Wife split!

[William3rd]

They ( consulates) dont see it because they are not looking for it. They are looking for relationship factors and reasons to exclude. Same thing as spotting a prostitute- hard to spot when they are off duty. But the same morally bereft soul. Human garbage on the inside.

 It all depends on the acting ability of the female-or male in some cases.

Anyway, we have Marriage of Rabie and some other cases that make annulment a good option here. And that unravels the green card completely.

No- that particular case ended up with a 4 year marriage and a green card. Too busy having sex with other men and women outside of the marriage to care for those that she volunteered to care for.

[BC]

Anyway, we have Marriage of Rabie and some other cases that make annulment a good option here. And that unravels the green card completely.

That does instill confidence in the legal system.  Why knock it sooooo many other times when it comes to decisions in favor of the women?

[William3rd]

It just shows that it works both ways- Rabie was a male but the effect is just as devastating to the conniving female GCG.

VAWA works the same way as well. I have had a male recipient of a green card through VAWA.

[felix8787]

After reading this thread over and over for god knows how long and reading most of what is releavent in Wayne's past post, Wayne is an older gentlemen, late 50's early 60's if he is starting to receive SS income. His wife Oksana or whatever her name is, 33 or 34 now from what I read. This was his last post before this new thread started in RWD Discussion Groups / Immigration and Visas / Re: Unusual Problem  on: August 26, 2008, 12:40:37 PM.
Then when this thread started on  RWD Discussion Groups / Married / Wife split!  on: October 27, 2008, 12:51:45 PM.
1st post from pg 1

She came on a K-1 in March 2008.  Married in late April.  Sent in green card application soon after.  Went to USCIS for interview.  Passed except that wife has latent tuberculosis.  She went to local health department for treatment.  Sent back letter to USCIS saying treatment was started.  Green cards should arrive soon.

A little over a week ago, she got angry again, started an arguement.  Actually, it was all her anger.  Next day, came home from work, found wife and step-daughter gone, everything packed up and gone.  I called school Monday morning.  Step-daughter was in school.  Wife has old girl friends in many different states who came on K-1's.  Thought she may have gone to stay with one of them, but not.  

Wife took new car that is in my name; computer, cable modem, etc.  Bought a new modem and hooked up old computer.  Many debts ran up because wife likes to buy things and has expensive tastes.

Two days ago, wife shows up at house.  Angry!  Demands her mail, but she did not receive any.  Looking for green cards to arrive, probably.  Wife admits she has a boyfriend and moved in with him.  I wondered how she was getting all the expensive new clothes.  Tells me her immigration lawyer says she has to live with me for the green card issue.  Says she is moving back in.  

Everyone advises me to change the door locks to keep her out.  Don't think that is legal to do unless you get a court order.  Remember, I am responsible for them.  I have to provide.  

Before the visa interview in Moscow, the medical exam and tests are done and the results are picked up later that day or the next morning.  The TB skin test is usually checked after three days.  I think she new there was a problem and did not tell me about it before our wedding.

No sex since the wedding night.  Wife? moved into seperate bedroom.  Believe this was planned all along. She doesn't clean, cook or do laundry for me.  House was never so dirty before.  Lets her dog mess all over the house and does not clean it up.  

Any ideas?  Help!

She came in March and married in late April. Was there sex before you got married? Or only on the wedding night? Moved into seperate bedroom, WHEN? the next morning?Sent in GC application soon afterwards and 5 1/2 to 6 months pass and still no sex, before this post was made. Sometime before the 20th of Oct she got angry again. Does she get angry alot and for what?, she packed her stuff and daughters stuff and moved out the next day while you were at work. Wife takes car, computer and modem, wife shows up 2 days later angry again? Why? Oh thats right she is looking for her GC Admits to having boyfriend and moved in with him. Wonder how long they have been talking before moving in? Before she got here or after?Can we all agree that this is just plain wrong. Then tells him that she is moving back in because her immigration lawyer told her she has to live with him for the GC issue to get GC. Wayne if you think that she knew she could have a serious medical condition with TB and neglected to tell before you get married, there is something seriously wrong with her.

