Ask me, I've done it! and have been married for 3 years happily!

[BC]

I have contributed on a few issues. I would be doing a lot more contributing if a couple of people here wouldn't continously question my honesty and integrity. I'm beginning to think that they might have an agenda or a business interest that would benefit from putting me and my service down. Might that be the case?

Now you are really getting paranoid.

I have seen absolutely no attacks regarding your honesty and integrity.  There are those who are questioning your methods and use of this forum as an advertising medium. Many service providers that have posted here have experienced this.

When I first read the title of this thread I thought ok here is a guy that wants to talk about the success of their marriage.. nothing wrong with that... is that what we got? I think not.

You were married 15 years to a AW, now 3 years with a woman from FSU.  Ok I was also married before and am now married over 5 years to a woman from RU - does that make me an expert? - I don't think so.  I was born in the US and lived a good part of my life overseas.. I am fluent in English (American English).. was even married to an AW, does that qualify me as an expert on AW?  Absolutely not.

BTW, why in the world would a guy from FSU marry an AW anyway?  That really makes no sense.

Upthread you invited one of your customers to participate, in essence a 'one week wonder' ready for vacation in Egypt to sign K1 paperwork.  I see no 'magic' in that.

One thing that wonders me about service providers is why they seek to provide professional services with only an amateur background, very few have even been married to a FSU woman for an extended period (talking 10+ years ), some even already divorced after a relatively short period.

This seems to show that regardless of 'method' used, chances are quite odd at best - even for the 'pros'.  I find the 'collective wisdom' offered here more valuable than any paid service I have seen offered thus far.

All in all, I think you would be much more qualified providing services to FSU men that want to marry AW!

[I/O]

the numbers are not very incurraging!

Neither is the spelling.

I/O

[Eduard]

Neither is the spelling.

I/O

cheap shot...it's so you...I'd like to see you spell one sentense in Russian, then critisize my spelling

[I/O]

cheap shot...it's so you...I'd like to see you spell one sentense in Russian, then critisize my spelling

I am not interested in writing in Russian, if you want to write in Russian, do us all a favour and piss off to some Russian forum and peddle your wares there. This one is an English forum.

Point is Eduard, your attention to detail is very poor and lazy. Particularly when there is a spell checker here free of charge. You've spent umpteen pages trying to tell us how good you are and the only supporting evidence you have brought is some goose who can't spell either. With every post you are looking more and more the "Fly-by-night" used car salesman.

I/O

[Shadow]

Eduard to answer your question, I have been living with my fiancee for more than 2 years now. She is from Moscow, where I went to meet her, and went back a couple of times afterwards. Before I met her I met a woman in Ukraine, who I was friends with and we helped each other finding better candidates. If the women I corresponded with seriously, 4 wrote in English, 1 in Italian and with 1 we wrote in our native language and translated by online translator. Due to my experience in languages, and understanding for differences in construction of sentences, I never ran in to misunderstandings in communication that were impossible to take.
What worries me about your service is not the method for bringing people in to contact and not even accompanying them on their first trip. There are many men who will appreciate and benefit from such a service. However you seem to inject yourself in to the people's relationship, life and mind in a way that they become completely dependent on you, at least in their thoughts. This makes you the barrier, not the language.
Also for a man who has such vast experience and knowledge on local sites and language it seems strange that you could not find a hotel or apartment in Kazan and had to rely on your clients contact to find it. I would think that Yandex and a phone would have been more than enough for someone fluent in Russian.
Understand that I have not said that I think your services are necessarily bad. On the contrary I think that there are some people who will benefit from them. However my interest has been to find out exactly how it works and what the cost are. I think that has been reached.
It is true that I have not needed such a service, and have a natural knee-jerk reaction towards anyone who is treating his clients as friends due to my experience that such friendship often lasts no longer as the money is flowing. However not needing a service myself does not mean that the service has no value, on the contrary.

[LiveFromUkraine]

I have contributed on a few issues. I would be doing a lot more contributing if a couple of people here wouldn't continously question my honesty and integrity. I'm beginning to think that they might have an agenda or a business interest that would benefit from putting me and my service down. Might that be the case?

