I met a girl under special circumstances

[acrzybear]

Reductio ad Hitlerum, as expected.

Sure, all of us condemning prostitution are covert Nazis. 

Not true Blue (I am a poet-lol) according to some of the members a few of us are overt nazis  Well gotta go get my jackboots resoled.

Methinks the original poster is either a troll or living in a fantasy world where he can save the poor hooker (I believe someone mentioned pretty woman).  As a person that regularly deals with hookers, prostitutes, strawberries (a term for a woman that will do anything for crack) -and no it's not what you think Jolly Rogers  The usefulness of these "ladies" is that due to the types of people they associate with they have access to information that us law enforcement types do not. So let me clarify a few things that are the norm for these types of individuals

1) They are only out for themselves - they happily give up information in exchange for leniency from law enforcement. They only give up information if they are "jammed" up with charges (usually narcotics of some sort) or if they they think they can get money for the information. In all of my years of doing this I have yet to see one give information just because it was the right thing to do.

2) They all have psychological issues of some sort-the majority of the ones I have dealt with were abused as children or by boyfriends/husbands. The majority also have no skills of any sort and would be unable to get a job anyway because of their criminal records/drug usage.

 Usually when guys try to reform this type of person they (the guys) get taken to the cleaners (emotionally and financially). I did meet one woman in San Francisco that was able to get out of the business somewhat- she found a niche for herself in trying to help these types of women get out of the business and even she said it was like trying to swim upstream against the current.

Now as far as the high end women, they're just smarter and usually don't bring attention to themselves and usually know how to keep quiet about their clients.  

[acrzybear]

Hookers are not my cup of tea because I prefer to snuggle afterwards.  Besides, at my age there needs to be an emotional connection if my equipment is to function.

Your question raises a question in my mind that some others have touched. The term "hooker" features a commercial transaction with payment in "legal tender."   Now if the definition included "payment in kind," then I qualify.  I have paid, paid a lot.

Gator

 Some guys prefer to pay by the hour and others go for the long term lease, and others actually find their pot of gold and keep it for the entirety of their life.

[I/O]

"hooker" features a commercial transaction with payment in "legal tender."

Legal tender in my country includes postage stamps. If I turned up at the local "knock shop" with a bundle of them, I doubt many of the staff would flap the gap.

[Ininiteluck]

Let me get the OP straight on this, see if I got this right?  She comes over here a couple times for a one month stay and works as an escort (hooker) and that is how you met her?  You start seeing her (for free) and she tells you she makes over 28,000EU per month turning tricks.  Now you are thinkin' she could be the one for you?  Well,  I am sure she could support you if those numbers are accurate.

I got a funny feeling you are posting a bunch of BS.   I'm sure you are a very nice guy.  Maybe I'm wrong but this just does not add up.  What in the world does she need you for anyway?  I know, you look younger than you really are and she has fallen deeply in love with you.  C'mon who are you kidding?  

Anyway, if what you say is true and you are half-smart...you should be seeing a shrink for a little guidance and not asking for help on the internet.  If you are thinking of marrying this supposed hooker you need more help than any internet forum can provide.

Sorry for being shady... I don't live in the US but in Scandinavia. Second I think you are making this too complicated. My issue is simple. This girl was at my place, we didn't do anyting, I met her for a drink, she spent the night and the day after we went for a coffee. I found her very cute, nice etc. Of course it might just all be acting... The times she has been here in Sweden she we have gotten together and she has spent a few nights at my place. In the beginning I could cope with the fact that she is a prostitute because I was thinking 'great, I am getting this for free with a really nice looking girl who would normally take money for it...' Then it grew into something else and now it has gotten to me... The visa rules are hard for russian girls coming to my part of Europe. from Oct she can't come here for 6-9 months. I would think that if she is going to be back in Russia for that time she would take every chance she could to make money and not spend approx two weekends per month when she was here. That's a lot of money...

[kievstar]

Making 28,000 euros a month is not that hard for a high end whore.  Sorry Gator the definition whore applies to this girl.  I am a whore myself by definition as I helped Obama's campaign.

An escort worker in Brussels makes 40 -50 Euros a pop in the red light district and an average of 100-200 Euros a pop outside the district.  You can find escorts who charge 1,000 euros an hour and 10,000 euros a week.  Rates are about the same in USA.  I also have met Arabic men who paid top fashion models 30,000 Euros a day (the ones you see on fashion TV).

