Another statistic

[ECOCKS]

Well, I have no pre-nup so I guess both you and Donald are off my Christmas list.

Oh BTW, you're both stupid too, so there!  :evil:

[Mir]

And I guess Trump is God and his word the Gospal?

[Blues Fairy]

Oh my, oh my. 
Scott, I am so sorry to hear about your troubles.

I say get a divorce and put this behind you as soon as possible.  Let her file for removal of conditions all by herself, let's see how she manages it.  She doesn't strike me as a very organized or responsible person.  At least you will cease being responsible for all her endeavors.

I wish you the best of luck in dealing with this!

[Misha]

" Any man who who gets married without a pre nup is completely and absolutely stupid".

Speaking of stupid, can you not understand that there is more to life than money? A prenuptial agreement cannot save you from heartbreak. Do you think that if your wife leaves you after many years that you won't feel pain? Normal people, make an emotional investment in a relationship (though, I presume this is hard for you to understand). No prenuptial will save that investment, no prenuptial will heal the pain of loss, no prenuptial will save you from false charges or being put through an emotional/legal wringer.

[Turboguy]

Every time I have mentioned  a pre nup everybody here has poohed poohed it like a chorus of the demented choir. You wonder what planet these wiseguys live on?

I can't say any better than what Donald Trump said.

" Any man who who gets married without a pre nup is completely and absolutely stupid".

The advise is the same for Donald Trump or Joe Schmoe.

If I had the Donald's money I would probably insist on a pre-nup as well.  If I had his money I could probably afford lawyers that would make it not so important.  Joe Schmoe and I can do without a prenup although I do see the value of one.  If I saw any parallels between Scott's marriage and mine I would probably be wishing I had one but reading his story makes me appreciate my wonderful wife even more if that is possible.  

Still it is sad what has happened and I hope the worst is not ahead.   Facing something like Scott is you can never know what may happen.

I have to agree with what Misha said.  With my first marriage I basically came out of it with nothing but my clothes but I never cared about that.  It was just such a relief to have that nightmare over that money was the last thing on my mind.  For many the emotional strain can be the real hard part.  We can always make more money. 

[Mir]

A prenuptial agreement cannot save you from heartbreak.

It may not save you from financial disaster either......

[mark2353]

Scott,
I am truly sorry to hear. It is not a good thing I just got through a very nasty divorce so I hope that you do not have the same. I did not read all the posting but paper work prior to the marriage will save you tons of headaches. I do not recall who said it but close all accounts ASAP. Very bad mistake on my part!. File for divorce quickly that might cut down the damage ($$).

[Diplomacy]

Scott:

I was shocked, and I do wish you the best.

Ambach:

You have no class, and I guess you do know venom.  Like a spitting cobra.  Never would risk harm getting close enough, just uses distance as safety.  Please, do yourself a favor.  Do not post anymore about people attacking you, all you do is attack people.

Getting hurt by someone you love, is the worst pain you can go through.  If you had ever felt that pain, you would not have even thought about posting what you did.  You are as close to a sociopath, as I dare think about.

I am not certain you feel anything.  

Go away, and buy a conscious.

[ambach123]

Let me get this straight, according to Scott, he is broke, has no transportation, and he has no place to live as he is facing eviction.

But he was here insulting others, who know something about life.

I live in a mansion, I have multiple cars, my future wife will not own a thing, she would agree to it beforehand, and the two women I met have already agreed to it, If she does not agree she can stay where she is.

This is not rocket science.

These wiseguys are so eager to marry, that they never use any brains.

A prenup at the very least would not put him in the horrible situation he is in. You reap what you sow, you did not use your brain, you are facing an uphill battle, from which if you get  out with just your life, you would be lucky.

A sad ending.

[smilingjake]

Hi Scott  ----

So sorry to hear of your current situation. As far as with translation assistance, I would suggest Anastassia Ash at Regal Translation. I am not sure if someone previously has suggested her. She is extremely knowledgeable, caring, and goes way above and beyond in providing service to her clients.

In my case, she has always been available for any translations, or just there for you if you need an opinion or answer.

Hang In There ---

Jake

[Mir]

my future wife will not own a thing, she would agree to it beforehand, and the two women I met have already agreed to it, If she does not agree she can stay where she is.

Just as I thought, the man knows nothing about prenups.

[OlgaH]

Just as I thought, the man knows nothing about prenups.

Mir, I agree with you.

[ambach123]

I did not get my wealth by lottery.

I know plenty about prenups, it is some wiseguys here who know nothng about prenups or for that matter anything to do with money, and it shows. They end up on the street or in worse in the state penetinary on abuse charges.

Fear not, they would be taken out by their RW, one by one. You shall reap what you sow.

If you know nothing about money, money will not know you either.

The fact that my future wife owns nothing is perfectly legal, she has no input in my finances, she either works and has her own money, or gets an allowance.  The rest is none of her business. She would know that way up front. Sometimes even before our first meeting, as the case right now. I don't see any point in meeting with someone who does not know the rules before meeting.

Another thing, I would never bad mouth any  woman like this Scott wiseguy does, but then I would never be in his position, at least not in this lifetime anyway.

