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« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2005, 09:32:51 AM »
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TigerPaws,

My reference to your post was not an attack directed towards your wife, it was in reference to your stated attitude towards marriage. You wrote it, either you are able to plant your flag and defend it, or not, your choice.

I have several times questioned your background, you say you are a retired military general officer, frankly I don't believe that for one minute. Your writings do not reflect a college education. Your posts contain so many misspelled words that I wonder if you even finished high school.

Get over yourself.

jb, it is not for you to judge or prejudge what Tiger is or is not. If he says what he is then we are to believe him. YOu have no reason or proof to refute him. I can't spell for shit either and I have a college degree and I write and sell fiction novels and make some good money at it. Editors are my best friend. But I am what I am and TP is what he is. Not for you to refute. Your job is to post quality information to the forum population not to express your unfounded opinions. Got me?

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« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2005, 11:36:49 AM »
Very little true information is posted on this (or any other) forum.  What is mostly posted IS opinion, sprinkled with some first and second hand accounts.  What each forum member needs to do is read what is posted, and then decide who is creditable, and who is not.

When someone joins in a discussion, his creditability should be questioned, especially if they profess to possess good advice.  jb had a question about someone's creditability, and expressed it.  It is up to each person to decide who to believe.

Unless you believe everything you read on the Internet is true... :?

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« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2005, 12:10:51 PM »
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I can't spell for **** either and I have a college degree and I write and sell fiction novels and make some good money at it. Editors are my best friend.PeeWee

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« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2005, 04:05:35 PM »
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Your job is to post quality information to the forum population not to express your unfounded opinions. Got me?


LOL, ROFLMAO

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« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2005, 05:59:45 PM »
PeeWee,

Don't hurt yourself, both Tigerpaws and jb are big boys.

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« Reply #55 on: August 11, 2005, 04:19:58 AM »
peewee,

While I understand that not everyone is an educated wordsmith, there are several things that serve as a tip off to a lack of basic training. Some of the most common mistakes, besides spelling errors, are the misuse of words that sound alike, but are spelled differently and have different meanings.  For example, they're, there, and their. Also; we're, were and where, to, too, and two, advise and advice, affect and effect.  There a tons of examples and I see these mistakes very often.  These kinds of writing errors generally indicate a lack of education or at the very least, that a person wasted a lot of time and money buying an expensive and uncomfortable place to sleep during the daylight hours of his misspent youth.

Yes, I do make judgments about people based on appearance, actions, speech, and depth of thought, etc.  Since this is a reader's forum, I have to rely upon what a person writes and how well he can string words together to create a thought picture in my head.  Some do it very well, some do not pass muster.

Just so we understand each other.

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« Reply #56 on: August 11, 2005, 05:48:11 AM »
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Some of the most common mistakes, besides spelling errors, are the misuse of words that sound alike, but are spelled differently and have different meanings.  For example, they're, there, and their. Also; we're, were and where, to, too, and two, advise and advice, affect and effect.  There a tons of examples and I see these mistakes very often.
Good post, JB.  I agree with you on the correct use of a word, but not on spelling. PeeWee is correct that informal and shortcuts for words are ok for informal writing like we post here at RWD.

I'd always recommend a poster here approximate the spelling of a word rather than not use the word...  Any writer knows that.

However, I'll add another angle to the discussion...when I write my FSU girl, I ALWAYS use correct spelling and grammar because we learn how to spell by reading, and it's important for someone learning a foreign language to "see" corrrect spellings in print.  And I am refering to all print--emails, sms, and handwritten letters.

For example, when my girl used to sms me she wrote bett for bed.  Now she writes "bed" because she picked up on my correct spelling of the word :)

I think it is great that we are shifting this discussion away from murder to literacy... :)
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.  michelangelo

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« Reply #57 on: August 11, 2005, 05:58:50 AM »
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I think it is great that we are shifting this discussion away from murder to literacy...


