I'm still not convinced! The official stats just don't make sense!

[I/O]

The POINT is that I do care about my clients, they get my complete attention and a 100% dedication to their success.

But what constitutes success? Getting hitched? Any fool can do that with or without the help of an agent. 5-10 years happily married might, IMO, start to come close to success. I notice a few around here who did that long before your "System was introduced".

On the other hand I don't care about you, your opinions and what you perceive to be "the truth"

Seems you do care, because you're getting a little upset when challenged. Note........ ..........I've never made outlandish statements about how things are in Russia, what I have pointed out in your postings is how things ain't.

I'd like to see you type a post in Russian and see how you do

Not interested, I've no need to write in Russian, my wife does fine in English and in case you hadn't noticed, this is an English forum. BTW, that subject was discussed long before your arrival.

your nasty attitude

If you find someone challenging your ideas as being "Nasty", remember it is you trying to turn a buck out of this caper not me. I've long since gotten anything I wanted and more. Seems you are still trying to get something, IE: some money, therefore if you only accept clients who don't challenge you and are therefore not, as you put it, "Nasty", don't you think you might be limiting your scope just a tad?

Why don't you get a life?

I have one, thankyou for asking, quite a nice one actually, good salary, a few investments and a comfortable home among other things, not to mention a stirring wife. Anything else you think I should add to the portfolio? Oh don't mention nice cars, I have them, several.

I thought you finally found a woman

She found me actually as it turns out, quite a long time ago. What I have done is quite the opposite to what you are seemingly pushing. I've taken a comfortable amount of time to reach this stage as I was in no hurry. You see, my life was rather pleasant before she came into it and is simply now somewhat more pleasant.

so spend some time with her, that will be a lot more useful than writing

Really now? You are the marital expert suddenly. It might interest you to know my RUSSIAN wife rather shares my hobby of exploding the theories of the dreamseekers on a few forums also. Seems clueless beings exist on all sides of the globe not to mention the genders.

For you, obviously, no whatsoever difference. But for 10 million Hungarians who live in Hungary, and for another 5 million Hungarians who live outside the borders of Hungary, and especially for 1,5 million Hungarians living in Transylvania, which today belongs to Romania due to forced annexation after losing the WWI, there is a HUGE difference. Like saying, for example, what's the difference between Mexicans and Texans? 

If you want to offend any Hungarian, I repeat, any of them, it's enough to call him/her Romanian.

  I just knew this would come from somewhere. I cringed when I read Jet's post and thought ...........itsa cummin'..............and it did.

I was only showing I/O how Eduard was confused with the idea that Bucharest was in Hungary

Jet: I did kinda catch that bit............it's all the same over that way, them streets is lined with hotarses just a waitin' for ya'all to show up, might pay to spit that backy out first but, them good lookin' wimmin don't go for that too much. And, geography... :hairraising: :hairraising: what's that to them poor eastern wimmin, they ain't got the edeikation we's got anyways. Never mind if they can't speak your lingo when they arrive, the trusty "terp" will be at the ready, with his account also. Oh he might even do the DJ thing for your wedding if you can't afford a decent band. 

I/O

[Gator]

Where do I start?

Jet, I interpreted your two cities comment as in the context of this thread, it does not matter (same as my thought).

I/O,  It has been very apparent from the beginning that Eduard is not a quantitative man.  He is an intuitive rather than an analytic.  Many successful people are this way.  In group thinking intuitives and analytics frequently clash as evidenced by this thread.  Each RWD member needs to respect how other people differ.

Eduard,  Because you are not a quantitative person, you need to recognize that you will make mistakes with details.  Correct them and move on.  To defend your thinking as if to justify your mistake does you no good - it makes you appear recalcitrant and dogmatic, not the type of personality that most newbies would wish to hire.  People who must always be "right" usually do not do well in business.  In reality, you probably are very effective working with an individual because intuitives have excellent perception.  

