Ukrainian Model found dead

[Shadow]

care... i say always all i think... European of not, change nothing...

In any case, good luck with these "work"... it is not a easy one... and maybe it was needed here...

I think it was needed here already a few times. and hope the Moderator can stop the pissing matches here.

http://www.jurgita.com/models-id37452.html the modelling profile of Iryna

[Bruce]

I'd like to know something about you before my days are done here.  Dan, any word on this sudden "moderation."  Is this a joke???  Ah, I read your post up above.  So we have a moderator.  WF = What For???

Thanks,

 

Bruce

[BC]

BC, don't have you read the administrative section this morning !!! Dan have present him... European, anonymous,... maybe me ? No, not possible because he is "quite balanced in their perspectives and has no "bone to pick" with anyone on the board" . Whow... a neutral... i have certainly miss him ... of maybe it is you BC !!! Living in Italy, you are almost European and enough neutral in you post...

Actually Bruno, I did see the admin post, and no "it is not I am".. This thread is done with anyway, old news now so why not just send it to anything goes and we can carry on..  The new Euromod may be a real nice guy and all but honestly I'm not impressed with his/her initial style which reminds me of a strict Germanic 'by the book' cop.  Moderation is one thing.. policing another. I hope he/she is aware of the difference.

[Admin]

Guys - relax about the moderation. As the board continues to grow in members, it become obvious I could not keep up with everything. Yes, there will be another 'style' for people to adjust to - but you have to know that I am not someone who promotes stifling or restrictive regulation - and neither is the moderator. All we want is that people remain civil and refrain from flamefests and personal attacks - and a gentle nudge from time to time to remain on topic.

- Dan

[Bruno]

http://www.jurgita.com/models-id37452.html the modelling profile of Iryna

Wowww... she was only 19 year old, almost 20 ( birth 27 augustus 1985 ) ...

If i remember, she was listed the first time in scam list the 10 july 2003, the second time the 2 augustus 2003... she was not yet 18 year old...

And more... she was in her first year of marriage... if i count the time of K1... the marriage... short dating... yeeek... she was certainly below 18 year when she have meet her husband and the two other guys...

I don't know the law in USA but here in Belgium, it is prohibeth by the law for a adult have a relation with a minor ( someone below 18 yo )... and it is a unirversal law... same when it happen in foreign country... we can go to jail...

All these old guys have date a child  And agency have allow a minor to post a profile, date American man, scam American man, all this before her 18 year old... And these child was from the agency GetMarriedNow and KhersonBrides... yep, she was from the agency that Kevin have several time speak here...

The guy who have marry her was a fool but what to think about the marriage agency... it is not normal !!!

[corncrowe]

http://www.jurgita.com/models-id37452.html the modelling profile of Iryna

Wowww... she was only 19 year old, almost 20 ( birth 27 augustus 1985 ) ...

If i remember, she was listed the first time in scam list the 10 july 2003, the second time the 2 augustus 2003... she was not yet 18 year old...

And more... she was in her first year of marriage... if i count the time of K1... the marriage... short dating... yeeek... she was certainly below 18 year when she have meet her husband and the two other guys...

I don't know the law in USA but here in Belgium, it is prohibeth by the law for a adult have a relation with a minor ( someone below 18 yo )... and it is a unirversal law... same when it happen in foreign country... we can go to jail...

All these old guys have date a child  And agency have allow a minor to post a profile, date American man, scam American man, all this before her 18 year old... And these child was from the agency GetMarriedNow and KhersonBrides... yep, she was from the agency that Kevin have several time speak here...

The guy who have marry her was a fool but what to think about the marriage agency... it is not normal !!!
[/quote]
Bruno,

Here in Texas the legal age is 17.  I found out from a young girl because she kept asking me to go out with her, sort of like buy her drinks and dinner.  But I kept thinking she had to be 18 or it was jail for me.  When she turned 18, I laughed and said "Now you're legal.".  But the laugh was on me because she was already legal.

No, I wouldn't have dated her but it was "and remains" something that she likes to remind me once in a while.

We learn something new all the time...

Jon

[BC]

Indecency with a child is a felony of the second degree, unless the actor was not more than three
years older than the victim was, of the opposite sex from the victim, and did not use force or a threat
of force against the victim during the offense. In that case, the offense is a felony of the third degree.

[ConnerVT]

It's not a popularity contest.  We aren't picking the Czar and Czarina of the prom here.

If you like or dislike someone's manner of giving advice, so what?  It is more important that the advice is good or not.  Again, I will present that it is for each person to take the time to read what is written, look at the source of the information, and decide who's advice is worthy (and who is blowing smoke out of their a$$).

Everyone wants a shortcut.  Tell me who I should listen to.  Tell me what I should believe.  Tell me which woman I should chase.  And most dangerous, tell me what I want to hear.

