a plan that increases their chances of success.

Bad luck exists (as I've said several times in previous posts BUT I RECKON MANY MEN PLACE THEIR FATE IN THE HANDS OF LUCK OR BLAME BAD LUCK FOR THIER INADEQUATE UNDERSTANDING AND PLANNING>

Of course every newbie can choose not to plan adequately...  but their chances of success will be proportionate with their lack of planning and understanding.

let me add one more thing.  I think it was Simoni who recently posted a conversation that came up between him and someone else from RWD.  They were talking about the fact that it seemed easier now because many newbies are finding success sooner than others.

Do you think that is a result of it getting easier to marry a FSUW (because of the improving economy) or do you think that is a result of the improving resources and advice available in places like RWD?  I will bet my money on RWD having a big impact on the recently improved success rates BECAUSE IT HELPS MEN PLAN BETTER THAN MEN MIGHT HAVE PREVIOUSLY DONE!




Now... in closing you will see that posts where I dispute other's comments I almost always (even I'm weak at times) attack the things they say, not the person.

Example:  Above I said that one of Thomas' comments was "slack-jawed"... I DID NOT SAY THOMAS WAS SLACK-JAWED. ...  just the thing that he said.   

There's a difference!

Judging from some of his other posts it appears Thomas has much to share here, but his need to defend the dumb things others say is potentially damaging to newbies when they come here. (Here again I refer to his original post where he tried to personally attack me). 

Those personal attacks mean nothing to me because I can see how limp and unjustified they are.  If he could come up with any advice I've given that is wrong, I would encourage it... because it would make me reconsider my own thought process.  Instead... he's got nothing except air swings and limp wristed slaps.)

Thomas... I'll watch your posts with special interest because you are in a unique situation (living in Ukraine).  I would love to live there right, now but alas, that is not my plot in life yet.

All the best for your marriage!

Kuna

[Simoni]

The problem with you Simoni is that you want to bleat, whinge and complain if someone posts an alternative view to you. 

Wrong again.  I responded to your false information or attribution to me about having "bad luck."  Opinions are opinions, but your carelessly putting incorrect words into someones mouth will not be left unchallenged anymore.

The "luck" thread is back there and we debated the issue of luck versus preparation adn planning in depth.  I don't have time to find it now but I will over the weekend.  If you like you could go back and find it for me.  Your help would be much appreciated.

Actually I have a good memory.

And of course I never said that my trips to the fsu had been bad luck.   Because they were not.

Here's what you are remembering, incorrectly.

You were feeding newbies the line that if you write good letters and do research in advance, that you can get it right the first time.  I called you on that.  Cuz it's not true.  I'll repeat what I said then.  You can have great letters and rapport, but until you meet the person in the flesh, you will not know.  Chemistry is very important, and chemistry is very rare.  That's when I told you that you had been lucky.  That's what you are remembering.

I should have told you that what you were doing was crazy, but I was kind and just said you were lucky.   Many other posters told you the same thing.

So no, bad luck was not my line.  I called you on it this morning when you attributed it to me.

As for why I call people liars... there are certain people here that are proven liars.  That's why I call some people liars.  Some may not like it but it is a fact!

Actually, quite often when someone makes a point with you that defeats your position, you resort to name-calling and say they are a liar.   That just makes you look silly.

No one could say all my posts are negative... but I hope some newbie gets some value out of the DIVERSITY I contribute.  Now who has a problem with diversity?

You need to reread my post.  I did not say all your posts are negative.  In fact, I'd say 2/3s are positive.  I'd like to see you move more to the positive side instead of attacking others.  It's possible to give advice, hard advice, in a positive way.  Our best posters here do that. 

And guess what? Such advice is listened to.  Rants are not.

[Simoni]

I don't criticize others for making multiple trips before they find "love"

Oh really, Kuna?  You don't?

Then call the local game warden.  Seems like a kangaroo has hopped into your study, and banged away on your keyboard...     LOL

 Simone...You're record in here for "good advice" is looking a bit tattered... I hope we can get back to giving sound advice to newbies rather than trying to prove we really weren't fools when we made all those failed trips!

So it was NOT you that came up with that "failed trip" attack, huh? Wonder what else that kangaroo has written in your name?

[LiveFromUkraine]

Finally...  in your closing paragraph you say "I hope you picked right".

This is one of my greatest problems with men that choose to take this journey and it is that they see themselves somehow as superior/from a superior country/dominant when meeting/dating/marrying a FSUW.

