Russia is at it again!

[Warrior]

Just one example about Scyths in Coucasus

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Alans (Ossetians) are a group among the Sarmatian people 

Warrior,

you simply don't know the history what you are trying to talk about because you simply did not read even the works that are written by the Georgians historians and also by the historians of  the antique.

excellent !!!! you've been fallen on your own bait, fine The territory of Georgia is on the southern side of The caucas, and the South Ossetia is in the South of caucas you made me happy with your admire

You're russian mates are wrong the Alans are the tribes wchich came from IRAN to caucas, while Georgian Kingdom was in it's glory, King Parnavaz. and that alans lived in the north of caucas no in the south.

[Warrior]

Misha due to the Georgian historians South Ossetia has never been a part of Georgia till the Soviet time 

Agains lies, They talk about the Noth Ossetia, which has never been a part of Russia till they invided it

[OlgaH]

Before that General would annex this land, which country's was it?

It was just Ossetia (Alania), whole undivided Ossetia. Politically the borders between South Ossetia and North Ossetia were divided in Soviet time.

[Misha]

It was just Ossetia (Alania), whole undivided Ossetia. Politically the borders between South Ossetia and North Ossetia was divided in Soviet time.

Okay, so lets create an independent Republic of Ossetia combining both North and South Ossetia. Do you think Russia will agree to that? I somehow doubt it 

[OlgaH]

You're russian mates are wrong the Alans are the tribes wchich came from IRAN to caucas, while Georgian Kingdom was in it's glory, King Parnavaz. and that alans lived in the north of caucas no in the south.

And Again you don't know the history.  Georgian Kingdom was formed at the end of 10th century when Bagrat the Third united East and West of Georgia.

[Warrior]

This makes them crazy, that The Peter the great's father was Georgian, and his half-brothers and sisters, which were the russian kings Aleksei's son's were mentali weaked, illed. There would not be any Russian Glory if our healthy king would not have sexual contact with Natalia,  This is the horror reality for you guys

And that Georgians created your second Empire USSR, and Stalin did not want to public the works in which it was prooved that the Peter's father was Georgian, because as he said Peter was the only normal king which Russia had in awhole history, Ivan Grozny who was just a mad person, non-adequate. Ekaterina II who was a pedophile. So the only person with whom Russians were proud was The Peter, half Georgian man. This reality makes them mad

[OlgaH]

Okay, so lets create an independent Republic of Ossetia combining both North and South Ossetia. Do you think Russia will agree to that? I somehow doubt it 

Misha BTW they  think about it to restore whole Ossetia  as it was

[OlgaH]

Warrior,

you comment about a father of Peter the Great is just absurd that even doesn't need to be commented 

[Warrior]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Georgian_Kings

have a look at this

but don't think that its all. The list startes from the point when Iberia and Kolkheti were united. Because this is the list of Georgian kings, when the Georgian Kingdom was created, but of ocurse before this time lived Georgians there but without an United Kingdom.

[OlgaH]

Warrior,

read the Georgian chronicle "Kartlis Tskhovreba" 

[Warrior]

but you say that Sarmats are the ancestors of the Alans and They used to live in north of Caucas, then how did they appeared on our territories? they just came to us.   you come in resistance against youself

Of course you deny that fact about the Peter, But it is a terrieble reality, he was Georgian and another Georgian Stalin left him as Russian for you.

[Warrior]

Warrior,

read the Georgian chronicle "Kartlis Tskhovreba" 

you'd better learn Georgian and read it in original without your "kremlin" translators and you will know the truth. But you are not gonna learn it and then keep it away what you do not understand realy

We read our history and that's why we are so proud, not like you, look around what is your history, a Pedophile Ekaterina, a mad Ivan grozni, Invider Ermak, occupied territories and tirany, This is a well known fact that Russians prefered to be Christians than muslims and there was only one reason, Muslim banned the alchohol(vodka) and russian kingdom said that thay could not bann it to their nation. This was the only reason why they choosed christianity.

[OlgaH]

Warrior,

Sorry,  but what you have written is written due to the Georgia nationalistic ideas that denies even the historical facts that are written by the Georgian scientists and some of the your imaginative information  is very low class and show your lack of knowledge and  even your arrogance.

[OlgaH]

BTW you should say thanks to Catherine the Great and Irakly II, otherwise the Georgia probably would be still under Muslims 

[Jack]

watch the map, where russia born,

Kyiv, Novgorod, the two most powerful cities of the Kyiv Rus dynasty.

Rus men, the land of Rus   =  Russia

Warrior,  you simply don't know the history what you are trying to talk

Olga, from my observation, Warrior appears to know his history quite well.

[Misha]

Misha BTW they  think about it to restore whole Ossetia  as it was

As a vassal state within the new Russian Empire.

[Warrior]

THANK TO CATHERINE?   HER GENERAL TOTLEBEN RAN AWAY FROM THE BUTTLEFIELD WHEN WE WERE FIGHTING AGAINS OSMALS AND LEFT US AGAINST THEM, SHE WITHDRAWED HER FORCES FROM GEORGIA DID NOT HELP US AND LEFT US ALONE AGAINST PERSIANS, AGHA MOHAMED KHAN, AND GEORGIAN MUSLIM CITIZENS WERE DEFENDED TBILISI. CATHERINE SHOULD HELP US IN WARS ACCORDING TO TREATY OF GEORGIEVSK.