Guess what?  There are no short cuts.  Everyone needs to do his own leg work, and make up his own mind himself.

 

I wonder where the "flamefest" or "personal attack" was in it.  True, not specifically on topic of the threads title, but the subject had run it's course.  In all, I thought it was solid advice for ALL people who post on a forum, no matter what the subject.  This board discusses topics that have widely varying opinions, and some are very emotional.  It's not a home decorating forum, after all.

I think RWD is taking a wrong turn.  Finding the right woman in another country and making a successful marriage is very difficult.  If a person can not survive on an Internet discussion forum, what chance do they have surviving this?  A sanitized series of "Atta Boys!" does more disservice than silence.

[Admin]

It's not a popularity contest. We aren't picking the Czar and Czarina of the prom here.

If you like or dislike someone's manner of giving advice, so what? It is more important that the advice is good or not. Again, I will present that it is for each person to take the time to read what is written, look at the source of the information, and decide who's advice is worthy (and who is blowing smoke out of their a$$).

Everyone wants a shortcut. Tell me who I should listen to. Tell me what I should believe. Tell me which woman I should chase. And most dangerous, tell me what I want to hear.

Guess what? There are no short cuts. Everyone needs to do his own leg work, and make up his own mind himself.

Â

I wonder where the "flamefest" or "personal attack" was in it. True, not specifically on topic of the threads title, but the subject had run it's course. In all, I thought it was solid advice for ALL people who post on a forum, no matter what the subject. This board discusses topics that have widely varying opinions, and some are very emotional. It's not a home decorating forum, after all.

I think RWD is taking a wrong turn. Finding the right woman in another country and making a successful marriage is very difficult. If a person can not survive on an Internet discussion forum, what chance do they have surviving this? A sanitized series of "Atta Boys!" does more disservice than silence.
[/quote]

Conner,

I don't think Moderator's comments were directed toward your post - I think it was a general comment aimed at the overall thread drift.

In any case, please give it a little time and I feel confident you will see things improve here.

And BTW - your comments about personal accountability were dead-on, and I hope all the newbies (and others) pay heed.

- Dan

I wonder where the "flamefest" or "personal attack" was in it.  True, not specifically on topic of the threads title, but the subject had run it's course.  In all, I thought it was solid advice for ALL people who post on a forum, no matter what the subject.  This board discusses topics that have widely varying opinions, and some are very emotional.  It's not a home decorating forum, after all.

I think RWD is taking a wrong turn.  Finding the right woman in another country and making a successful marriage is very difficult.  If a person can not survive on an Internet discussion forum, what chance do they have surviving this?  A sanitized series of "Atta Boys!" does more disservice than silence.

Dan is correct. It was not directed at you but at a number of posts before. Please do not judge this turn of RWD until you have some more experience with it.

[jb]

I don't think many of the posters who got their noses out of joint ever understood the value of the thread.  True, at it's core, there is a dead woman, Iryna Meyer/Singerman, who by most definitions, was a young woman of very questionable moral upbringings, a young girl who was on track as a scammer and prostitute well before her 20th birthday.

To my way of thinking it was never about the dead prostitute, it was always about the choices men make.  It seems the men who have the most tender sensibilities in this thread are the same ones who are involved with very young girls,,, so be it. The Singerman case has a 50+ y.o. man married to a girl 30 years younger, did he really believe she was solely interested in the size of the bulge in his bananahammock?  Soon after arrival she then began an affair with a man 40 years her senior, does anyone believe she was sincerely in love with him? Not even close, she saw the size of his bank account as the prize.

What I, and others, have tried to get across to all you aging lotharios, is that bad women get started on the path to prostitution at very young ages.  Good women don't just turn bad at age 40, it's part of their character early on.  Take a good long look at the scam sites, most of the scammers listed are beautiful girls in their 20's.  The common theme is: Beautiful young girl gets engaged to a middle aged man after a one week visit = a girl with an agenda for cash or a green card.  If you, a 50+ y.o. man, meet a hot young 20's y.o. babe, and she accepts a marriage proposal within a week, and you think it's love, you need your head examined.  You are living in a dream world that has little relation to what the rest of us deal with.

TigerPaws gets pissed whenever the topic comes up,,, that's his choice.  However, by his own admission he claims he got to marry a beautiful young woman because he's rich.  His way of saying it was, "Rich men have better options",  I don't care how you slice that pie, if you buy a woman's time and affection with money or lifestyle, that's engaging a prostitute.  A woman who will spend time with you only because you have money is no better than the hooker who sells love on the corner for 50 cents an hour.  

Them's the facts of life.

[corncrowe]

The common theme is: Beautiful young girl gets engaged to a middle aged man after a one week visit

Hey, now days you don't even have to visit.  I got engaged on my first email.  Read the exchange below starting with the last one first.  Can't imagine but I think we'll probably be divorced before the end of August.

