Life Changes...Part Deux

[Kuna]

Post a link so that we all will know what you're talking about. I've dated a lot of ladies so it's normal to have lots of endings. I don't end the relationship with an argument calling women bad names so maybe that's strange to you? I also remain friends with some of them so another strange habit of mine?

The previous fiance that decided not to marry you was strange IMHO.  I didn't call you over it at the time but watching your posts over the years,  the infrequent visits you seem to be able to afford,  and the "over-elaboration" told me that you weren't telling the truth.

Billy,  just like in this thread, you spend FAR too much time explaining yourself,  creating the stories, justifying your decisions and professing some sort of mega-power over other people...  I have a little experience in life and it tells me you're full of sh!t.  No offence intended - it's only my observation...  but you're definitely talking out of your bum.

Quote from: Kuna on 14 March 2011, 08:31:17
no one says large age gaps can't work, but I think most here are more concerned about the actions of a middle aged man contacting a girl who was 17 at the time and no matter how it turns out many would acknowledge the potential that this could have been predatory

You ask another poster to read yet you and my other critics failed miserably. Half the ladies I've dated last year were older than I. Mom read my letters to A twice so if there is some predatory instincts, it's in your imagination. You're just having a hard time understanding a young women can actually go for an older man if he's quality. Quality men don't have a hard time understanding that.

Billy,  you're not a man of quality.  You might feel like you are and it's admirable that you can develop such an ego with what you've got to work with. 

Ask any normal person outside of this community if a middle aged man contacting a 17 yr old girl over the Internet is potentially predatory and they will say yes.

You can't see it, and you'll never admit it, because you've spent such a large part of your life recently creating your altered reality in your mind.  You hardly know the girl and being so sure of every answer to every question tells me you've created most of what you "know" in your mind.

Quote from: Kuna on 14 March 2011, 08:31:17
I wOuldnt yet call it a success, a long way tO go before the relationship proves to be happy, fair, balanced and sustainable.

I'm happy everyday. I was happy before I met A and I'm happy now. Being happy is success. If there is something in my marriage that makes me unhappy, I will take corrective actions.

Are you happy? Should I be like you and do you call your marriage successful? If someone read your first 500 posts, they would understand you that you're a single man and happy person based off the way you post. If someone read your last 500 posts, they would understand you're now married and you're always complaining about something or somebody like an old woman. Go and read your crap because 90% of what you've been posting lately is basically crapping on people. More people rather be me than you at this moment so you need to adjust your attitude. A few months ago you complained this forum changed. What is certain is that you changed and it ain't for the better.

[/quote]

When I spoke about being happy in the relationship I wasn't talking about you... I was talking about a happy RELATIONSHIP. 

It's just so telling when you say, "If there is something in my marriage that makes me unhappy, I will take corrective actions" because you haven't worked out that a marriage is between two people.  It's not about YOU.  If something is putting pressure on a marriage both people need to take corrective action.  I know you don't get it...  it's one of the things that makes your claimed superiority so laughable.  it's actually very sad.



If you want to speculate on my marriage being the reason why my first 500 posts differ from my last 500 posts you'll be disappointed to hear it's actually because experience develops understanding.  The more I've seen of some people in here the more I regret being counted among their numbers.  There are many fine members of RWD but the ones that change my perspective are the abusers, the fantasists, the liars and those who are pretending to be something they are not.  I tend to ignore it when I see it but I remain concerned for those who come here with genuine intentions.  I'd like to help them if I can,  and do more so via PM now than in the open forum... 

Hey, it's the internet so we should expect it... I just choose to call out the shite when I see it some times.

[Misha]

It's just so telling when you say, "If there is something in my marriage that makes me unhappy, I will take corrective actions" because you haven't worked out that a marriage is between two people.  It's not about YOU.  If something is putting pressure on a marriage both people need to take corrective action.  I know you don't get it...  it's one of the things that makes your claimed superiority so laughable.  it's actually very sad.