But this girl who shows up at some old man like frat party is not a high end girl.  High end girls do not just take any clients let alone random poker night clients.  So for this girl to make 28,000 euros a month is either 9 guys a day (30 days X 9 men X 100 Euros = 27,000 euros).  I do not think she is a 270 monthly men type woman either.  Even at 200 Euros I doubt 135 men a month.  She does not sound like a girl who can get the 5,000 Euros a month either.  The number are not adding up unless she is into extreme and we do not need to discuss that on RWD.  But I could see 15,000 Euros easily with some 3 to 5 day clients and a mixture of 600 euro 3 hour parties plus strip club.  She may also work strip clubs which is easy to make 150,000 Euros a year in Europe at 3 days a week.

[Ade]

Making 28,000 euros a month is not that hard for a high end whore.  Sorry Gator the definition whore applies to this girl.  I am a whore myself by definition as I helped Obama's campaign.

An escort worker in Brussels makes 40 -50 Euros a pop in the red light district and an average of 100-200 Euros a pop outside the district.  You can find escorts who charge 1,000 euros an hour and 10,000 euros a week.  Rates are about the same in USA.  I also have met Arabic men who paid top fashion models 30,000 Euros a day (the ones you see on fashion TV).

But this girl who shows up at some old man like frat party is not a high end girl.  High end girls do not just take any clients let alone random poker night clients.  So for this girl to make 28,000 euros a month is either 9 guys a day (30 days X 9 men X 100 Euros = 27,000 euros).  I do not think she is a 270 monthly men type woman either.  Even at 200 Euros I doubt 135 men a month.  She does not sound like a girl who can get the 5,000 Euros a month either.  The number are not adding up unless she is into extreme and we do not need to discuss that on RWD.  But I could see 15,000 Euros easily with some 3 to 5 day clients and a mixture of 600 euro 3 hour parties plus strip club.  She may also work strip clubs which is easy to make 150,000 Euros a year in Europe at 3 days a week.

In Norway I think the going rate for an attractive escort is around 400 to 500 Euros an hour - I guess that is similar in Sweden.

[Ininiteluck]

In Norway I think the going rate for an attractive escort is around 400 to 500 Euros an hour - I guess that is similar in Sweden.

yes, that's about right. 300-400 Euros an hour. For over night it's about 1000 Euros.

[GQBlues]

yes, that's about right. 300-400 Euros an hour. For over night it's about 1000 Euros.

Imagine that. Now if only Iceland can capitalize and legalize prostitution, fishing won't be the only source of  intercourse.

[Aloe]

This discussion reeks of hypocrisy.

Ask yourself this question, and try to be honest with yourself: If i was single, given the opportunity, would i sleep with a woman if i was paid 10 million dollars for that?

I bet vast majority of men would answer yes. Guess what that makes you? So get off your high horses
I'm pretty damn sure many men would do it for WAY less, and LOTS and LOTS of men would do this for a living, if they could.

[Aloe]

Personally i see nothing wrong with stripping, nobody touches you, all you do is undress, and there is nothing shameful in that, it sounds like fun if done in a clean environment. I do not like the idea of a strip club though because it does not strike me as a clean environment, let alone a multiple used by other women pole and floor. As for sleeping with men for money, my answer to the question i wrote above is hell yeah, i would sleep with a guy for 10 mil bucks, if i had a guarantee that he doesnt have aids or any other uncurable deseases. I guess im a whore haha. I wouldnt do it regularily though, just once for tons of money. Does it make me a bad wife? I dont think so. I wouldnt do anything my honey wouldnt approve, and i definitely do not wanna cheat on him even for money

[Aloe]

I may be a whore but im married to a whore We had talked about this before, he said he would sleep with a man for 10 mil bucks, let alone a woman. Haha

[kievstar]

Aloe, have you been in many strip clubs.  There is a lot of touching.  Money will make most people do about anything.  Would you be a hooker at 1,000 euro a night?  Your not going to get 10 million.  Your husband may get 3,000 euros if he is a bottom with a gay man. 

Personally I have posted here before how I dated a very famous porn star who won porn star of the year at the porn version of the academy awards in Vegas. I dated her for 4 years prior to porn business but you could tell she had the natural talent to be good in that business.  I never introduced her to my parents or friends.  I could care less if a man marries a whore and there are men in America who have married full blown 100 usd hour hookers from Kiev in past 2 years.  They maybe even visit RWD sometimes.   