2nd post on pg 3

I want to thank everyone who responded and tried to help.  Wife has been coming to the house to check for her mail while I am at work.  Not sure I can stop her from getting the green cards when they come.  Interview was more than a month ago.

My Son is staying with me for moral support.  Wife came into the house yesterday.  Told Son that he cannot stay.  Probably she doesn't want him to witness anything.  

Changed the lock.  Deprogrammed the garage door opener.  

Yesterday, the transmission blew out on my old car with more than 200,000 miles.  So a big repair bill!  Meanwhile, wife drives expensive car while I make the payments.

I need to find a way to get the car back.

She doesn't have a job and I have no idea where to serve her any papers.  What if I wait to see what she does after finding out she is locked out?  I am in very bad position money wise.  When I went through a bad divorce and custody battle in 1991 to 1993, I finally ended up representing myself in court and got better results than the 7 attorneys that were involved in my case before.  Anyway, everytime I contacted her attorney, she had to pay.  

Yes, I was involved with Svetlana from Ukraine starting in 2000.  

So she hasn't moved in yet because son was still in the house. Do you really need the car back? Tell the bank to come and get the car back if you are making expensive payments on it that you don't want to do anymore and buy her a used car, if she doesn't like it tuff S**T, she'll at least have a car. If she didn't like to help around the house, what makes you think that she will go and voluntary get a job? Like Maxx and William has said get yourself very good legal counsel.

3rd post on pg 5

If I earned more money and had less debts, everything may have worked out.  Wife was expecting a better life.  Still, that is no excuse for cheating.

Daughter and I had a very good relationship.  I treat her just the same as my other two daughters, who are now adults.  I am probably the closest thing to a real Father that daughter has ever had.  When I was cleaning up after they left in Daughter's room, I found some greeting cards.  Most of them were in Russian and they were all brought back from Russia.  Included in daughter's collection, were ALL of the greeting cards that I had sent to wife!  In daughter's dresser drawer, she had saved the wedding decorations.  Daughter and I got along just fine and there never any problems.  

I was married before and we had 4 children.  The divorce started when they were still young.  I tried to get custody of all the children--but is almost impossible for the Father to get custody!  When X got custody, I hardly ever got my visitations.  Finally, the fiend of the court made a "show cause" hearing.  The judge found X in contempt of court and ordered make-up visitations.  He came very close to putting X in jail.  X followed the visitations rules for a while, then went back to her old ways.  I did nothing about it because I did not want X to go to jail because of what it would do to our children.  

So now I will tell you how happy I was to have a child, daughter, into my home.  You know, I love children and nothing would make me happier than to have another child.  Of course, how do you have a child if you don't make love!  

So, when I looked to FSU countries for a younger woman I was really wanting to start a new family.  There was one 35 year old Ukrainain woman who was never married and wanted to have a child.  I wrote to her for about 6 months, but never went to meet her.  I think that was she less attractive, but a much better choice for me.

So what do I do now?

There is never an excuse for cheating, if you cheat you are gone, plain and simple. But how would making more money and having less debt make everything work out? If she never loved you in the first place no amount of money is going to change that. If anything it probably would make her more hungry for more money and make it all about her.....what is it the me me me me syndrome.
Well that is good that you and her daughter got along and she probably liked you, but blood is thicker then water.
Wayne so you went with Oksana over the Ukrainian woman because she was better looking? Were you looking for a trophy wife? If you were looking to make a family why didn't you just adopt a child if you love children so much?

4th post on pg 5

I had installed a dead bolt lock on the door.  Today, she came with an officer.  My son opened the door and let them in.  She removed the lock.

5th post on pg 5

Son called.  She is at the house moving back in.  Too late to set up a hidden camera.  Son lives with his mother, not near me.  I have no where else to go.

So she moved back in. Get yourself an attorney ASAP!