I agree. Marriage must be a partnership of equals IMHO. However, Billy does want to be the all-knowing "teacher" and from what I understand reading the occasional posts (who really has the time to read carefully ALL that Billy writes?) is that Billy is obsessed with the idea that he is to be the all-knowing husband who makes all the decisions and who must not be presumably questioned as his authority will be absolute. The problem, as I see it, is that a 17-year-old, even if she is naive and inexperienced in life will quickly mature and in a few years (or less) will refuse to be the eternal pupil bowing down to Billy's all-knowing authority and tutelage....

[Lily]

  The problem, as I see it, is that a 17-year-old, even if she is naive and inexperienced in life will quickly mature and in a few years (or less) will refuse to be the eternal pupil bowing down to Billy's all-knowing authority and tutelage....

Misha,

Reasonable people tend to be all 'eternal pupils' irrespectively of their age . They only may chose different teachers at various stages of their lives.

[Misha]

Misha,

Reasonable people tend to be all 'eternal pupils' irrespectively of their age . They only may chose different teachers at various stages of their lives.

So are you saying that in this case the "pupil" may be seeking substitute "teachers" at later stages 

[Faux Pas]

Misha,

Reasonable people tend to be all 'eternal pupils' irrespectively of their age . They only may chose different teachers at various stages of their lives.

Keyword that.

[Misha]

Reasonable people tend to be all 'eternal pupils' irrespectively of their age

One additional comment. BillyB's belief, based on what I have read, is that he knows everything worth knowing, has nothing to learn and everything to teach to his future wife. Would this not mean, therefore, that his stance makes him by definition not reasonable 

[SMS60]

I like the reactions to Billy's story. It seems to make some members curl up in a ball and cringe then lash out. Interesting.

Billy comes across as a very confident man. This makes some people uncomfortable. They label it as arrogance or know it all type behaviour. I would say if things go wrong Billy will not blame no one but himself. A common trait in confident people. They will face the consequences of their actions and not point fingers.

I would say if you met Billy in person he would not come across as a know it all or arrogant. I think the internet makes its seem that way.

[I/O]

Billy comes across as a very confident man.

Different strokes I guess. Our hero presents a lot of different personas from time to time and some of them may even reflect reality but confident isn't one I've noticed.

[Kuna]

I like the reactions to Billy's story. It seems to make some members curl up in a ball and cringe then lash out. Interesting.

Billy comes across as a very confident man. This makes some people uncomfortable. They label it as arrogance or know it all type behaviour. I would say if things go wrong Billy will not blame no one but himself. A common trait in confident people. They will face the consequences of their actions and not point fingers.

I would say if you met Billy in person he would not come across as a know it all or arrogant. I think the internet makes its seem that way.

Perhaps Billy would be kind enough to complete this questionnaire http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp and let us know what his type is...  then at least some of us could see what drives him deep down rather than just than the words and protestations we see in here.

There is no good or bad MBTI, and personalities evolve,  but there are core personality attribute that are there no matter what you try to do about them.

Billy is a troubled man I think,  over compensating for his weaknesses by the types of pots we see in here.

[Lily]

So are you saying that in this case the "pupil" may be seeking substitute "teachers" at later stages 

I did not said this. No particular case meant.

[Faux Pas]

I like the reactions to Billy's story. It seems to make some members curl up in a ball and cringe then lash out. Interesting.

Funny, I'm not seeing that at all. I'm seeing Billy verbally masturbating all over his thread, some believing it and some not

Billy comes across as a very confident man.

A legend in his own mind

This makes some people uncomfortable. They label it as arrogance or know it all type behaviour. I would say if things go wrong Billy will not blame no one but himself. A common trait in confident people. They will face the consequences of their actions and not point fingers.

I don't know that it makes anyone uncomfortable. It is what it is and Billy is what he is. If you believe half of what he states you believe him to be clairvoyant, primo studmuffin with the unique ability of mind control and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. I see it as bravado and mindless dribble. He's full of himself and he's fooling himself. I think he actually believes it all. There's plenty of 17 year old beautiful, educated girls in the U.S.. Why isn't he trying out his mind control and studliness on them? I think he's in for a huge awakening  and then, it will be too late. It's called reality.