Actually I wasn't too concerned about the fact that she got murdered, there's nothing I can do to change that fact.  It's a shame, but it's past history, I thought the purpose of the thread was to highlight the lunacy of ignoring the red flags and marrying someone you don't know.

Silly me.

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« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2005, 03:06:50 PM »
First off, I am glad that Tigerpaws is a retired milliatary officer rather than jb.   I think if jb had been the retired milliarty guy we would have been in a few more wars.  jb is always in "attack" mode.

As far as any shortcoming in TigerPaws linquistic abilities first off he is often writing on a pda which puts him at a disadvantge to start.   Second, I think everyones abilites include areas of strengths and weaknesses and do not reflect intellegence or education or breeding or what ever qualities jb tries to use to judge people.   Henry Ford, who will be in the history books much longer than jb could barely read or write.  Does that mean Henry was dumb?

I have seen jb make some astute observations.   I also see jb as someone who is extreamly judgemental and jumps to many conclusions that are totally unbased in fact.   One example that comes to my mind is when I made a comment that I thought some (I am not saying all) russain gals were looking for a better life and a good husband and would be happy with someone who was not rich.   jb's take on that was that I was seeking a russian gal without the money to properly persue and support her.   Actually I was talking about other people like my friend in Michigan.   My finances are fine.   I have seen a half dozen times that jb jumped to some conclusion that was really stupid.  (I am saying the conclusion, not jb was stupid.  jb is smart enough, just too judgmental.)

Personally I think there are some great people here and there is some excellent advice.   I have learned a lot and if i am successful with my gal some of the ideas and mindset I acquired here will be a major factor.   I have to say a lot of those eye opening thoughts came from jb.   That was often his goal and there are parts of what he does that I can not disagree with.   It does bug me he feels it is so necessary to attack people and to jump to conclusions based on such flimsly whips of fact that are often totally out in left field.

I have to agree with TigerPaws that putting his wife in the same class as the poor murdered gal was in poor taste.   On the internet anyone can claim to be anything they want and it is hard to prove anything different.  Regardless I think most of us are fairly certain that TigerPaws is reasonablly sucessful.    I don't think I have ever seen tiger paws post anything that was an attack on anyone or was anthing other than helpful and informative.   I have to think if anyone finds it necessary to attack his wife or tigerpaws, the only motivation I can see is jealousy. 

 

 

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« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2005, 08:05:20 PM »
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I can't spell for **** either and I have a college degree and I write and sell fiction novels and make some good money at it. Editors are my best friend.PeeWee
OMG!  PeeWee you too!!!  Go to http://www.writers.net ...

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Hey, no kididng. We need to be pming each other or something.

 

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« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2005, 08:06:56 PM »
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PeeWee,

Don't hurt yourself, both Tigerpaws and jb are big boys.

KenC

That's what I had in my mind. It's why I jumped in there. I figured the general could use a few extra troops.

 

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« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2005, 08:13:31 PM »
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Sew your telling me that their is a difference between some words and that some people misused them? Your kidding me. I'd would never have know it. I'd wood never due it myself but their are some people that wood. They half too be morons ore something like that. Thanks four pointing that out two me, jb.

 

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« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2005, 08:16:07 PM »
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Some of the most common mistakes, besides spelling errors, are the misuse of words that sound alike, but are spelled differently and have different meanings. For example, they're, there, and their. Also; we're, were and where, to, too, and two, advise and advice, affect and effect. There a tons of examples and I see these mistakes very often.
Good post, JB. I agree with you on the correct use of a word, but not on spelling. PeeWee is correct that informal and shortcuts for words are ok for informal writing like we post here at RWD.

I'd always recommend a poster here approximate the spelling of a word rather than not use the word... Any writer knows that.

However, I'll add another angle to the discussion...when I write my FSU girl, I ALWAYS use correct spelling and grammar because we learn how to spell by reading, and it's important for someone learning a foreign language to "see" corrrect spellings in print. And I am refering to all print--emails, sms, and handwritten letters.