Part of the problem with strippers and hookers at least in the USA is they tend to have had issues with parents or were sexually assaulted when younger.  There is a radio personality in USA named Howard Stern who always has questionable girls on and he still is looking for one that came from a normal family or does not have issues.  But this does not mean they will not make a good wife.  There is a movie called the GFE "girl friend experience" which may help people understand the business better of a high end girl.  It is different than the hourly girls.  I do know some girls in Kiev who meet sex tourists and normal men on Elena Models.  They like the money but want a husband.

[Aloe]

i want 10 mil    and so does my hubby, we are not cheap haha

By the way, to the question above it does not have to be 10 mil, it can be 100 million, 1 billion, would you do it?

[SANDRO43]

i want 10 mil    and so does my hubby, we are not cheap haha

Aloe, if you look like Demi Moore and can find ten Robert Redfords, you've made it .

[SMS60]

Then it grew into something else and now it has gotten to me... 

Chris sakes

If the OP is for real?

This isnt about if porking whores or escorts is moral or right. Its about whats good for the OP.

With the above comment I think he is too for gone.

INT Luck.........  It grew into something else in your mind. I doubt she is thinking the same way.

You have the dreaded disease of she is the only women in the world. Full blown infactuation. The cure is to find other women to date.

[I/O]

it does not have to be 10 mil, it can be 100 million, 1 billion, would you do it?

This whore ain't a 10 mil or 100 mil or bil treat. Claiming to get 28K / month and travelling internationally to do it, she is a long way from top shelf and the big difference between her and your hypothetical is she is doing it over and over and under and under and sideways and sideways and every other which way and every other which way again and again. When ol' mate takes a ride on the bush track he needs to remember to watch for the potholes because there has been a few hundred trucks through the same way..........................

[GoodOlBoy]

......Then it grew into something else and now it has gotten to me...

With the above comment I think he is too for gone.

I agree.

GOB

[GoodOlBoy]

....... there has been a few hundred trucks through the same way..........................

Maybe even more (counting "repeat" customers). 

GOB

[Jooky]

If i was single, given the opportunity, would i sleep with a woman if i was paid 10 million dollars for that?

I'd do it for free.  :evil:

[Aloe]

This whore ain't a 10 mil or 100 mil or bil treat. Claiming to get 28K / month and travelling internationally to do it, she is a long way from top shelf and the big difference between her and your hypothetical is she is doing it over and over and under and under and sideways and sideways and every other which way and every other which way again and again. When ol' mate takes a ride on the bush track he needs to remember to watch for the potholes because there has been a few hundred trucks through the same way..........................

My point was that all the guys here claiming prostitution is this and that and all the sex workers are fallen and ruined for life women, im saying FOR A PROPER PRICE NEARLY ANYONE IS FOR SALE, so their words are hypocritical, because for N amount they would do it themselves

[I/O]

Aloe: Keep your hair (and your trousers) on. I'm yanking your chain. BTW if you want to check out the going rates.................. http://www.vipelegantescort.org/rates.html

[Gator]

After reading these many posts, it is now apparent to me that I don't know anything about sexual prostitution.

[Gator]

I wouldnt do it regularily though, just once for tons of money. Does it make me a bad wife?

A great wife if you gave all of your money to your husband. 

[groovlstk]

My point was that all the guys here claiming prostitution is this and that and all the sex workers are fallen and ruined for life women, im saying FOR A PROPER PRICE NEARLY ANYONE IS FOR SALE, so their words are hypocritical, because for N amount they would do it themselves

There was a survey a decade or so ago in which people were asked if they would kill another human being for $1 million. I forget the % of people who responded YES but it was startlingly high. Does that make that % of the population hypocrites if they condemn murder and violent crime?

I have sympathy for women (and young men) who work as prostitutes, and if pressed I'd admit that legalizing it is probably the best alternative. However, if a friend of mine were asking my opinion about his prospects for a serious relationship with a prostitute - not an ex-prostitute or someone who did it to escape desperate circumstances but one who is working and enjoying the financial benefits - I would do everything in my power to dissuade him short of locking him in a shed out back.

[Gator]

Some of you are criticizing Ininite for his words, "Then it grew into something else and now it has gotten to me..."

Who here controls his heart?  Where do our emotional feelings come from?  Controlling our emotional feelings is like controlling what we dream.  

You may say that all he has to do is wake up (walk away).  Not so easy.  Time, a lot of time, is the only answer to understanding the depth and truth of what he is feeling (and what she is feeling).   These feelings will either dissipate or become confirmed.

Ininite, her travel restrictions make this even more difficult to reconcile.  Can't she come through Finland more frequently?  Can she simply stay with you and not return?

What do your friends say?  Particularly the one who arranged the initial tryst?