I would say if you met Billy in person he would not come across as a know it all or arrogant. I think the internet makes its seem that way.

I think you might be right. I've seen the internet make many fantasize vocally only to find out it's an alter ego

[erudite]

I really think that he and Charlie Sheen would be good friends. 

[Kuna]

I really think that he and Charlie Sheen would be good friends. 

Oh, that's low!  That is very unfair to Charlie!   

[BillyB]

FYI, $150 per month for as base salary for a nurse in most clinics here in Ukraine would be about par for the course--better than some, in fact.

They typically receive some cash from patients as well, so the gross income is somewhat higher in most cases.

In some areas, a young doctor starts about that same level by the way.

Mom didn't take the job. It's far outside the city and would cost her $25 a month in traveling expenses and over 2 hours everyday traveling time.

I'm planning on posting my next report for my trip to see Olga this May! Keep an eye out for it.

I haven't read too many trip reports lately but I'll keep an eye out for yours Hammer.


Why Why WHY?

Why do some men get their panties all bunched up when an Alpha male walks in the room? The RW aren't affected by what I say and some RW are trying to help me figure out A so I don't make a mistake. Yes, they actually care about me. I love you ladies more and more everyday! I'm talking about the real ladies of course, not the pantie wearing men here.

I'm learning a lot from people's reactions here. I hope the newbies are too. A man freaking out over another man's words is not a desirable trait women like. I didn't start this fight but I'm going to continue this thread to the end even if I got to get my other boot stinky.

If you want to speculate on my marriage being the reason why my first 500 posts differ from my last 500 posts you'll be disappointed to hear it's actually because experience develops understanding.  The more I've seen of some people in here the more I regret being counted among their numbers.  There are many fine members of RWD but the ones that change my perspective are the abusers, the fantasists, the liars and those who are pretending to be something they are not.  I tend to ignore it when I see it but I remain concerned for those who come here with genuine intentions.  I'd like to help them if I can,  and do more so via PM now than in the open forum...  

Kuna, we all read the forum and react much differently than you. You crap on people 90% of the time. You've become an unpleasant person to be around.

Let me ask you and any other guy that this applies too, especially those who are complaining in this thread over and over. Why do you guys complain so much? At work you complain to your coworkers about your job and boss. At home you complain to your woman about your coworkers, job and boss. You always have something or someone to complain about non stop. Get over it.

I remember overhearing a couple of older ladies talking about they didn't care if their husbands died. I don't blame them. I know their husbands and all they do is complain. I couldn't live with them. Here's some advice. Ignore or solve the issues that are bugging you and shut up.

Marriage must be a partnership of equals IMHO. However, Billy does want to be the all-knowing "teacher" and from what I understand reading the occasional posts (who really has the time to read carefully ALL that Billy writes?) is that Billy is obsessed with the idea that he is to be the all-knowing husband who makes all the decisions and who must not be presumably questioned as his authority will be absolute.

We went over this earlier in the thread Misha and you still don't get it. Women tend to behave in different ways depending on the man she's with. I believe a man is largely responsible how his lady acts because how you are as a man will determine how a women will act towards you.

Man #1 dates a RW and he says she's a biatch and a cold fish.

Man #2 dates the same RW and he concludes she wants a relationship of equals and wants him to wash dishes and laundry half the time for her to want to enter into a relationship with him.

Man #3 dates the same RW and concludes that she has the hots for him since she admires his every word, and wants to cook and wash his clothes 100% of the time. She is totally and unconditionally in love with him.

Man #1 probably turns most women off and he would only attract insincere women as long as he's putting out the money.

Man #2 is average and woman will probably feel she is just as smart as he is and she is qualified to make half or most of the decision making in a relationship because she can't trust her man in being right most of the time.