For example, when my girl used to sms me she wrote bett for bed. Now she writes "bed" because she picked up on my correct spelling of the word :)

I think it is great that we are shifting this discussion away from murder to literacy... :)[/quote]
Although we could combine the two and discuss murder mysteries. Murder on the Orient Express was one of my favorites.

 

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« Reply #63 on: August 11, 2005, 08:22:50 PM »
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First off, I am glad that Tigerpaws is a retired milliatary officer rather than jb.   I think if jb had been the retired milliarty guy we would have been in a few more wars.  jb is always in "attack" mode.

As far as any shortcoming in TigerPaws linquistic abilities first off he is often writing on a pda which puts him at a disadvantge to start.   Second, I think everyones abilites include areas of strengths and weaknesses and do not reflect intellegence or education or breeding or what ever qualities jb tries to use to judge people.   Henry Ford, who will be in the history books much longer than jb could barely read or write.  Does that mean Henry was dumb?

I have seen jb make some astute observations.   I also see jb as someone who is extreamly judgemental and jumps to many conclusions that are totally unbased in fact.   One example that comes to my mind is when I made a comment that I thought some (I am not saying all) russain gals were looking for a better life and a good husband and would be happy with someone who was not rich.   jb's take on that was that I was seeking a russian gal without the money to properly persue and support her.   Actually I was talking about other people like my friend in Michigan.   My finances are fine.   I have seen a half dozen times that jb jumped to some conclusion that was really stupid.  (I am saying the conclusion, not jb was stupid.  jb is smart enough, just too judgmental.)

Personally I think there are some great people here and there is some excellent advice.   I have learned a lot and if i am successful with my gal some of the ideas and mindset I acquired here will be a major factor.   I have to say a lot of those eye opening thoughts came from jb.   That was often his goal and there are parts of what he does that I can not disagree with.   It does bug me he feels it is so necessary to attack people and to jump to conclusions based on such flimsly whips of fact that are often totally out in left field.

I have to agree with TigerPaws that putting his wife in the same class as the poor murdered gal was in poor taste.   On the internet anyone can claim to be anything they want and it is hard to prove anything different.  Regardless I think most of us are fairly certain that TigerPaws is reasonablly sucessful.    I don't think I have ever seen tiger paws post anything that was an attack on anyone or was anthing other than helpful and informative.   I have to think if anyone finds it necessary to attack his wife or tigerpaws, the only motivation I can see is jealousy. 

 

 

Yes, I have to agree. jb is a yoyo. But what do I care? I, for one, am not so judgemental as he. I don't attack anyone or call them names. And because TigerPaws is a military man, as was I, I hold him in the highest regard. Beyond that I do not care about it bacause, my brothers, in 4 short days I will be a happy guy sipping Russian beer at some street side pub in Arbat watching those great looking RW stroll by.

 

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« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2005, 12:28:48 AM »
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User Ranking: Mana

WowBB uses an advanced iterative algorithm to determine the most respected users. A user "adds mana" to other users she respects, and the more mana she has, the more the increase in recipients' manas. A user can also change her mind, and remove mana from someone to whom she added mana before.
 
So, each members will be able to judge the quality or validity from other without begin make post who are at the limit of insult... and it will not be the meaning from one individual to a other individual but the meaning from all the communauty from RWD over these individual...

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« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2005, 01:21:36 AM »
It's not a popularity contest.  We aren't picking the Czar and Czarina of the prom here.

If you like or dislike someone's manner of giving advice, so what?  It is more important that the advice is good or not.  Again, I will present that it is for each person to take the time to read what is written, look at the source of the information, and decide who's advice is worthy (and who is blowing smoke out of their a$$).

Everyone wants a shortcut.  Tell me who I should listen to.  Tell me what I should believe.  Tell me which woman I should chase.  And most dangerous, tell me what I want to hear.