6th post on pg 11

Wife knows about this forum, so I need to be careful not to say something to be used against me.  A member who has not posted for a long time lives near us.  He married a UW how is very friendly and kind.  She is attractive, but not beautiful.  A little over weight.  Wife and UW were becoming close friends--but other member forbid UW to have anything to do with us.  I think he thought we are a bad influence upon his marriage.

Wife rerceived the work authorization card in mid July, but has not found work.  Wife was a Russian Hairdresser.  She needs a license to work in the field here.  Part of our problems is because of things that happened to us that were beyond our control.  First, all the problems getting the visas and bad luck.  Then, when they came, Delta lost part of their luggage.  I helped wife fill out the forms listing all the items lost and it totaled up to more than $6000.  Since it was an international flight, the payment received was only about $1600.  There is this lower limit on international flights ccmpared to a $5000 limit on domestic flights in USA.  So a wise idea for anyone traveling and bringing all their belongings to pay extra for flight insurance.  Anyway, Wife had a very large file from the embassy to hand carry.  Also, there was the dog.  So she packed important papers in the checked baggage.  Warning! Never pack anything in your checked baggage that is important and difficult to replace.  Wife lost many expensive items including the wedding dress.  I had to replace many things.

I tried to help wife find work.  I printed out many job opening descriptions.  I found an opening for a full time "Front Desk Person" at a very fancy, upscale European spa in the downtown area.  This position would not require a license as she would not be working on customers.  The name of this spa is based on the world famous Russian Ballerina, Anna Pavlova.  What better person could you have greet you as you enter this spa than a beautiful Russian woman, with the cute accent?  Wife never even went to check on this position.

I have limited computer access now.  Wife put a lock on the room where the computer is located.  So I can only write from my work at lunch or after work time.  

There is a wide range of opinions here.  I do not want people to think that wife is such a terrible person. I think she is getting advise from a lawyer and other Russian women.  Yes, I live in the beautiful country.  There is natural all around.  It is much different from the busy city where wife lived.  I know there were many adjustments to be made.  That is why I kept staying in there, hoping for things to get better.  Come on, many guys speak about the difficulties adjusting to a new life.  

Again with this she's attractive but not beautiful and a little over weight, are you sure you were just looking for a trophy wife??I'm going assume that the reason why the other forum member forbid his wife from talking to you guys is probably because your wife was telling her of her plans or whatever woman gossip that they talked about and the Ukrainian wife told her husband and he pretty much stopped his wife from becoming poisoned by her. It's not you that was a bad influence, it was her!
So you went and helped her in recovering almost everything that was lost, that is still no excuse for what she is doing. If she loved you she would of appreciate your efforts in helping her.
Wife never wanted to work! Only thing she is working for is her GC. Everything else is moot.
I sorry, if she can come with the sheriff to undo a lock you put on the door and tell your son to beat it, then you sure as hell can do the same! It is your house also!!!!
Would a terrible person tell your son to get lost and put a lock in a room that you have a right to access because it is also your house? Either she is incredibly naive or she is just terrible and is indifferent to you in her goal to get her GC. I would believe she is the later. She most of known where you lived right? I know that you are hanging in there hoping things would change, but unfortunately they are not Wayne.

7th post on pg 12

Daughter goes with mom.  I have stayed away, so I do not know if they are actually living at my house.  The room with the computer is where wife slept.  Wife took the computer that was there away, so I set up and old one, mainly so my vontage phone would work. I would be dumb for me to use a computer that she has access to.

I put a lock set on my bedroom door and moved some things in there.  I don't think whe will take or destroy my things, but if she does, I will report it to the police and insurance agency.

I might go back to the house to see what's up, but not alone.

The other day, I did not see that they brought much back into the house.  Whatever it was, it must be locked up in that room.

What is so important about having that computer, is there some stuff on there that she doesn't want you to know that would possibly show proof of fraud?