Man #3 is probably intelligent, wise, kind, and hard working and the RW understands he will take good care of her, she does not need to babysit him, and she will take good care of him. He is a highly desirable man that most women want and there is a lot of competition for him so she will do what it takes to please him and make herself desirable too.

When I was in Ukraine a few times, the apartment manager said it was his business to get into his customers heads to better understand their needs. I've seen some printouts of where to find hookers in Ukraine lying around in the apartment so I understand what kind of customers he gets too. After talking to me a bit, he concluded I'm one of the best men he's met. As we were standing on the balcony talking one day he looks down at the sidewalk along Khreshatic and said “out of 1000 horny women that pass by, I'd say 400 would want a man like you” I wasn't surprised by what he said because I know my worth.

Misha, I hope someday you and other men get the reactions from ladies I've been getting. Only then you'll probably understand and not feel threatened about what I've been writing.

I like the reactions to Billy's story. It seems to make some members curl up in a ball and cringe then lash out. Interesting.

I like the reactions to your post just by mentioning my name that made people curl up in a ball and cringe then lash out. Interesting.

I would say if things go wrong Billy will not blame no one but himself.

Exactly. I've encountered a lot of ladies and I never bad mouth any or blame them for problems in my life. I don't yell at them or call them names, even if we are going separate ways.

I would say if you met Billy in person he would not come across as a know it all or arrogant.

I'm a very likable person in real life. That is one reason I get results with ladies. Another reason I get results is because I don't talk about myself.

Our hero presents a lot of different personas from time to time and some of them may even reflect reality but confident isn't one I've noticed.
 

AJ, where are you? You still think people aren't wound up after reading this thread? Out of thousands of posts, I/O doesn't recognized I have confidence out of any of my posts. He's either on crack cocaine or in massive denial. He's not the only one in denial. How about instead of you guys putting me down, lay out your program to catch the ladies. I won't hold it against you if you talk about yourself. I'm too happy with myself to get pissed at you.

I really think that he and Charlie Sheen would be good friends.  

Are you on crack cocaine or in massive denial too? Charlie drinks and does drugs. He goes out with hookers. I'm clean and catch respectable women. The women I roll with are much higher class than what Charlie could buy.

Why did you come back into this thread? No words of wisdom but maybe you just wanted to jump on the latest bandwagon to bash BillyB. Better do it on the bandwagon because there's safety in numbers.

I have a confession to make since we're talking Charlie Sheen. Part of the title in this thread I took from one of his movies since it was on my mind when I started this. Hot Shots Part Deux

[LiveFromUkraine]

Another reason I get results is because I don't talk about myself.

After talking to me a bit, he concluded I'm one of the best men he's met. As we were standing on the balcony talking one day he looks down at the sidewalk along Khreshatic and said “out of 1000 horny women that pass by, I'd say 400 would want a man like you” I wasn't surprised by what he said because I know my worth.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIETlxquzY[/youtube]

 

[dbneeley]

BillyB--a few small observations:

1. A confident man has no need of always claiming to be an "alpha male". As a self-referential thing, this is usually restricted to the "wanna bes" and dreamers. To a genuine man, such things are totally unnecessary--they simply are as they are, and they let others figure that out.

2. It is easy for the pretenders to confuse ego and the resulting braggadocio with confidence. The genuine "alpha male" has no need or time for either.

3. It seems strange that for such an experienced gentleman, you have had trouble attracting a wholesome, self confident, and mature lady as a partner. Instead, you apparently had to find someone with insufficient life experience to see through all the b.s. If you're lucky, it may actually work for a few years. Otherwise, you're in for a rather bumpy ride.

4. You claim that in real life, you don't talk about yourself much. It would be very good if you followed that practice online, at least regarding your various claims of superiority. As Mark Twain said "Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often."

David

[Misha]

Misha, I hope someday you and other men get the reactions from ladies I've been getting. Only then you'll probably understand and not feel threatened about what I've been writing.

Ummm, it seems to me and the "other men" are the ones who are actually married and have been married for years  Why should we be threatened?