FWIW, my ex wife is still my best friend, we meet often as friends, she makes all my travel plans to look for a new wife, she even sends text messages to my GF in Russia and Ukraine on my behalf, since I am not good with that; we had a pre nup, exactly the kind I described, I gave her more than she had bargained for, and she is grateful for it, so prenup helps, not hurts a relationship. What was wrong with my ex wife? Nothing, we were just not made for each other. I have never said a single derogatory word to anyone in my life about her, and I never will.

[topofthekey]

The advise is the same for Donald Trump or Joe Schmoe.

Oh please, Donald needs to fire himself. The dude doesn't have much to protect anymore but debt.

[Diplomacy]

Ambach:

I grew up in Norfolk County. You got a mansion, there is a chance you are living there now.  Hard to say, Milton, one of the ports, and of course none of the ones listed is an option.

You talk like new money, and they would tear you apart in the Old Money circles.  As my Grandfather said, as he was putting me to work in the warehouse the summer before college.

This is how hard the people work, that helped build my fortune.  They get paid what the market bares.  It is not right or fair, life hardly is.  The one thing you will always do is respect and admire the hard work of others.  Think about this summer, every time you want to skip class or not study.  You got a chance, more than a lot of people do.  It is your choice, what decisions you make from it.

I would not use Trump as a relationship mentor.  Attention to details, he is right.  You are missing the most important lesson, once again.  You are not listening to the details, from women that lived where you are looking.

I made everything I got on my own, with advice from great mentors.  My family helped as much as they needed to.  They would never hand me anything, or let me drown.  They will let me fall, but be there to pick me up.  Talk about the lessons learned and go on from there.

As one of my mentors said, I tried what you are thinking.  I would now do it a different way.  It is your choice, I will support you either way.  I go for the different approach.

I am glad that you were generous with your EX wife. 
Scott has not even come close to the line, of bashing his exwife. 

[ScottinCrimea]

ambach, I know you could never possibly comprehend this, but I would rather be in my position than yours any day.

To think that your only friend is an ex-wife and that only because you paid her off.  Really pathetic.

[Mir]

she makes all my travel plans to look for a new wife, she even sends text messages to my GF in Russia and Ukraine on my behalf, since I am not good with that;

Hmmm so your ex is now a mother-match maker? interesting
And why is sending text such a problem with a man of your intelligence?

[LEGAL]

ambach123  This thread is not about prenuptials. Why don't you show some respect or keep quiet.

[ambach123]

Scott, I am not pathetic; I live very good, thak you; you look in the mirror you will see a disgraced man, broke and penniless, with no transportation and no place to live, and worse, the possibility of being hauled of to prison. You wonder that there can be such a person on this earth completely oblivious to reality of life.

You have not learnt your lessons, you never will.

Legal, this guy committed a blunder, is this a rah rah club, or are we here to learn a  lesson too?

I made my point, if you marry without a prenup like the Scott wiseguy did, you have only yourself to blame for the stupidity.

[Blues Fairy]

Ambach if you have any decency in you, please please please shut up. 

[ambach123]

BF this guy repatedly insulted me for the last year on every post I wrote. I pleaded with him that I don't need his advise, I repeatedly ignored him but to no avail.

As it turns out that he is completely clueless in dealing with RW. And if he would have listened to even a word I wrote he would not be in this predicament.

ALL people who are in this pursuit, must read his saga and learn, learn and learn, a we say, " you stupid does you stupid get", a rule in life.

People go to Ukraine and Russia bring back a wife without any consideration of the consequences, that hurst the WM and RW both, there are no winners in this story; people must learn from this man.

[Mir]

ama123
So in your pre-nup you will have it written that if your wife accuses you of DV it will not be accepted/investigated?
Only this way you can avoid going to jail (possibly) and if you think this is possible then you don't have a clue

[ambach123]

Mir since you asked, I  have already told you I did not make my fortune by lottery, I know plenty about contract law, I have dealt with all of my life.

Here is the language:

" Filing of any domestic abuse charges would necessitate the wife to leave the marital residence immediately, have no contact with the husband, and marriage would be terminated per the covenants of this agreement, the wife warranties that she has read this clause specifically and understands it."

You already can guess, what the rest of the agreement says; that she has no interest in ANY property, only her own personal belongings, she has to find a place to live, Boston is not an inexpensive place to live. Perfectly legal.

Not rocket science

[Mir]

 United States, prenuptial agreements are recognized in all fifty states and the District of Columbia. Likewise, in most jurisdictions, five elements are required for a valid prenuptial agreement:

1.agreement must be in writing (oral prenups are always prohibited);
2.must be executed voluntarily;
3.full and/or fair disclosure at the time of execution;
4.the agreement cannot be unconscionable;
5.it must be executed by both parties (not their attorneys) "in the manner required for a deed to be recorded", 6.known as an acknowledgment (law), before a notary public

So if you take clause 4 any part of the agreement that looks to be unfair to either party will make the agreement null and void. So if a wife is beaten by the husband and the agreement says that she has no rights if she accuses her husband of abuse then it will be taken as an unfair agreement by 99.99% of judges and will be invalid.

[ambach123]

Mir, look up the Nevada law, it accepts all prenups.

If she files DV charges, the marriage is broken, the consequences of broken marriages are already outlined and they are the same with or without the DV charges, it merely speeds up the proces. It does not change anything materially. She is got to go with her clothes on her back.

To overturn a written contract is no piece of cake, I should know I have dealt with contract law all of my life.