Wayne I am sorry that you are going through this and you have my sympathy, please do yourself a favor and heed the advise of the fellow experienced members here and get represention now, quit dragging your feet!

By the way ( it is simple to understand) being locked out with the child IS the shortest way for DVC and shelter. Did you guys think about it when you recommended it to Wayne? No, you didn't. Keep going.
Next smart advise would be taking a car from her. Just keep going.

Yeah, but staying as you say to give it a second chance without knowing her mental state is also a bad idea, she could be very sweet and loving just to set him up for a DVC. What then Doll? Are you going to run to his rescue? Give him a hug, pat him on his back and tell him everything is going to be all right and then tell him sorry about your DVC against you...so sad to bad. Great advise there, another thing, Wayne doesn't own the car, the bank does....if he choses not to pay the note and lose the car because she won't work to pay for it herself, then that is just to bad. Yeah Wayne keep going.

And there is already a police record just because he changed the locks.
Now take the car, stop  buying food and you are done.
Are you with me? Meaning are you following me?
Wayne , talk to her.

How do you know there is a police record?? Did you call there to ask if there was? Again, Wayne does not own the car out right, the bank does, until it is paid off.
Stop buying food??? She made a voluntary decision to leave to be with her boyfriend and then moved backed in with the advise of her immigration attorney for her GC issue, if she wants food, as far as I read she still has her arms and legs and is smart enough to seek an immigration attorney, so she is capable of getting a J O B as the one that Wayne has tried to set her up with but she neglected to go and check out. So how can he be done??? Wayne you are not done! Far from it!

Again and again- there must be a VERY serious reason for the wife to do what she is doing. This reason is her husband unless she is totally stupid which I doubt.You need to admit it guys. She is not AW (father-mother-sisters-brothers here), she has no place to go and she has a kid.

So your saying that after they had sex on their wedding night, what about 6 months ago that there must be a very serious reason to what she is doing. And that the reason must be her husband unless she is totally stupid which you doubt.
It makes me wonder what the hell has she been doing all of this time? Oh yeah that's right I forgot, she has been having sex with this makeup boyfriend that she has while Wayne was at work. Yeah so blame the husband, nice scape goat.

I don't think there is any bf at all.

So if there was no bf, what the hell was she consuming her time with because it sure as hell wasn't a job.

Forget it! Nobody made him marry her, nobody made him file her GC papers.
He will loose it and money.

And vice versa Doll, nobody forced her into marrying him also, she could of just stayed in Russia but you know what, that GC sure is a powerful motivator to come over here on a sponser.

Do you really want this question answered?)))

It makes me wonder, if things work out, great, but if things don't work out do you tell them to use the guy for the 2 years for the GC or if she says no, do you tell them to push them to the limit to get DVC against them to get the GC faster? Inquiring minds want to know.

Guess and give straight advises. Go and change the locks - he did. And what?
Now he has a police record.
"Go get her mail and the car". Watch what is going to happen if he listens.
Hire the attorney and kick her out of the country. Just watch, guys, how much it would cost him and how fast he is going to loose his money.

Again you don't know if there is a police record, did they charge him with anything??? Did they take him down to the station and book him??? No, I think not.
And how do you now exactly what is going to happen??? You don't, you are assuming......So Wayne take her advice, work things out so that she uses you for the next what 2 years and drains you dry and subject yourself to possible setup for DVC. Yes go ahead and walk on egg shells for the next 2 years watching over your back and your hard earned money goes to waste on materialistic junk.

Ok, if Oxana only wants her first GC- she will peacefully leave as soon as she gets it.
There is no marital property except this car.

So Wayne should just bow down to her and let her step all over him so that she can get her GC, do you honestly think that she will leave peacefully? Do you talk to Oksana personally and can guarantee her leaving peacefully?
Again bank owns car, she doesn't own it and neither does Wayne. She can keep it if she gets a J O B. But I highly doubt she will and will suck Wayne dry.

as for the car- go and sell it back to the dealer.