The thought of me "choosing the right one" is abhorrent to me.  I always aimed at finding someone witht he values, character and style that suited me and my life.  Once I found her I hoped she would choose me.  I think good women do the choosing not the men.

For the record... I think many men fail miserably because they see this journey as one where they can choose a wife.  If they could see the differences in attitude and understanding I feel many more would be successful on their first trip.

I think attitude is the key to success... NOT LUCK!  So shoot me!


Gator,  we're not squabbling.  Thomas' first post here was to attack me for being such an idiot but he hasn't yet pointed out a single piece of advice I've given that makes me an idiot.

He probably feels a need to defend those he sees are weaker than him (refer back to his original post) even if those he "defends" deserve to be challenged. 

I jsut ask him to put up or shut up!




Now... in closing you will see that posts where I dispute other's comments I almost always (even I'm weak at times) attack the things they say, not the person.

Example:  Above I said that one of Thomas' comments was "slack-jawed"... I DID NOT SAY THOMAS WAS SLACK-JAWED. ...  just the thing that he said.   

There's a difference!

Judging from some of his other posts it appears Thomas has much to share here, but his need to defend the dumb things others say is potentially damaging to newbies when they come here. (Here again I refer to his original post where he tried to personally attack me). 

Those personal attacks mean nothing to me because I can see how limp and unjustified they are.  If he could come up with any advice I've given that is wrong, I would encourage it... because it would make me reconsider my own thought process.  Instead... he's got nothing except air swings and limp wristed slaps.)

Thomas... I'll watch your posts with special interest because you are in a unique situation (living in Ukraine).  I would love to live there right, now but alas, that is not my plot in life yet.

All the best for your marriage!

Kuna

Kuna, if I felt a need to defend moronic posts than your last one would be the top of my list. 


I honestly didnt read most of the hot air you call a post.  I did skim through it and laughed most of the way.  Sorry buddy you are way off base with a lot of stuff you are saying.  I almost fell of the chair laughing when you told Simon to toughen up then whine about me attacking you.


You can plan all you want, even in business.  The thing is and you may want to bring your deaf ear over further, your plans don't always work and you need to adjust.  That is why planning only takes you so far.  If you can't adapt and adapt fast you lose.  A plan is only good for looking back, seeing what worked and adjusting.  I can assure you, my business plan has changed quite a bit.  You know why?  Well because sometimes we don't have all the information we need.  That is why we end up adjusting.  You are starting to get that information right now with her living with you.


If attitude is the key to success than you wil have a bad outcome.  Your attitude to others way of doing things just plain suck.  I don't see you being able to adjust much if you're plan doesn't work. 


Choosing a right partner is not about superiority which you seem to feel a lot here on this board.  I could have been married several times prior to now.  I knew it would end in divorce.  You see, like you, I have kissed a lot of women internationally.  Including a fair share of your oz women.  You just know when you meet your partner in life.  I waited until I was sure I had the woman I was suppose to be with.  How is that a superiority complex?


I expect it will be more and more difficult for men to get married here because the economy is improving.  My opinion is the opposite to what Simon said.  But that is only my opinion.


Mate, you crack me up.  You think the first post was an attack.  It wasn't.  You then complain about others not being able to take your posts.  GROW UP man.  If you want to be a OMB then you need to be able to take it as well as give it.  They get a lot of crap for the way they post.  You don't seem to be able to take it.

Of course, your posts are not attacks but of quality advice.  Anyone who posts different opinions to you are attacking you.  HAHA.

I will also be watching as your new life evolves.  Lets see how your plan err I mean family works out.  Sorry but I am laughing at the thought of you two having a romantic dinner and discussing how she was all part of the plan.  Very romantic mate.


Thanks for the best wishes on my marriage.  I hope to be able to send you the same wishes mate.


Edited:  I already posted my old ID in this thread.  Long time before you even asked. 

I would also encourage you to read Ken's comments.  He pretty much nailed the problem I have with you.  Now don't look at the nice things he said but the constructive criticism.


Thomas

[Simoni]

I kissed lots of girls of all nationalities over many years.  I'm not one of those that HAD to marry a FSU girl because I couldn't get any hot a$$ at home.

Ah, I missed this one.  Mate, you're experience level is at ground zero as you start to live with an fsu girl.  They are unlike any girl on earth.

And as for as your sick comment about guys (I assume you are talking about us here at RWD) not being able to get girls at home, I have a different view.  I'm VERY impressed with the guys who have successfully made it with an FSU girl here.   I think they are the top of the pool, and DID NOT get an FSU girl because they could not get a girl at home. 