   I don't think babysitting grown men is really something I would enjoy so no worries on competition from me.  I can make more money doing other things than that Ed.

I also have this perspective on how many of these marriages where men "did it on their own with no one babysitting them" last beyond the "getting a permanent green card" stage...and the numbers are not very incurraging!

None of these types of relationships are encouraging from looking at "the numbers". 

How many men have you helped get married?  How long have they been married?  Unless you are doing a large volume of business then you can't tell me your method is the better when it comes to "the numbers".


I don't get all excited when I hear you had two customers that were married 2 years and consider it a success.  In fact, I don't consider 3 years a success either.  I have known people after 10 years get a divorce.  Would you consider that a success? 


Thomas

[Gator]

Eduard,

There are some people here, such as myself, who are trying to help you.  However, you continue to ignore us, which I find frustrating.

Yes, you show some Russian mentality , suggesting that you would be helpful in "reading" RW.  For example, you are skeptical and dogmatic.  You also seem to want to control everything.  Perhaps some men need controlling and hand holding.  I assert that such men are probably not suited for this endeavor.

Personally, I would have trouble with a guide/consultant who is dogmatic and controlling.  I would prefer a consultant who would assume that I was a client and would even listen to me in a balanced manner.

[Eduard]

What worries me about your service is not the method for bringing people in to contact and not even accompanying them on their first trip. There are many men who will appreciate and benefit from such a service. However you seem to inject yourself in to the people's relationship, life and mind in a way that they become completely dependent on you, at least in their thoughts. This makes you the barrier, not the language.

Hi Shadow,
I assure you that I do not "inject myself" in any couple's relationship. I search for the women who fit my client's criteria, then enterpret their letters to each other. I make a particular effort to accurately capture the assence of what they are saying to each other taking in consideration language and cultural differences. There are times when my clients do need an advice. For example. I'm going to Russia with a client in a few days. He's been communicating with a girl from Yaroslavl, which is about 4 hours drive or train ride away from Moscow for about 3 months. Now suddenly when we are definitly coming and have our apartment reserved in Moscow she was writing things like "I do want to meet with you, but I'm not sure if I can make it, I can try but can't promise" etc. etc. My client obviously was upset and confused.
Why do you think suddenly she started getting cold feet and sounding so unsure??? I advised him to ask her if she has any friends or relatives to stay with when in Moscow. She responded that she didn't and she hasn't been to Moscow since she was 12yo.
Then it became clear to me that she being a school teacher (of english language by the way)
just couldn't afford to travel to Moscow and stay there at a hotel for a few days.
I told my client that in my opinion he should probably offer to pay for her hotel. As soon as he did, she responded "yes definitly I will be there so we can get to know each other better. I know now that you are serious about me" Good girls typically will never ask a man to pay for them. They don't want to feel like they are obligated to do something with a man that they wouldn't do otherwise just because he paid for her hotel so they don't ask. But if you offer...that's a different story.
Would you consider this "injecting myself into their relationship"?
When a client exercises his option to take me on a trip to Russia with him I am only with the couple when he wants me to be with them which is usually the first coupe of days in it's entirety with each girl, and the rest of the time as needed. I make their comminication easy and with my help conversation flows with no strain and missunderstandings. After a couple of days of them getting to know each other usually my client will let me know the hours he's going to need me for the next day. Unlike your suggestion both my client and his date always appreciate me being there to make things so much easier for them. Even little things like making a date and agreeing where they are going to meet can be difficult because of the language barrier.
Even when a women speaks some english, they always have a hard time understanding each other talking on the phone and figuring out where to meet. So I usually would help them make those arrangements and get my client to the right place. Is that "injecting myself"?

[Eduard]

Also for a man who has such vast experience and knowledge on local sites and language it seems strange that you could not find a hotel or apartment in Kazan and had to rely on your clients contact to find it. I would think that Yandex and a phone would have been more than enough for someone fluent in Russian.
 mean that the service has no value, on the contrary.