LOL, yeah sure, hey Mr. Dealer, there is still a lien on the car, can you buy it back from me and I would still walk away with a profit.

 

It is not easy to get annulment in his situation- he married her and then filed the papers for GC. If it seemed fraud for him then he worked for it himself.

http://www.immigrationfraudvictims.org/CA%20Family%20Law%20Case%20for%20Immigration%20Marriage%20Fraud.pdf
This is the link that William posted for an annulment. Re marriage of Rabie.
RRRRIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTTTT....Hey honey Oksana, I would like to work for a fraud against myself with you, so can you please make my life hell for me.

One more thing- searching for annulment will push her to the corner for sure.
Why not divorce?

Of course it would, because probably never had any intentions of staying with Wayne from the get go. An annulment probably would mean that she gets zip nada.
While a divorce means that she gets some sort of support, basicly a free ride until she finds her next boyfriend or husband.

I do understand his intentions, just think that she also understands that annulment is her ticket out and she will fight.She will fight no matter what which is not saving money, no way. They need the agreement.
Or- OK- let him go for annulment and then watch.
( as for the the goal of this forum- it is called "Discussion forum" which is exactly what we are doing)

So the agreement should be, I live here 2 years, you support me and daughter, I have sex with whom ever, just not you and when I get GC, I take half...Agreed???

It will happen if he goes for the annulment. She will have NO CHOICE. Do you understand how a person can act if this person has no choices? This person will have to "get through the wall" (the wall will have to be ruined)

Yep no choice but to file false DVC against a man who wanted so much a family with her just so that she can get her GC that much faster. You know RUIN THAT WALL which is Wayne. Yeah that sounds like a good trade off, hm, ruin man's life for GC.  

Wayne said:

I do not want people to think that wife is such a terrible person.

If you go by the “facts” that Wayne tells us then why do you ignore that part of the facts?

I didn't ignore it, but would a reasonable person believe that a non-terrible person would do this?

You havent the slightest idea what you are talking about, cheerleader. Clearly, you do not think at all.

If you can read, read Marriage of Rabie. Run a search. It pops right up. It should make very clear to you that on this thread, you should just STFU.

William you are way to funny.

Not the whole thing but I went back and read his stories about his first marriage and Svetlana from Ukraine. Same pattern now.

I read them also and he barely talks about it, it was more or less about Oksana his current GCG. So unless you have so sort of magic link to his life stories that we are not aware of, please post a link for all to read and prove me wrong.

How much????????????????? Is it 3 thousand 9 hundred?

Where did you find this quote. Because I looked everywhere in Wayne's post and he makes no mention of that and even did a seach and went back thru his old post and found no such quote.

Ok,if so then lets move up- she needs her 2 years GC and only I suppose.
And probably the car.
Talk to her- if she is going to live in your house for two more years and get her permanent residency then it won't work for you, Wayne.

Sure she can keep the car, if she can afford it. Her other option would be to drive a junker, which I doubt she would want. Gotta keep up with those expensive taste. Wow, finally some sound advice. It won't work for you, Wayne.

Doll,

  Please tell us more about the size of Waynes house and any other particulars you may be privy to. In case you have evidence of this through the subjects wife or friends and associates please contain that here also.
  In effect you can stand on firmer ground and we may believe you more if in fact your statements are true. If in fact your statements are speculation then of course you are guessing and your input is seen only as speculation and not worth the words you write. So be so kind as to state the facts and source of you so-called information and leave the guessing to the fortune tellers.
Makkin  

Makkin, Wayne did say how big his house is.

I still have a mortgage, but it is only for about 30% of the home's value.  If I rented out my house, I would need to find a place to store all my things.  I might be able to store all my furniture and stuff in the 3-car garage, and rent the house without the gargage.  I would probably get about $2000 per month for the rent.  The mortgage takes $1000 per month, so I would have a net amount to add to the Social Security.  
  My home has 5 bedrooms, 5 baths, 2 kitchens, etc.  