[William3rd]

eleven pages long and still going strong!!!!!
The faces have changed,
and ol' Chris has been gone for a week, :noidea:
and we are way off topic.
Sure wish I had some popcorn. . . . .

[Simoni]

I expect it will be more and more difficult for men to get married here because the economy is improving.  My opinion is the opposite to what Simon said.  But that is only my opinion.

Actually, I did not say anything like that.  That was another Kuna misquote.

My agreement is with you.  If one reads my trip report from this summer, Back to Ukraine, they will see that I describe a thriving place with girls who love it there and don't want to leave.

My guess is that guys who get married fast today are just like the ones from 5 years ago.  They get engaged before they truly know the girl.  And that's dangerous, and thus foolish.

[catzenmouse]

You can share mine William.

[Simoni]

eleven pages long and still going strong!!!!!
The faces have changed,
and ol' Chris has been gone for a week, :noidea:
and we are way off topic.
Sure wish I had some popcorn. . . . .

LOL....I was thinking the same thing, William.  Poor Chris had 3 posts in his own thread.  Now his thread has 1700 views and 11 pages!  That has to be a record for a guy who only posted a grand total of 5 times across all of RWD! 

[William3rd]

In his five posts over 2 days, Chris generated combat in at least three threads, had over 300 comments. Definitely a Hall of Fame performance. We had Adrian about a month ago and he didnt generate near the fervor. Must be the end of summer or something. . . . .

[LiveFromUkraine]

eleven pages long and still going strong!!!!!
The faces have changed,
and ol' Chris has been gone for a week, :noidea:
and we are way off topic.
Sure wish I had some popcorn. . . . .

Since Chris left, I doubt he will mind if we are off topic now. 

I have pretty much said everything I wanted to say.  At least for me, the show is now over.   


Thomas

[Son of Clyde]

Oh, SoC...  If you are happy with using a guide that is fine...  Be happy.  I was ripped off and RWD (via mir) prevented a serious scam.  I posted my experiences and you (and others who assert I won't permit diversity in opinions) wanted to shout me down and attack my perceptions.

Your continuation of the guides issue only warns people about the ongoing dangers of trusting them.  It also highlights the fact that YOU won't accept an alternate view to your rosy recommendation of men that have a questionable past.  It's ironic that you assert that I will not accept diversity.

Get real dude.  You need a reality check!

The reality Kuna is that you could have posted as much in a few sentences and instead you posted what I would consider damaging accusations. I did not come into the thread until several others had sent PM's telling me about it. I was trying to defend someone I like who happens to be a guide you were not happy with. This is my only problem with you and the fact you jump on anyone who criticizes anything you write. Sorry it is probably better just to ignore you completely. Best of luck to you.

[Simoni]

let me add one more thing.  I think it was Simoni who recently posted a conversation that came up between him and someone else from RWD.  They were talking about the fact that it seemed easier now because many newbies are finding success sooner than others.

You thought wrong.  Actually, it was Groove.

Like Simoni, I made many trips to Russia and Ukraine, met many girls, had several girls tell me they loved me, even fell for several girls... But always something wasn't right and I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger. Near the end of my search, I sometimes thought I'd fallen victim to the "kid in a candy store" syndrome, and that I'd never be satisfied.

Currently, there seems to be a lot of guys in the visa process who met their wives on their first trip. They may consider their quest a "success" (and I hope this doesn't offend anyone) but I'm withholding judgment until she arrives in her new home and has spent some time there. I sincerely hope things work out, but in my checkered experiences with FSU women I have to reluctantly conclude that there may be surprises in store for some of you once she arrives...

And he was NOT being positive about such "quick" success...

[Admin]

Out of curiousity
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.
.
What're the chances of you guys 'burying the hatchet' ?

Should I make it a poll: none - slim - maybe - OK.

No qualifying comments allowed.

- Dan

[Son of Clyde]

Dan I am all for burying the hatchet as long as the person in question burys his.

[Admin]

Dan I am all for burying the hatchet as long as the person in question burys his.

Guess you missed the part about "no qualifying comments allowed" - eh?

- Dan

[Jumper]

Dan , rings the bell.. round 9 has ended,.
match undecided,,judges call it a tie.


This place has been almost a brawl in every other thread lately..
 

Dan,
just curious,, you know the humanitarian i am..

at login can the software be made to distribute some valium, prep-H , metamucil, or geritol as needed?

just sayin'

[William3rd]

This is a 12 round heavyweight bout.  3 rounds to go. We can make it an annual charity event