This fuss started over your 8:1 ratio many pages ago, and nearly 100% of the subsequent posts have been about this mistake.  Just think how easily it would have been for you to say:  "Thank you for showing that 8:1 is statistically incorrect.  I will delete it.  To me it feels like 8:1.  For sure it is not like America."  In this theme, I really liked what Lit-1nce wrote,

Russia...must have a lot of what most people here are looking for, otherwise this would be one dead board to visit...I'm sure there are a lot of great women there, but be realistic, the streets are not paved with blonds.

Bluebell,
Most of us at RWD know the difference between the two cities, except we do not know how to pronounce Budapest correctly.  Why would Hungary want all those vampires in Transylvania?   Your words, "Like saying, for example, what's the difference between Mexicans and Texans?"  is a good analogy, except that Mexicans are slowly taking back Texas.  

[I/O]

Why would Hungary want all those vampires in Transylvania?

Isn't it more famous for a certain "Dracula"? :noidea: :noidea:

I/O

[Bluebell]

Isn't it more famous for a certain "Dracula"? :noidea: :noidea:

I/O

But yes, that one particular vampire, for which we can be thankful to Mr. Bram Stoker, should be enough for us. Then when we got Romania, we got other vampires along with it, like Vlad Tepes, alias Dracula or the most infamous one, Ceausescu. I think Transylvania needs a rest now from vampires 

Gator, try to pronounce Budapest like ['budapesht].

Jet, seems that I misinterpreted your joke.

Finally, as spring is already knocking at our doors and we were talking about Budapest, here is a song for you:



Queen singing a Hungarian folk song in Budapest 

[Gator]

Bluebell,

Do not give all of your gratitude to Bram Stoker - the legend of vampires had been around for a long time before his novel.  One version claims the first vampire was a lesbian. 

Here is a tour to Transylvania where one can participate in the ritual killing of a vampire (does that mean Buffy will be there) and see the real castle of Vlad the Impaler (sounds like the name of a Russian sex fiend):

http://www.visit-transylvania.us/europe-sightseeing-tours-romania/dracula-tour-transylvania-travel.html

Is this thread on its death bed?  I hope so.

[Eduard]

I understand Bluebell. I was only showing I/O how Eduard was confused with the idea that Bucharest was in Hungary 

jet, believe me I know where those cities are located respectively. Like a lot of kids, growing up in the Soviet Union I grew up collecting stamps and coins from different countries and had a huge world map on the kitchen wall of our appartment. So geography was actually an interesting subject to me and my dad and I went through my stamps and found the countries, studied the cities where the stamps were from since I was a child. As I explained before, I just scanned through i/o's post and when I went to respond a while  later somehow it got registerd in my mind as Budapest. But the point I was making that neither one of those cities are FSU ones.

[Lit_1nce]

Is this thread on its death bed?  I hope so.

All this talk of vampires.. more like the undead thread. 

[Eduard]

Where do I start?

Jet, I interpreted your two cities comment as in the context of this thread, it does not matter (same as my thought).

I/O,  It has been very apparent from the beginning that Eduard is not a quantitative man.  He is an intuitive rather than an analytic.  Many successful people are this way.  In group thinking intuitives and analytics frequently clash as evidenced by this thread.  Each RWD member needs to respect how other people differ.

Eduard,  Because you are not a quantitative person, you need to recognize that you will make mistakes with details.  Correct them and move on.  To defend your thinking as if to justify your mistake does you no good - it makes you appear recalcitrant and dogmatic, not the type of personality that most newbies would wish to hire.  People who must always be "right" usually do not do well in business.  In reality, you probably are very effective working with an individual because intuitives have excellent perception.  

This fuss started over your 8:1 ratio many pages ago, and nearly 100% of the subsequent posts have been about this mistake.  Just think how easily it would have been for you to say:  "Thank you for showing that 8:1 is statistically incorrect.  I will delete it.  To me it feels like 8:1.  For sure it is not like America."  In this theme, I really liked what Lit-1nce wrote,
Bluebell,
Most of us at RWD know the difference between the two cities, except we do not know how to pronounce Budapest correctly.  Why would Hungary want all those vampires in Transylvania?   Your words, "Like saying, for example, what's the difference between Mexicans and Texans?"  is a good analogy, except that Mexicans are slowly taking back Texas.  