Come on- I just read his old posts, you can do same.
He said how many bedrooms there were, also the location of his house and even how big his mortgage was. Also a lot about both his Ukrainian " adventure" and his Siberian one.

Am I missing something here, I read also his old post and there wasn't anything close to alot of both his Ukrainian Adventure and his Siberian one. Where does it say location other then Michigan his previous post?

A few years ago, I was writing to Natasha from Simeferpol, Crimea, Ukraine.  Her Mother ran an orphanage there.  She told me about the many childen who were abandoned, and it is a really bad problem there.  Many times, American couples adopt these children.  I know of one family who adopted three children, already, from Ukraine.  Also, when I was at the airport in Simeferpol waiting in a long line, there was a woman and her adult daughter from America who make several trips to Ukraine each year and help with the poor children.  

There is an English speaking guide that I have used in Krasnoyarsk, Siberia who helps American families who wish to adopt Russian children.  Of course, in America, it is very difficult to adopt a baby or young child who is light skin, healthy and desireable, so many American families look to other countries.  

In FSU countries, many times, it is very difficult for a Mother to earn enough to care for her child.  Usually, a woman only has one child.  I wrote to Ella from Yalta.  She was 35 years old at the time, never married and without children.  She was looking outside of Ukraine for a husband who would be willing to start a family with her.  She told me that she had lived with a local man for several years, but he did not want to have a child.  They broke up because of this reason.  

It seems like it is difficult for a FSU woman over 30 years old with a child to find a good local man.  

Is this his adventure that he is talking about?

A few years ago, I was writing to Natasha who lives in Simeropol, Ukraine.  She is a professor of denistry.  From what she wrote about it, dentists are very low paid in Ukraine.  I take it that the materials and procedures in Russia and Ukraine are far behind US standards.  If you girl is in Ukriane or Russia, I would only have emergency work or cleaning done there.  Major work should be done in America.

My Oksana is missing some back teeth; probably they could have been saved with a root canel and crown.  

There is the possibility of dental inplants for missing teeth, if you have the money!

Oh, here's another adventure!

I was involved with an Ukrainan woman who is a very talented Artist, very emotional and has mood swings.  However, I would not consider her to be bi-polar.  I did find out that she does not always tell the truth--so that ended the relationship!

Wow so many adventures I don't know where to start.

I did a home stay visit in 2001 in Ukraine.  Svetlana went to the OVIR office and filled out an application.  It took two months to get the invitation, which she then mailed to me by express mail.  The cost was about $100.  The invitation was completely in Ukrainian or Russian, I don't know because I could not read it.  Of course, you do not need a visa for Ukraine anymore. I stayed at Svetlana's house.

Why don't you just get a tourist visa with a letter from an hotel.  You can get this from GO TO RUSSIA.  Then when you get to her city, go to OVIR office and register, or pay the hotel a small amount to register you.  

Here's another fabulous adventure from Wayne.

I spent two weeks in Old Town Warsaw in June, 2002.  The place was crawling with beautiful women!  The weather was very warm and the girls were dressed as such.  I was with my Ukrainian woman sitting on a bench in the Old Town Square, when a beautiful Polish woman sat down beside me and starting talking to me.  I do not speak Polish--but Svetlana knows some, and she really got mad.  I flew on LOT airlines from Chicago to Warsaw and back.  Chicago does have many Polish people and people travel back and forth.  You do not need a visa for Poland and I believe they can come here without one.  I found the Americans are treated very well in Poland as compared to Ukraine or Russia.

Man this keeps getting better and better.

A few years ago, I was in Western Ukraine and traveled 14 hours, one way, by car with two drivers and a lady.  I noticed many new churches being built, even in small villiages.  And they always had the gold top.  The other new buildings were mostly being made from large size bricks.  I noticed many buildings that were put up--but not completed.  One very large church was left uncompleted.  They told me that it would never be completed, because one worker fell to his death while working on the building.  

It was in June, and I noticed the cemetry was completely covered with flowers.  I never saw so many flowers at one time!  