Guess what?  There are no short cuts.  Everyone needs to do his own leg work, and make up his own mind himself.

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« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2005, 01:52:24 AM »
Greetings gentlemen. As moderator I am well equipped with erasers, editing tools and padlocks. Unless you want this topic closed please keep the posts limited to news about the Singerman case.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2005, 01:52:00 AM by Moderator »

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« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2005, 02:03:59 AM »
Humm, even though I am a guilty party here, I think I am going to like this new moderator.

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« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2005, 02:20:04 AM »
Welcome, Moderator!   We are glad you have assumed this role.

I hope you will take a broad view of what is related in a topic, though.  Life is interelated, and literacy is connected to the topic at hand.  I think what most of us would like to see you do is focus on limiting personal insults that go beyond a post or two...thanks :)
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« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2005, 02:21:06 AM »
Ohh la la.. first post a threat?.. how bout an intro?

[edit] regarding a bit upthread, in any case it always helps to look at principles before personalities. I've learned good things from even very bad and offensive posts.

Who is Singerman? :shock::D:D
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« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2005, 02:36:30 AM »
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Greetings gentlemen. As moderator I am well equipped with erasers, editing tools and padlocks. Unless you want this topic closed please keep the posts limited to news about the Singerman case.

A Moderator :X I don't like them but sometime, they are needed ;) ... i am sorry for you, i am not a easy man :cool: ... i have already a question ! Why will you closed a full topic if some post are out topic... in some way, you punish the topic starter :X ... in so situation, will not be the "eraser" better :P ?

I know, the rule for the moderator are certainly the same that for Dan... we cannot critic decision... but i don't care... i say always all i think... European of not, change nothing...

In any case, good luck with these "work"... it is not a easy one... and maybe it was needed here...

 

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« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2005, 02:38:32 AM »
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Ohh la la.. first post a threat?.. how bout an intro?

[edit] regarding a bit upthread, in any case it always helps to look at principles before personalities. I've learned good things from even very bad and offensive posts.

Who is Singerman? :shock::D:D

Intro was made by Dan: http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/view_topic.php?id=743&forum_id=1 

No threat, a promise.

Iryna Singerman born Meyer is the Ukrainian model found dead, if you would care to read more than the last page.

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« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2005, 02:45:55 AM »
Ah... The new sherriff in town.  So much for Dan's lighthanded moderating style.  :?

(Feel free to delete this, and any other one of my posts...)

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« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2005, 02:46:18 AM »
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Ohh la la.. first post a threat?.. how bout an intro?

BC, don't have you read the administrative section this morning !!! Dan have present him... European, anonymous,... maybe me ? No, not possible because he is "quite balanced in their perspectives and has no "bone to pick" with anyone on the board" . Whow... a neutral... i have certainly miss him :D... of maybe it is you BC !!! Living in Italy, you are almost European and enough neutral in you post...

In any case, he have a lot of courage... several people here, and i count myself are not easy... but until he is neutral, he will be always welcome, same if he cut, edit or delete some of my post :?... and maybe this can allow Dan to have more time for his wife and have some holiday... yep, he have right to a private life too ;).

 

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« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2005, 02:46:37 AM »
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A Moderator :X I don't like them but sometime, they are needed ;) ... i am sorry for you, i am not a easy man :cool: ... i have already a question ! Why will you closed a full topic if some post are out topic... in some way, you punish the topic starter :X ... in so situation, will not be the "eraser" better :P ?

I know, the rule for the moderator are certainly the same that for Dan... we cannot critic decision... but i don't care... i say always all i think... European of not, change nothing...

In any case, good luck with these "work"... it is not a easy one... and maybe it was needed here...

 
Erasing or closing will depend on the topic. Erasing can be done in an early stage, this has gone on too long.

Anyone is free to question my decisions or ask questions. Please do this in the Administrative or No-Holds-Barred sections. I have no influence there.

Thanks for all the good wishes....for more questions you know which sections to place them. Back to topic.
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