P.S.  The last exchange (not listed) is where she invites me to Sochi and meet her in person. 

Jon

 

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Анастасия 11 августа 2005 в 13:19


First only we together -)







Jon 11 августа 2005 в 13:12


I suppose you will want a wedding dress? Maybe a big party with 50 friends and family to announce our engagement..:-)))

Maybe we can fly to Paris or Roma for our honeymoon?

Jon







Анастасия 11 августа 2005 в 13:05


Sure! Maybe in Europe?-)







Jon 11 августа 2005 в 12:21


I suppose you will want a wedding ring...:-))) Where will we go for the honeymoon?

Poka,

Jon







Анастасия 11 августа 2005 в 12:14


Good idea ! -)







Jon 11 августа 2005 в 01:40


So, will you marry me...:-)))

Jon[/align]
 

[jb]

Corncrowe,

Your Анастасия (Anastasia) sounds like a keeper.

[Shadow]

One more profile...the site where Ronald Singerman announced his engagement.  Note the date of November 4, 2002. She was barely 17 if we are to believe her model profile site

 http://www.russian-women-video.com/testimonials/group_tours.asp

 

Corncrowe...Zandvoort is a good place for a honeymoon

[corncrowe]

Corncrowe,

Your Анастасия (Anastasia) sounds like a keeper.

jb,

Yeah, but at this rate we'll be married by Monday, have our virual honeymoon by Thrusday, and divorced by Sunday.  Bummer, or burnout!

At least she has a great sense of humor.  I like that in a woman.  I did the same with another girl and she said "What are you crazy?".

Such is life in cyberspace...

Jon

[jb]

Shadow,

Yes, the evidence just gets more damning, foolish behavior begets disaster.  Ron Singerman was, and probably still is, an idiot.  He'll probably go back to the FSU for another hooker/bride now that he's free to do so.

[BC]

"culmination of lots of planning and research"

translated means: "I booked a flight online"

[jb]

BC :D:D

gotta wonder how the new moderator reads these last few posts.

[BC]

jb,

at least it's on topic!

[jb]

Yeah, and if you will review the thread, I was never off topic until I was sideswiped by the idiotic left.

[TigerPaws]

 Like it or not if you work you are by any definition a whore, you are selling your time, your body and your knowledge, maybe not for sex, non the less it is the same. If a woman marries a man because he has money, power and or a high social status (if that appeals to her) and the man is happy so what? Love comes and goes like the tide, when a man and a woman come to terms with each other, respect each other and can get along well what else do you really need? 

 I have often said that I place 80% of the responsibility for a successful relationship with a lady from the FSU on squarely on the shoulders of the man. It is generally the man who seeks out the lady not the other way around, it is the man who funds the relationship. Far too man men enter a quest for a lady from the FSU under funded, without enough free time and do not take the time to understand what they are getting into. It is the choices a man makes, there is NOTHING wrong with wanting and acquiring trophy wife as long as the man chooses wisely and understand what he is getting into.

 Men of means simply have more options that dose not mean they will make the right choices, I am happy with the choice I made as are many other couples we know with a 18 to 22 years age difference.

[corncrowe]

[user=17]TigerPaws[/user] wrote: 
 I have often said that I place 80% of the responsibility for a successful relationship with a lady from the FSU on squarely on the shoulders of the man. It is generally the man who seeks out the lady not the other way around,


Well I must disagree with Mr. TigerPaws.  I am not what you'd say actively seeking women, pursuing a foreign bride, trolling the agency web sites for a young sweetie, but I did manage to have 39 women look at my profile in just one day.

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I had several write me, love me, and was engaged on my first email.  Duh!  Too many men have this wild expectations of finding a young bride from the FSU who will be their wet dreams.

I only "sometimes" will respond to women within a ten year age difference.  I think it's great to marry a woman twenty-five years my junior, but what???  She wants kids and a family.  Nyetski on this for me.

Did this young scammer marry for love?  No!  It's stupid to believe Skynner married other to get out of her present situation.  Women do that because it's better sometimes to sleep with a pig for a year than to sleep with hundreds of pigs a year!

Jon

 

[BC]

business is business..

to each his own.

[jb]

TigerPaws,

I guess that's what seperates us, I do not view working for a living to be the same as selling your sexuality for a living.  You see it as the same, I do not.  I'd like to see any survey that backs up your views.

Why don't you just admit that if you didn't have money your wife wouldn't have dated you in the first place?  You married a girl who was attracted to your bank account, and not your other fine qualities.  

Believe it or not, there are lots of fine looking FSU women who marry because they love the man, not his bank account.

[jb]

And I think the "Law of Holes" applies here.

"When you find yourself in a hole,,,, stop digging"