Cold Feet, Any Clues?

[GoodOlBoy]

Has anyone else noticed that ambach's actions and words are sounding more and more like Pike?

Yeah Scott, different faces same agenda.......Pike, Albert, Sex Tourist, Ambach123, (maybe Av8or1).


GOB

[BC]

Has anyone else noticed that ambach's actions and words are sounding more and more like Pike?

I dunno... Pike is at least up front with the ladies about his intentions.

big plus in my book.

[ambach123]

Spending ten days(and nights) with a very loving, beautiful, sexy, smart, intelligent (and funny) Russian girl in a beautiful city, with room service, sighseeing, fine dining etc.

I don't know what better can I ask for?

Who knows, she may be the final one!

She would be in love soon enough, but I am not so naive, middle class RW don't know this type of lifestyle, and a promise of such a life would seduce women from any country.

[GoodOlBoy]

Spending ten days(and nights) with a very loving, beautiful, sexy, smart, intelligent (and funny) Russian girl in a beautiful city, with room service, sighseeing, fine dining etc.

I don't know what better can I ask for?

Thats the common thread that runs through all of these "gentleman" (sex tourist's).

They always talk about "I" , "Me" or "Mine".

Never about "She", "Her" or "Us".

Bottom Line:......It's all about themselves.  :evil:

Who knows, she may be the final one!

Yeah....and there goes the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny. 


GOB

[OlgaH]

Spending ten days(and nights) with a very loving, beautiful, sexy, smart, intelligent (and funny) Russian girl in a beautiful city, with room service, sighseeing, fine dining etc.

Who knows, she may be the final one!

ambach123,

tell honestly, do you notify a very loving, beautiful, sexy, smart, intelligent (and funny) Russian girl that she may be not be the final one, before to invite her to spend ten days(and nights) in a beautiful city, with room service, sighseeing, fine dining etc?

[Gator]

Spending ten days with a very loving, beautiful, sexy, smart, intelligent (and funny) Russian girl in a beautiful city, with room service, sighseeing, fine dining etc.

I don't know what better can I ask for?

Nothing "better" if your perspective is limited to the short term and decadence.  You have done this twice before, exactly the same except the city and nationality of the woman were different.  There is a definite theme, Ambach.  Those with higher goals would call it a rut.

This lifestyle is okay if you are in a rebound from a broken relationship.  It does a beaten man's soul good to have the attention of a beautiful woman.  However, it is not proper to deceive the women about your intent and to keep repeating the same.  Someday you need to become serious about going on with your life.

Before I call the kettle black, I too have done the same, yet did not repeat it, was serious with each woman to the extent that I would cut the trip short if I felt no chemistry.  

To judge this St. Piter woman clearly, you should strive to not have sex for at least the first 3-4 days.  Learn if you can have fun just talking and doing nothing.  Learn if she is partner material.  Are you a strong enough man to do that?

middle class RW don't know this type of lifestyle, and a promise of such a life would seduce women from any country.

There you go again, trying to buy a RW. 

[Gator]

it does sound like you might be a good match.

 

[GoodOlBoy]

Yeah Scott, different faces same agenda.......Pike, Albert, Sex Tourist, Ambach123, (maybe Av8or1).

New RWD acronym: STS (Sex Tourist Squad), not to be confused with STD.  :evil:


GOB

[Gator]

Ambach,

You infuriate a couple of the RWD members.  Not me. You and your escapades  amuse me in a twisted way.  Anyway, I have sent you a PM with the email of the Hermitage Guide.   She conducts tours for the State Department.  And she knows a Gypsy restaurant and can teach you gypsy dances.

[Gator]

Yeah Scott, different faces same agenda.......Pike, Albert, Sex Tourist, Ambach123, (maybe Av8or1).

Not fair, and each is differnet in remarkable ways except for Pike and Albert who are one and the same.

[ScottinCrimea]

Ambach,

You infuriate a couple of the RWD members.

I think disgust is the more appropriate term.

[GoodOlBoy]

I have sent you a PM with the email of the Hermitage Guide.   She conducts tours for the State Department.  And she knows a Gypsy restaurant and can teach you gypsy dances.

For God sakes Gator....please tell me you are not "pimping" this poor woman (fresh meat) out to Ambach?  


GOB

[groovlstk]

Every time I read one of Ambach's threads I take a deep breath and remind myself to respond with something useful, that maybe he's not a bad guy and his manner of communicating simply lacks the kind of grace and consideration that a native speaker is trained to exhibit in normal discourse.

