Just another example of why I am no longer interested in AW ...

[Mishenka]

I wonder why aren't they reporting? Isn't that foolish? As far as i understand women in the US are so much more 'protected' than in Russia.

Anastasiya, please forgive my typo, from the Dr. Phill show post, it should read that 40% of all American women are NOW reporting abuse in the home.  which backs up some of my previous posts that others have argued against as not factual.  It now actually is reported as fact. True in some states as in California, women are better protected.

Misha

[jj]

KenC - I think you are right on about the basic differences between RW and AW.   RW  are not afraid to be feminine and like being treated as a woman.  The more I give in the relationship ,  she gives even more.  With AW the more I gave in relationship , then it was expected, but seldom returned and became mundane.   I think RW understand a man's needs better also.  They want to see their man happy.  AW often put that on the back burner.   I realize that there are alot of men who do not give much in a relationship, but I am talking about those that do try, and want something back.  My appreciation of RW that I have known and now of course, my wife,  has opened a new world in a loving relationship .  My only regret is that I did not find it sooner in life. -jj

[Gator]

KenC,

Splendid explanation of the virtues of RW, and reason enough to visit the FSU and learn more.  These are positive reasons to consider meeting RW, as oppose to the negative reasons such as AW are too fat.  Serebro explained why RW appreciate positive reasons and are turned off by negative reasons.  Perhaps some men chasing FSUW will learn from your post and Serebro's.

[Simoni]

Splendid explanation of the virtues of RW, and reason enough to visit the FSU and learn more.  These are positive reasons to consider meeting RW, as oppose to the negative reasons such as AW are too fat.  Serebro explained why RW appreciate positive reasons and are turned off by negative reasons.  Perhaps some men chasing FSUW will learn from your post and Serebro's.

Totally correct.  For you guys in the search, Marina appreciated me because I was positive.  She shares that before meeting me, whenever she met a negative man who trashed american women, she ran from them as fast as possible. Cuz if you are negative about american women, you may be about FSU women, too.

[groovlstk]

This axe cuts both ways, though.

How many of you have asked RW why they want to date a foreign guy and heard the litany of how RM drink too much, are unfaithful, beat their wives, and generally don't make good husbands?

[AnastassiaAsh]

This axe cuts both ways, though.

How many of you have asked RW why they want to date a foreign guy and heard the litany of how RM drink too much, are unfaithful, beat their wives, and generally don't make good husbands?

Bingo!

If you ask me: I didn't WANT or CHOOSE to see what i saw in Moscow, but everywhere i looked there were drunkards, criminals and you name it. Horrible, absolutely horrible. This is not only among 'simple working' people, but among university graduates, educated and refined men. I used to spend time in different circles and the situation was exactly the same everywhere. So my experience is like that.

Here in the US I see more homeless people downtown big cities, but other than that nothing really. Everywhere i lived and traveled I didn't see any bad behavior and everything else that goes with it. This is just a different culture and mentality. If we talk bad extremes of the US and Russia, I will always choose obsession with money, than obsession with destroying yourself physically and in any other way and violating women in any way possible. And even if we compare these extremes, the first one in the US is a tiny one in comparison to the second one in Russia. I don't think things changed for the better in that regard in Russia during my absence of 7 years. More over it became worse i think, as far as i looked last month....

Also ''obsession with money' can be understood differently too. Bible doesn't say anything bad about money or wanting to be rich, other than your priorities should be in line. More over those who are faithful He blesses with great job and good salary. Those who show wisdom in small amount of money will always be given more and more. God in no way wants us to be poor but live in abundance. This is the motto of all the Christian Americans who are trying to implement this in their lives working hard every single day. This is admirable. And I see this kind of style more often than not. Of course obsession with money in a bad sense exists in the US but in my opinion much rarely than what i said above.

[William3rd]

You hear that tale a lot from the discrete minority of RW that are searching overseas for foreign husbands. From the majority that marry or remain married in their own country, we dont hear anything at all.

From the RW that I spoke to/dated over the years, I heard many anecdotal tales but heard very little first-hand accounts of anything other than alcoholism and some adultery.

[Mir]

This is the motto of all the Christian Americans who are trying to implement this in their lives working hard every single day. This is admirable. And I see this kind of style more often than not. Of course obsession with money in a bad sense exists in the US but in my opinion much rarely than what i said above.

Interetingly the making of money is presented as a religious duty in all the great religions of the world (Christianity, Islam and Judaism), perhaps to reduce the human guilt about becoming rich?
All systems that look down on becoming rich are secular.

[AnastassiaAsh]

Interetingly the making of money is presented as a religious duty in all the great religions of the world (Christianity, Islam and Judaism), perhaps to reduce the human guilt about becoming rich?
All systems that look down on becoming rich are secular.

I don't know about you, Mir, but i do not have any guilt at all. I can't say i am rich but i am not poor either. My situation is of course better now than it was 5 or 10 years ago. Some people may have guilt, that is because they know they did something wrong. I know I didn't do anything wrong so my conscience is clear. 

[ScottinCrimea]

I wrote a post about a year ago that described my view of one very important way in which RW differ from AW and my experience during this time has only strengthened this belief.  Those of you who were around then, forgive me the repetition but I thought it is something that the newbies should see.