Gator,
I agree with everything you said here including "my type being intuitive and not quantitative"
Yes, being a Pisces and a musician I am very intuitive and my clients value my abilities to recognise insincerity in women they are communicating with among many other things thus saving them a lot of time, expense and grief.
I realise that I'm not very good at sales, but most of it comes from me being a straight shooter and speaking my mind. Many people appreciate that quality. Others on the other hand will fall for a great professional sales technique and buy the product that lacks in value.
In regard to me admitting that 1:8 statistic was incorrect and deleting that from my site - That's exactly what I did - well I left out the thank you part...One would think that would be the end of that!!! and I stated many times that I neither came up with that statistic or posted it on my site trying to deceive anyone.The fact is that 1:8 totally made sense to me based on my personal experience of spending a lot of time in Russia. I'm still very puzzled by this and sincerely would like to understand where are all those missing men. I'm not being sarcastic by the way, just curious.

[Gator]

Eduard wrote,

In regard to me admitting that 1:8 statistic was incorrect and deleting that from my site - That's exactly what I did - well I left out the thank you part...

[This would have been the perfect place to shut up.  But you kept writing.]

One would think that would be the end of that!!!

[You did not correct your mistake at first.  You kept defending your number, making it appear as if you did not believe the statistical facts, which made you appear as if....enough said]

and I stated many times that I neither came up with that statistic or posted it on my site trying to deceive anyone.The fact is that 1:8 totally made sense to me based on my personal experience of spending a lot of time in Russia. I'm still very puzzled by this and sincerely would like to understand where are all those missing men. I'm not being sarcastic by the way, just curious.

[Suffice it to say that many American men receive enough attention from RW that it feels like 8:1.  Where are the men?  As a Russian who regularly communicates with many RW, you should know better than the rest of us.  All I know is what my fiancee tells me about the difficulties of finding a marriage-minded RM who interests her.  She lists all of your reasons plus another - "RM are ugly.  Only 1 out of 100 RM is "pretty" vs. 7 out of 100 Americans".   ]  

 

Eduard, you are improving.  Keep it up.

[SANDRO43]

I went through my stamps and found the countries, studied the cities where the stamps were from since I was a child.

I used to collect postage stamps as a kid, but they rarely bore any city information, except in the often barely-readable postmark.

In the 1950s, my family owned a large AM vacuum-tube radio set, and its wide tuning display showed 100 or so station city names, rather than frequencies. I still remember some of those 'exotic' names from almost all over the world (Barquisimeto, Cali, Kaunas, Hilversum, Simferopol, etc.) since long waves propagate very far, and it was some fun looking them up in an atlas, then trying to see from what farthest station one could actually hear a transmission .

[Eduard]

As a Russian who regularly communicates with many RW, you should know better than the rest of us.

and I thought I did, hence my insistence that 1:1 number didn't sound like the number that reflects the reality of my own personal experience. It still hasn't sunk in...it's the feeling you would get if you are looking at a white wall and somebody is telling you: "Gator it's black!" You know it's white, but they show you all the documentation from the painting company confirming that black paint was used...you kinda feel dumbfounded in view of provided documentation, yet your eyes are telling you "the wall is white!"
That's how I feel...

All I know is what my fiancee tells me about the difficulties of finding a marriage-minded RM who interests her.  She lists all of your reasons plus another - "RM are ugly.  Only 1 out of 100 RM is "pretty" vs. 7 out of 100 Americans".   ]  