Shadow,
why do you assume that I couldn't find a hotel or an apartment?? It's all there abd very easy to find. The thing is, that "a man of my experience" knows that when going to a town in Russia where I haven't been before I would rather not trust an ad in the paper like "iz ruk v ruki" or ads on yandex or rambler. You can easily get in trouble there by dealing with people you don't know.
So precisely because of my experience I prefer to deal with people who come recomended. I don't see anything wrong with going with the apartmet recomended by my client's woman that he (and I) have gotten to know very well in the course of a few months. I actually feel much safer going about it this way.
Does this make sense?

[I/O]

I make a particular effort to accurately capture the assence of what they are saying

Hope you make a lot more effort to capture the "Assence" of what is being said than you do with your spelling. Again, there is a simple button at the bottom of the editing page that is named "Spell Check". Try it sometime.

Gator: Don't waste your talents. The guy is a blowhard with no record to back it up. He is here trying to build a business which is based on tissue paper.

I/O

[Eduard]

Eduard,

There are some people here, such as myself, who are trying to help you.  However, you continue to ignore us, which I find frustrating.

Yes, you show some Russian mentality , suggesting that you would be helpful in "reading" RW.  For example, you are skeptical and dogmatic.  You also seem to want to control everything.  Perhaps some men need controlling and hand holding.  I assert that such men are probably not suited for this endeavor.

Personally, I would have trouble with a guide/consultant who is dogmatic and controlling.  I would prefer a consultant who would assume that I was a client and would even listen to me in a balanced manner.

hey gator, didn't mean to ignore you. Did you have a specific question for me?

[Zmejka]

Here's another remark from a Russian woman who's may be a bit upfront and blunt but as you know RW are like that when they see a lot of BS (thanks god others have noticed it as well).

I just can't imagine how we could live before OP started this thread about his services. I found out that majority of russian women can communicate only on Tarzan-Jenny level even if they happened to get a good education (not talking about working with english-speaking - i think the argumentation would be the same ). Should i try and say that in big cities people just must have good English skills to have a decent job? Or better i keep my moutn shut not to spoil the sweet picture that TS has painted? Of course there are towns and villages... I just don't know where the author takes his girls. If he searches excusively on russian datins sites i don't have doubts women there can have 0 or not sufficient English level. But there are thousands of women who're in independent search on different international dating sites - and practically all of them have level of English that's ok. Not ok to rush into American life i think - but ok to communicate and discuss everything with foreigners. And wanted to mention - i don't think that every foreigner when talking to a russian woman uses so many slang, proverbs and idioms that they can't go on without a translator. Or may be i'm just at a loss because i'm still talking to my foreign friend in Jenny style and didn't know it untill TS opened my eyes?  
I really wonder how the earth still spinned around before TS started his business? To promote his servises he says of course everything to his profit. And by the way - i think a Russian woman who is fluent in English could understand the motives and body languages of another Russian woman better than any man. So? Can be a kind of idea for a TS's wife

What about your clients leading now their married life? If they got married does that mean that they already don't need to understand and interpete body language and hidden agenda's of RW? Who will inlight them again?

I totally agree with pitbull. In my opinion this service is for people who are too lazy and want that somebody not even put food in their mouth but even chew for them. Some find it ok - so let them make their choice. I think that most people formed their opinion about this service and necessariness of TS anyway.
All this reminded me of annoying and long commercials on tv - "buy our super-puper thing, you'll have to do nothing, this super-puper thing will do everything for you, there is nothing better that our super-puper thing, your life was miserable? It's just because you didn't have our super-puper thing..." etc. You're not directly promoting your business, but all that repeating talks "only professors and translators are fluent in English", "only a person fluent in both languages can help and advice you about russian women", "being able to read Russian women like only someone who was born and raised in Russia" make me sick. I studied public relations so i can say you mastered some methods of PR, i apploud you

Of course you're the one who was raised in Russia and then moved to the US, the one who knows the body language and hidden agenda of Russian women, the one fluent both in Russian and in English, the one who succeeded with RW for 3 years... are you one of those apostles who brings us light and shows us the right way? Thanks for not leaving us crawling in the dark where we have been before you came.
P.S. Sorry for my fouts, after 1,5 year in the non-English speaking country my skills are getting worse - but still magically i'm able to communicate without a translator - or I'm not?