IF NOT GEORGIANS THERE WOULD NOT BE SECOND RUSSIAN EMPIRE, AS WELL AS THE FIRST ONE

YOU'VE READ OUR SCIENTISTS WORKS BUT YOU COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'VE READ AND COULD NOT MAKE CONCLUSIONS.

YOUR RUSSIA IS ONLY NOVGOROD,RYAZAN, SMOLENSK, MOSCOW, PETER, THE REST TERRITORIES ARE OCCUPIED, WILL YOU DENY THIS TOO?

[OlgaH]

Warrior,

Who occupied the territories of America?  should we talk about it?

Irakly II came to Catherina with his request because Georgia could not defend itself in the wars with Turkey. So, who won the war?

Warrior,

If Ivane Javakhishvili wrote in "The history of Georgians" (due to the Kremlin as you say  ) that the Caucasus is not a motherland of Georgians therefore the remains of their initial culture can be found here, and he also based his work on the ancient historians, why the  Tbilisi State University still has his name?  And you were ignorant even about this fact as you confessed 

Warrior, as I see you did not read any of that work therefore you can not understand 

[Warrior]

Yes that's right, but Catharine did not help us. According to the terms of the treaty she was obliged to help us but she did not accomplished it and finally you occupied us.

I said that perhaps these georgian works are translated as Kremlin want

It's you problem that you can not understand it actually, I wrote it for thousand times, you need to read again it. I can asure that in Georgian, we do not have the conceptions you write, that's why I think that this is the part of changing the history of Georgia, you try to do it more than hundred year. You want to give a wrong information to people who read these posts   But it's insensate, YOU HAVE LOST POLITICAL AND IFNORMATION WARS

you want that ossetia was an independent? then why you have occupied it?  you said ossetia "joined" russia in 1830,  for you occupation is "join" like keningsberg,northern caucas, karelia, siberia, chukotka, kamchatka and so on  but when we want to restore our constitutional order on our territories you call it occupation. You hate our president why? because he is a patriot of his country?  because your "presidents" have a complex speaking with him. if you put them on themselves are much shorter then Saakashvili.

Russia will split up for many lands, northern caucas, Tatars republic,Siberia,

and the territories of the other countries keningsberg, karelia, the kurilii islands and so on

America was invided by France, England, Spain, Netherlands but none of them rules it.

[Warrior]

Yes, you've lost the political war and this is your last, already defeated buttle, all the TV s of Russia are controled by Kremlin and announce whatever Kremlin needs for the moment but it did not help us, you are alone, nobody has given you a political support cause everyone sees what country you are.

[Warrior]

you see you've lost here too I asked you so many questions and could not answer me in a normal way, you speak in plain terms, can not give a well-founded arguments, you're information is based on  only the channels and sites which I said are controled by Kremlin,and you come in resistance against yourself Yeah, unfortunately no more THIRD RUSSIAN REICH

[Warrior]

Why did your army invided Czekhoslovakia? Hungary? Finland ? Lithuania?  You can always find a reason to start a war if you want. Your tricks are well known for the world and that's why you stand alone now You've been sticked in USSR and still live in it   Never mind, that rotten Russian government will go soon, who believe that the biggest geo-political catastrophe was the collapse of Soviet Union.

[steviej]

Warrior, I'd like a clarification of who you are. Why is it that, right at the time of the conflict between Russia and Georgia, you show up on RWD forum as some Georgian national, posting in this particular thread? You are a Georgian man seeking matrimony with a Russian girl? You have been looking for 0-2 years for a girl in Russia? But never seemed to find RWD , or participate here, or have any opinions or questions for anyone here, umm ... until all of a sudden, sitting happiliy in Tbilisi, there is a Russian/Georgian conflict so you join .. . RWD? And start hammering away in this thread? None of that adds up my friend. You are a troll. You may actually be Georgian, but a Georgian troll none the less, IMHO.

Olga, you are awesome         

[Warrior]

I have not been registered here to find someone somewhere, I registered here after that when I saw that our russian friend Olga was giving you a wrong information, it was about my country and I won't stand if someone wants to change some historical facts of my country, and I wanted to tell you the truth, now it's up to you whom you will believe   And I'm very sorry if I enticed to with my 0-2 years, I'm not seeking anybody, I just wrote it at random, it did not have any importance for me.

[Warrior]

so it's very clear even blind can see that Russia's goal was to change the Georgian government,as I said the Ossetians are only the troll in their hands, the troops had been directed to Tbilisi and Igor Giorgadze which is blamed in terrorism and hides now in Moscow, with the support of Kremlin was ready to take control over the Georgia. As you know Lavrov told to Rice that Saakashvili should go, I think it's enough when the minister of foreign affairs of Russia talks about this, as in general diplomats are very discreet and their each word are told with a foresee. Russian army invided in Georgia with a huge amount of troops, it was obvious their plans had been missed to South Ossetia.