And then I read stuff like his last post and I realize my first instinct - "The horror. The horror." - was correct.

Ambach, I know it's easy for you to think that there is a cabal of RWD bullies who enjoy beating up on others, but I'm sorry to conclude that you bring it all upon yourself. 100%. My admiration goes out to guys like Shadow who can continue to treat you with respect. I don't have it in me. 

[Gator]

Every time I read one of Ambach's threads I take a deep breath and remind myself to respond with something useful, that maybe he's not a bad guy and his manner of communicating simply lacks the kind of grace and consideration that a native speaker is trained to exhibit in normal discourse.

And then I read stuff like his last post and I realize my first instinct - "The horror. The horror." - was correct.

Ambach, I know it's easy for you to think that there is a cabal of RWD bullies who enjoy beating up on others, but I'm sorry to conclude that you bring it all upon yourself. 100%. My admiration goes out to guys like Shadow who can continue to treat you with respect. I don't have it in me. 

One of the best posts that I have read in a long, long time.

[ambach123]

Thanks Gator.

Olga, I am quite sure, she knows she MAY not be the final one, she also knows she could be the final one.

Like they say " there can be many slips between the cups and the lips"; we both know what could happen.

It is quite possible that we may not like each other at all in person, ( though I don't think that would happen) but that is the risk we take in this pursuit. And even if we like each other, there is a long road ahead.
I would agree that if you can enjoy each other's company out of the bed, that is a major plus. Chances are good, she has a great of sense of humor, and speaks almost perfect English.

[mies]

"He (She) presented him(her)self more than (s)he actually was,"

Ambach - let's reverse the situation.

You communicate with woman online. You receive stunning hot photos - of a quality acceptable for Playboy, Hustler, Maxim and the like magazines. The girl is a gem. Through correspondence you feel also the emotional connection, and you are attracted to her personality. You ask webcam and once or twice she does appear on a webcam - same girl. Then you decide to file documents for her visa, you receive package from a girl and you realize that this isn't the girl from photos. She isn't fat or ugly or something - just average, moderately attractive - if proper outfit and makeup applied. She sends explanation that she liked your profile and she wanted to get a chance to know you - she sent you photos of her friend, and on a webcam you also saw her friend. The woman loves you so much, and she spent all her salary on internet and sms to you and to buy a webcam, and you are the love of her life, and she hoped that if she had a chance to show you her personality - you'd surely feel empathy for her feelings and maybe will fall in love with her too. That was the only motive behind her deceit. And this is true - you like her personality quite much. Or - actually - used to like her personality - when this personality was associated with the hot voluptuous beauty - not with this average woman.
So.
What are you going to do? Are you going to act like a "dog"  (from an English saying "i'm not a dog") or are you going to stick to the personality and hope that you will fall in love with physical features too?

Like they say " there can be many slips between the cups and the lips"; we both know what could happen

see- a person who knows that he acts right/properly - does not look for justifications, does not try to make the "significant other" look bad in order to justify own dishonorable behavior. You, on the contrary - are trying to find justification for your actions. You can't say upfront "i'm a sex tourist and i'm deceiving women because i like it" - you are trying to justify your actions - "she is heartless golddigger", "she dumped another guy because he wasn't rich enough so i can dump her", "these girls are only after money so i can use them", "maybe she will be the final one", "i think she understands what is it about" - hence - to me it looks like you know you are acting indecent/wrong. But you aren't brave, in addition to behaving dishonorably. You do not present the real masculine actions RWs are usually looking for. Money are not the most important thing after all - you need to develop some personal qualities too.   

[Diplomacy]

ty mne na ushi lapshu ne vesha! Is a good Russian idiom for you to understand Ambach.  It is far more relevant in the thread.  I put it in transliteration to help you out.  This way you can sound it out and if you here it, you will know what it means.

It means do not lie to me.  Do not hang noodles on my ears, is the English translation.  How can you marry someone you think is a lower class than you?  It is going to be awful strange, waking up to someone that you detest.

[OlgaH]

Thanks Gator.

Olga, I am quite sure, she knows she MAY not be the final one, she also knows she could be the final one.

Like they say " there can be many slips between the cups and the lips"; we both know what could happen.

Ambach123,

If they know what could happen they just can not be deeply in love Women, especielly educated and intelligent, don't fall in love with "many slips between the cups and the lips"

They are attractive, well educated, intelligent, and deeply in love. True there is no litmus test for the last one, just their words and actions. It has been my pleasure to know them.

[TwoBitBandit]

Has anyone else noticed that ambach's actions and words are sounding more and more like Pike?