Lena, I am enjoying your trip report very much.  Please keep it up.

Wayne

Interesting revelation.

I had a similar experience.  I was doing a K-1 for S.  She was at the US Embassy in Kyiv.  I got a call from her best friend, M.  S had been married, had a child, and been divorced.  I knew all about this.  They were only married about 6 months.  He did not see his daughter.  We got permission from him to take the kid.  I thought everything was fine.  So M tells me there is a problem.  S was married once before when she was very young.  The marriiage only lasted a few months.  But--S did not tell me about it!  She did not put anything about it on the biographic information form or the I129F.  But S brought divorce papers to the embassy for both exhusbands.  She had changed her last name twice.  So all of this had to be sorted out.  When M called me, they were worried that the embassy would find out that S did not tell me about the first husband, so M asked me to say that I knew about it but just forgot to list the information on the forms.  Big mistake!  I should have cancelled the visa on the spot!

Anyway, the visas were delayed while they did an FBI check on the other last name.  S and her Daughter came to America--but S was not satified when she saw my home and left.  Of course, I had sent many photographs of the house to S.  I found out that S had a problem with lying and could not be trusted.  I believe she will never make anyone a good wife.  Now I see she has profiles where she lies about her age and height.  

So my advise would be find someone else.  At least spend a lot more time together with her in her environment and meet all her friends and family.

I found the jackpot, the reasoning why this is happenin to Wayne.

Well that is all that I found Doll, that sure was informative on Wayne's past life and relationship on Ukrainian and Russian woman.
Wayne remember this post that you put up with helping another member.

Golden 25

You could have your attorney file a complaint with Homeland Security along with a copy of the diary and translation.  This looks like a case of visa fraud and you are a victim.  Perhaps you have a witness in your wife's ex-friend.  Your attorney could take her deposition.

Another suggestion:  take a copy of the diary and translation to a Psychiatrist who is very qualified and have them read it.  Perhaps you can line up an expert witness for your divorce/annulment case?

Have you changed the locks to your house?  Canceled credit cards and bank accounts?  Protected your valuables?

What I have found from going through an extremely terrible divorce to an AW is that you should hire the best qualified attorney you can find--regardless of the cost!  It saves money in the long run.

I do not know about the divorce laws in Iowa, but it might be an advantage to be the person filing for the divorce, instead of the defendant.

We are all trying to help you also as you were trying to help this person Wayne, go see an Attorney.

felix8787

[felix8787]

Sorry for the long post.

felix8787

[Doll]

How do you know there is a police record?? Did you call there to ask if there was?

I am sure there is one - cops don't come just to say hi to you

[Doll]

Yes, Felix, I read same postings of Wayne, so what? Same pattern- he is an eternal victim. It is a decease.

[Doll]

Have been thinking hard at night  - who are these GCG clogging the topic Willy is talking of? Any clue?

[felix8787]

I am sure there is one - cops don't come just to say hi to you

Again you are assuming there is one, a police offer can be called to assit but since she didn't file a report other calling them come to escort to the house, he was never arrested, so there is no record.

[Doll]

Again you are assuming there is one, a police offer can be called to assit but since she didn't file a report other calling them come to escort to the house, he was never arrested, so there is no record.

Yes, I assume it. I also assume that she knew about the locks and took care of this report.

[felix8787]

Yes, Felix, I read same postings of Wayne, so what? Same pattern- he is an eternal victim. It is a decease.

Are you serious? I have posted every post of his that has to do with any dealings with FSU, other then very very minor experiences that he posted, nothing came close to even remote demonstrate a pattern.
NOT EVEN CLOSE.

[Doll]

I do see a pattern.

[felix8787]

And you know this how? Oh yeah, thinking of a way to come up with DVC and abuse towards her.
So if she knew about the locks then she knows she is using him for a GC which you advocate, all the more reason and coming that much closer to filing that DVC against him, hey whatever, he's just a wall to go thru regardless of the consquenceses to Wayne right? Just another mule for a GCG.
Now all he has to do is take your advice and talk to her to works things out, but in reality she is just waiting for that perfect opportunity to create a setup a file DVC and get her coveted GC. But she can't because he is not around to create that setup.