Now i can go to sleep with peace. I sincerely wish you success in your business, and of course i'm jealous that i can't make 1,500 in one week

[I/O]

  I was going to add...........nahhh I don't need to. Too funny and too true.

I/O

[Daveman]

I was going to add...........nahhh I don't need to. Too funny and too true.

I/O

I think I finally understand drongo and bogan.     maybe even super-puper drongo could apply... not sure of applicable variations.  Learning a new language is difficult at my age.. 


Zmejka - that was hilarious. 

[BC]

Hi Shadow,
I assure you that I do not "inject myself" in any couple's relationship. I search for the women who fit my client's criteria, then enterpret their letters to each other. I make a particular effort to accurately capture the assence of what they are saying to each other taking in consideration language and cultural differences. There are times when my clients do need an advice. For example. I'm going to Russia with a client in a few days. He's been communicating with a girl from Yaroslavl, which is about 4 hours drive or train ride away from Moscow for about 3 months. Now suddenly when we are definitly coming and have our apartment reserved in Moscow she was writing things like "I do want to meet with you, but I'm not sure if I can make it, I can try but can't promise" etc. etc. My client obviously was upset and confused.
Why do you think suddenly she started getting cold feet and sounding so unsure??? I advised him to ask her if she has any friends or relatives to stay with when in Moscow. She responded that she didn't and she hasn't been to Moscow since she was 12yo.
Then it became clear to me that she being a school teacher (of english language by the way)
just couldn't afford to travel to Moscow and stay there at a hotel for a few days.
I told my client that in my opinion he should probably offer to pay for her hotel. As soon as he did, she responded "yes definitly I will be there so we can get to know each other better. I know now that you are serious about me" Good girls typically will never ask a man to pay for them. They don't want to feel like they are obligated to do something with a man that they wouldn't do otherwise just because he paid for her hotel so they don't ask. But if you offer...that's a different story.
Would you consider this "injecting myself into their relationship"?
When a client exercises his option to take me on a trip to Russia with him I am only with the couple when he wants me to be with them which is usually the first coupe of days in it's entirety with each girl, and the rest of the time as needed. I make their comminication easy and with my help conversation flows with no strain and missunderstandings. After a couple of days of them getting to know each other usually my client will let me know the hours he's going to need me for the next day. Unlike your suggestion both my client and his date always appreciate me being there to make things so much easier for them. Even little things like making a date and agreeing where they are going to meet can be difficult because of the language barrier.
Even when a women speaks some english, they always have a hard time understanding each other talking on the phone and figuring out where to meet. So I usually would help them make those arrangements and get my client to the right place. Is that "injecting myself"?

As you describe above, I would indeed consider your actions as 'injecting yourself'.

First, your client should never have been confused at all.  He obviously wants to meet this woman he is corresponding with so why not meet her on her own 'turf'?  Second, if he decided for whatever reason to only go to Moscow, he surely would understand the possible need to support her travel/lodging.  3rd, if your client is communicating with an English speaking woman, why in the world did he not try to work this out with the woman directly?  The very last thing he should be is 'upset and confused'.  After communicating for three months he should probably know the basics of her work and looking at a map the distance involved for his visit.

This is all 'be a man' stuff.  My wife never asked for a penny, but it was up to me to offer assistance when we met elsewhere.  On a business trip to Ukraine, (she lived in RU) I offered multiple times to assist with travel fare to UA and made sure there was someone there to pick her up at the station (near midnight), escort her to the hotel and make sure she got checked in (I was arriving later that day). This was the only time I used external assistance.

In essence, you acted as the third leg creating a relationship tripod and in doing so ever so slightly changed 'reality' and provided false stability.  This may sound like a very minor point, but over time such can add up resulting in a relationship 'makeover' that will not last the test of time.

While in Ukraine, I met an Italian guy at our hotel.  He was working there for a couple of weeks for an Italian company.  Surrounded by beautiful women he was quite unhappy.  Why?  He wasn't being a 'Man'..  In the middle of a forest he could not find a tree. No agent, guide or whatever could have given him 'Man' skills necessary for surviving the long run.

When I took a peek at the videos on your site, I saw a 'man' quite similar to the one I met in UA, I can understand why your services were needed.  Your business model is probably a good one and I'm quite sure you can be financially successful but don't confuse or contort your services as true 'help' in forming solid relationships.

