Almost-total newbie here ...

[Sculpto]

If you read what I wrote above, it's next to IMPOSSIBLE to do many simple things -- much less take trips ...

you are writing your own script.

[veritas]

you are writing your own script.

Dude, you've said this before, but I'm NOT consciously "writing the script" of these physical symptoms ...
They are REAL -- wherever it is that they're coming from -- and other people DO notice them, BIG-TIME ...

I'd thought they might be related to my coming off of some sedating psych meds -- that was my hope --
but I'm almost off them now, and this is STILL not getting better ... If you actually SAW me, you'd believe ...

My psychiatrist doesn't know what to make of all this, either ... He too is at a loss ...

[Gator]

Olga_Mouse, thanks, some humor would help this thread.

Here the anti-fur campaign has affected mainly club-going tweenies from big cities, I think - but not the majority of female population.

In conducting our poll, may we count you as as fully furred? Otherwise, where would you stop with the epilation?

[JohnDearGreen]

Folks, I've been getting progressively more "sick" the last few days --
weak, shaky, dizzy, sweaty, etc. -- and I suspect it has a lot to do
with both my amount of time spent posting and the nature of my posts ...
It's actually been getting ever-harder for me to use the mouse/keyboard ...
It might also be related to my (very-active) depression and its medications ...

The symptoms you described sound like side effects of the psych medication.  Maybe change medication or drop it.   Also I would do some serious google searches on your symptoms.   Most likely all the doc's do is check their medical encylopedia and search database anyway.   You might find something they missed.

[Sculpto]

Dude, you've said this before, but I'm NOT consciously "writing the script" of these physical symptoms ...
They are REAL -- wherever it is that they're coming from -- and other people DO notice them, BIG-TIME ...

I'd thought they might be related to my coming off of some sedating psych meds -- that was my hope --
but I'm almost off them now, and this is STILL not getting better ... If you actually SAW me, you'd believe ...

Kevin I don't deny that.. all I am saying is the ONLY thing we are hearing from you is what you CAN NOT do.  Dude.. this is gonna sound harsh.. but you have it easy in this world.. you have or had a pocket full of money.. and plenty of food and apparently good medical care..

People in Congo or Haiti don't have time to be depressed..

so.. really.. you need to make some choices and fight like a man because if you don't you are quitting the game right at your prime.

my advice would be.. get off the meds.. eat a healthy diet and get a ton of exercise and keep yourself busy with something creative and or productive every damn minute of every damn day... and oh.. stop feeling so damn guilty and sorry for yourself.  Everything you need to be happy is right in front of you.  Just have to reach out and get it.  The ONLY thing stopping you is you.

There really isn't anything else t say about it Kevin.  I am not going to keep repeating myself.  I have said everything there is to say and I think everyone else has also Kevin.  Its really up to you to make some choices and act on them.. that is if you really want to have a relatively normal life.  Its up to you.  so.. unless you have something new.. over and out my friend.  

[facetrock]

  Jesus Christ Kevin is there anything else wrong with you!!!

[Gator]

So Gator,

Do you still think dating (RW OR AW) should be ANYWHERE near the top of Kevin's list of priorities? Seriously 

It seems like women (other than friends) should off his list, likely indefinitely. Sorry

Well, not this evening.     In message #194 (and other times before) I said "NO" regarding RW.  I say "YES" to AW because my depressed ex-wife was able to find someone who made her happy and was a good caregiver.  Why couldn't Kevin find the same?

Not all AW dating is wham bam, thank you mam'.  I agree that Kevin doesn't need sex.  He first needs tender care.  Then maybe love and eventually healthy, fulfilling sex will follow.

For sure, baby steps.  And he shouldn't expect a large number of AW "candidates"  who want to give tender care.

Anyway, this is something he has to decide with the help of those who know him best.  Something made him look at the scantily clad beauties from the scam agency he mentioned in this thread's opening post.  His loins may not be on fire, yet there are embers.

What do you suggest specifically?  And don't say another 4 years.

 

[veritas]

The symptoms you described sound like side effects of the psych medication.  Maybe change medication or drop it.   Also I would do some serious google searches on your symptoms.   Most likely all the doc's do is check their medical encylopedia and search database anyway.   You might find something they missed.