"One thing you have to realize is that RW are typically the only child in their family and the only grandchild of four very doting grandparents, so they are accustomed to being put on a pedestal and treated like little princesses.  But they also have the full financial support and encouragement to succeed.  So to be successful with a RW, all you have to do is the same.  Treat her like a princess and give her your full support.  Unfortunately, I found with AW that if you treat them this way their response is to believe that they are the queen and you are the servant.  With RW, the ressponse is very different.  They give back in kind and more.  This is their expectation of how a man should treat them and they respond with their idea of how a woman should treat a man, which in my experience is wonderful."

[KenC]

Scott,
Man, did you nail that one!!  In 9 years of knowing Lena, you just explained something I had never realized.  Thank you.
KenC

[Mir]

Guilt can have many forms and one does not have to do something wrong to have it.
It is well known that in accidents where many people including loved ones die the surviving members/member at times develop feelings of guilt. In the same way after the death of a young child the parents feel guilt, specially if one of them is a doctor (I am seeing this with a friend who's daughter aged 7 died recently). These people have not done anything wrong to feel this way.
I am sure this can be disputed, but arguably one can only get rich at the expense of others. Even if we discard this notion, still to have a lot in a world where many starve could cause some such feelings.
Can this be a burden on one's conscience? That depends, for some sensitive souls it can and they might renounce their fortune (rarely) or much more likely develop some psychological problems.
Yes to be very rich is great but it is not always a bed of roses (thankfully)

[Simoni]

Scott,
Man, did you nail that one!!  In 9 years of knowing Lena, you just explained something I had never realized.  Thank you.
KenC

Same here. I just discovered it sooner! LOL

Thanks, Scott!

[HiTech]

I used to subscribe to match.com, I still get emails from them every day.
Here is a sample of what I could choose from in DFW area.

[Misha]

Maybe I am missing something, but I don't understand what you point is with showing us the matches available through match.com.

[ScottinCrimea]

HiTech,  They are listed as matching your wants and needs 88%.  But oh that other 12%!!   

[mspanky]

 HiTech,

 I think most American women who have to go to Match.com are not usually the cream of the cropp to begin with. To be fair I would like to ask Lily and other RW who are using online dating services to decribe their experiences. Are there an abundance of good looking men,not divorced no  kids and paying child support payments, Successful,intellectual men on those sites?  I very much doubt it.

  match.com does have a lot of ugly women. But datingfaces.com has a lot of good looking women from all over the country. There may not be many in Texas, but the U.S. is BIG!

[HiTech]

mspanky: By that logic where do women from the FSU and WM fall into the crop circle? And you are correct they are not the cream because the cream are married.

 

[Misha]

think most American women who have to go to Match.com are not usually the cream of the cropp to begin with.

Well, many AW on Match.com would likely say the same thing about AM seeking RW 

[thedub]

One thing you have to realize is that RW are typically the only child in their family and the only grandchild of four very doting grandparents, so they are accustomed to being put on a pedestal and treated like little princesses.  But they also have the full financial support and encouragement to succeed.

Is this true?

I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I honestly just didn't realize that.

KenC, Scott, & others... Is this more true of the RW who are looking for AM? What I mean is, Are the RW who are on agency lists, international dating sites, and who are actively looking for a foregin husband - are they likely to be only daughters?

And BTW, KenC, I've gotta totally disagree with you about something you posted way back in this thread. You said Midwest women are the most obese in the country. I was born and lived in the midwest until I turned 30; now I've been in Mississippi and Alabama for 5 years. The most obese people in the nation (men and women) are definitely down here in the South.

[KenC]

thedub,
I cannot speak for the ladies listed on the agency sites or even "most" of the RW, but Scott described my wife to a "T."  It is a weird combination of being spoiled without being a spoiled beotch.  She wants to be treated special, but also treats me special too.

There are statistics that list the Midwest as the area that is the most overweight.  As I said before, Columbus, OH won the title for the most overweight city in the last report I saw.  Maybe you should just stay away from the Walmarts down there as it may be tilting your sampling too much!
KenC

[thedub]

Maybe you should just stay away from the Walmarts down there as it may be tilting your sampling too much!

Yes, the Wal-Marts have some hefty ones. But that's nothing like all the BBQ joints and buffets down here. The best is that even the Chinese buffets all have crawfish now.

Reading all these boards has made me hungry... I've gotta go get all-u-can-eat myself! 

[BillyB]

I've been in Mississippi and Alabama for 5 years. The most obese people in the nation (men and women) are definitely down here in the South.

I just posted this link a month ago that listed Mississippi the fattest and Alabama, #2. Colorado has the leanest people.

http://calorielab.com/news/2006/08/12/fattest-states-2006/

[KenC]

I stand corrected,
KenC

[Admin]

I just posted this link a month ago that listed Mississippi the fattest and Alabama, #2. Colorado has the leanest people.

http://calorielab.com/news/2006/08/12/fattest-states-2006/

It is relative. Colorado may be the leanest - but that is among an ever-fattening trend nationwide.

Having said that - there really are quite a few nicely proportioned women here in Colorado. Certainly some heffers, as everywhere - but when we go out, we always see some ladies (men, too) who take good care of themselves, at all ages.

- Dan