Some very wise folks here have stated before that this venture is not for everyone.  I am a firm believer in that.

[Eduard]

it's a waste of time to argue with a self-admitted jelous snake...
her english is trully amazing and can only be topped off with the amount of poison she spits out...
Some of you who have been looking for a while why not have her introduce you to one of her fluent english speaking friends? Get married and live happily ever after!
And if she is as cute, it's only a bonus, isn't it?

Out of curiousity: Guys, how many women have you encountered in your search that speak fluent english? what would you say the ratio of fluent speaking ones to limited english speakers is ? How many of you actually married the one fluent in english?
Snake will have you believe that they are a dime a dozen, but I had a very different experience and would really like to hear about your experience.

[Eduard]

As you describe above, I would indeed consider your actions as 'injecting yourself'.

First, your client should never have been confused at all.  He obviously wants to meet this woman he is corresponding with so why not meet her on her own 'turf'? 

This is his first trip to Russia and he wanted to meet a few girls. Our scheduling didn't allow us for a trip to Yaroslavl.

 Second, if he decided for whatever reason to only go to Moscow, he surely would understand the possible need to support her travel/lodging.

Well, he didn't, and many American men don't...maybe this is a good business opportunity for somebody to start a school of "How to be a man"?

  3rd, if your client is communicating with an English speaking woman, why in the world did he not try to work this out with the woman directly? 

great question! In addition to her being an English teacher he was a Russian major at college!
They do have each other's email addresses and spoke on the phone several times without my help...The only explanation i can give is that "The more you know, the more you realize how little you know"  They had a couple of misunderstandings and decided that it would be better to send an original letter with my translation attached, just to make sure. That was his decision, not mine.

Some very wise folks here have stated before that this venture is not for everyone.  I am a firm believer in that.

I agree with that, yet there are men who could benefit and have benefited from using my services. As I said before, there are many ways to skin a cat. My way worked for me and your way worked for you, so in the end we both a happily married. let's celebrate that!

[BC]

it's a waste of time to argue with a self-admitted jelous snake...
Some of you who have been looking for a while why not have her introduce you to one of her fluent english speaking friends? Get married and live happily ever after!
And if she is as cute, it's only a bonus, isn't it?

Huh?! this one of those 'true color' statements?

Out of curiousity: Guys, how many women have you encountered in your search that speak fluent english?

One.  The others spoke German and Italian quite well.  Heck my MIL is even pretty good at picking up words here and there.

what would you say the ratio of fluent speaking ones to limited english speakers is ? How many of you actually married the one fluent in english?

The ratio? I don't know, but knowing a couple of languages myself helps. I married the one that I could communicate with.  She happened to speak English quite well.

Snake will have you believe that they are a dime a dozen, but I had a very different experience and would really like to hear about your experience.

Maybe not a majority, but in my experience a substantial minority.  There are quite a few, many of them women that work directly for international companies and as independent contractors with overseas companies, software developers where English is quite 'required'.  Lots of teachers too I bet.  Only one caveat, you probably won't find them all on agency or dating sites.

The greatest error I believe most men make is to limit themselves by thinking agency or dating site is the only way to go.  Yes I agree that such paths are expedient but doubt they are truly effective in the long run for most seekers.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

[tjalinho]

it's a waste of time to argue with a self-admitted jelous snake...
her english is trully amazing and can only be topped off with the amount of poison she spits out...

I'm the one living with Zmejka and I have to say this song pretty much represents our relationship then:

 

[LiveFromUkraine]

it's a waste of time to argue with a self-admitted jelous snake...
her english is trully amazing and can only be topped off with the amount of poison she spits out...

I see you are the ladies man like you said in this thread over and over again.  I can only imagine what you say to the women your customers meet.  Fortunately for them, they will never know what you are saying.


I agree it is a waste of time to be arguing with snakes.  I happen to agree with Zmejka, which should tell you whom the real snake is.

Ed, I would think it is time for you to peddle your services somewhere else.  You have done far too much damage to your credibility here.  Since you are unable to post any useful information in any other thread let me be the first to say "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out."