Glad to hear that your own fiance confirms what I've been saying  - the reality that is so hard to accept for some members here, who think that everything I say is to "sell my services" and they know better...even though they don't even have 1% of my "russian experience"
I don't know about the "RM are ugly" part. I would disagree with that. there are both good and bad looking people of both sexes in Russia and anywhere else in the world, you can't generalise like that.
But from my own experience I would say that ON AVERAGE it seems like there are more attractive men in the US than in Russia, but there are a lot more very attractive women in Russia compared to the US.
Probably if so many women in the US weren't so grossly overweight it wouldn't seem to be as drastic of a difference. But it always strikes me how many good looking women are there as soon as I land in Sheremetyevo. Even the customs and police women at the airport in their uniforms, stockings, high heels... then I fly back to Atlanta and it's a very different picture...
Other than that I would like to say that being on this forum has overall been a positive experience in spite a some nasty exchanges. I get to sharpen my marketing skills and get some new ideas from more positive people who act like mature adults and do not resort to elementary school bully tactics.
Thank you gator for your constructive criticism and a positive, mature attitude.

[Eduard]

I used to collect postage stamps as a kid, but they rarely bore any city information, except in the often barely-readable postmark.

In the 1950s, my family owned a large AM vacuum-tube radio set, and its wide tuning display showed 100 or so station city names, rather than frequencies. I still remember some of those 'exotic' names from almost all over the world (Barquisimeto, Cali, Kaunas, Hilversum, Simferopol, etc.) since long waves propagate very far, and it was some fun looking them up in an atlas, then trying to see from what farthest station one could actually hear a transmission .

Sandro, glad we share the same childhood hobby
I didn't mean that the stamps had city names on them (although there were some series with cities on them) what I meant was that if I had some stamps from a particular country, my dad helped me find it on the map, then we'd look up the capitol (which he made me memorise) and the major cities of this country. Then as I got a bit older I was doing that automatically by myself. In no way I am trying to say that I have some specialised geographycal knowledge, but I do know my basics.

[Bluebell]

Bluebell,

Do not give all of your gratitude to Bram Stoker - the legend of vampires had been around for a long time before his novel.  

Not in Transylvania before Bram Stoker, they are indeed from import 

Anyway, I don't think anyone from the FSU, especially from Russia would not know about Budapest as capital of Hungary. I think Eduard's mind simply switched from Bucharest to Budapest unconsiously even to himself, due to some associations, hence the whole confusion. It already happened to me a few times.

[Bruno]

But the point I was making that neither one of those cities are FSU ones.

Budapest / Hungary :

Following the fall of Nazi Germany, Soviet troops occupied all of the country and through their influence Hungary gradually became a communist satellite state of the Soviet Union. After 1948, Communist leader Mátyás Rákosi established Stalinist rule in the country complete with forced collectivization and planned economy. The rule of the Rákosi government was nearly unbearable for Hungary's war-torn citizens. This led to the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and Hungary's temporary withdrawal from the Warsaw Pact. The Soviets retaliated massively with military force, sending in over 150,000 troops and 2,500 tanks. Nearly a quarter of a million people left the country during the brief time that the borders were open in 1956. From the 1960s through the late 1980s, Hungary was often satirically referred to as "the happiest barrack" within the Eastern bloc. This was under the autocratic rule of its controversial communist leader, János Kádár. The last Soviet soldier left the country in 1991 thus ending Soviet military presence in Hungary. With the Soviet Union gone the transition to a market economy began.

Bucharest / Romania :

In 1947, King Michael I was forced by the Communists to abdicate and leave the country, Romania was proclaimed a republic, and remained under direct military and economic control of the USSR until the late 1950s.

Eduard, both countries was never part from FSU... but they was members of the Warsaw pact... a tool used by the FSU to control other country... without being officialy part of the USSR, these satellite states of the Soviet Union was part of the communist empire !!!

From all i have read here from you, i can certify that you are a real Russian male... who never accept to loose, who will always argument until the other say that you are right... personaly, i am not sure that you are the perfect man for help western guy to find a RW... first, you are a bad example of intercultural integration... 3 year married, living most of the time in US... but having a wife who don't like American, a child who know nothing of english language... why do you stay in US ? Maybe for the $$$ from your US customer ?