[erudite]

Are you on crack cocaine or in massive denial too? Charlie drinks and does drugs. He goes out with hookers. I'm clean and catch respectable women. The women I roll with are much higher class than what Charlie could buy.

Why did you come back into this thread? No words of wisdom but maybe you just wanted to jump on the latest bandwagon to bash BillyB. Better do it on the bandwagon because there's safety in numbers.

I have a confession to make since we're talking Charlie Sheen. Part of the title in this thread I took from one of his movies since it was on my mind when I started this. Hot Shots Part Deux

Actually I posted this observation about you and Charlie because you are both quite THE ladies man, have a high self esteem and personal opinion of yourselves, can justify everything you do or say, like to talk about yourself, probably about the same age and of course you both manage to............well you know what I mean. I'm not bashing you BB, I am not bashing Charlie Sheen. I just think other than perhaps the drugs, alcohol abuse, proclivity to associate with hookers and porn queens, you have a lot in common as manly men and you are both entertaining.

[Ade]

Another reason I get results is because I don't talk about myself.

Given what you've revealed about yourself in this thread, I'd say that it's probably the main reason why you've got any of the "results" that you have; women with any self esteem at all would run a mile after finding out what's churning around in that head of yours Billy. Is that why you're really still single Billy, because as soon as the ladies in question find out what's in that mind of yours they do run a mile?

[erudite]

Given what you've revealed about yourself in this thread, I'd say that it's probably the main reason why you've got any of the "results" that you have; women with any self esteem at all would run a mile after finding out what's churning around in that head of yours Billy. Is that why you're really still single Billy, because as soon as the ladies in question find out what's in that mind of yours they do run a mile?

HOW HILLARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRULY and shedding tears as I do.

[Kuna]

Why do some men get their panties all bunched up when an Alpha male walks in the room?

Billy,  you are far from an Alpha male...  you're an alfalfa male!

Real alfa males have men fall in line...  when pretenders enter the room they are ridiculed just like you are here.

I'm learning a lot from people's reactions here. I hope the newbies are too. A man freaking out over another man's words is not a desirable trait women like. I didn't start this fight but I'm going to continue this thread to the end even if I got to get my other boot stinky.

You've learnt nothing... and you're incapable of clear thought.  You're far too self obsessed to understand how people are trying to help you.

Funny you should mention newbies... it's important for them to realise your fantasies are not to be followed as the model for a decent man finding an equal partner.

On top of that newbies come here for reliable information and a bit of support.  Reading your self-absorbed drivel will get them into a world of pain.

Let me ask you and any other guy that this applies too, especially those who are complaining in this thread over and over. Why do you guys complain so much? At work you complain to your coworkers about your job and boss. At home you complain to your woman about your coworkers, job and boss. You always have something or someone to complain about non stop. Get over it.

Billy, it's not complaining...  it's letting future newbies know what experienced men think of you.

[I/O]

Out of thousands of posts, I/O doesn't recognized I have confidence out of any of my posts.

Correct. Confidence, real confidence that is, stands out. Never seen it in any of your posts but as I said before, different strokes....................

[Lily]

Billy and participants, how about ending a discussion about Billy's personality from this or that point of view? At the end of day, it starts to became annoying. 

I would like to read more about the process of a K visa for A, and any A's actions toward becoming Mrs. B.
Billy, how about sharing things about this?

[Daveman]

Billy and participants, how about ending a discussion about Billy's personality from this or that point of view? At the end of day, it starts to became annoying. 

I would like to read more about the process of a K visa for A, and any A's actions toward becoming Mrs. B.
Billy, how about sharing things about this?

I absolutely agree with this.  That subtopic has been stated, debated, reiterated, ad nauseated [sic] ... Let's see what comes next in his adventure with A.

[JR]

Billy and participants, how about ending a discussion about Billy's personality from this or that point of view? At the end of day, it starts to became annoying. 

I would like to read more about the process of a K visa for A, and any A's actions toward becoming Mrs. B.
Billy, how about sharing things about this?

Sounds like a good title for a new thread............))))))