[Doll]

Are you serious? I have posted every post of his that has to do with any dealings with FSU, other then very very minor experiences that he posted, nothing came close to even remote demonstrate a pattern.
NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Every time he picks a woman much younger, he supports them for a long time, does what they only want. They both came and left. Still can't see the pattern?
There is also something in common in his relationships with his ex and Oxana.

[Doll]

which you advocate, 

Where? Show me

[felix8787]

All of the post are up thread, please feel free to quote those quote and put together a patter, I will be more then happy to agree that there is a patter if there is one. So unless traveling to go and see a FSU is a patter then I am guilty of it as many other members here are.
So please, unless there is some unofficial link that only you have access to that Wayne talks about his adventure and shows a pattern, show them.

[SANDRO43]

All of the post are up thread, please feel free to quote those quote and put together a patter, I will be more then happy to agree that there is a patter if there is one

Patter as of raindrops beating on a roof, or patterN ?

[Doll]

Now all he has to do is take your advice and talk to her to works things out, but in reality she is just waiting for that perfect opportunity to create a setup a file DVC and get her coveted GC. But she can't because he is not around to create that setup.

Вот блин!  NO- he needs to follow your advise and start the annulment and kick her out of his house. I give 2 hours to her for DVC then.No, I give one hour
Go ahead.
Once more- I've been there on the other side, I talked to an attorney, I know what they tell women.

[Doll]

show them.

I DID!
PatterN

[William3rd]

Вот блин!  NO- he needs to follow your advise and start the annulment and kick her out of his house. I give 2 hours to her for DVC then.No, I give one hour
Go ahead.
Once more- I've been there on the other side, I talked to an attorney, I know what they tell women.

There it is- the confession. A gcg H in our midst. Not that it wasnt plain as day yesterday. . . .

BTW- GCG H all stick together. . . This one probably knows the one in question personally. . . . same lawyers, same declarations. . . same sociopathic tendencies, same milking of the system

[felix8787]

Again- how many GCG have you assisted?

Do you really want this question answered?)))

Hm makes me wonder, by avoiding this answer, to me seems to answer that you advocate GCG.

[felix8787]

I had a similar experience.  I was doing a K-1 for S.  She was at the US Embassy in Kyiv.  I got a call from her best friend, M.  S had been married, had a child, and been divorced.  I knew all about this.  They were only married about 6 months.  He did not see his daughter.  We got permission from him to take the kid.  I thought everything was fine.  So M tells me there is a problem.  S was married once before when she was very young.  The marriiage only lasted a few months.  But--S did not tell me about it!  She did not put anything about it on the biographic information form or the I129F.  But S brought divorce papers to the embassy for both exhusbands.  She had changed her last name twice.  So all of this had to be sorted out.  When M called me, they were worried that the embassy would find out that S did not tell me about the first husband, so M asked me to say that I knew about it but just forgot to list the information on the forms.  Big mistake!  I should have cancelled the visa on the spot!

Anyway, the visas were delayed while they did an FBI check on the other last name.  S and her Daughter came to America--but S was not satified when she saw my home and left.  Of course, I had sent many photographs of the house to S.  I found out that S had a problem with lying and could not be trusted.  I believe she will never make anyone a good wife.  Now I see she has profiles where she lies about her age and height. 

So my advise would be find someone else.  At least spend a lot more time together with her in her environment and meet all her friends and family.

Is this what you are basing your patter on???? Yeah nice pattern.

[Doll]

Willy, dear, we've been married for 7 years. Do you call it GC marriage? Then I am Alexander Pushkin

[Doll]

GCG H

What is  H    for?

[Doll]

Hm makes me wonder, by avoiding this answer, to me seems to answer that you advocate GCG.

Sir, I am not supposed to answer any questions here at all.