Second, if you are a real Russian male... why i will trust you in finding the perfect wife for us... yourself say that local men ( Russian men like you) have not the qualities to make a good husband... sure, you seem to be right since other statistic show that divorce rate in Russia is very huge... let speak of "the blind leading the blind" situation... it seem to me that RW who think about foreign men are seeking something other that RM... your own example, showing a non-integration in your western host country will not be able to understand clearly what we seek and what these RW who are open to the world seek...

[Eduard]

Bruno...BRUNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
No, I am not the smartest man!!! I've met men a lot smarter than me...but you are not one of them. (I would never say that to anyone...but you started this my friend)
I will only address a couple of things you said:
you said that I'm not assimiliated enough and that I am somehow I choose to live in America just to make money off Americans! (I fail to see ANY logic in this statement since I think I would actually do more business as a guide and interpretor if I were living in Russia) and basically am a typical Russian male which prevents me from being objective, and able to help WM finding and getting to know RW. This is too funny!!!
First i/o says that I'm not Russian enough therefore I don't know what I'm talking about, now you are saying that I'm not American enough!!! You both seem to be the 2 sides of the same arrogant, bullheaded coin.
By the way I was married to an American women for 15.5 years and then spent 7 years in "common law" marriage with a RW that I met here in FL - the relationship that I ended by the way. And yes 3 years with my new and last wife - the one I found using all my past life experience and bi-cultural knowledge.
Well, how about understanding and appreciating that I'm in a very unique position being born and raised in Russia and living the other half of my life in the West and that you could actually learn a thing or two from me? But no...you just choose to be negative and attack.
There are a few things that you comment on, that you obviously have no clue about.
Like my daughter speaking only Russian at this point for example.
I guess you don't understand that children at her age will pick up english in a couple of weeks once she starts kindergarten. And in a couple of months her english will be as good or better than her Russian. The fact is that living in America once kids start speaking english it is next to impossible to make them speak Russian. English is all around them - people outside home only speak english, TV, music, everything is in English. It becomes a lot easier for them to communicate in English. I know many families that deal with this issue and yes we made this informed and intelligent decision to speak only russian to her so that she will at least get the basics and will be able to communicate with her grandparents and cousins in Russia.
Now the other thing: I said that my wife is not very comfortable with Americans. I didn't say that I was. I'm equally comfortable with Russians, Americans, Irish, Italians, Africans, whoever...as long as they are intelligent, respectful, friendly and positive people. Admittedly I will never speak or "feel" English as well as my native Russian but I do OK.
And lastly you put a quote in your post about some cities and just to let you know, that quote wasn't mine. You might want to go back and see who posted that and address your grievences toward that person, would that be fair?
PS
I've been to Lithuania several times when I was little in the late 60s and early 70s and the only name for the city of Kaunas used in Russia during those years was... Kaunas. My parents actually bought me a guitar in Kaunas (couldn't find one in Moscow in those days)
Bruno,
I sincerely feel bad that you wound up marrying a gold digger and went through a very painful experience, but I think you are displaying inability to learn from your mistakes and instead of learning a thing or two from one guy who could probably give you a pointer or two, you choose to act in an adversary,unfriendly manner...which is fine...I have my beautiful daughter sitting on my lap as I'm typing this and my beautiful, loving wife making us dinner, and that makes me happy.
Anyone who is reading this can make a choice to accept your version of "Success" or mine.

[Eduard]

Not in Transylvania before Bram Stoker, they are indeed from import 

Anyway, I don't think anyone from the FSU, especially from Russia would not know about Budapest as capital of Hungary. I think Eduard's mind simply switched from Bucharest to Budapest unconsiously even to himself, due to some associations, hence the whole confusion. It already happened to me a few times.

Thank you Bluebell for clarifying this for people with "special needs" That is exactly what happened.

[Daveman]

Gator,
I agree with everything you said here including "my type being intuitive and not quantitative"
Yes, being a Pisces and a musician I am very intuitive and my clients value my abilities to recognise insincerity in women they are communicating with among many other things thus saving them a lot of time, expense and grief.