Thanks, JDG ... I've also been "through the mill" with all these psych meds, too, since 2006 --
changing countless times ... Now they're trying to get me back to the regimen that seemed
to work so well for me from 2000-2006 -- and I agree with that plan ... But it's STILL largely
"guesswork and guinea pigs", as you know ...

Kevin

[veritas]

Kevin I don't deny that.. all I am saying is the ONLY thing we are hearing from you is what you CAN NOT do.  Dude.. this is gonna sound harsh.. but you have it easy in this world.. you have or had a pocket full of money.. and plenty of food and apparently good medical care..

People in Congo or Haiti don't have time to be depressed..

so.. really.. you need to make some choices and fight like a man because if you don't you are quitting the game right at your prime.

my advice would be.. get off the meds.. eat a healthy diet and get a ton of exercise and keep yourself busy with something creative and or productive every damn minute of every damn day... and oh.. stop feeling so damn guilty and sorry for yourself.  Everything you need to be happy is right in front of you.  Just have to reach out and get it.  The ONLY thing stopping you is you.

There really isn't anything else t say about it Kevin.  I am not going to keep repeating myself.  I have said everything there is to say and I think everyone else has also Kevin.  Its really up to you to make some choices and act on them.. that is if you really want to have a relatively normal life.  Its up to you.  so.. unless you have something new.. over and out my friend.  

Dude, I don't think you understand the need for, and the benefit of, psychiatric meds ...

They were the ONLY thing that "opened up my world" in 2000, after years in the darkness ...
It was like night and day!  Would you tell a bipolar patient to stop taking Lithium or Seroquel?
Would you have told my father to stop taking insulin?

Educate yourself, man ...

Kevin

[veritas]

Would you tell a schizophrenic patient to "just get over it"?  You need to LEARN, Sculpto ...

Kevin

P.S.  I greatly respect almost all of your advice, but you are WAY deficient on THIS topic ...

[Sculpto]

Would you tell a schizophrenic patient to "just get over it"?  You need to LEARN, Sculpto ...

Kevin

are you schizophrenic?

[pitbull]

What do you suggest specifically?  And don't say another 4 years.

 

Gator, not every person should be in a relationship, period. I believe Kevin's revealed history (his marriage included) suggests too much damage for him to be able to maintain a healthy relationship with a woman.

It's like asking "what would you suggest for a paraplegic who wants to run a marathon. Not gonna happen.

[veritas]

are you schizophrenic?

No, but "clinically depressed" and "bipolar" fall into the very same categories ...

[veritas]

I was on psych meds VERY SUCCESSFULLY from 2000-2006 ... And I CAN be once again!!

Kevin

[Sculpto]

the meds are just a security blanket Kevin.  It is a luxury to be clinically depressed and bi-polar.  Nothing a day of really hard labor can't cure. 

[Gator]

Now they're trying to get me back to the regimen that seemed
to work so well for me from 2000-2006

Pharmacology is a very complicated science.  It would be spendid if you could rid yourself of them. Nevertheless, some disorders will require a maintenance level perhaps forever or until something better is developed.

Kevin, you are correct, the last thing a depressed person needs to hear is "Snap out of it."  They can't.  I learned that.  However, having said that, you shoud do your best not to become too dependent.  Therapy, therapy, therapy.  Surround yourself with friends.  Find new activities that interest you.

[veritas]

Gator, not every person should be in a relationship, period. I believe Kevin's revealed history (his marriage included) suggests too much damage for him to be able to maintain a healthy relationship with a woman.

It's like asking "what would you suggest for a paraplegic who wants to run a marathon. Not gonna happen.

How about "with the right treatment", pitbull?  Surely you don't think it's HOPELESS ...

[Gator]

the meds are just a security blanket Kevin.  It is a luxury to be clinically depressed and bi-polar.  Nothing a day of really hard labor can't cure. 

That comment reveals a lot of ignorance about the subject.

[veritas]

the meds are just a security blanket Kevin.  It is a luxury to be clinically depressed and bi-polar.  Nothing a day of really hard labor can't cure. 

You are just SO, SO wrong, Sculpto ...