I know, I know, you are unable to post in any other thread because of the constant attacks.  Funny how others are able to post in multiple threads during the day.  Maybe your multi tasking skills need a little work which makes me wonder how you are able to make the travel plans for your clients. 


I always thought that babysitting was a hard way to make money. 



Thomas

[Lily]

There are quite a few, many of them women that work directly for international companies and as independent contractors with overseas companies, software developers where English is quite 'required'.  Lots of teachers too I bet.  Only one caveat, you probably won't find them all on agency or dating sites.

 

Personally i know two RW who work for major international companies in Moscow and look online for a good man abroad. On one RW I just occasionally know that she does..she never told me about it. She is a spectacular beauty, I can tell you...  Similarly, I never told anyone that I have my online profile. This is the thing that women prefer not to share.

[Shadow]

Eduard I answered the question about how many women I met that spoke foreign languages before you asked it. Read back.
On my birthday I got a call from my mother-in-law (to be) who wished me well in English, even though she does speak it only when meeting me. This is called interest in communication.
Why do you let this couple meet in Moscow, when she is living in Yaroslavl ? Too much trouble for a Russian-born, Russian-speaking man to go the extra 3 hours and meet in her home town ? Also you deal daily with people that you did not meet in person by providing them services. If you are so afraid to go to a foreign place that you need recommending, I am beginning to doubt your abilities in reading Russians. The female client might just as much be part of a mob scam as the guy running a hotel somewhere and having a website ad to increase visitors.
Zmejka is one of the more gentle and friendly RW, if you manage to get this reaction out of her, it must be your wonderful, cheerful cheerful personality and natural charm that is working.

Regarding the injecting in to relationship, the others have already answered enough.

[Alyona]

This is such interesting thread.

Although my English was not very good when we met we did not typically use interpreter.  Most communication is non-verbal so it was more important for us to stumble through this.

Eduard, my husband and I watched your videos and they were alot of fun.  I asked him if he would have done it this way and he said no.

I then asked  him why anyone would do it this way.   His answer, "Everybody needs a good wingman sometime when they meet someone new."

Nobody has mentioned it this way.  If they are in need of a wingman and can afford it then maybe is a good idea.

I also agree with people who say that eventually the man has to fly on his own and get to know his lady BY HIMSELF.  If he cannot do this then I would not be sure if he is a good man to be in a relationship with.

On the videos some of the women looked surprised to see you.  Did they know you would be coming with the man they were meeting?

Alyona

[Gator]

Alyona,

Good post.

Yes, Ed's service is like that of a wingman.  Good analogy.

I believe, however, that if someone needs a wingman, he will not succeed with RW.  Your husband did not need one, and you seem happily married.

Taz is writing in another thread about the mistakes that his friend JD has made over 6 years of attempting this.  Yet, Taz held JD's hand thoughout those years and flew several missions as his wingman.  In fact, I think Taz was a superb wingman, even guiding the target into JD's gunsights.

[Gator]

Why does reading this thread remind me of Dickens' Great Expectations?

Eduard, you are progressively deteriorating in front of my eyes.  There was no cause to attack Zmejka.  Her points are valid and she sincerely wished you success.  And she was hilarious.

You are imprinted as a Russian and it seems I accordingly must be more direct if not blunt.  Your approach reminds me, as it did Zmejka, of those cheap TV ads.  In fact, I think you watched too many Ginzo knife ads when you first arrived in the USA.  I keep waiting for you to say, "Wait, there's more, if you order today..."

It is the end of the year and time for RWD to announce its annual awards.  Although you did not start until December, I believe you will win hands down "Blowhard of the Year". 

Did you not read where I and others expressly stated that you have a valuable service as a "bird dog", pointing out interested RW not with agencies?  We suggested you leave it at that.  No, not you.  Interesting how Daveman repeated several times one short quote because it was so beneficial to you.   Sadly, it went over your head. 

BTW, I met many RW who spoke English, particularly those from the Big Three Cities.  And before you say, "Who would want one of those arrogant women from Moscow,"  I am engaged to one and have known her almost 6 years.  She is delightful.   I agree that if you head into the backwater towns, English speaking women are much fewer in number.