I'm Pisces and a musician also... I guess I can be quite intuitive at times as well.  What I don't recall myself doing, however, is flailing around in what is obviously quicksand but when someone throws a rope, ignore it and swear before god and the world that I'm floating on a pool of Jello.

Your opinions are fine and your observations are welcomed, but no one person, whether of Russian lineage or not, can possibly be the definitive source of everything Russian.

Dave

[Eduard]

I'm Pisces and a musician also... I guess I can be quite intuitive at times as well.  What I don't recall myself doing, however, is flailing around in what is obviously quicksand but when someone throws a rope, ignore it and swear before god and the world that I'm floating on a pool of Jello.

Your opinions are fine and your observations are welcomed, but no one person, whether of Russian lineage or not, can possibly be the definitive source of everything Russian.

Dave

I wonder if our birthday is on the same day too?
Well Dave, obviously you are free to follow your own path and do what makes best sense to you. You can search for years, study Russian, spend tens of thousands of $$$ and at the end you will still wind up with the same (or worse) results that I got in one year and spent about $5K on the whole thing, including my fiance's ticket from Moscow to JFK.
I surely don't know a lot of things, but I sure as hell know what I'm doing when it comes to finding, getting to know and marrying good, family oriented and sincere Russian ladies.
before someone starts yelling that it couldn't be done for 5K, my answer to you is yes it could and that's exactly what it cost me. if you consider that I didn't have to use any agencies, had a place to stay in Moscow for free and only had to pay for 2 trips to Moscow and for my wife's ticket to NY and DHS fees it will all add up. And I did spend most of time getting to know my wife on line, chatting on MSN messanger for hours, talking on the phone pretty much every day and spending 6 weeks together (3 weeks at a time) in Moscow.
And I was able to dublicate my process sucessfully with 16 married clients and 5 more awaiting visas. Obviously it costs them more since they do have to pay for acomodations and my services but it still is a very reasonable all inclusive (tickets, acomodations, meals, entertainment, visas) price of around 10K. If they want to make another trip to Russia to spend more time with the lady add another 3-4 K (this time he goes by himself)
But still it's a lot more reasonable than what I read some people spend on this and still get the same or better results.
I/O please don't start on the "RESULTS" thing, you don't know what your personal outcome will be in a few years either and IMHO you are due for for a little "correction" like the real estate market in Moscow!
The Bottom Line is that my clients get to know the ladies, have great connection with them, no language barrier while getting to know each other, they don't have to worry about gold diggers, scammers and insincere women. Will their marriage last forever? Noone knows that!
But they have IMO a much better chance to make this work than some other ways.
Daveman, to each his own and I can respect that. but don't knock my method till you tryed it either. is that fair?

[Bruno]

No, I am not the smartest man!!! I've met men a lot smarter than me...but you are not one of them. (I would never say that to anyone...but you started this my friend)

No problem... you are free to think what you wish...

First i/o says that I'm not Russian enough therefore I don't know what I'm talking about, now you are saying that I'm not American enough!!! You both seem to be the 2 sides of the same arrogant, bullheaded coin.

I/O day what he think... i say what i think... i have base my observation on your previous post... now, you have explain your logic related to child and wife... i accept it... but not fully share it when it is related to child and language... i have my own experience in these domain... my ex-wife have act like you... but it was a hell for the child when she have start school... the first years of the child is needed for the main language... later, once in children garden, it is not a problem for learn a other one, once the child have already some base in the main language... of course, thee remark is based on personal experience, and it have no real value... maybe a post of some expert can be welcome about it....

By the way I was married to an American women for 15.5 years and then spent 7 years in "common law" marriage with a RW that I met here in FL - the relationship that I ended by the way. And yes 3 years with my new and last wife - the one I found using all my past life experience and bi-cultural knowledge.

And when i think that in your previous topic, you was laughting that i was already divorced... a "common law" and already two marriage... are you sure that these is the last one ? Like i say before, RM seem to be expert in divorce...

Well, how about understanding and appreciating that I'm in a very unique position being born and raised in Russia and living the other half of my life in the West and that you could actually learn a thing or two from me? But no...you just choose to be negative and attack.