I think that there was a lot more "intellectual honesty" in Pike.  Pike knew that he was just after nookie, and the way he wrote his stories implied that the girls knew this too.  I concede it's possible that Pike wasn't as honest as he implied, but there's no way for us to determine that.

That's very different than Ambach...

[ScottinCrimea]

I think that there was a lot more "intellectual honesty" in Pike.  Pike knew that he was just after nookie, and the way he wrote his stories implied that the girls knew this too.  I concede it's possible that Pike wasn't as honest as he implied, but there's no way for us to determine that.

That's very different than Ambach...

Actually there was quite a bit of evidence in Pike's posts that showed he wasn't as honest with the women as he implied.  I don't know about all of them, but with at least several that he mentioned, his actions suggested that he was offering them some hope of a future together and not just a night of nookie.

[Ade]

To answer your question, I have not decided what to do, I am still in contact with the previous two RW/UW.

And they've no idea you are screwing around with others, right? I have to shake my head at your proclaimed superiority over anyone here or anywhere for that matter; you are rotten to the core dude and you have absolutely no clue what is truly valuable in life.

[chivo]

I'm not sure where some of you are getting your information.

The chances of Ambach running afoul in the FSU are slim to none. Sure it "could" happen, just as it could happen anywhere.

Visa for Hungry is one of the easiest for Russian/Ukrainians but she will need to book a holiday from a local agent.

Again, this is not true. Yes, it is the easiest way, but hardly the only way. She could take her documents to the embassy, along with Ambach's/her itinerary and get the visa. Now she would most likely have to wait in line for hours, but that's another story.

I personally could care less about have or have nots. But to the OP, let me tell you what I wonder.

Sometimes you get to where you start having too much fun to the point that the woman becomes secondary. Sometimes you get to the point where your mindset is that while this one is great, there has to be something better out there to "chase".

IOW, the game never ends. If you want to play around and have fun, more power to you. I certainly have no problem with this. But if you are seriously looking for marriage you might want to check that business plan you're using and start making some changes, because you'll always find an excuse as to why the woman didn't measure up.

I'm not a "hater". I'm also not impress with money or jealous of anyone's success, God bless anyone who has achieved this. But, as someone who lives here and has dated more RW than you will in your lifetime, it can be a vicious cycle. I was the proverbial kid in the candy store. But when/where does it end?

The reason I feel that you might be headed for a disaster is because you will not have given proper time to anyone in particular, and your choice should you ever get that far, will be based on things not conducive to a long term partnership. I live here, so getting back in the saddle and changing my ways is much easier compared to your situations. Solving communication problems and their intentions are MUCH easier because I live here, and understand the culture/language better. You don't have this luxury.

None of these women are "deeply" in love  . Maybe you put this in to get a reaction from others, or maybe it's just to satisfy your ego, but come on, who are you kidding.

If you want to marry a woman from here, you should adjust your game plan. At this moment, the one you're using isn't going to get you the desired results. Smart successful men in business doesn't automatically equal smart successful men when it comes to affairs of the heart. Trust me, I've lived it...and changed. Good luck.

chivo 

I would agree that if you can enjoy each other's company out of the bed, that is a major plus. Chances are good, she has a great of sense of humor, and speaks almost perfect English.

I teach English as part of my income in Russia. I've met over 2000 RW this way and maybe 5 of them could speak almost perfect English.

I took one of the 5 almost perfect English speakers  to see Shrek 3 and she couldn't understand half of what was said in that movie. Don't overestimate the English level unless she has spent considerable time in an English speaking country.

[Mir]

She would be in love soon enough, but I am not so naive, middle class RW don't know this type of lifestyle, and a promise of such a life would seduce women from any country.

Only semi pro prostitutes are seduced by promises of a high life.
Perhaps it is an ego booster to think of one as a Casanova but the fact is that in this situation the man spending his money in order to get laid is the one being screwed

[ambach123]

You see so many wiseguys on this board, they don't have a clue about the socioeconmic system of society. Such ignorance just annoys me.

There is not a woman born, since the beginning of times that did not consider ability to provide as a major if not the most important critieria in selecting a mate.

Even when man lived in caves, men who were better hunters got more women, this has not changed in a million years and not going to change anytime soon.

[Vinnvinny]

There is not a woman born, since the beginning of times that did not consider ability to provide as a major if not the most important critieria in selecting a mate.

You may be right ambrach but the bad news for you is that there are many men who can do this providing you speak of and are likely to considered far more attractive to most women due to the fact they aren’t (readers insert your own negative personality adjectives).