[veritas]

Pharmacology is a very complicated science.  It would be spendid if you could rid yourself of them. Nevertheless, some disorders will require a maintenance level perhaps forever or until something better is developed.

Kevin, you are correct, the last thing a depressed person needs to hear is "Snap out of it."  They can't.  I learned that.  However, having said that, you shoud do your best not to become too dependent.  Therapy, therapy, therapy.  Surround yourself with friends.  Find new activities that interest you.

Agree with everything you've written there, Gator ...

[Gator]

Gator, not every person should be in a relationship, period. I believe Kevin's revealed history (his marriage included) suggests too much damage for him to be able to maintain a healthy relationship with a woman.

It's like asking "what would you suggest for a paraplegic who wants to run a marathon. Not gonna happen.

Kevin, I told you early in this thread that RW do not understand the issue and have little emapthy.  Pitbull is educated, intelligent and resides in the West.  Yet, she harbors this sentiment.   Now, what do you think the average RW still in the FSU will feel.

Yes, they know depression.  From going through periods with insufficient money to feed the family.  From having little stability.  They don't have time to be depressed.  A "day of really hard labor" is their solution. They simply do not understand brain chemistry, seritonin uptake, etc.  It seems many Americans are also the same.

[veritas]

Gator -- I wasn't really referring to RW ... I meant relationships in GENERAL (e.g., AW) ...

Let me say something here ... In 1999, Christina was begging me to try therapy, meds, ANYTHING ...
But I would have NOTHING TO DO WITH MEDS -- "just a crutch" ... I absolutely REFUSED the notion ...

And when my therapist in April 2000 suggested a psychiatrist, I was VERY reticent and LEERY of meds ...

But then one morning in November, walking down my driveway, my eyes were OPENED -- LIFE WAS GOOD!!!

And THAT'S when I FINALLY became a "believer" ...

[pitbull]

Kevin, I told you early in this thread that RW do not understand the issue and have little emapthy.  Pitbull is educated, intelligent and resides in the West.  Yet, she harbors this sentiment.   Now, what do you think the average RW still in the FSU will feel.

Yes, they know depression.  From going through periods with insufficient money to feed the family.  From having little stability.  They don't have time to be depressed.  A "day of really hard labor" is their solution. They simply do not understand brain chemistry, seritonin uptake, etc.  It seems many Americans are also the same.

Gator,

Please stop making assumptions about my understanding of clinical depression and my empathic abilities. I know quite a lot about the issue. These sweeping generalizations of "what RW are like" are just silly.

And frankly I suspect depression is only one if not the least of Kevin's issues. He has a whole range of disorders, physical, psychiatric, sexual, and possibly something within an autism spectrum. As his history reveals, he is completely self-centric and egoistic and is in fact scamming this forum for attention. People like that are UNABLE to form relationships, no matter how much treatment they receive.

He has NO BUSINESS messing up with a woman's life (and as his history shows he has successfully screwed up at least one woman's life).

Kevin, please TAKE YOUR PROFILE off EM and show that you are at least a decent person.

[veritas]

Gator,

Please stop making assumptions about my understanding of clinical depression and my empathic abilities. I know quite a lot about the issue. These sweeping generalizations of "what RW are like" are just silly.

And frankly I suspect depression is only one if not the least of Kevin's issues. He has a whole range of disorders, physical, psychiatric, sexual, and possibly something within an autism spectrum. As his history reveals, he is completely self-centric and egoistic and is in fact scamming this forum for attention. People like that are UNABLE to form relationships, no matter how much treatment they receive.

He has NO BUSINESS messing up with a woman's life (and as his history shows he has successfully screwed up at least one woman's life).

Kevin, please TAKE YOUR PROFILE off EM and show that you are at least a decent person.

What can I say. pitbull?  Despite all your knowledge and experience, you still don't "get it" ...

Yes, I'll take my profile off EM -- and save it for the day when I'm doing (much) BETTER, which WILL happen ...

And I'm more than just a "decent person" -- I'm a really GREAT GUY!!! 

[veritas]

scamming this forum

Really!!!  What constitutes "scamming" in your mind?  Openness?   Kindness?  Helpfulness?  Gratitude?  HONESTY?