Sure that you have some "qualities" who can help a WM to find a RW... but until now, you have never show your wisdom here on the forum... you act like a bullhead, who fight statistic explaining that your own perception is the truth... once you are short in argument, you begin shoot more myth who reduce again you credibility...

For information.... i am not negative and i don't attack... i only make some critic based on what you wrote here... a critic can be positive or negative... in your case, it is more negative... it don't prove that you are bad but it only prove that some people here see you in a negative way because of your post... maybe the right move will be to see why some people react so bad to your post and adapt yourself to make post who will not be bad perceived by some... surely, you have qualities but until now, you have not show a lot of them here... maybe it is time to hire someone who can explain you how to make a good marketing project, someone who will find the best of yourself and teach you how to show it to the rest of the world...

And lastly you put a quote in your post about some cities and just to let you know, that quote wasn't mine. You might want to go back and see who posted that and address your grievences toward that person, would that be fair?

Yep, i have see my mistake directly after having hit the "send" buttom... and directly correct it in the few minutes following it... your post was make one hour after my correction... seem that you work with a proxy that don't update very fast !

I sincerely feel bad that you wound up marrying a gold digger and went through a very painful experience, but I think you are displaying inability to learn from your mistakes and instead of learning a thing or two from one guy who could probably give you a pointer or two, you choose to act in an adversary,unfriendly manner...which is fine...I have my beautiful daughter sitting on my lap as I'm typing this and my beautiful, loving wife making us dinner, and that makes me happy.

Not a gold digger, a GCG... now, she have become a gold digger with other male... in my case, it was no gold to dig 

No sure that you have can spare me this experience... she was able to fool her parents too... actually, her mother will not more see her... when she visit, her father hire a appartment for her...

Don't worry, i have something beautiful sitting on my lap too... just a lot of year more old that your daughter  i have no problem for date ladies... some of the last have FSU root... problem is too find the right one... these previous experience have a positive effect, i have become more carefull in my choice and i don't trust directly a woman... she need to earn the trust...

Anyone who is reading this can make a choice to accept your version of "Success" or mine.

Boy, don't claim victory to soon... it is only 3 year that you are married to your actual wife... and you are already to your 3th battle... try not loose these like the two previous... yep, i have loose a battle too... like a lot of people here... but i have not yet loose the war... in place of start new battle, i use other tactic... a lot of skimishes attack who allow me to know the "ennemy"... once i will feel ready and find a valuable "ennemy", i will start the final battle...

I have never use a agency and will never use them... method like your are very expensive and i don't need a baby-sitter or a translator... if i decide to seek a FSU lady again, i will simply take a pause career and stay one year in the FSU country from the choosen lady !!!

[Bruno]

And I was able to dublicate my process sucessfully with 16 married clients and 5 more awaiting visas.

Finally, you have just reply to one of my question from long time ago... 16 married client for a site started in 2007 is a good result...

What is so difficult to show your own numbers ?

[Shadow]

Eduard, I think I should start selling people my method. It is even cheaper as yours.
I spent in total 3k, including three trips. And as I searched for women with specific knowledge of a language that I speak, no matter which, there was no third wheel and no communication barrier. Communication during time apart was done by Skype (0.02 a minute), MSN and ICQ. As we are almost 3 years together, I think there is a good success rate.
Anyone who wants to try does not have to spend anything more than I did, just use the same criteria.
I got to know the women I communicated with, had no language barriers, and did not worry about scammers or insincere women.
Will it last forever ? Who knows. But being able to communicate directly gives a better chance as anything else.

[I/O]

I/O please don't start on the "RESULTS" thing, you don't know what your personal outcome will be in a few years either and IMHO you are due for for a little "correction" like the real estate market in Moscow!

Eduard: You will never find me holding my path and or marriage up as any example in this pursuit. Unlike you, I have a very realistic view of what can happen tomorrow...............anything.

The Bottom Line is that my clients get to know the ladies, have great connection with them, no language barrier while getting to know each other,

Goodness man you do live in some delusion. Having to use a "Terp" IS the ultimate language barrier. That is simply the most ridiculous statement you have made yet.

results that I got in one year and spent about $5K on the whole thing, including my fiance's ticket from Moscow to JFK.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh now we are getting to the meat and potatos. Do it my way, do it cheaper. Bit of poor form there.

I sure as hell know what I'm doing when it comes to finding, getting to know and marrying good, family oriented and sincere Russian ladies.

Done it a few times have we? Any longevity record there to stand on? You surely make some big statements at times. Watch the space, any of us could end up single again when we least expect it. I learned that lesson long long ago.

you don't know what your personal outcome will be in a few years either and IMHO you are due for for a little "correction"

Pride commeth before the fall Eduard. I suggest you take a little of your own advice. The "Statistical" divorce rate among Russian men is a bit higher than among Au men.

I/O

[Bruno]

...they don't have to worry about gold diggers, scammers and insincere women...

Again something who make me nerveous...

Same a RM living in Russia can be victim of gold diggers, scammers of insincere women... sharing a culture or/and a language have never allow to read the mind from other people... daily, some RM choose the wrong RW... like some WM choose the wrong WM... all woman share something... the fact that men don't understand them very well... if you was yourself a woman, sure that i will trust you more for detect the bad one... if you was yourself a bad woman, sure that you will know more about how think a gold diggers, a scammers or insincere women... Men are clueless when related to women, same the "expert" understand only the part of the icerberg that they see upper the water...

[Bruno]

Having to use a "Terp" IS the ultimate language barrier.

Fully agree... some personal or intimate subject will never be spooken when using a "terp"... building a relationship need some privacy, and not only for the bedroom moment...

[Kuna]

I don't know why you're all giving eduard such a hard time... You're all getting hung up on the facts and that isn't the point...

His formula for success was pretty well laid out in his original thread for all to see.  It goes something like this:


Fiction + Fear + Fantasy x Desperation of the man = Success


This formula isn't so much targeted at the men finding "success"...  it's about making a few bucks where and when you can.

From memory eduard says he has 100% success rate for his clients... or was that the other guy running a similar deal in Ukraine???  Doesn't matter - same story, different book.

The point is that there are men who atually want to hear the story so much they believe it!  You know... you've heard the spiel before:

- Millions of women can't find a good man;
- All RW are beautiful, intelligent models;
- Russia is a terrible place for them to live;
- All the men are alcoholics;
- All RW have good family values;
- They don't care what you look like either;
- Don't use an agency, no decent woman would ever use an agency;
- I have a better way that doesn't need agencies - you'll be independent you'll see, I'll show you;
- Be careful though it's dangerous over there, the police will drag you away and beat you up;
- Even if the woman can speak English you'll need someone who understands Russian AND "American", it's the only way you'll understand each other;
- You can't travel alone - God forbid if you try to catch a train, you may never be heard of again;
- All of my clients are happily married;
- Listen to me, I've been successfully married for three whole years!
Oh, this is my favourite... - "Trust me, I am your friend!" 

How about we franchise this business...  We'll make a fortune!  We can call it "Eduard Web"!

The sad things is this whole pitch is lapped up by the men who need the reality check and facts more than anyone else... but the cycle continues!

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I stated many times that I neither came up with that statistic or posted it on my site trying to deceive anyone.The fact is that 1:8 totally made sense to me based on my personal experience of spending a lot of time in Russia.

Eduard....  Tsk Tsk Tsk...  you're a naughty boy! You've spent a lot of time in this thread claiming expert status (and slamming anyone who questions you) yet you read a stat that is clearly unsupportable and even with your "vast experience and knowledge of all things FSU" - it made sense to you...

Maybe the stat didn't make sense, maybe it was just something to add some zing to that stuff you're selling.

I know you're not the only one stretching the truth in your game... but I just get so tired of seeing the same ol' BS being committed all the time.

All the best to you and your family... 

btw, I have checked and eduardweb.com is available if you're interested.